we are seeing traitors before our eyes and we dont even recognize it. our founding fathers would have hung these people in washington. for those of you who can read, look up the ten principles of communism and read it, we are seeing it before our very eyes and have for years. are we that stupid?
If this bill is so great then why won't congress use it? Read the House bill, they put a stipulation in that says all congress is 100% exempt from using this healthcare bill. If you don't believe me then write or call your senator or representative or better yet read the bills.
Sounds great doen't it? What he didn't say was that we will pay for it for five years before we see any benefits from it. That's how it doesn't add anything to the national debt.Didn't say taxes will be raised, it does-Didn't say premiums will raise, they will---Didn't say that you'll be fined/taxed if you choose or if you can't afford health insurance, it will---Didn't say a health panel determines care, it does. and that is called RATIONING.
I'm rooting for you guys and the health care public option that the Democrats are working to pass into law. I am looking forward to the terrorists trial coming up in NYC. I want Eric to arrest all of the lying thieving banker/insurer CEOs, Board of Directors, Executives, Officers, Lobbyists, Politicians that wrecked the American economy by defrauding the American people. I want to see how jobs will return to America. I want those that lied America into the Middle East wars in prison.
Are you suggestiong that Bill Clinton should be arrested too? Or, are you simply going with the popular (but wrong) belief that the Bush adminstration single handedly drove our economy into the ground?
Nixon/Kissinger began the process. Ford brought in Greenspan. Greenspan preached that 'Fraud was Good'. Reagen, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush/Cheney rammed the Greenspan idiocy up the collective American orifices. Clinton, Rubin, Levitt, Summers, accelerated the Greenspan insanity. Bush/Cheney, Paulson, Summers, Geithner super accelerated the Greenspan insanity. All the banker/insurer CEOs, Lobbyists, Politicians perpetrated this fraud and continue this fraud. Yes to imprisonment
wow I thought they were gonna say lets do it for the children, and by "American" he means anyone who can sneak in from any other country on the planet.
There are over 30 new personal and business taxes in this bill. Premiums might go down, but your taxes WILL GO UP. Good idea. Country in recession, millions without work and we raise taxes on business and congress will go in collecting 6 figure income and own health care. Typical liberal thinking.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA I'm in the union also...Chicago Carpenters and a lot of us union members are against this bill also. Your not along. Matter of fact most of us voted with the union and voted for Obama. Most of us wish we could take our vote back. Were not happy with Obama and his agenda. 2010/2012 will hopefully get rid of some of these far left nut jobs.
jwv651 i know what you mean. out locl as well as out international and the AFL-CIO pushed Obama(well they started with Hillary). it cause alot of racism at work when I refused to back Obama. i could see through his B/S. even after he was elected. i'll tell the younger kid s at work at what obama said in debates. and what he is wanting now. and was called a liar. Then bring a copy of the debates of like(DnDxqboVxMY) then was called a racist. they don't care that he lied.
now in union meetings they oush it for all the tax breaks as union members will get from the bill just for being union and how it's help in getting more companies to go union just for the tax exemption. That part is all about memebershit count of the union. it's the trade off unions gave to support the Dem's as well as that tax and spend bill. the unions cadillac plans want be taxed like the non-unions will be.
By law, the CBO must eventually score the private-sector mandates which will reveal the $1.5 TRILLION costs that Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid are trying to hide.
Under the ***FULL SCORE***, the CBO will present...
NEW federal spending,
NEW state spending, &
NEW cost of the private-sector mandates!
The bill's ***TOTAL COST*** will be the sum of those three figures,
A sum that will reveal the costs that the bills author's have been hiding!
SENATE HEALTH CARE PLAN Part 2 NOW gives $5,500 per person SUBSIDIES to 19M Americans! Allows Fed Funding of abortions! Starts TAXING for the program in 2010 that wont start until 2014/2015! STILL separates the $245 BILLION "DOC FIX" legislation! STILL includes a 20% National Sales Tax! NOW leaves 24 MILLION people with NO COVERAGE! NOW CUTS $491 BILLION from Medicare STARTING in 2010! STILL MANDATES that people BUY health care insurance or pay $750 in TAXES! STILL covers ILLEGALS!
go ahead and read dip enough, you'll find that a tax is going to be put against all those that have what Obama calls a cadillac healthcare coverage. now if you're union you should on a cadillac plan($8000 and up).
You do know that all unions will be tax exempt from that tax.
Your future and children's future would be in a financial whole keeping the status quo under the private sector .This is reform through competition, choice,and regulation . It's like the Glass Steagall Act of health care .
with this bill there is no competition, there is no choice. There is a whole lot of regulation. Regulating you to pay more taxs and get less than what you can with private insurance companies.
take the bill. Pull out just what has to do with real healthcare. it's onlt 300 pages. All the rest has nothing to do with healthcare. Just taxs and more taxs and even more taxs.
Along with mandate after mandate. there' no choice about this bill.
Your not going to be taxed dude unless you make over 250,000 a year .The CBO said it will save a 120 billion in the first ten years and over half a trillion in the second ten .Cont.
It is optional, that's what the opt out clause is for .Under the current private system there's only the illusion of choice .Under the private sector you have none .
the illusion is, you still have to have healthcare. No matere where you BUY it from. The government will be no less than $2400 a year. The same amount you can get it now. And in some states even cheaper. If the 49 million that can't afford $2400 a year now, still won't beable to next year.
if they can't afford $2400 a year now they won't later. So it's not help the poor at all. it's not helping the one living from pay check to pay check. They still won't beable to afford insurance.
Now if you save $1 but pay $2 in a tax. where is the savings.
This is a a tax/spending bill. And has hardly anything to do with healthcare.
The optional in the bill works this way. If you work for a company that pays your healthcare.And you move to another state.The brach of the comapy or even if you go from one company to another with a different provider. you are no longer allowed to buy from a private insurance comapny.You now HAVE TOO BY FORCE OF THE GOVERNMENT but the public option plan.But lets say the state you move to opt out. You now are screwed. The state does have public option, you're no longer allow back to a private.
damn the senate democrats have added even another 243 pages to the bill. More taxs, more sending on anything and everything that has nothing to do with healthcare.
And you dumb ass kids still thonk ypou are going to get free healthcare out of the deal.
but then again you are nothing but a bunch of dumb ass kids.
How come everyone in Congress is bad at Math, how does over 800 billion dollar bill not add a dime to the deficit. or did he mean it will only be a drop in the bucket compared to the financial whole Obama and his team have put our future children in.
According to the Associated Press, a $4,700 pay raise took effect this past January, which raised self-imposed congressional salaries to an unprecedented $174,000 per year. Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) backed an annual pay raise bill in 1989, and in a statement through his personal spokesman stated he believes that, "...if members of Congress dont want the raises, they can return that portion of their salary to the Treasury.
Seriously, where's the checks and balances on congressional raises?
I second that jwv651. The two party system is broken. The middle class, the free market system, and the Constitution are suffering for it. Socialism is not the answer, but that is where the donkey and the elephant are going, hand-in-hand.
nesianboy, I agree. And the "something" that is telling you things are going to get worse is common sense, plain and simple. The government expects us to live within our means, pay taxes, etc. Yet they don't live by the same principles, and they don't uphold their oath to the Constitution.
DrunkenPublicness...Yep I agree 100% Bush was horrible...I think Carter might of been worst. But I'm seeing Obama as probably the worst...we will see in 3 more years how this pans out.
It's not just Obama. It's the entire political establishment in Washington. Nearly all of them are in bed with special interest, lobbyists, big business, yet we keep on electing a bunch of ass-clowns into office based on the promise of change. Americans fall for it every time, but the change never comes.
Real conservative want single payer program for all people for our health care reform. Penalty is nonsense. Don't bluff us with economy or deficits, we all know they are all manipulations according to history. People are demanding to take part in this Health care reform. We prefer to work for our health instead of the vanish-able US dollars.
look, what any child can figure out is that we are broke! If Bush tried to double the budget, again, , he would be crucified. Obama is doing it and NOONE is saying anything exceppt FOX. Tell me who is FOR the people! you are either totally stupid or criminal. This is NOT about political Parties! This is about survival as a country. BECK has the figures, please read them!
Right - the same conservatives who piss down their leg if mention anything outside of the norm. No - Progressives started this nation. serfs like you are lap dogs to the rich. That's so sad you actually believe you are of our (Liberal) ilk when you are not at all.
You are right. I'm not a liberal. I believe in limited government. I am not a conservative. I support gay marriage. I oppose labeling myself as anything because that boxes me in and doesn't allow me room to grow or change if I am wrong.
Well, according to our beliefs today, conservatives founded the country. According to their beliefs, both liberals and conservatives founded the country.
But what is important is not what group founded the country, but what ideals. We were founded on the idea of freedom and democracy, but not tyranny of the majority or tyranny of government. We must remember these ideals and consider them going into the future.
I didn't Blame Bush for Obama's policies. Those two men are different people and I hope Obama is a history buff who learns not only from Bush's mistakes but every leader before Bush.
I do not hate Mr. Obama in any way. As a matter of fact I wish only the best for him. Unfortunately and IMHO he is off target on too many things to help the nation right now. We need the economy back before anything will work. Overtaxing us when we are broke isn't going to help anyone, including those without health care. I would love to see Obama stand in resistance to anything that doesn't help and be honest with the people. So far all it's been is sensationalizing everything for more power.
You see that guy in the back in the video that's one of our senators from IL. Senator Dick Durbin...this joker has been raising our taxes since taking office...he is as corrupt as you can be. Is this what we want. This guy is a bum.
I cannot help but feel the majority of the honest hard working Americans were either not involved in the last election altogether or trusted obama to bring change and are now pissed because he's only brought more problems on us along with massive lies and nothing transparent
Also, in the last election its a known fact acorn registered people to vote who had been dead for 10 years, people who were to young to vote and simply made up names and SS numbers for some. That WILL NOT happen again!
BlameRepublicans. Yes Now that I see first hand what Obama is doing to our country I absolutely do believe McCain would of been better, I voted for Obama based on my union beliefs. I have always been a democrat...But we are going way to far left IMO. Liberals are just as bad for this country as the far righter's. The Middle class has suffered enough! Big government is Bad for our kids.
See, this is ALL the democrats can offer to anyone ....insults!
When they have nothing of substance to offer they insult, no matter what their level, even their president does it.
Let's do a fact check here, obama claimed bushes overspending is what has caused the recession yet it was the democrats who created the lending systems. To date obama has now spent four times what he claimed caused the problem and has not kept even one promise. Transparent? Lies & gullible people got him elected!
Hey did you live on the same planet as that stupid cunt Barney Fank bitch slapped? You are aware your agenda just failed for the last 8 years aren't you? Liberals founded this country. Moral cowards like you ran back to mother England. You can't really expect me to look at your fucked up agenda as anything other than one big abortion - can you?
BlameRepublicans, you are out of your mind. "Clinton left bush a boom"? Are you kidding me? We were in the worse debt the nation has EVER seen when bush took office. If the democrats had done such a good job then why did bush get elected? To this day the lame democrats blame bush knowing they had full control of congress since 2006. The democrats are who designed and pushed the first tarp through yet they blame bush when it failed. Never lie to yourself!
What have they done that was anti-American? ...Besides the patriot act, which had bi-partisan support and I hear Obama will continue it. I really hope not.
More people are satisfied with their health insurance now than ever. Now these liberal dickheads are ruining 16% of the US economy. All because 20% of Americans don't have insurance so they are going to ruin it for everyone just be "fair".
Here we go with right wing lies. 60 million Americans without care. 20,000 Americans die every year b/c the greedy corporations fail to provide affordable care.
Yes asshole it has. Asshole - when the GOP slaughtered the economy it cost more and more their jobs. Are you so stupid you can't get that? Fucking idiot.
Really? Name your source? Also, if you think the Republicans single handedly "slaughtered the economy" you're more ignorant than I originally thought. Come up with some data or shut your lying pie-hole, douchebag.
ey dumbfuck, Bush spent us into Oblivion. Obama is spending us into Super Oblivioin. What has he done that would make you think otherwise? Cash for Clunkers?
Really? Economy started to suck ass when the DEMS took over in 2006. Now that they have the white house....10.2% unemployment. But hey, Obama said the recession is over. To prove it he extends unemployment benefits.
It took wise Liberal leadership 13 years to clean up your stooge's mess during the first GOP caused Great Depression. Aren't you being just a *little* cunty wanting Daddy Obama to wipe you clean in just a few months? It shows how out of touch you are. You know what? Its time you stop helping Al Qaeda and start supporting America.
Obama closed tax shelters over seas which has brought $15 billion of our stolen money back home. He's ending welfare for the rich. Cash for clunkers program bumped Ford's number 25% this time last year. I could go on but you nazi fucks are stuck in a loop. you won't take responsibility for Bush and you cry about Obama just b/c he's black.
That's some tough talk for somebody with such a little pecker. Do you deny the Fed is printing as much money as they possibly can? Do you deny Obama has spent MORE than any pres in history? You pull the race card and the namecalling, because you SUCK at debate. SOCIALIST.
What? I told your mother to keep our relationship out of the lime light. Look - douche bag. I'm a combat vet US Army - I've got 2 purple hearts for action in Iraq. Stop wasting my time with your cute little threats. OK?
Okay. Okay. First off, thanks very much for your service. I mean that. But calm down with all the nazi-racist stuff. I can disagree with this president's policies, just as I disagreed with Bush's policies.
Everybody is brave when they're behind a keyboard. You can blame republicans, they're part of the problem too. But to go to bat for Obama and start throwing race statements... well, you are a panzy.
I don't see yours out for everyone to see, and you are the only one frothing on this thread. Everyone else seems fairly pleasant, despite disagreements. You got roid rage or something? :D
Not that you have any reason to feel threatened by BlameRepublicans, but I would take my address off here if I were you. Lots of unintended consequences will come your way if you don't.
At the last tally there are about 1.72 billion internet users world wide, 1.5 billion speak English. Posting threats to someone on the net is like standing on Atlantic coast and flipping the bird to someone in France. While I do not pose a threat to anyone - I do agree however it's a good idea to be safe.
What's yours you fuckin' pussy. I'm going to beat your fuckin' ass to the fuckin ground. I could a shit if you served in the military service. You probably respect & defend that Texas Muslim that shot up that army base in Ft. hood. I
The GD wasn't caused by the GOP. It was the result of the FED's irresponsible lowering of interest rates in support of the British pound, which was at the time, the world's reserve currency. It's America's monetary/econimic policies that created everything you're bitching about. Neither party is innocent.
You're the first I'm going to gut when the revolution starts. Dumb ass white guilty communists/socialist who never worked a day in their lives and hate this country. If you lived in the Chicago area I'd drive to your house and kick your ass, you American hatin' mother fucker.
Hey BlameRepublicans I'm a union Democrat construction worker from Chicago that feels I wasted a vote on Obama. Does this make me a bad guy now. Far right and far left are all nut jobs.
1911arthur I help the poor everyday when I get up at 4.30am to go to work in Chicago. There were days when I was younger my wife and myself would go without food to feed our kids. I would do anything to make a buck to support my family. I have worked 2 jobs 16 hours a day at times. It seems some poor people don't want to do this for their
families...recycling....generation after generation. What can we do for these people who don't want to help themselves. There are programs to help them.
Can you believe it? The Democrats want to fix the economy. They want to make sure American babies get health care. AND they want the billionaires to help pay for it!
Class envy doesn't work in America, Karl Marx. Rich, white people made this country awesome.
This health care plan ELIMINATES competition and creates total dependence on US Gov't....and its all by design. You democrats are ruining this country and you love it. Make more people dependent upon Govt...extend unemployment benefits....free health care...fuckin' retards.
Supporting Obama makes us more like Europe....completely meaningless. I'm ready for a military overthrow of his administration
Stupid people like you support corporate welfare as part of a war against the working class. I hope you don't call yourself American - punks like are not American. Just greedy pigs polluting my America.
Obama supported corporate welfare too, idiot. He also accepted $1.7 million in campaign donations from the fat cats of the healthcare industry, who are supposedly the people he vowed to fight against.
Nice try. Bush is every bit as guilty as you claim, and likely the worse president in our country's history. Unfortunately, America is also cursed with people like you who would never cast your own party in a negative light. People like you are the reason why real change in America will likely never happen. You're worse than Bush.
Government already takes 40% of American's earnings in one form or another. You have a right to the money you make, just as a billionaire does. Nobody should be forced to support another entitlement program when there is no track record of success which suggests that the government can successfully implement and manage it. Christ, government can't even care for us veterans with much success.
Republicans are just like mosquitos. They iritate you but you can just swat them and they fly away. They don't have a brain of their own. Maybe a mosquito brain.
The Republicans just got to quit giving our money to Israel and sneding our BILLIONS to the moon. there is plenty of money without helping foreigners. Americans need health care, first.
1911arthur and the liberals are any better. None of us have a say in what our government does. We are just the worker bee's working hard raising families and hopefully retiring in the future with some goods years left and instilling family values into our kids. The liberals want us to pay for the people who don't want to work hard for the American dream. The republicans on the other hand take from us and give to the rich. Again we lose! Government wins.
I cant believe morons like you spend all day jacking-off in front of youtube with their stupid comments and believe anybody gives it a second thought. You are an idiot. An idiot who I have seen post many times before the same dung. I wonder if this is your full time job.
We won't remove them as that is against the Constitution! Boy, are you dumb! We are going to do to you, what you did to honest smokers in America! We are just going to tax your weapons say $50.00 a box for ammo and say a yearly gun tag of $2,000 for each rifle, yearly and say $10,000 tag for each pistol. That's all. We are just going to make you pay to own your bbgun.
I guess if I was already on government assistance and wasn't working, paying taxes or anything that contributes to the nation, I too would be down with free health care at the cost of others. It wouldn't matter to me because I would never have to pay for it anyway. Then I could sit back and get more fat as I attack everyone in America on the computer they purchased me. I could spend a great deal of my time supporting the democratic cause because others are out there working for me! FreeHC4ME!
We do need more money! So it's an easy fix! The President needs to just tax the rich alot more and the racists,rednecks,hillbillies and hicks.
He should make a new hick tax and tax all guns and ammo. Say, $50.00 tax per box of ammo and $2,000 tags for each rifle owned, yearly! A yearly tax on the rich just because they probably stole it from the poor.
Yes. Republicans must pay! they made us pay these last 8 years and now it's thier turn to pay. We actually, need to make them pay even more this time for bad behavior. they need to be punished hard for their sins.
The President needs to find other ways to tax and get all their money. I will help him!
ROFL ...very good! I like that, come take it! But you know they wouldn't because they're way to scared. Democrats are like those annoying little Chihuahua's that run up behind you barking and trying to nip at your heels, than when you turn around, they tuck their tails and run away. Then as soon as you turn your back, there they are again nipping at your heels. Plus, they use everyone they can like the blacks, if only the black knew they started the KKK and protested blacks in government.
Go to PBS and watch the most recent episode of "Frontline" and then come back here with a straight face and tell everyone how the Republicans acted alone in running our economy into the shitter.
Once health-care passes anything that you enjoy can be proclaimed through "studies" to be a burden on the system and that lets the democrats control your entire life.Think about it.
Health Care doesn't cost us much. We are taking the money from the rich republicans who took the money from us 8 years ago. see how it works. We are just taking it back for a while. It's their turn in the box.
These lawmakers are totally irresponsible. Where exactly is all the money supposed to come from? Oh, I know. Turn on the printing presses and hit the "inflation button."
The democrats, or should I say, the founders of the KKK have fought anyone who has tried to fix health care because they want ALL THE CREDIT! Otherwise, tell me why they have locked the republicans out of the meetings? This is working together? They've conducted secret meetings at midnight and on weekends without telling one single republican. It's sad to see that some people are simply gullible to the max, like ANYONE who is still supporting obama after doing nothing but spend more money!
Well, if there's no money to pay for anything then what? You're as gullible as they come or you're still on the mooch trail. Either way, for what you are spending to be on here complaining about not having just HC, you could have both full HC and dental! The entire country knows this so why would we want to help a blatant mooch? We're not! We are going to fix HC, but by rebuilding the entire things under the democrats. Americans will fix it not the dems. We want honesty and integrity not this!
What Americans are seeing is liberals who do not want to admit they were wrong about obama so they attack everyone instead. The good news is there are more democrats, liberals and independents converting to conservative values then ever in the history of the nation!
Not all people are weak and insecure, some understand it's more important to do what's best for their children than it is to continue destroying the nation simply because they can. It's awesome to see most are still true Americans!
Real Americans take care of their own, even the poor.
Republicans seem to not want to help poor Americans, but they vote 100%, Linsey Graham and Joe Lieberman to give Billions of OUR money to Israel and it's citizens so THEY can have the finest doctors and GOVERNMENT health care our money can buy? They like them, just not Americans, as they want them to die.
They also vote BILLIONS and send your money to the moon and outer space?
The republicans have purposed fixes for the HC system many times and have been met with resistance from the democrats. Plus, why would you want to replace the entire motor in your car simply because the plugs have gone bad? The ONLY reason for creating a whole new government ran HC is so the democrats can get their agenda's pushed through at the same time through trickery! All Americans want to help those w/out HC but not at the expense of our HC. Plus, the economy is more important, then HC.
we are seeing traitors before our eyes and we dont even recognize it. our founding fathers would have hung these people in washington. for those of you who can read, look up the ten principles of communism and read it, we are seeing it before our very eyes and have for years. are we that stupid?
davidcole100 2 years ago
Why doesn't the Obama administration want women self-examine for breast cancer?
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ToniMaples 2 years ago
If this bill is so great then why won't congress use it? Read the House bill, they put a stipulation in that says all congress is 100% exempt from using this healthcare bill. If you don't believe me then write or call your senator or representative or better yet read the bills.
2366951 2 years ago
Sounds great doen't it? What he didn't say was that we will pay for it for five years before we see any benefits from it. That's how it doesn't add anything to the national debt.Didn't say taxes will be raised, it does-Didn't say premiums will raise, they will---Didn't say that you'll be fined/taxed if you choose or if you can't afford health insurance, it will---Didn't say a health panel determines care, it does. and that is called RATIONING.
2366951 2 years ago
Haha suck on it losers!
badmuffy 2 years ago
BULLSHIT Reid is an idiot like all the radical leftists in Washington.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
BULL SHIT
cliffhanger57 2 years ago
LIARS! Scam and travesty. The American people should see what it is really about. They will not help this country, but will destroy it!
SparklestheClown 2 years ago
The only thing Harry Reid is trying to save is his own seat. The people of Nevada will have their day to unelect Harry Gried
jerdeb4evr 2 years ago
Harry,
I'm rooting for you guys and the health care public option that the Democrats are working to pass into law. I am looking forward to the terrorists trial coming up in NYC. I want Eric to arrest all of the lying thieving banker/insurer CEOs, Board of Directors, Executives, Officers, Lobbyists, Politicians that wrecked the American economy by defrauding the American people. I want to see how jobs will return to America. I want those that lied America into the Middle East wars in prison.
BertGriffin88 2 years ago
Are you suggestiong that Bill Clinton should be arrested too? Or, are you simply going with the popular (but wrong) belief that the Bush adminstration single handedly drove our economy into the ground?
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
DrunkenPublicness,
Nixon/Kissinger began the process. Ford brought in Greenspan. Greenspan preached that 'Fraud was Good'. Reagen, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush/Cheney rammed the Greenspan idiocy up the collective American orifices. Clinton, Rubin, Levitt, Summers, accelerated the Greenspan insanity. Bush/Cheney, Paulson, Summers, Geithner super accelerated the Greenspan insanity. All the banker/insurer CEOs, Lobbyists, Politicians perpetrated this fraud and continue this fraud. Yes to imprisonment
BertGriffin88 2 years ago
wow I thought they were gonna say lets do it for the children, and by "American" he means anyone who can sneak in from any other country on the planet.
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago 2
There are over 30 new personal and business taxes in this bill. Premiums might go down, but your taxes WILL GO UP. Good idea. Country in recession, millions without work and we raise taxes on business and congress will go in collecting 6 figure income and own health care. Typical liberal thinking.
lar4567 2 years ago
MrSTANDFORAMERICA I'm in the union also...Chicago Carpenters and a lot of us union members are against this bill also. Your not along. Matter of fact most of us voted with the union and voted for Obama. Most of us wish we could take our vote back. Were not happy with Obama and his agenda. 2010/2012 will hopefully get rid of some of these far left nut jobs.
jwv651 2 years ago 2
jwv651 i know what you mean. out locl as well as out international and the AFL-CIO pushed Obama(well they started with Hillary). it cause alot of racism at work when I refused to back Obama. i could see through his B/S. even after he was elected. i'll tell the younger kid s at work at what obama said in debates. and what he is wanting now. and was called a liar. Then bring a copy of the debates of like(DnDxqboVxMY) then was called a racist. they don't care that he lied.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
now in union meetings they oush it for all the tax breaks as union members will get from the bill just for being union and how it's help in getting more companies to go union just for the tax exemption. That part is all about memebershit count of the union. it's the trade off unions gave to support the Dem's as well as that tax and spend bill. the unions cadillac plans want be taxed like the non-unions will be.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
If this plan makes my premiums and taxes go down without lowering standards, then what are we waiting for? If not, then it will be my turn to vote.
neckbone942 2 years ago
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What COSTS are PELOSI & REID trying to hide???
By law, the CBO must eventually score the private-sector mandates which will reveal the $1.5 TRILLION costs that Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid are trying to hide.
Under the ***FULL SCORE***, the CBO will present...
NEW federal spending,
NEW state spending, &
NEW cost of the private-sector mandates!
The bill's ***TOTAL COST*** will be the sum of those three figures,
A sum that will reveal the costs that the bills author's have been hiding!
bigtex501 2 years ago
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SENATE HEALTH CARE PLAN
PART 1
Congressional Budget Office Projects Reid Bill to cost ***$2.5 TRILLION***!
Increases TAXES on Americans by $892 BILLION!
$2813.79 AVERAGE COST to Americans!
$509 BILLION in cuts to Medicaid by FORCING the STATES to "absorb 50% of the cost"!
TAXES ... Medical devices, prescription drugs, people with health related problems, insurance premiums TWICE, HSAs, FSAs, HRAs, and cosmetic surgery!
40% TAX on Cadillac Plans!
bigtex501 2 years ago
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bigtex501 2 years ago
go ahead and read dip enough, you'll find that a tax is going to be put against all those that have what Obama calls a cadillac healthcare coverage. now if you're union you should on a cadillac plan($8000 and up).
You do know that all unions will be tax exempt from that tax.
So I now know why many here are for the bill.
They are union workers.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
The taxes are on cadillac plans, that I doubt any union would have.
They also tax people who earn more than $500,000 and receive free medicare
Blairtim69 2 years ago
"cadillac plans", any insurnace plan that cost $8000 and up.
Me and the wife have a cadillac plan. because I'm in a union.
Even though i'm in a union I don't think it's right that union companies be tax exempt.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
Your future and children's future would be in a financial whole keeping the status quo under the private sector .This is reform through competition, choice,and regulation . It's like the Glass Steagall Act of health care .
thevirtueallliberal 2 years ago
with this bill there is no competition, there is no choice. There is a whole lot of regulation. Regulating you to pay more taxs and get less than what you can with private insurance companies.
take the bill. Pull out just what has to do with real healthcare. it's onlt 300 pages. All the rest has nothing to do with healthcare. Just taxs and more taxs and even more taxs.
Along with mandate after mandate. there' no choice about this bill.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago 2
Your not going to be taxed dude unless you make over 250,000 a year .The CBO said it will save a 120 billion in the first ten years and over half a trillion in the second ten .Cont.
thevirtueallliberal 2 years ago
TAX, FEE, call it what you want. If you live in the USA you'll have to pay into the system. There is nothing about this bill that's free.
Even for the ones making less than $250k.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
It is optional, that's what the opt out clause is for .Under the current private system there's only the illusion of choice .Under the private sector you have none .
thevirtueallliberal 2 years ago
the illusion is, you still have to have healthcare. No matere where you BUY it from. The government will be no less than $2400 a year. The same amount you can get it now. And in some states even cheaper. If the 49 million that can't afford $2400 a year now, still won't beable to next year.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago 2
Lol, people who are sick wish they could get a strong health care plan for $2400 a year .Cont.
thevirtueallliberal 2 years ago
That's like a monthly charge for just prescriptions alone . Cont.
thevirtueallliberal 2 years ago
oh so you'll know, with the public option, prescriptions are not covered. That's all out of your pocket.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
The public option does include perscriptions. It also closes the doughnut hole in the plan D, which is good news for medicare folks
I wish the plan allowed for better price negotiations, but the cap on price growth rates is better than nothing.
The option does include perscriptions
Blairtim69 2 years ago
The reform bill addresses all of this dude read it .Cont.
thevirtueallliberal 2 years ago
@thevirtueallliberal
You say you are a union worker. no wonder you are all for this socialized healthcare plan.
So to be union you have to believe in Communism.
You traded your union lable for a red star.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
Unions are made up of hard working Americans.
Shame on you for insulting the back bone of the American work force.
It was unions who stopped the exploitation of workers in the 1900's
Blairtim69 2 years ago
Blair
Your representation for this Blair Witch presidency is bearing no fruit. When will you realize that your lies are known by all who comment here?
TAMARLANE 2 years ago
typing tripe, again, MrSFA.
Sadly, at his best.
TerryEFV2 2 years ago
It's going to help allot of people,will be affordable, and save this country tons of money
thevirtueallliberal 2 years ago
if they can't afford $2400 a year now they won't later. So it's not help the poor at all. it's not helping the one living from pay check to pay check. They still won't beable to afford insurance.
Now if you save $1 but pay $2 in a tax. where is the savings.
This is a a tax/spending bill. And has hardly anything to do with healthcare.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
The optional in the bill works this way. If you work for a company that pays your healthcare.And you move to another state.The brach of the comapy or even if you go from one company to another with a different provider. you are no longer allowed to buy from a private insurance comapny.You now HAVE TOO BY FORCE OF THE GOVERNMENT but the public option plan.But lets say the state you move to opt out. You now are screwed. The state does have public option, you're no longer allow back to a private.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
damn the senate democrats have added even another 243 pages to the bill. More taxs, more sending on anything and everything that has nothing to do with healthcare.
And you dumb ass kids still thonk ypou are going to get free healthcare out of the deal.
but then again you are nothing but a bunch of dumb ass kids.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
How come everyone in Congress is bad at Math, how does over 800 billion dollar bill not add a dime to the deficit. or did he mean it will only be a drop in the bucket compared to the financial whole Obama and his team have put our future children in.
RandomBradCOM 2 years ago
According to the Associated Press, a $4,700 pay raise took effect this past January, which raised self-imposed congressional salaries to an unprecedented $174,000 per year. Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) backed an annual pay raise bill in 1989, and in a statement through his personal spokesman stated he believes that, "...if members of Congress dont want the raises, they can return that portion of their salary to the Treasury.
Seriously, where's the checks and balances on congressional raises?
gbhobson 2 years ago
I second that jwv651. The two party system is broken. The middle class, the free market system, and the Constitution are suffering for it. Socialism is not the answer, but that is where the donkey and the elephant are going, hand-in-hand.
sushinibbler 2 years ago
Who believes these assholes???
The devil is in the details guys. Something tells me things are going to get worse.
nesianboy 2 years ago
nesianboy, I agree. And the "something" that is telling you things are going to get worse is common sense, plain and simple. The government expects us to live within our means, pay taxes, etc. Yet they don't live by the same principles, and they don't uphold their oath to the Constitution.
sushinibbler 2 years ago 2
lawl, you believe in the devil.
LSGanon 2 years ago
DrunkenPublicness...Yep I agree 100% Bush was horrible...I think Carter might of been worst. But I'm seeing Obama as probably the worst...we will see in 3 more years how this pans out.
jwv651 2 years ago
Unfortunately, my last name is Carter, so I try to give Bush the nod as worse president ever, whenever the opoortunity presents itself.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Everybody needs to settle down. Obama has divided this country...all these comments proves it.
jwv651 2 years ago
It's not just Obama. It's the entire political establishment in Washington. Nearly all of them are in bed with special interest, lobbyists, big business, yet we keep on electing a bunch of ass-clowns into office based on the promise of change. Americans fall for it every time, but the change never comes.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Listen to Whore House Harry Reid > lying through his false teeth.
The6000Sabre 2 years ago
From The Associated Piss>>>>>
The6000Sabre 2 years ago
Real conservative want single payer program for all people for our health care reform. Penalty is nonsense. Don't bluff us with economy or deficits, we all know they are all manipulations according to history. People are demanding to take part in this Health care reform. We prefer to work for our health instead of the vanish-able US dollars.
beancube2008 2 years ago
YOU LIE!!!!!!!!!
acdc1954 2 years ago
look, what any child can figure out is that we are broke! If Bush tried to double the budget, again, , he would be crucified. Obama is doing it and NOONE is saying anything exceppt FOX. Tell me who is FOR the people! you are either totally stupid or criminal. This is NOT about political Parties! This is about survival as a country. BECK has the figures, please read them!
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
@tampabayproductions
Just a tip. Don't mention Glenn Beck as a source. It doesn't really help since most people think he is a clown. Use someone else.
freakawill2000 2 years ago
Anyone on the right hand side has high assclown count.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
here's a tip for 'ya....dont use CNN, ABC or MSNBC as source. They are the state controlled media.
JoeAverage86 2 years ago
@JoeAverage86
I will definitely agree with the MSNBC.
freakawill2000 2 years ago
BTW I don't believe in Abortion. do you think I should be forced to pay for it?
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
I don't believe in murdering Iraqis or executing poor people. Should I be forced to pay for that?
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
try the $8,000 a year blood money bill we have to pay for health insurance.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Right - the same conservatives who piss down their leg if mention anything outside of the norm. No - Progressives started this nation. serfs like you are lap dogs to the rich. That's so sad you actually believe you are of our (Liberal) ilk when you are not at all.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
@BlameRepublicans
You are right. I'm not a liberal. I believe in limited government. I am not a conservative. I support gay marriage. I oppose labeling myself as anything because that boxes me in and doesn't allow me room to grow or change if I am wrong.
freakawill2000 2 years ago
Just so long as you on in the right or on the fence you're part of the problem.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
@BlameRepublicans
I'm not sure what you meant. I think it is as long as I am a conservative or on the fence, I am part of the problem.
What problem?
freakawill2000 2 years ago
pathertic trillion dollar joke. If Bush tried this there would be riots in the streets.
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
@dr71956
Well, according to our beliefs today, conservatives founded the country. According to their beliefs, both liberals and conservatives founded the country.
But what is important is not what group founded the country, but what ideals. We were founded on the idea of freedom and democracy, but not tyranny of the majority or tyranny of government. We must remember these ideals and consider them going into the future.
freakawill2000 2 years ago
@freaawill3000. how about getting a job instead of trolling the internet and blaming Bush for Obama's crappy policies.
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
@tampabayproductions
I didn't Blame Bush for Obama's policies. Those two men are different people and I hope Obama is a history buff who learns not only from Bush's mistakes but every leader before Bush.
freakawill2000 2 years ago
Of course the right wing tries to steal credit. They're a bunch of frauds.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
I do not hate Mr. Obama in any way. As a matter of fact I wish only the best for him. Unfortunately and IMHO he is off target on too many things to help the nation right now. We need the economy back before anything will work. Overtaxing us when we are broke isn't going to help anyone, including those without health care. I would love to see Obama stand in resistance to anything that doesn't help and be honest with the people. So far all it's been is sensationalizing everything for more power.
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
You see that guy in the back in the video that's one of our senators from IL. Senator Dick Durbin...this joker has been raising our taxes since taking office...he is as corrupt as you can be. Is this what we want. This guy is a bum.
jwv651 2 years ago
I cannot help but feel the majority of the honest hard working Americans were either not involved in the last election altogether or trusted obama to bring change and are now pissed because he's only brought more problems on us along with massive lies and nothing transparent
Also, in the last election its a known fact acorn registered people to vote who had been dead for 10 years, people who were to young to vote and simply made up names and SS numbers for some. That WILL NOT happen again!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
BlameRepublicans. Yes Now that I see first hand what Obama is doing to our country I absolutely do believe McCain would of been better, I voted for Obama based on my union beliefs. I have always been a democrat...But we are going way to far left IMO. Liberals are just as bad for this country as the far righter's. The Middle class has suffered enough! Big government is Bad for our kids.
jwv651 2 years ago
See, this is ALL the democrats can offer to anyone ....insults!
When they have nothing of substance to offer they insult, no matter what their level, even their president does it.
Let's do a fact check here, obama claimed bushes overspending is what has caused the recession yet it was the democrats who created the lending systems. To date obama has now spent four times what he claimed caused the problem and has not kept even one promise. Transparent? Lies & gullible people got him elected!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
Hey did you live on the same planet as that stupid cunt Barney Fank bitch slapped? You are aware your agenda just failed for the last 8 years aren't you? Liberals founded this country. Moral cowards like you ran back to mother England. You can't really expect me to look at your fucked up agenda as anything other than one big abortion - can you?
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
BlameRepublicans, you are out of your mind. "Clinton left bush a boom"? Are you kidding me? We were in the worse debt the nation has EVER seen when bush took office. If the democrats had done such a good job then why did bush get elected? To this day the lame democrats blame bush knowing they had full control of congress since 2006. The democrats are who designed and pushed the first tarp through yet they blame bush when it failed. Never lie to yourself!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
What part of NO do these fools in
Washington not understand? We do not want it!!!!!
NO NO NO NO
acdc1954 2 years ago
"We"? A majority of us want the change. A few psycho shit for brain traitors in the US (right wingers mostly) don't matter.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
@BlameRepublicans
Traitors? How can one be a traitor for expressing his beliefs in a land of free speech?
freakawill2000 2 years ago
expressing is fine. Supporting the right wing that takes anti-American action is the problem.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
@BlameRepublicans
What have they done that was anti-American? ...Besides the patriot act, which had bi-partisan support and I hear Obama will continue it. I really hope not.
freakawill2000 2 years ago
sorry freak I meant BlameRepublicans idiot.
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
Reid the MORON !
Dont know Skit from shineola !
The Democrats never fix any thing !
Just watch this will make things worse !
ZZTWP :
zztwp 2 years ago
More people are satisfied with their health insurance now than ever. Now these liberal dickheads are ruining 16% of the US economy. All because 20% of Americans don't have insurance so they are going to ruin it for everyone just be "fair".
JoeAverage86 2 years ago 2
Here we go with right wing lies. 60 million Americans without care. 20,000 Americans die every year b/c the greedy corporations fail to provide affordable care.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
It's risen to 60 million now? I thought it was 47 million, 37 million without illegals, who we'll end up caring for anyway.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Yes asshole it has. Asshole - when the GOP slaughtered the economy it cost more and more their jobs. Are you so stupid you can't get that? Fucking idiot.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Really? Name your source? Also, if you think the Republicans single handedly "slaughtered the economy" you're more ignorant than I originally thought. Come up with some data or shut your lying pie-hole, douchebag.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
ey dumbfuck, Bush spent us into Oblivion. Obama is spending us into Super Oblivioin. What has he done that would make you think otherwise? Cash for Clunkers?
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
the GOP? Obama voted for the stimulus package 2 times?
tampabayproductions 2 years ago
You can't cry about Obama's efforts to fix the Bushruptcy. If you voted GOP this is all your fault.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Really? Economy started to suck ass when the DEMS took over in 2006. Now that they have the white house....10.2% unemployment. But hey, Obama said the recession is over. To prove it he extends unemployment benefits.
JoeAverage86 2 years ago 3
It took wise Liberal leadership 13 years to clean up your stooge's mess during the first GOP caused Great Depression. Aren't you being just a *little* cunty wanting Daddy Obama to wipe you clean in just a few months? It shows how out of touch you are. You know what? Its time you stop helping Al Qaeda and start supporting America.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Help? How? By spending money the country doesn't have and printing paper dollars until they are worth pesos? LOL.
sushinibbler 2 years ago
Obama closed tax shelters over seas which has brought $15 billion of our stolen money back home. He's ending welfare for the rich. Cash for clunkers program bumped Ford's number 25% this time last year. I could go on but you nazi fucks are stuck in a loop. you won't take responsibility for Bush and you cry about Obama just b/c he's black.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
That's some tough talk for somebody with such a little pecker. Do you deny the Fed is printing as much money as they possibly can? Do you deny Obama has spent MORE than any pres in history? You pull the race card and the namecalling, because you SUCK at debate. SOCIALIST.
sushinibbler 2 years ago
What? I told your mother to keep our relationship out of the lime light. Look - douche bag. I'm a combat vet US Army - I've got 2 purple hearts for action in Iraq. Stop wasting my time with your cute little threats. OK?
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Okay. Okay. First off, thanks very much for your service. I mean that. But calm down with all the nazi-racist stuff. I can disagree with this president's policies, just as I disagreed with Bush's policies.
sushinibbler 2 years ago
Do get all civil on me now. That's kills my buzz!
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Everybody is brave when they're behind a keyboard. You can blame republicans, they're part of the problem too. But to go to bat for Obama and start throwing race statements... well, you are a panzy.
sushinibbler 2 years ago
what's your name and address?
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
I don't see yours out for everyone to see, and you are the only one frothing on this thread. Everyone else seems fairly pleasant, despite disagreements. You got roid rage or something? :D
sushinibbler 2 years ago
525 W Monroe, CHicago, IL 60606
JoeAverage86 2 years ago
Not that you have any reason to feel threatened by BlameRepublicans, but I would take my address off here if I were you. Lots of unintended consequences will come your way if you don't.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
At the last tally there are about 1.72 billion internet users world wide, 1.5 billion speak English. Posting threats to someone on the net is like standing on Atlantic coast and flipping the bird to someone in France. While I do not pose a threat to anyone - I do agree however it's a good idea to be safe.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
What's yours you fuckin' pussy. I'm going to beat your fuckin' ass to the fuckin ground. I could a shit if you served in the military service. You probably respect & defend that Texas Muslim that shot up that army base in Ft. hood. I
JoeAverage86 2 years ago
The GD wasn't caused by the GOP. It was the result of the FED's irresponsible lowering of interest rates in support of the British pound, which was at the time, the world's reserve currency. It's America's monetary/econimic policies that created everything you're bitching about. Neither party is innocent.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Keith Olbermann is his source.
JoeAverage86 2 years ago
Sorry cunt - reality is my source. Unlike you nazis - numbers don't lie.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
You bring nothing to the debate. Just like Fox and MSNBC, you form an opinion and attempt to shove it down people's throats as fact.
Hurry! I think Olbermann and Maddow are on soon! Don't want to miss an opportunity to steal more material, do you?
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
You're the first I'm going to gut when the revolution starts. Dumb ass white guilty communists/socialist who never worked a day in their lives and hate this country. If you lived in the Chicago area I'd drive to your house and kick your ass, you American hatin' mother fucker.
JoeAverage86 2 years ago
Do you want some cheese with your whine? Cunt.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Hey BlameRepublicans I'm a union Democrat construction worker from Chicago that feels I wasted a vote on Obama. Does this make me a bad guy now. Far right and far left are all nut jobs.
jwv651 2 years ago 2
Let me ask you this - Do you think a vote for McCain would have been better?
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
jww651 said it best, nut job.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
1911arthur I help the poor everyday when I get up at 4.30am to go to work in Chicago. There were days when I was younger my wife and myself would go without food to feed our kids. I would do anything to make a buck to support my family. I have worked 2 jobs 16 hours a day at times. It seems some poor people don't want to do this for their
families...recycling....generation after generation. What can we do for these people who don't want to help themselves. There are programs to help them.
jwv651 2 years ago
But you undo any good and multiply the bad by ten when you vote GOP.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Can you believe it? The Democrats want to fix the economy. They want to make sure American babies get health care. AND they want the billionaires to help pay for it!
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Class envy doesn't work in America, Karl Marx. Rich, white people made this country awesome.
This health care plan ELIMINATES competition and creates total dependence on US Gov't....and its all by design. You democrats are ruining this country and you love it. Make more people dependent upon Govt...extend unemployment benefits....free health care...fuckin' retards.
Supporting Obama makes us more like Europe....completely meaningless. I'm ready for a military overthrow of his administration
JoeAverage86 2 years ago
Stupid people like you support corporate welfare as part of a war against the working class. I hope you don't call yourself American - punks like are not American. Just greedy pigs polluting my America.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Obama supported corporate welfare too, idiot. He also accepted $1.7 million in campaign donations from the fat cats of the healthcare industry, who are supposedly the people he vowed to fight against.
You're a real loser.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Obama is cleaning up your GOP abortion. Your race hating is sad. If only you would have had standards back when it would have helped - with bush.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Nice try. Bush is every bit as guilty as you claim, and likely the worse president in our country's history. Unfortunately, America is also cursed with people like you who would never cast your own party in a negative light. People like you are the reason why real change in America will likely never happen. You're worse than Bush.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Oh, and regarding the whole race thing. People like you who reach for the race card are the same people who keep racism alive.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
If you don't like being called a racist - take a look in the mirror and you will find the srouce.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Government already takes 40% of American's earnings in one form or another. You have a right to the money you make, just as a billionaire does. Nobody should be forced to support another entitlement program when there is no track record of success which suggests that the government can successfully implement and manage it. Christ, government can't even care for us veterans with much success.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
You are not forced to do anything - if you don't want to be a full member of society get out of the country.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Republicans are just like mosquitos. They iritate you but you can just swat them and they fly away. They don't have a brain of their own. Maybe a mosquito brain.
1911arthur 2 years ago
Big fat racist mosquitos who can't spell or use their own brains opting to listen to Fox News.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
I just beleieve in helping poor Americans first, instead of the Republican Plan to give billions to the peoples of Israel and Iraq.
People need to be covered with health care. Every American.
1911arthur 2 years ago
The Republicans just got to quit giving our money to Israel and sneding our BILLIONS to the moon. there is plenty of money without helping foreigners. Americans need health care, first.
Republicans just have all their priorities wrong.
1911arthur 2 years ago
1911arthur and the liberals are any better. None of us have a say in what our government does. We are just the worker bee's working hard raising families and hopefully retiring in the future with some goods years left and instilling family values into our kids. The liberals want us to pay for the people who don't want to work hard for the American dream. The republicans on the other hand take from us and give to the rich. Again we lose! Government wins.
jwv651 2 years ago
I just love messin with these Republican idiots.
They are soooooo Stupid!
Can't beleive they still exist! Most seem to be lost in the 50's.
1911arthur 2 years ago
I cant believe morons like you spend all day jacking-off in front of youtube with their stupid comments and believe anybody gives it a second thought. You are an idiot. An idiot who I have seen post many times before the same dung. I wonder if this is your full time job.
shshshsht 2 years ago
Hey 1911arthur...FYI Bush and Obama both suck...the middle class loses either way!
jwv651 2 years ago 2
jwv651 ...preach it! You're telling the truth!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
1911arthur you have way to much time on your hands. There is a life outside of you tube. LOL
jwv651 2 years ago
We won't remove them as that is against the Constitution! Boy, are you dumb! We are going to do to you, what you did to honest smokers in America! We are just going to tax your weapons say $50.00 a box for ammo and say a yearly gun tag of $2,000 for each rifle, yearly and say $10,000 tag for each pistol. That's all. We are just going to make you pay to own your bbgun.
1911arthur 2 years ago
SAY WHAT? "We won't remove them as that is against the Constitution! Boy, are you dumb!" Against the Constitution huh? Are you sure about that?
OK whatever you say....ROFL
You sure make your party look intelligent!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
1911arthur me see a big black market if that tax passes,hahahaha
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
I guess if I was already on government assistance and wasn't working, paying taxes or anything that contributes to the nation, I too would be down with free health care at the cost of others. It wouldn't matter to me because I would never have to pay for it anyway. Then I could sit back and get more fat as I attack everyone in America on the computer they purchased me. I could spend a great deal of my time supporting the democratic cause because others are out there working for me! FreeHC4ME!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
Arther do you work for acorn, the dem party or are you Obummer himself?
shshshsht 2 years ago
We will have our great President take your money the same way your great president took our money!
It's just your turn to pay the bill. We already has our turn under your leader Bush.
1911arthur 2 years ago
We do need more money! So it's an easy fix! The President needs to just tax the rich alot more and the racists,rednecks,hillbillies and hicks.
He should make a new hick tax and tax all guns and ammo. Say, $50.00 tax per box of ammo and $2,000 tags for each rifle owned, yearly! A yearly tax on the rich just because they probably stole it from the poor.
1911arthur 2 years ago
1911arthur Do you really believe that Americans are going to let anyone remove our guns? what a laugh.
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
Yes. Republicans must pay! they made us pay these last 8 years and now it's thier turn to pay. We actually, need to make them pay even more this time for bad behavior. they need to be punished hard for their sins.
The President needs to find other ways to tax and get all their money. I will help him!
1911arthur 2 years ago
1911arthur why aint you man enough to come take my money on your own?are you the little mouthy guy in the back thats all bark and no bite?
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
ROFL ...very good! I like that, come take it! But you know they wouldn't because they're way to scared. Democrats are like those annoying little Chihuahua's that run up behind you barking and trying to nip at your heels, than when you turn around, they tuck their tails and run away. Then as soon as you turn your back, there they are again nipping at your heels. Plus, they use everyone they can like the blacks, if only the black knew they started the KKK and protested blacks in government.
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
Go to PBS and watch the most recent episode of "Frontline" and then come back here with a straight face and tell everyone how the Republicans acted alone in running our economy into the shitter.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Once health-care passes anything that you enjoy can be proclaimed through "studies" to be a burden on the system and that lets the democrats control your entire life.Think about it.
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
Health Care doesn't cost us much. We are taking the money from the rich republicans who took the money from us 8 years ago. see how it works. We are just taking it back for a while. It's their turn in the box.
1911arthur 2 years ago
saves money? How stupid does this guy think we are?
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
These lawmakers are totally irresponsible. Where exactly is all the money supposed to come from? Oh, I know. Turn on the printing presses and hit the "inflation button."
czubspenx 2 years ago
The democrats, or should I say, the founders of the KKK have fought anyone who has tried to fix health care because they want ALL THE CREDIT! Otherwise, tell me why they have locked the republicans out of the meetings? This is working together? They've conducted secret meetings at midnight and on weekends without telling one single republican. It's sad to see that some people are simply gullible to the max, like ANYONE who is still supporting obama after doing nothing but spend more money!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
People are more important than money. that is why Republicans have a problem as money is more important than people to them.
1911arthur 2 years ago
Well, if there's no money to pay for anything then what? You're as gullible as they come or you're still on the mooch trail. Either way, for what you are spending to be on here complaining about not having just HC, you could have both full HC and dental! The entire country knows this so why would we want to help a blatant mooch? We're not! We are going to fix HC, but by rebuilding the entire things under the democrats. Americans will fix it not the dems. We want honesty and integrity not this!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
The whole motor has blown! that's why.
1911arthur 2 years ago
The Republican Party is doomed! As you can see, they have no COLOR left in their party?
They have been reduced to just 1% of the 2% rich,rednecks,hillbillies,racists, and hicks left?
There is no more party. The ones left who don't want health care seem to be real stupid as they don't even have any teeth left?
1911arthur 2 years ago
What Americans are seeing is liberals who do not want to admit they were wrong about obama so they attack everyone instead. The good news is there are more democrats, liberals and independents converting to conservative values then ever in the history of the nation!
Not all people are weak and insecure, some understand it's more important to do what's best for their children than it is to continue destroying the nation simply because they can. It's awesome to see most are still true Americans!
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago
No - you're thinking about Republicans. Clinton left a boom bush left an abortion sorry - fuck.
BlameRepublicans 2 years ago
Real Americans take care of their own, even the poor.
Republicans seem to not want to help poor Americans, but they vote 100%, Linsey Graham and Joe Lieberman to give Billions of OUR money to Israel and it's citizens so THEY can have the finest doctors and GOVERNMENT health care our money can buy? They like them, just not Americans, as they want them to die.
They also vote BILLIONS and send your money to the moon and outer space?
They sure can't be trusted owning guns!
1911arthur 2 years ago
The republicans have purposed fixes for the HC system many times and have been met with resistance from the democrats. Plus, why would you want to replace the entire motor in your car simply because the plugs have gone bad? The ONLY reason for creating a whole new government ran HC is so the democrats can get their agenda's pushed through at the same time through trickery! All Americans want to help those w/out HC but not at the expense of our HC. Plus, the economy is more important, then HC.
AngryStudioEngineer 2 years ago