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  • Someday, slowly Turkish Muslims and non-Muslims will recognize that the deportation of Armenians was the intentional ethnic cleansing of an ethnic, Christian minority to realize a future, almost pure Turkish nation. The deportation was unjust and inhumane, and a good example that life can be very unfair.

  • CHRISTOPHER JON BJERKNES '' THE JEWISH GENOCIDE OF ARMENIAN CHRISTIANS''

  • There is an astonishment on the part of the Turks that no one is talking about what Armenians did to deserve to be deported away from their homes. They were deported because they were, directly or indirectly, helping the invading enemy. Turks were fighting a war of survival. Stalin deported many many turkic minorities some of which now on the verge of extinction. The Jews didn't attack the Germans. End of.

  • And what about the millions of Turks massacred by Armenians. Do you have any clips of those? No I don't think so, because the Imperialist bastards who egged on the Armenians were not interested dying Turks as they were subhuman Muslims! Go to Hell with your deeply racist and biased views of the world. The Jews didn't attacked Germans you muppet! Read the history and consult opposing views as well

  • "We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for theTurks, and then proceeded in the work of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts into heaps of stones and dust, and when the villages became untenable and the inhabitants fled from them into the fields, bullets and bayonets completed the work." O. Appressian; Memoirs of an Armenian officer,

    watch?v=3P1RZ92Q-9g&feature=re­lated

  • You are clever and sophisticated. You plot to kill your neighbour. Your neighbour is more simple and generally less educated. Your neighbour survives the attempt badly wounded. They take revenge by killing you. Your surviving relatives now escaped to other lands utilise their sophistication and connections all over the world who sympathise with you due to religious reasons support you to prove a false theory.  This is how Armenian Genocide must be seen

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  • What is clear is that there were massive killings of innocent civilians on both sides. The Armenian gangs were set up specifically for this purpose to intimidate and kill Turkish villages so that they will run away and you have your little Armenia. It didn’t happen. Plus Turks fought back. Now you are deeply angry because you also lost many of your own people. You feel like you lost everthing. You are absolutely right.

  • Extremely shallow and one sided.  You are a joke of an historian. Give us the background. Tell us about the Armenian killing gangs. Armenian revolutionaries who dreamt of Armenia by clearing the Turks and Kurds from the Eastern Anatolia. Tell us how they set out to achive it by killing innocent Turks and Kurds. You are so so biased, it is beyond imagination.... Let me guess you have a deep hatred of Turks and you held deeply racist feelings towards them.

  • I wonder what this guy says about the genocide of native americans

  • Or about the genocide of the AngloBoerWar: British concentration camps starved 35% of child population of Boer Republics; totally eliminated two Republics and gave Jewish-run Anglo-American & De Beers control of gold & diamonds.

  • that's ridiculous. one must be an idiot to name the khodjali massacre as a 'retaliation' for a genocide claim, which is said to take place 100 years ago.

    we are talking about raping little girls, and burning them alive. all of these have happened 8 years before millenium.

    Any kind of attempt to justify khojalu (hocali,karabag) massacre is inhuman. That's not about your nationality, that is about being human

    azeri genocid

  • good ,he is totally right

  • Dr. Weitz is so eloquent and I'm glad his voice is out there.

  • "Any doubt that may have been expressed in previous reports as to the Government's intentions in sending away the Armenians have been removed and any hope that may have been expressed as to the possibility of some of them surviving have been destroyed. It has been no secret that the plan was to destroy the Armenian race as a race..."

    Consul Leslie Davis to Ambassador Henry Morgenthau, Harpoot, 24 July 1915. United States Official records on the Armenian Genocide 1915-1917, pp. 461

  • Count Wolff-Metternich

    German Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire July 10, 1916, cable to the German Chancellor

    In its attempt to carry out its purpose to resolve the Armenian question by the destruction of the Armenian race, the Turkish government has refused to be deterred neither by our representations, nor by those of the American Embassy, nor by the delegate of the Pope, nor in deference to the public opinion of the West representing one-half of the world

  • British Viscount James Bryce

    October 6, 1915, speech

    The massacres are the result of a policy which, as far as can be ascertained, has been entertained for some considerable time by the gang of unscrupulous adventurers who are now in possession of the Government of the Turkish Empire. They hesitated to put it in practice until they thought the favorable moment had come, and that moment seems to have arrived about the month of April

  • Stanley Cohen, Professor of Criminology, Hebrew University, Jerusalem12/1/1995 - "The nearest successful example [of collective denial] in the modern era is the 80 years of official denial by successive Turkish governments of the 1915-17 genocide against the Armenians in which 1.5 million people lost their lives. This denial has been sustained by deliberate propaganda, lying and cover-ups, forging documents, suppression of archives, and bribing scholars."

  • Orhan Pamuk

    Famous Turkish author stated (and was put on trial for making this statement) in February, 2005...

    one million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody but me dares to talk about it.

  • Law professor Raphael Lemkin, who coined the term "genocide" in 1943, has stated that he did so "because it happened so many times... First to the Armenians, then after the Armenians, Hitler took action."

  • Turks! Foolish or smart! Ignorant or not! The noose is getting tighter around your corrupt republic neck! Soon, you'll be punished even in Turkey to Deny the Genocide! Watch how! 3 years ago the Genocide was a Myth for Turks! 2 years ago the Genocide was war atrocities for Turks! 1 year ago the Genocide was massacre for Turks! This year the Genocide was a 'joint study' matter for Turks! Next year......Abdullah Gul is SORRY!!! better be SORRY soon....Than CRIMINAL forever.
  • What u talking about.Ordinary ppl in Turkey can't discus this issue,because of military law on top of the Turkish constitution.You can't learn in history book either.

  • well people in Turkey can still buy books online and from other countries and read it in their homes....all it takes to start a fire is a spark, if Turks turn against their government's version of history, then that's when you're gonna have a revolution.

  • You know all this do you? fucking genius you are..why teach something that is controversial at best..why should I teach something that is going to be to your advantage? you can't do anything militarily so you wanna do it politically..admit it Arman.

  • @piskopatciletci What you mean????? you are strong and you can kill ha!!!!! well everyone knows that politically is not comprehensif to you and killing is your trade mark mr piskopatciletciman

  • The New York Tribune told its readers in the year 1919:

    the Turks have always been a parasite and a stench in the nostrils of civilization

  • Lord Robert Cecil

    Under-secretary of state for foreign affairs (House of Commons, Hansard (5th series), Vol. LXXV, 16 November 1915, Cols. 1770-1776.)

    I think it may be said, without the least fear of exaggeration, that no more horrible crime has been committed in the history of the world... This is a premeditative crime determined on long ago... It was a long-considered, deliberate policy to destroy and wipe out of existence the Armenians in Turkey. It was systematically carried out.

  • Enver Pasha - declared on 19 May 1916

    The Ottoman Empire should be cleaned up of the Armenians and the Lebanese. We have destroyed the former by the sword, we shall destroy the latter through starvation.

    In reply to US Ambassador Morgenthau who was deploring the massacres against Armenians - Enver's reply was :

    I have no desire to shift the blame onto our underlings and I am entirely willing to accept the responsibility myself for everything that has taken place

  • George Bush Sr.

    April 20, 1990, speech in Orlando, Florida

    [We join] Armenians around the world [as we remember] the terrible massacres suffered in 1915--1923 at the hands of the rulers of the Ottoman Empire. The United States responded to this crime against humanity by leading diplomatic and private relief efforts.

  • Jimmy Carter

    May 16, 1978, White House ceremony

    It is generally not known in the world that, in the years preceding 1916, there was a concerted effort made to eliminate all the Armenian people, probably one of the greatest tragedies that ever befell any group. And there weren't any Nuremberg trials

  • It's awful what had happened to the Armenians in 1915.

    Armenians were Christian minority living peacefully in the region;

    Peaceful enough not to be able to defend themselves against the atrocities committed against them. Turkish leadership could not see the idea of living together harmoniously, and tried to annihilate the defenseless Armenians.

    It's appalling the denial of the Armenian Genocide!

  • Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

    Founder of the modern Turkish Republic in 1923 and revered throughout Turkey, in an interview published on August 1, 1926 in The Los Angeles Examiner, talking about former Young Turks in his country...

    These left-overs from the former Young Turk Party, who should have been made to account for the millions of our Christian subjects who were ruthlessly driven en masse, from their homes and massacred, have been restive under the Republican rule.

  • Oufuk Ouras - left wing member of Turkish parlament -

    " The pain and sorrow resulting from the big tragedy of 1915 are very evident. It's not important what to call this tragedy - Genocide , Ethnic Cleansing... the important aspect is a Crime has been commited and this cannot be denied. We haven't gotten anywhere through our denialist policy".

  • Armenian Genocide

    /watch?v=dabX7-LgSac

  • Gerald Ford

    Addressing the US House of Representatives.

    Mr. Speaker, with mixed emotions we mark the 50th anniversary of the Turkish genocide of the Armenian people. In taking notice of the shocking events in 1915, we observe this anniversary with sorrow in recalling the massacres of Armenians and with pride in saluting those brave patriots who survived to fight on the side of freedom during World War I. - Congressional Record, pg. 8890

  • FUCK TURK GAVERNER, ATAT, TALAT, KAME

  • Adolf Hitler

    While persuading his associates that a Jewish holocaust would be tolerated by the west stated...

    Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?

    "Our strength lies in our intensive attacks and our barbarity...After all, who today remembers the genocide of the Armenians?"

  • Cemal Pasha

    To a German officer upon seeing the deportations in Mamure said...

    I am ashamed of my nation (Ich schame mich fur meine Nation)

    Minister of the Interior of Turkey publicly declared on March 15 that on the basis of computations undertaken by Ministry Experts...

    800,000 Armenian deportees were actually killed...by holding the guilty accountable the government is intent on cleansing the bloody past

  • LONG LIVE ARMENIA

  • TURKLASIN ANANI SIKIME

  • Shakespeare's famous play Othello, Othello says the following before stabbing himself

    Set you down this;

    And say besides, that in Aleppo once,

    Where a malignant and a turban'd Turk

    Beat a Venetian and traduc'd the state,

    I took by the throat the circumcised dog,

    And smote him thus.

  • if you wanna know the reality about (so-called) Armenian Genocide you should read the book that is name The Manifesto of Hovhannes Katchaznouni.. and he was First Prime Minister of the Independant Armenian Republic..

  • TURKISH GENOCIDE OF ARMENIAN POPULATION (1914 - 1922)

    ------------------------------­-----------------------

    Part-1

    Erzerum: (Before)215,000-(After)1,500

    Van: (Before)197,000-(After)500

    Kharbert:(Before)204,000-(Afte­r)35,000

    Diabekir:(Before)124,000-(Afte­r)3,000

    Bitlis: (Before)220,000-(After)56,000

    Sivas: (Before)225,000-(After)16,800

  • TURKISH GENOCIDE OF ARMENIAN POPULATION(1914-1922)

    ------------------------------­--------------------

    Part-2

    West Anatolia: (Before)371,800-(After)27,000

    Cilicia-Nth Syria:(Before)309,000-(After)7­0,000

    Eropean Turkey:(Before)194,000-(After)­163,000

    Trebizond:(Before)73,390-(Afte­r)15,000

    Total: (Before)2,133,190-(After)387,8­00 = 1,745,390

  • i suppose that u learn mathematic :P

  • Where know American Prof whats happening in Anatolia? Did he entering to Ottoman Archives? He have any evidence? Any proof or command about genocide? Armenian genocide are big lie. Never happening!

  • People know the truth here , just copy and paste it on youtube search, this is Turkish professor tells te truth about genocide remember it's not Armenian professor but Turkish " Turkish professor Taner Akcam - Armenian Genocide "

  • Let the truth be told about Genocide i have more proof , my Armenian people please copy that links and paste them on every turkish and Armenian youtube clips , it's turkish professor tells truth about Armenian genocide " Armenian Genocide. Taner Akçam: A shameful Act "

  • midnight express alinur velidedeoğlu

  • Very curiosity how many be I et has this imitation and trickster scoundrel take money this denies Armenian? The whole world knows what Armenian did become a liar. The genocide did not become time at all. This liar man Armenian become as imitation what and swindler she is showing.

  • Çok merak ediyorum, bu yalancı ve düzenbaz herif Ermenilerden kaç para almıştır bu yalanlar için? Ermenilerin ne kadar yalancı olduklarını bütün dünya biliyor. Soykırım hiç bir zaman olmadı. Bu yalancı adam Ermenilerin ne kadar yalancı ve dolandırıcı olduğunu gösteriyor.

  • cik avrupaya,veya herhangi baska ulkeye turkiyeden haric,bak book storá git ve lutven ogren kendi tarihini,zavalli aptaligin sonu yok,git ve oku ve ogren,insanlikdisi yapilanlari gozlerinle gor su kisi dedigin gitip okuyup ogrenip simdi de anlatiyor nasil oldugunu,

  • Where indications? Is this invented man sharpening a Ottoman language? The Turk has scrutinise their archives after the time comes? This stupid scoundrel has been purchased with the money from your Armenian side. Situations make her be understanding a plenty plenty lie. Where indications and evidences? History so shameless have been sell was on set up?

  • look all history books,you will fined there,very easy what turks did

  • We didn't forget armenian's terror ASALA!And we always remember armenian's support to kurdish terror PKK!Also we will always remember Hojali and Karabagh genocides!We die 1,return to life 1000!What happy to say I AM TURK! CcC 25O million Turkish World! Accept and recognize it and obey us!

  • "... there is an almost complete scholarly consensus that what happened to Armenians was most certainly a genocide ..." Dear anti-genocide Turks, do you like these words coming out from the mouth of an American professor?

  • for votes everybody can agree so called armenıan genocıde..... ıt ıs just a polıtıc game agaınst turkey... someones use armenıans... that genocıde lıe became a well paıd ındustry for dıaspora.. they earn a lot of money from taht lıe

  • as close as us iranian are to the turkish people, that shit did really happen. iran wouldn't have been flooded with armenians around the 1920s for no reason. as much as persians love to make jokes of turks for their stupidity, turkey's denial of the tradgedy is no joke. it's truley stupid

  • (A)nailed shut all of the Ottoman libraries so that they can go on denying the GENOCIDE, (B) burned books PRINTED all new school text-books, with NO mention what they did to the Armenians; that all of them were Turkish CITIZINS [Turkey killers of their own CITIZINS] And kept all of the Turkish population ignorant.(C) Government encouraged all to call Armenians GEVOUR ongoing to the present. How can the Turkish public put up with that kind of a Government; impeach all of the lying crooks now

  • A; nailed shut all of the Ottoman libraries so that they can go on denying the Genocide (B) burned books printed all new school text-books, with NO mention what they did to the Armenians; that all of them were Turkish Citizens. Kept all of the Turkish population ignorant.(C) Government encouraged all to call Armenians Gevour ongoing to the present. Turkish public put up with that kind of a Government; impeach all of the lying crooks now.

  • A)nailed shut all of the Ottoman libraries so that they can go on denying the GENOCIDE, (B) burned books PRINTED all new school text-books, with NO mention what they did to the Armenians; that all of them were Turkish CITIZINS [Turkey killers of their own CITIZINS] And kept all of the Turkish population ignorant.(C) Government encouraged all to call Armenians GEVOUR ongoing to the present. How can the Turkish public put up with that kind of a Government; impeach all of the lying crooks now

  • Turks might fly but only in airplanes

  • This is a response to Nabukadnezar1971

    (A) nailed shut all of the Ottoman libraries so that they can go on denying the GENOCIDE, (B) burned books PRINTED all new text-books, with NO mention what they did to the Armenians all of them were Turkish CITIZINS. That kept all of the Turks ignorant. (C) Government encouraged all to call Armenians GEVOUR ongoing to the present. How can the Turkish public put up with that kind of a Government; impeach all of the lying crooks now.

  • In all problems during and after WW1, Russian influence was more direct for a short time, but French one was more cunning. Both countries politics about this territory collapsed. The Armenians have been the victims of promises, no one were able to hold. Besides themselves, Armenians have France and Russia to blame for all pain they had in the history. Turks are last ones to be blamed for defending their lifes and motherland.

  • I think btw, if Armenians would apologize for what they have done to Turks between 1915-1917 as well as in 1980's, it would help them for getting more understanding and sympathy from Turks. There is no guarantee but it worths to try I guess. Turks have a tendency to forget quickly. But you insist with bullshit "Turks will beg on their knees" etc. you only anger us, no doubt.

  • GOD see everything and all world will recognized GENOCIDE because this is THE TRUE! the world have STOP CONTINUE GENOCIDE EVENTS. all people are human being. We will continue to REMEMBER until it's RECOGNITION !

  • I am Turkish. I warn people , especially Turks, do not swear, or use strong language please. That was no genocite, and mostly Armenians' own fault, but what happened to Armenians was surely a sad story and should be handled with respect. If you want to swear,do it at home and don't carry it here. Küfür etmeyin yakışmıyor size. Bildiğiniz bir şey varsa söyleyin. Öfke ve cehaletten kimseye fayda gelmez.

  • This is a response to Nabukadnezar1971 Soon the prime minister of Turkey on his knees begging for forgiveness from all of Armenians; the World and to installing a wreath on to the victims graves of the GENOCIDE. Just as In 1970: Chancellor Willi Brandt got down on to his knees to lay a wreath in honor of the victims of the Nazi holocaust. Turkish Government spends millions each year to lie to the World; by now the World knows all about the Culprid.

  • The world, you mean some countries who don't have to care relations with Turkey, and have a huge Armenian diaspora as voters. You will never be able spread your lies beyond internal politics of these countries. These lies make up the most important part of diaspora Armenian culture, with that you build your national identity in Europe. All nice to me as long as your Asala dogs don't make terror or support PKK, you can shout and make noise as much as you want.

  • for the armenian case spesifically, both sides lost 650.000 people from each side, however on the caucasian and east frant turkey millitery losses accounted to 2 million which includes the above 650.000 figure.armenians lost more i say becouse they lost half of thier population and all land and property unfortunetly.

  • that is why we have a dispute on the wording, you say genocide to create a legal position we say civil war, massacre, enforced immmigration etc. but we know that our parents lived so friendly for so many centuries but at the end imperialists came here and made us clashing. we both lost. ottamans lost 95 percent of our land and 4 million death tall, during WW1 and following years.

  • in fact they also try to create clashing between armaniens, azeries, turks, georgians, kurds as well as checens againist russia. here i should not discuss the frictions in above list you already know it. what makes turkey on alert is the followings.a)karabag disputes and its social reflection on the people b)armenia's demanding of land and moneytery compensasions from turkey due to historical events.

  • imperialist states are in diffuculty becouse of energy and world market and luch of demand matters. so they want to get into asia. to gate to asia is closed on the russian side so they run over coucasia and middle east. that is why iraq is invaded and iran is under threath. you know the stuiation in afganistan.

  • Armenians are Christians and know the jcLord's commends .they can forgive as their Lord asked them to do so but it only can come after an apology.The Turks are so paniked that the compansation may follow.

  • i want to talk to cleaver armeniens only. we all need peace but armenia needs more evidently. 1915-18 period was WW1 time and your grandparents united with french, british, italian, greek and russian millitary and fired, shooted us from insides of the country (killing 625.000 innocent village people) as well as outside of our borders jointly with russians, french and others. BUT YOU ALL LOST THE WAR. WHERE IS THE GENOCIDE OF THIS STORY. SIMPLY YOU ALL LOST THE WAR,accept it or not.

  • Tell me, what do you make of the video posted here?

  • this video is only propoganda. we dont know the credibility of this person plus what is important is the documents and real events of those years. it is all in history and archieves of not only ottaman but also russian, armenian, british, usa, france and italy, some arabs. we opened our archieves WHY you think the armenia is NOT opening her archieves to independent scientists and historians. BIGGG CRAPPP.

  • Also, do you think Armenians are guilty /innocent and vice versa for turkey?

  • i dont say that armenians are guilty, but they have started the events of those bad years by the manuplation of western imperialists. then the civil war also started along with the real war with russian, french, british, italians, greeks. armenians sided with anemies. but they all lost the war. imperialists quit the country and left the armeniens in the fire. we both lost bur armenians lost more.

  • Interesting, I myself (as you may have guessed by my name) am Armenian. I have heard the accounts of both sides of the 'affair'. I know that Turkey has, by all accounts a poor human rights record and Armenia, as with a number of other countries have serious issues with the recognition of events.

  • I know Armenians who hate Turks, and vice versa, I also know those who don't wish either side harm, but seek some form of verbal reconciliation. In my personal view, I would like to see a safer relationship in the region, including the other bordering countries, but I fear this will not happen in my lifetime, or for longer times to come, due to the religious nature that underlies the connection, and as you have put it, western imperialism - which has disrupted relationships in the area.

  • I can recommend further reading to you on this subject - I'll have to dig out a few books first though! I would welcome any further comments you have, and be interested in source materials you have to help continue the debate.

  • Hmm I posted a thrid email about continuing the debate and I could offer more materials (have to dust off some older books and check my links online first!), I would welcome any supporting materials you may have to offer also....?

  • dear sbaqhomian, thank you for your open and objective ideas. we are all human which is a very big credibility if we realy adore it.i am dealing and investigating about the armenian issue more than 10 years. basically i was born in the commen land of turks-armenians so full of strories, anectodes and mostly beautiful memories of our people. i visited so many places of that history. as a human i am objective. i will give you some links for some documents of both sides. we all suffered so much.

  • If the military hadn't taken over the control of the country(turkey)today this Armenian genocide problem would have been officialy acknowladged by turkish Gov,fortunately the free west is handling it's job well and our hope about REAL JUSTICE is not dead yet.

  • There are some of us in the world who dissagree with our Gov 's formal policies.We Turks aren't all grey wolfs ,even in Turkey we have big ideological differences and the faschist military kept opressing many of us.

  • Weitz's analogy is in the form logistics, i.e., Armenians were a threat to turkey therefore needed to be eliminated. This was never the case and this is just a quasi justification of a tremendous crime against humanity. Turks are just vicious animals and as the recent eventsin turkey indicate, they will always be taht way.

  • be honest. we humans are a vicious race

  • Quietly we forgive. Forever we remember.

  • Beside the bullshit this "paid" dog "campaigner" lobbyist , blaggering, i don't understand one more thing, howcome someone "smile" while actually talking about a "genocide"?

    Or is he laughing this "long tale joke" deep inside and just can not control it?

  • Liacansas sikdir lan amın oglu

  • fucking turks watch this video with your blind eyes and learn the reality or accept what you deep inside know is true cruel animals

  • Do you really watch this speaker. Can't you see the cinic and unsincere smile in his face. Check DASHNAGTZOUTIUN manifesto by Hovhannes Katchaznouni dated 1923. This is real history not like speculation based on nothing like the one above...

  • fuck you son of a beatch god knows the truth we protect our country

  • yeah god knows the truth for which the fucking ataturk together with the rest is burning in the hell, you are the next for denying a truth orospuyin chojuk, pezevenk amjikh

  • Turks are really ridiculous, I can't believe they are candidates for EU, let alone the possibility of them being admitted. It is unbeliavable that these kinds of myths persist.

  • you are so disgusting. just as disgusting as many ZIONISTS are

  • fuck you too

  • ah yes, you are a vulgar person in addition. no thank you.

  • osman, do you know what double-standards are?in case you don`t, cambridg.dic: treating one group differently than another LIKE "in having a tough law and order policy but allowing its own MP`s to escape prosecution and fraud."

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