May 30th 09 in Vancouver, BC Chemtrails debunked? Geo engineering begins?

[blehblehbleh86]

Congratulations. You saw some water vapour, and got scared because of a dangerous mix of ignorance and paranoia. It's startling how much weight you give to evidence and opinion, and so little weight to logic and reason. Please go ask a schoolkid who's been taking chemistry for a few months - they'll be able to explain just how screwed up your view of the world is.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

@blehblehbleh86

Scared? LOL! you fkn know nothing and your comment is that of a frightened child. The larger the trail or cloud the more particulate dust required smart guy. Basic science but don't wet your pants over it.

[blehblehbleh86]

@STEVEDIGIBOYtv No. Not even close. Your ignorance is staggering.

[Codenamelumiere]

Water vapor does not shoot out of the bottom of the plane in giant smoke clouds. Global warming is bologna. Celestial bodies cyclically heat and cool themselves. Chemicals are chemicals, so it doesn't matter really what the purpose is. the point is they are not helping anything .... just dumping chemicals all over the place. You are correct that these things make it cold. Thx for posting.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

@Codenamelumiere

Hey I assume they are using an unmentioned particulate to catalyze the moisture and whatever that is we need to know. Also what the rush is, 8 days only distant trails and chemclouds.

[blehblehbleh86]

@Codenamelumiere No, but the differences in air pressure around a plane can cause condensation to form. Oh, and water is a chemical, so I guess clouds are some dangerous thing now.

[purplekush604]

ignorance is bliss except when you have to argue with hard evidence...

why dont people open their eyes, instead of staring at facts and debating hypotheticals you can look at the sky for yourself im from vancouver, and this video speaks for itself... it doesnt take any government run education to notice whats happening in the sky.

[AmericaTops]

What in the world is all the fuss over simple normal plane contrails? Are you people NUTS? It's HOT engine exhaust meeting cold upper-atmosphere air! Duh. That's ALL! Basic high school science facts! If you live anywhere near military bases, or in a major city, there will be MORE ... Duh! Get a life!

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

Back to grade school for you, there is gallons of unburnt fuel being wasted over the population when the commercial flight corridor is 15 miles away. Ice crystals do not propagate unlike contrail conspiracy nuts who think they do. America tops? the economy looks pretty bottoms for ya now maybe because of public education on basic science?

[FightForYourRights01]

That's it...spread more bullshit.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

Don't be so afraid of learning new things. Sad your primitive, failing, childish comment, the only thing spreading is the crap coming out of these jets and your kind of ignorance.

[FightForYourRights01]

Please, tell me what the "crap" is that is coming out of the jets, and tell me what your proof is. That is all I ask. Not a single chemtard seems to be able to answer that. You are the ignorant one.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

You must think liquid fuel jet engines are 100% efficient? Then you are mentally challenged as you have so well displayed. Hydrocarbon fuel waste is real and you have breathed far too much of it I guess. Your ridicule only adds credibilty to the hundreds of parents in my region alone organizing and boycotting airline excess. Go back to you hollywood movies and tinker toys please.

[FightForYourRights01]

You keep making up things I never said! I have admitted time and time again that combustion of ANY sort causes pollution. But that isn't what you chemtards are claiming is it?! You assholes claims that something is INTENTIONALLY being sprayed in ADDITION to the normal pollution, are you not!? Now tell me what that something is and show me the evidence. Stop making STUPID claims that you can't back up with evidence.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

I'm following the science your acting afraid and defensive, flights diverting and creating clouds/fog with chemicals including the gallons of unburnt fuel are a fact. You know nothing if you think exhaust is not chemical. If there is sodium chloride (salts) or calcium chloride like used in Thailand that is weather modifcation on purpose or not. The Canado-American treaties of '75 allow them to spray what ever they want. The public is just getting wise to it and you lose again.

[FightForYourRights01]

No, you are NOT"following science" you are ignoring it. I never SAID "exhaust is not a chemical" stop pretending that I said thing I never did! Why are you such an asshole! I have claimed at least a thousand times that these trails are made from "combustion gases and water vapor' Do you know what "combustion gases" mean?! Apparently not! Again, please tell me what is in these trails and what is your proof. Stop avoiding the direct question with your nonsense.

[stars15k]

No, but it's 1 part exhaust to 10,000 parts atmospheric H2O contribution. So very little is anything more than water. At this ration, at that altitude which contributes a wind drift, what "chemical" do you expect is able to do anything to you down below? A single cloud has 550 TONS of water, the equivalent of 7 supertankers or 50 regular tankers combined payloads. So they can't be spraying anything, without a heck of a lot more planes and equipment, much less all over, everyday.

[stars15k]

And that is just the volume of a single cloud. Combine all the trails you see in the sky at any one time, add in all the trails shown here on YouTube....there would be no personnel or fuel left to maintain normal transportation.

"Chemtrails" have never been proven by content, and can't be done because of the logistics. So, what's left?

Your imagination and lack of common atmospheric science literacy. Research the science, there is DECADES of study done. "Chem" is internet idiocy.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

Seen a lot of cloud seeding liberate the h2o in atmosphere and this crap is not ice crystals at 6000 feet as I have taped. Dispute the treaties exist or Thailand does not create clouds and rain. YOU LOSE GOODBYE.

[stars15k]

Cloud seeding is NOT done at high altitude. You need an education apparently. Cloud seeding is done on a small scale, very localized, low altitude in order to maintain the targeted area and the effects wanted. It is not done by planes at contrail altitude, never has been and wouldn't work because of the dissipation and dispersal factors of winds. How do you get the altitude from what you taped? Guess? Even 6000ft is way below contrail space. Do you know what you are talking about?

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

Your right low altitude with all those hydrocarbons and unburnt fuel additives. Go soak a hand in gasoline and see how healthy that is. LOL! Some know how to calibrate instruments to estimate altitude but you need science and an IQ which you have dameged or something.

[stars15k]

The fuel additive level in jet fuel is so low as to be found only in tests looking for it. Hydrocarbons are found in in combustion anywhere on the planet from pretty much any fuel. No one is dumping gasoline over anybody.

Your attempts are just getting funnier and more sad. And you are not reading or understanding anything presented.

All we want is some form of proof that cannot be easily explained by science. Is that so hard? You haven't supplied any.

[stars15k]

Wrong. We have decades of published, peer-reviewed, multi-disciplined work to back us up. What have "chemtrailers" have? Absolutely nothing but speculation, supposition, suggestion, and ignorance about the atmosphere and aviation. If you have something to prove that "chemtrails" exist, supply the source so we can see it. Or show something that the atmosphere cannot do all by itself. I haven't seen anything in any video or "chemtrail" site that even approaches proof to an informed mind.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

You contrail conspiracy folks are like flat earth believers see what your magic 8 ball says about that! LOL! your like a broken record and look foolish blabbing negatives instead of counter proof, massive fail well done!

[FightForYourRights01]

That's funny, you scientific illiterates comparing us to "flat earthers" when what you believe is even MORE foolish than believing the world is flat. You have nothing but paranoid ignorance in your corner but you act so superior. It's hilarious how stupid you cave men are.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

FAIL blah blah blah go get another id stars/fightforignorance01

[FightForYourRights01]

LOL! I love that old paranoid standby...accusing others of having multiple accounts. Thank for AGAIN avoiding the direct question. I have ONE account. I'll bet you have at least 5. Am I wrong? Don't lie!

[stars15k]

The same should be said of you. Completely ignoring "chemtrail" sites, research "clouds", "weather", "aviation" and "contrails". What you will find is that the science does not change, the scientific method is done well, and the people can actually provide easy answers for anything seen in the sky over your head or on YouTube.

Research "chemtrails" and find nothing really matches site to site. Carnicom says something different than Will Thomas who says something different than Alex Jones.

[stars15k]

So whose agenda do you follow? What chemical is being used? To what end? How? Where are the planes and personnel that would be required? It just goes on and on, one story after another with no end in sight.

When I research a question, I expect answers by well-qualified people. I expect their methods of testing to withstand criticism. I expect their findings to be consistent.

Obviously you do not. Your loss.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

Video is evidence in a court of law, you spend to much time listening to fearmongers with personal agendas and thoughts on this subject. It's about money, the weather modification agreement of 1975 will be repealed eventually or explain these unexplained to date flights.

[stars15k]

hahahahah.....you spend too much time watching TV. Yes, videos can be used in a court of law. Would they be used to claim altitude of a jet or chemical content of the visible plume? No, not without expert analysis.

There is no agenda in science besides learning as much as you can about the world around you.

We do not fear anything. We know that there are no chemicals besides exhaust in a contrail and clouds can look like everything ever shown on YT as anything BUT a cloud. And you?

[stars15k]

You fear some unknown chemical is being delivered to your atmosphere by some unknown entity for some unknown reason, with an unknown outcome. You fear clouds that don't look white and puffy.  You fear planes flying over your head, but don't think about suspension of aerosols and wind drift. You fear some people all over the world are in a massive attack against you, taking away the very air you breathe. All without any proof. You live in fear.

I do not.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

Exhaust is chemicals, you two are the pathetic fleeting minority. It's not paraniod to be amazed at what is being done and want more info, your attacks help the case thanks.

[FightForYourRights01]

In this case, video is NOT admissible to "prove" your case! You need to prove what is IN the trails, showing the trails to the court and proclaiming them as "evidence" of a spray program would get you laughed out of the courtroom! Go ahead, live your life as a paranoid fool. It's hilarious. Please watch this series:

watch?v=uJBLQVbU7As

[methodmanson13]

Its not about global warming,reflecting sun ,thats BS..its about killling us & HAARP

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

Way easier ways than being so public though, distraction haarp (focussed not worldwide at once like the trail ops), morgellons = Y2K yall! changing weather w/chemicals is far more hazardous imo to us all.

[99minerkc]

Ok, you maybe right however what is dropped out of the plane will eventually fall downward! I wonder what negative health effects the chem trails have on some if not all humans that breath this in! My understanding is that the trails contain some very small metalic particles in them which CANNOT be good for health!

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

I agree but we should know the reason first which I can only guess at with some factual basis. We need a stable temperature grade to live no matter the cost perhaps? glad you commented thanks for viewing.