I remember reading Uglies, but I didn't like the book very much. I'm expecting this one to be waaay different though. =) I love Steampunk and the thought of machines that need to be FED... Well, that's really intriguing.
Darwinist all the way! If I was a boffin in this book I think I would fabricate something with cat and viper life threads. That, I think would be an interesting beastie, anyone else?
I just started reading Leviathan today! Can't wait to buy all 3 books! Can anyone recommend any similar series? I love both Steampunk and War books, so this series is a god-send and I would LOVE to read more literature like it :D
The irony here is that in real life, the allies made the most important tech stride (Tanks) while the germans made one of the most important bio strides of the war (mustard gas)
@Ace4929 An intelligent thing to bring up, although I have to say that indicating irony isn't the best conversation starter. But yes, you're completely correct.
@Ace4929 No your wrong The Central Powers used chemical warfare not bio warfare! They mix chemicals (Cl-CH2CH2)2S they did not use germs or parasites. As well as WW1 was not really a technological war besides the tanks which Central powers had but the Allies made them before the Central Powers did! So really no Irony
@Savaris7 well, chemical warfare and biological warfare overlap in a number of areas, so not really all that different. and to clarify, no it was not a technological war (which wouldnt happen until ww2), but it was the first mechanized war. there were some vehicles, submarines used en masse, and airplanes, lighter than air dirigibles, and tanks i never said that central never had tanks, i said that the allies invented them, thus making the 'step forward' that i mentioned
i have a question for any leviathan lovers: im not sure but, is deryn a wee bit taller than alek? just wondering, because i would love to draw a fanart of them...thankS!!!
I just finished Goliath. A fantastic trilogy, and I may have never read it if I have not seen this trailer from a "War of the Worlds Goliath" link. Just to proove that video trailers for books is a fantastic marketing idea.
I was so sad when it ended but the ending was amazing but still sad cuz one of my favorite books came to an end. The art was amazing the plot was epic the sepence was just WOW, i cant even eplain it. But it was and always well be my favorite series
I love how in the description they say "Alek Ferdinand," when in Goliath there's a whole bit where he's arguing with Malone that royals have no last name and Ferdinand is his father's name. Irony or idiocy?
I love the Leviathan series, and I only read them last month. All I can say is its a lot better than a lot of the stuff I see on bookshelves, and Keith Thompson's art is awesome <3
And by that you mean making sure Scott Westerfeld is involved. So many stories get screwed up because the creators aren't involved with the film development.
one of the BEST book series out there! cant wait for Goliath in October, just got done reading Behemoth. love the illustrations! if they ever make a movie of this and, a good movie at that, i'll be a pretty happy girl xD
i deemand some one make a mech that has a chiansaw sword or a gun that shoot out chiansaw bullet then this book sear will be #number one favorit book trillagy
At First, I was a hardcore Darwinist. But when I read Behemoth, I automatically switched to Clanker. Partly because how unattached many Darwinists are to their beasties. Plus, I found it HIGHLY insulting how everyone made the Germans look like a bunch of basterds. What the Hell? It seems to me like Alek thinks that every German was responsible for his parents death. He needs to grow up; I hope Deryn slaps him one day.
read the books and these would make such a great movie or tv series...if companies actually wanted to spend money and stop blocking any decent idea in lue of just reality tv crap
LOL. Only in a Scott Westerfeld book trailer will you see the people in the comments debating about, terrorism, history, and the accurate portrayal of the powers.
Dude this was a completely random link from the video I was watching, but really. I'm extremely happy now. I need a book to read and I love Scott Westerfield.
@lceman11 what game set in a fucher were if the world has spit the u.s. becuse of polshon apart ironly no other cuntry have to to with a reigeing of world war 1 un less one mean the consep of to fachon with diffen techlogly head to head agenst eacher has been do be for that relly but beside that there relly nothing else this game has in coman with Leviathan
Wow, that's cool! Fantastic visuals. I couldn't look away. The voice over is perfect. I'm so glad that I didn't have to read anything during this trailer. I could just gawk at the images while listening to the narrator. I enjoyed it so much that by the end of the trailer, I was smiling without realizing it. Gotta read this book!
Son of Archiduke Franz Ferdnand was running from Rothschild gang after they murdered his father ?? But .. all .those images are genuine photographic pictures , I presume . Why not ? A real airplane was flown with a 150 hp steam engine in the thirties .
Hey guys check out a book trailer by Derrick Wiggins. This could be a new way to audio books, I'd like to call it a audio book slide show. Goto megadwiggins. It's a thriller and introduces the prologue and five chapters of the novel.
@magicstorm1 humm for some reason i think westerfield likes to take inspiration from japan, you ever read midnighters? try that and playing persona 3 afterward and your in for quite a shock...
I really liked these books at first, but after thinking about it. I really did't like that Scott Westerfield portrayed the Central Powers as "bad guys". There are no good guys or bad guys in war. Another thing I did not like was the fact that in the book it said that the Germans assassinated Arch Duke Ferdinand when in it was really Serbian terrorists. They were nothing more than terrorists and yet history and people like scott westerfield portray them as "good guys"
@garricus1 If you read the author's note, he explained that it was a popular rumor at the time, and the general population did not know it was the Serbs.
@Confetticake I would actually think that a lot of people would know who murdered the Duke. I mean really, hundreds of people witnessed it in Sarejevo. The entire country of Austria-Hungary went to war with Serbia over it. How could the general population not know about it?
@garricus1 the book takes place in an alternate universe where it was the Germans who killed the archduke and framed the serbian terrorists, so obviously its not going to folllow history. No one in this universe still argues that this is what really happened.
@garricus1 First of all, it IS clearly stated it's an alternate history where the German conspiracy is what Westerfeld decided to use. Even when writing history, authors have a creative license. Also, the good guy/bad guy thing. My AP history class had the general opinion that the Central Powers WERE the bad guys even before learning about the war. After learning? People still thought they were the bad ones because of how they started the war. War (and people) are biased. In fiction AND reality.
@LifesPrisoner370 I would really enjoy to hear one good reason explaining how the central powers were the "bad guys". You may have noticed that I put "Bad guys" in quotes because their are no good guys, or bad guys in war. Especially such a horrific war at that. I noticed that you stated that the central powers started the war, this is simply not the case. You see, the war started because a Serbian terrorist group murdered a certain archduke.
@garricus1 I'm no history expert. I'm just stating what I learned in a class from a college textbook and teacher. The stated reason in there was Germany did not have to back up Austria and set off the domino effect. It WAS everyone's fault. The world was still quite imperialistic at the time and all wanted power. War was inevitable. Besides, either side, it doesn't matter, people will label them good or bad. Humans are raised that way. If not, then there would be NO wars. I do see your viewpoint
@LifesPrisoner370 Thankyou, I do see and understand your argument as well. I have to say that I agree with you. I really enjoyed this debate we had -Garricus1
@garricus1 Same here. (: It's not often that you can actually find someone to debate with on youtube or the internet for that matter without it being stubborn irrational fighting.
@redarmy1313 No, I do not believe it is evil, I disagree with it though. The same goes for capitalism, I do not hate it I simply dislike it. Im more of a socialist, but I respect other's opinions.
@redarmy1313 Well, actually you are incorrect there. Many countries in the world assisted in defeating the Faschist government in Germany. If I am not mistaken, I believe that Soviet Russia pretty got it's ass handed to them.
lol i love the fron in the country france XD
93Gamerz 2 hours ago
when it says do i oil my war machiens or feed them, i oil them. im a clanker, a good clanker though. deal with it
8bladerunner 8 hours ago
I remember reading Uglies, but I didn't like the book very much. I'm expecting this one to be waaay different though. =) I love Steampunk and the thought of machines that need to be FED... Well, that's really intriguing.
mirroredhour 17 hours ago
Can't wait to read this book. And I would definitely have a war machine.
ApolloBrony 3 days ago
i sayu funniest part of livathan is when alek and deryn meet knife to the throte-gun pointing great relationship by todays standerds :D
explosionsdeathetc 3 days ago
i love leviathan.....good book!!!
XXXTOMZXXX 2 weeks ago
Movie!!!!!!!!
Manadox97 2 weeks ago
43 people are FULL OF CLART!
bloodsanity 2 weeks ago 8
this is an awesome book, i also really love the illustration. all together awesome book
jeff696469 2 weeks ago
Hell yea: I'm DEFINATLY a Darwinist!!
CrystalLeaf0998 2 weeks ago
Darwinist all the way! If I was a boffin in this book I think I would fabricate something with cat and viper life threads. That, I think would be an interesting beastie, anyone else?
PhotoPhobic13 3 weeks ago
I just started reading Leviathan today! Can't wait to buy all 3 books! Can anyone recommend any similar series? I love both Steampunk and War books, so this series is a god-send and I would LOVE to read more literature like it :D
xAnimeOtaku1 3 weeks ago
@xAnimeOtaku1 You should totally read the Hungry City Chronicles by Philip Reeve! Excellent series of steampunk/war/fantasy books! :D
MrCountryMusicLover 3 weeks ago
I am a Clanker! Great series I would recommend it to anyone!
Savaris7 4 weeks ago
Clanker FTW. machines don't have to worry about resting. Also they can fire actual weaponry, not airguns.
RyansGamerShack 4 weeks ago
This also needs to be a movie so I can be Deryn!!! :)
PeaceMusic6 1 month ago
I am a Darwinist! I love this series so much!!! It is my whole life!!! :D
PeaceMusic6 1 month ago
<3 this series
v8wr 1 month ago
CLANKERS, who doesn't love the land navy?
IBioPoxI 1 month ago
I may be a Christian but I so side
With the Darwinists.
Epic monsters FTW
Dappledvine 1 month ago 2
ALEK + DERYN 4 EVER!! :D
Big12189 1 month ago 3
Only the greatest books have trailers for them! :)
DeathsBountyHunters 1 month ago 2
great!
diego1998ish 1 month ago
DARWINIST FTW!!!
VideoGamerGirl97 1 month ago
@VideoGamerGirl97 Did you know that FTW can also mean For the Whales?
SteampunkGirlie 1 month ago
Due to finishing this trilogy a lot more words have been added to my vocabulary. rofl.
Arthreas 2 months ago
@Arthreas Bovril? :P
TheKapitan98 2 months ago
@Arthreas Me too. I "swear" at my brother Deryn-style all the time. He has absolutely no clue what it means.
Indigo0175 2 months ago
So I have been reading 'Leviathan' all wrong. Thanks to Supernatural, I now know how it's pronounced. Lol
gryffindorkk 2 months ago
I got thise and now I know what is it about so now I'm going to read it
504jec 2 months ago
The irony here is that in real life, the allies made the most important tech stride (Tanks) while the germans made one of the most important bio strides of the war (mustard gas)
Ace4929 2 months ago
@Ace4929 An intelligent thing to bring up, although I have to say that indicating irony isn't the best conversation starter. But yes, you're completely correct.
Indigo0175 2 months ago
@Ace4929 No your wrong The Central Powers used chemical warfare not bio warfare! They mix chemicals (Cl-CH2CH2)2S they did not use germs or parasites. As well as WW1 was not really a technological war besides the tanks which Central powers had but the Allies made them before the Central Powers did! So really no Irony
Savaris7 4 weeks ago
@Savaris7 well, chemical warfare and biological warfare overlap in a number of areas, so not really all that different. and to clarify, no it was not a technological war (which wouldnt happen until ww2), but it was the first mechanized war. there were some vehicles, submarines used en masse, and airplanes, lighter than air dirigibles, and tanks i never said that central never had tanks, i said that the allies invented them, thus making the 'step forward' that i mentioned
Ace4929 4 weeks ago
It sounds a bit weird, but I put my faith in Machines.
VivaNewVegas 3 months ago
Just finished the last book this morning. Damn good end to a fantastic trilogy.
AmazonKendall 3 months ago 2
i have a question for any leviathan lovers: im not sure but, is deryn a wee bit taller than alek? just wondering, because i would love to draw a fanart of them...thankS!!!
bloodsanity 3 months ago
@bloodsanity Just a wee bit good sir.
AmazonKendall 3 months ago
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oOMunkelOo 3 months ago
@bloodsanity Actually yes, she is. It says so in the third book, Goliath.
jkarinacc 2 months ago
just finished reading Leviathan for my school A.R. I am most definetly going to read the other 2 in the trilogy, A.R. or not.
InsanityRaynez 3 months ago
I just finished Goliath. A fantastic trilogy, and I may have never read it if I have not seen this trailer from a "War of the Worlds Goliath" link. Just to proove that video trailers for books is a fantastic marketing idea.
Giorgio879 3 months ago
I dislike the actual Charles Darwin, but I would totally be a Darwinist if this was real. XD
Frentara 3 months ago 2
@Frentara Why do you dislike Charles Darwin? You have something against logic and reason?
Anthonyk312 3 months ago
@Anthonyk312 I disagree with many of his beliefs, I don't have anything against him as a person.
Why would I have anything against logic and reason?
Frentara 3 months ago
=o
pizzacheese973 3 months ago
THIS WILL MAKE A KICK ASS ANIME...or animated film.
bloodsanity 3 months ago
@bloodsanity yea... anime... because its based of a manga... totally
Buemmo 3 months ago
Clankers....peroid.
evee608 3 months ago
I OIL AND FEED MAH WAR MACHINES! I'm a Clarwinist:P
veCrazz 3 months ago 4
Still need the 3rd book. THIS NEEDS A MOVIE OR ELSE I WILL NOT DIE HAPPILY.
AnimeGirl2120 3 months ago
I'm a Darwinist all the way
sjh919 3 months ago
Love the series. Good ending in Goliath too
sjh919 3 months ago
I'm still wairting for my bookstores to get the third book!
Aeleita 3 months ago
omg
that was epic
trolltally 3 months ago
Do you oil your warmachines... or do you feed them?
so epic!
hohesC24 3 months ago 3
haha love this book, so cool. But for a cool book trailer, watch the octobers book trailer. You won't be disappointed.
indianajones867 3 months ago
I was so sad when it ended but the ending was amazing but still sad cuz one of my favorite books came to an end. The art was amazing the plot was epic the sepence was just WOW, i cant even eplain it. But it was and always well be my favorite series
shadowdudetriple6 3 months ago
I FEED MY WAR BEASTIE!!
Pachirisuindahouse7 3 months ago 2
I OIL MY WAR MACHINE!!
TheSilverGarurumon 3 months ago
Damn it, I WANT MORE! It can't end with just the three books.
MizzYvon 3 months ago 3
I feed my steeds and use a Clanker gun! :)
53artsy 4 months ago
I hope the portraits of Alek and Deryn come out in the Manual of Aeronautics, as well as other pics of them!
I FEED MAH WAR MACHINES!!!
glass79breaker 4 months ago
I love these books!!! The third one is the best of the trilogy.
ceb111481 4 months ago
I CANT DECIDE!!!!
Roflmikmo 4 months ago
:'( Read the last book, to bad the series is over.
JEL1219L 4 months ago
I love how in the description they say "Alek Ferdinand," when in Goliath there's a whole bit where he's arguing with Malone that royals have no last name and Ferdinand is his father's name. Irony or idiocy?
defyinggravity999 4 months ago 25
@defyinggravity999 I'd say both.
Indigo0175 2 months ago
clankers are best
thisismine945 4 months ago 2
supernatural
cryhardxxx 4 months ago 28
@cryhardxxx if only
AmoSiesta 1 month ago
Read all three books and I am a complete Darwinist~ :3
Also, Deryn Sharp is the most inspiring girl ever. I love her very much <3
MastaHinata 4 months ago
its really good book, they need to make a movie from the book (but not ruin it like so many others)
masa11355 4 months ago
just got done with the last book had to watch the trailer again that started it all for me
Daremaycry 4 months ago
Whoo Hoo! I got my Goliath book! 8D
TheVeyZ 4 months ago
That looks interesting.
authorjg 4 months ago
That looks interesting.
authorjg 4 months ago
Clanker all the way
rmon247 4 months ago
Just finished the third book. Won't give away any spoilers, but it KICKED ASS.
MaskOfFlame 4 months ago 2
@MaskOfFlame Your comment made me not put my book down for 7 hours
I thank you :'D
MastaHinata 4 months ago
I'm a Clanker but that's only cause I've played Mechwarrior since I was 3 mechs are integrated into my brain
SovereignSnipers 4 months ago
Wow. looks great!
evilchef30 4 months ago
I just finished reading the second book again and I cant stop re-reading portions of the first.
xj496 4 months ago
im such a dummkoff for not realizing this awsome series
pema4life 4 months ago 2
Woah! I didn't know the book had trailers. The third book is almost on it's way!
EternallyLoveless 4 months ago
I love the Leviathan series, and I only read them last month. All I can say is its a lot better than a lot of the stuff I see on bookshelves, and Keith Thompson's art is awesome <3
FrostwolfDragon 4 months ago
I find that it's a really great read! I really think think they should make a miniatures game for this. Oh and I am a clanker all the way ;)
ShadowClan7 4 months ago
Also I think it would make a great movie if they could make it right and not screw it up
L3l0uch117 4 months ago
@L3l0uch117
And by that you mean making sure Scott Westerfeld is involved. So many stories get screwed up because the creators aren't involved with the film development.
TheVeyZ 4 months ago
I just started the book just a few days ago I find it rather hard putting it down
L3l0uch117 4 months ago
Can't wait till Sept 20th. So close....
TheVeyZ 4 months ago 2
i am really mad now that borders closed because now when i order the next book i have to wait. curse you amazon.com and american economy!
husoldier34 4 months ago
I thought this was a game would of bought it if it was now that I know its a book it seems lame.
would of been better if it was a game.
ziggyzagman 4 months ago
what style of animation/technique do you call this?
xRithyx 5 months ago
that was pretty
sexy.
pokelantis2 5 months ago
Very beautiful!
TheFrederis 5 months ago
Beastie you ninny!
TheShadowCorpse 5 months ago 3
one of the BEST book series out there! cant wait for Goliath in October, just got done reading Behemoth. love the illustrations! if they ever make a movie of this and, a good movie at that, i'll be a pretty happy girl xD
DanteLuver16 5 months ago 2
@DanteLuver16 the website said goliath comes out on september 20th
Wormhawk9 5 months ago
oh god this is like hammerfight
proskillz89 5 months ago
Barking awesome this. I'm on the second book right now
PopTartNeko 5 months ago
God's Wounds!
lylaz30 5 months ago
God's wounds, this looks amazing. ;)
LastMinuteCosplayPro 5 months ago
i deemand some one make a mech that has a chiansaw sword or a gun that shoot out chiansaw bullet then this book sear will be #number one favorit book trillagy
billbowfreeman117 5 months ago
I just want to poke my head inside the book and say "she's a freak'n girl you blind douche bags!"
Minigun101 5 months ago
0:45 never rape on a war zone.
Minigun101 5 months ago
@Minigun101 and they STILL didn't know the differences between a boy and a girl?!
Minigun101 5 months ago
People still didn't know the differences between a boy and a girl in 1942?!
Minigun101 5 months ago
@Minigun101 First, it is set in in 1914
Second she disguised herself as a boy
Bread736 5 months ago
@Bread736 Her disguise must be really good, or that she looks like a boy.
Minigun101 2 months ago
@Minigun101 the pictures help.
Arthreas 2 months ago
Think I just bought this book!!
tattoodfreeek 5 months ago
jaspert sharp ur full of clart XD
xATrueFanx 5 months ago
At First, I was a hardcore Darwinist. But when I read Behemoth, I automatically switched to Clanker. Partly because how unattached many Darwinists are to their beasties. Plus, I found it HIGHLY insulting how everyone made the Germans look like a bunch of basterds. What the Hell? It seems to me like Alek thinks that every German was responsible for his parents death. He needs to grow up; I hope Deryn slaps him one day.
gheldmann 5 months ago
Barking Spiders!
dabidosan 5 months ago 61
This has been flagged as spam show
thumbs up if you have to read this for school
or something along those lines
MCikedog 6 months ago
once the clankers invent nukes the darwinists lose automatically.
gadunka888 6 months ago
@gadunka888 They come up with Armored Plated Samurai with A 9 Barreled Mini Gun on One Hand and Dual-Katanas On the other
IXIinserthereIXI 5 months ago
I want to see what machines japan comes up with...
gadunka888 6 months ago
@gadunka888 gundam or poket monster is most likey what I think they will make
billbowfreeman117 5 months ago
squalat?
waggabiggadoo 6 months ago
Here... It would seem, we feed our war machines oil to go fight for more oil!
McCbobbish 6 months ago 40
Very impressive book trailer. Check out mine and give me some feedback!
RevelationToo 6 months ago
DARCLANKWERINISTS!!!
Thekwertyeweyoppe 6 months ago
one thing i dont understand..wouldnt italy be a clanker nation as opposed to a aparenty darwinist?...
darthkarr 6 months ago
@darthkar that what i was thinking there were aillid with the german but they did swich side half way thew the war
billbowfreeman117 5 months ago
@darthkarr the book is in world war 1 italy became an axis power in world war 2
husoldier34 4 months ago
read the books and these would make such a great movie or tv series...if companies actually wanted to spend money and stop blocking any decent idea in lue of just reality tv crap
darthkarr 6 months ago
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@darthkarr
Leviathan book 1,Behemoth book 2,Goliath book 3,ziz book 0 a prequel
3 seasons, 68 episodes.
sirtophatandmoncle 6 months ago
CLANKERS! CLANKERS! CLANKERS!
What? Darwinists suck....
braintick123 6 months ago
I really want to read this series, but I need to finish my book first!
SWesleySteam 6 months ago
Fantastic drawinga by Keith Thompson!!
Chanluce 6 months ago
Leviathan book 1,Behemoth book 2,Goliath book 3,ziz book 0 a prequel
3 seasons, episodes 68.
sirtophatandmoncle 6 months ago
@sirtophatandmoncle episodes or do you mean chapter in the book in total
billbowfreeman117 5 months ago
@billbowfreeman117
episodes...i think
sirtophatandmoncle 5 months ago
The books are great. The art is great. When can we see the movies?
GreyGrimGrave1 6 months ago
LOL. Only in a Scott Westerfeld book trailer will you see the people in the comments debating about, terrorism, history, and the accurate portrayal of the powers.
nerdyglady 6 months ago
Dude this was a completely random link from the video I was watching, but really. I'm extremely happy now. I need a book to read and I love Scott Westerfield.
wazeg0 6 months ago
anyone ever heard of the video game Fracture? yea.. i wonder where he got his ideas from
lceman11 6 months ago
@lceman11 Yeah but fracture was shit.
Hecate1990 6 months ago
@lceman11 what game set in a fucher were if the world has spit the u.s. becuse of polshon apart ironly no other cuntry have to to with a reigeing of world war 1 un less one mean the consep of to fachon with diffen techlogly head to head agenst eacher has been do be for that relly but beside that there relly nothing else this game has in coman with Leviathan
billbowfreeman117 5 months ago
what a fantastic trailer for an even more fantastic series~! I need to reread them before the next one comes out!!
RenoftheRain 6 months ago
When, (the decades since the end of the cold war excepted) has europe not been at the brink of war?
McCbobbish 6 months ago
My war machines are self-sufficient. They dont require your paltry oiling or feeding.
If you know what I mean ^^
there was nothing dirty in that comment, you sick bstrds.
halopalo 7 months ago
long live germany.
762cat 7 months ago
Wow, that's cool! Fantastic visuals. I couldn't look away. The voice over is perfect. I'm so glad that I didn't have to read anything during this trailer. I could just gawk at the images while listening to the narrator. I enjoyed it so much that by the end of the trailer, I was smiling without realizing it. Gotta read this book!
TheBookVlogger 7 months ago
Son of Archiduke Franz Ferdnand was running from Rothschild gang after they murdered his father ?? But .. all .those images are genuine photographic pictures , I presume . Why not ? A real airplane was flown with a 150 hp steam engine in the thirties .
BOOOZB 7 months ago
Aww I wanna order behemoth, I finished the awesome first book... STEAMPUNK FICTION RULEZ!
HaruhiMariotaku 7 months ago
i read this. its awesome
BoojiComixInc 7 months ago
This series is AWESOME so far, I Highly recommend it!
TheDragonCael 8 months ago
Great!!´
Deudadeluz 8 months ago
This looks quite interesting. I think I'd prefer to be a Clanker...
Bauch373 8 months ago
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Hey guys check out a book trailer by Derrick Wiggins. This could be a new way to audio books, I'd like to call it a audio book slide show. Goto megadwiggins. It's a thriller and introduces the prologue and five chapters of the novel.
megaDwiggins 8 months ago
oh i did a little research and there is an anime called "Last Exile". It seems like it have the same atmosphere/story as this book.
magicstorm1 8 months ago
@magicstorm1 humm for some reason i think westerfield likes to take inspiration from japan, you ever read midnighters? try that and playing persona 3 afterward and your in for quite a shock...
jeanguylouisbourg 8 months ago
they ought to just make a movie of this in CGI. It would be brilliant cuz the story is rich and pure action
magicstorm1 8 months ago
Darwinist's look cool but I'm a pure clanker, steam punk ftw
joeisdabest1997 8 months ago
this would make a great anime or movie
LegendarySilverWolf 8 months ago
i know this sounds dumb but is this a movie or a book?
LegendarySilverWolf 8 months ago
@LegendarySilverWolf a book. and yes, that was dumb. you can see its a book at the end.
Anthonyk312 8 months ago
@Anthonyk312
i demand a movie dammit
LegendarySilverWolf 8 months ago
I OIL THEM!
lemimique 8 months ago
Both
9Richi9mechs9 8 months ago
I really liked these books at first, but after thinking about it. I really did't like that Scott Westerfield portrayed the Central Powers as "bad guys". There are no good guys or bad guys in war. Another thing I did not like was the fact that in the book it said that the Germans assassinated Arch Duke Ferdinand when in it was really Serbian terrorists. They were nothing more than terrorists and yet history and people like scott westerfield portray them as "good guys"
garricus1 8 months ago 28
@garricus1 If you read the author's note, he explained that it was a popular rumor at the time, and the general population did not know it was the Serbs.
Confetticake 8 months ago
@Confetticake I would actually think that a lot of people would know who murdered the Duke. I mean really, hundreds of people witnessed it in Sarejevo. The entire country of Austria-Hungary went to war with Serbia over it. How could the general population not know about it?
garricus1 8 months ago
@garricus1 the book takes place in an alternate universe where it was the Germans who killed the archduke and framed the serbian terrorists, so obviously its not going to folllow history. No one in this universe still argues that this is what really happened.
Anthonyk312 8 months ago
@garricus1 First of all, it IS clearly stated it's an alternate history where the German conspiracy is what Westerfeld decided to use. Even when writing history, authors have a creative license. Also, the good guy/bad guy thing. My AP history class had the general opinion that the Central Powers WERE the bad guys even before learning about the war. After learning? People still thought they were the bad ones because of how they started the war. War (and people) are biased. In fiction AND reality.
LifesPrisoner370 7 months ago
@LifesPrisoner370 I would really enjoy to hear one good reason explaining how the central powers were the "bad guys". You may have noticed that I put "Bad guys" in quotes because their are no good guys, or bad guys in war. Especially such a horrific war at that. I noticed that you stated that the central powers started the war, this is simply not the case. You see, the war started because a Serbian terrorist group murdered a certain archduke.
garricus1 7 months ago
@garricus1 I'm no history expert. I'm just stating what I learned in a class from a college textbook and teacher. The stated reason in there was Germany did not have to back up Austria and set off the domino effect. It WAS everyone's fault. The world was still quite imperialistic at the time and all wanted power. War was inevitable. Besides, either side, it doesn't matter, people will label them good or bad. Humans are raised that way. If not, then there would be NO wars. I do see your viewpoint
LifesPrisoner370 7 months ago
@LifesPrisoner370 Thankyou, I do see and understand your argument as well. I have to say that I agree with you. I really enjoyed this debate we had -Garricus1
garricus1 7 months ago
@garricus1 Same here. (: It's not often that you can actually find someone to debate with on youtube or the internet for that matter without it being stubborn irrational fighting.
LifesPrisoner370 7 months ago
@LifesPrisoner370 You wouldnt believe some of the morons that I have had to debate with!
garricus1 7 months ago
@garricus1 i wonder do you think communism is evil?
redarmy1313 7 months ago
@redarmy1313 No, I do not believe it is evil, I disagree with it though. The same goes for capitalism, I do not hate it I simply dislike it. Im more of a socialist, but I respect other's opinions.
garricus1 7 months ago
@garricus1 at least your not like those capitailists who blame on us after we stopped a fascist reich
redarmy1313 7 months ago
@redarmy1313 Well, actually you are incorrect there. Many countries in the world assisted in defeating the Faschist government in Germany. If I am not mistaken, I believe that Soviet Russia pretty got it's ass handed to them.
garricus1 7 months ago
@garricus1 yes but we got revenge by capturing berlin.
redarmy1313 7 months ago
@redarmy1313 Who is we? Im pretty sure you were not alive at the time the siege of Berlin took place.
garricus1 7 months ago
@garricus1 i'm communist and i'm from russia sorry if my english is bad
redarmy1313 7 months ago
@redarmy1313 Never mind, obviously you are a 12 year old who keeps doging my questions and responses.
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