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  • i was thinking about converting to LPG gas, but if it is cost efficent i will convert my old Panal Van, you yanks would call it a truck , but its an Australian Falcon you can see it on my youtube page i do love it, and would consider keeping it for as long as possible.

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  • And how much energy does it take to 1) buy 2 solar panels, inverter, brackets and wires 2) hire an electrician?

  • Curiously, those who complain about pollution from electric cars & hybrids don't actually give a shit about carbon output or climate change - they just think they have a valid argument against these vehicles. They don't however, as even a simple Google search will show.

  • yeah we all think that this is a cleaner car except its acctually the same if not worse than the gas power car. why? because it takes coal to make that electricity...big hole in ur logic...your welcome...just buy the normal cars so u dont waste money and time...

  • I talked to a guy who has done conversion for the fun of it like that on a classic car, he admitted that overall cost is too high for it to be financially efficient, even though you dont by fuel, you have to change batteries every certain amount of cycles, which cost thousands of dollars, the fact that was somehow not told in this video and other vids about electric cars.

  • @available724 "you have to change batteries every certain amount of cycles, which cost thousands of dollars, the fact that was somehow not told in this video and other vids about electric cars"

    And that should be tattooed on the forehead of every EV enthusiast. Hat tip to you for stating the ugly truth all these EV nuts will not talk about.

  • electric????????????????? ahhhhww! nothing sounds like a big block with a nice set of mufflers!!!!!!

  • I can't see petrol going away anytime soon! there are still many hurdles to make electric cars as user friendly as petrol cars

  • Can I ask you, what energy source is this truck charged with?? Chances are its Coal. Electric cars are no more efficient than Gas at 25%. Electric power plants are 40% efficient max, there is a 10 to 12% line loss, there is a 5%-8% charging loss, there is a few percent discharge loss bringing you back to 25% or less plus you have to haul thousands of pounds of batteres around. Your better direct burning the fuel.

  • @Texmurphy51 And how much energy does it take to: 1. Drill for oil 2. Ship it to a refinery 3. Refine it (now that's an efficient process) 4. Store it. 5. Transport it to you local gas station. 6. Store it. 7. And use it in an ICE with an efficiency of under 20%... Yeah you're better off using electric power. :D
  • @rock3tcat

    1. How are you going to charge your batteries?????

    2. If its other than with the EVIL Fossil Fuel then the same applies.

    3 Takes energy to Manufacture wind turbines, solar panels come from China & create toxins when mfg.

    4. Takes energy to install wind turbines, (est. say the turbine has to run for 2 years to pay for mfg & installation)

    5. After 20 yrs you have to take down the wind generator, energy

    6. Michigan State is developing a 60% eff combustion engine.

  • @rock3tcat sez "And how much energy does it take to: 1. Drill for oil 2 Ship it ..."

    Does not matter because thats the same process that must be used to charge electric cars.

    Electric cars use MORE energy if all is taken into account than ICE engines of same power & weight.

    Electric Car is 95%eff but,

    1) power plant is 35-40% eff

    2) 10-15% line loss to home.

    3) 10% chargin loss

    4) have to haul huge weight of batter around vs fuel.

    The Volt gets 36mpg with charged battery, without gets 44 without

  • @rock3tcat too bad that diesel generators make your electricity. electricity doesn't just come out of thin air

  • @automotiveDIY

    Actually it might. Remember, energy companies have an interest in people continuing to believe that. Look up Nikola Tesla some time, it's surprising what you might find.

  • no anything right? just in 5 years when those lead acid batteries go to shit you have to spend another 6 grand to get it going agian LOL oh 5 years if your lucky IF your lucky

  • You can buy a lot of gas for $14,000...

  • @koty123frontiernet You can also sell alot of the stuff u replace with an electric conversion for a nice sum of money to! The motor, the gear system, the muffler et.c, the computer box that gives all the insturcions to the car! My mitsubishi galant GLSI Hatback had a damn failure in the computer box! That alone costed me like 450 dollar for a USED one on the car scrap sight! So there is money to get from the things u take out from the car aswell! Awell if ur handy u can do much of it urself!

  • So excited that I will be able to convert my '93 Honda! I never want another car. Going to install solar panels for both charging batteries and photovoltaic cells to convert the sun's energy DIRECTLY into electrical energy.

  • i am SO hacked off with fuel prices, i have a ford mondeo and do 150 miles a day, i need a maximum speed of 80mph, can i get this with electric power?

    cheers

  • Where is the site that i can take the project details???

  • I like it. just saw Running On Lithium and that I like much more.

  • Why cant there be a belt attached to the drive shaft of the motor with a serpentine belt going to like 4 High output alternators and have those charge the batteries as you drive, Or charge one set of batteries while driving with another set? I am too poor to try this, will some one tell me why no one has done this.

  • @ThennyDlux Because it can't work. you will have more lost of energy than gain by the alternator. The only used that could be made of such a system is to charge the battery by braking the vehicule and be out when you accelerate or maintain your speed. But there is no drive shaft that could handle the tention of a belt on an alternator. You would more need a rotor like a electric brake system on truck.

  • OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now I wanna see a Suburban be converted to an EV. Therefore we can haul 9 with just electricity!

  • im going to build these for a part time job

  • bye bye petrolium,hello hello coalium.

  • @gilessmokey in England we have uranium

  • @fairyheli2 uranium, plutonium beryllium,tritium caesium wmd but not much renewable electric.

  • @gilessmokey it's not feasible to have renewable energy for a country smaller than texas with over a 1/4 of the us population

  • daniel dingel water car invention is better than any body else....

  • Nice concept!

  • wow thats alot, i would say all the parts i used for my conversion including batteries and everything was only around 2250 CND...

  • I support EVs with both my hands!!

  • Damb oil cartels and car companies keeping us suckling wasting money time and effort!!! If these guys and others I've seen can build this themselves you know Detroit can too!!!

  • these Fucking International Bankers are blood suckers!!! stopping progress

  • i think it saves a humanity a ton of work and another ton of production energy!!!

    No gasoline from crude oil, no motor oil, no transmission oil, no oil changes, no mechanical labor, no tune up, no timing belt, no radiator, no pollution...basically allowing Twenty Billion Hours a year of Free Human Time.

  • I've allways thought that to get around this short range driving would be to design the vehicles with easy out and in battery storage where one could drive into a specially set up service station and just exchange the bank of batteries for fully charged ones for a nominal fee and off they go while the others get charged and you could hire the batteries as like the trucking industry hires pallets for so much per day.A joining fee and minimum time contract 12 months-2 years.

  • Google "Project Better Place". They're building battry swap stations as you describe, but an "eMiles" system so you pay for the maintinence and replacement of the batteries as you drive (8 cents per mile) You can only get compatible cars from Nissan, Renault and Tesla however. For the time being anyway.

  • Citgo gas station buys their fuel from Venezuela

  • Good Afternoon all,

    I am impressed by this vehicle as it utilizes a donor that was ready for the scrap heap. The batteries are almost 100% with the acid as the only questionable recyclable component.

    With the investment in solar or other alternate energy source this vehicle will NEVER need fossil fuels. 90% of our driving is less than 25 miles a day at less than 50MPH.

  • How long would it take to spend 15k on fuel on petrol one?

  • I did the math on this a while back--If I recall correctly based on a 1989 Toyota truck with a V6 and gasoline @ 2.50 it would have taken about 4 years to spend 15K$ (US). Fuel costs varied between 1989 and 2004 but lead acid batteries could last about 4 years.

  • with todays gas prices near $3 a gallon and say your driving 10,000 miles a year, and your truck gets the best of 17mpg light footing it around. that means it would take 8.5 years to burn $15K worth of gas. $15,000/$3 = 5000 gallons of gas. 5000 ga x 17mpg = 85000 miles worth of driving / 10,000 miles per year = 8.5 years.. This number will go down the higher gas cost or go up the better MPG your vehicle gets.

  • first of all i run lithium's so i don't need to have huge space requirements compared to sla's and get more mpb / charge intake with higher a.h. also. How many people can say they run a snorkel kit on there daily drivers? not many unless they are poor and that's the only truck they own. I could go through and waterproof if i really wanted to but i have atv's if i want to do some watercrossing or mudding.

  • " How many people can say they run a snorkel kit on there daily drivers? not many unless they are poor and that's the only truck they own."

    Whoever said about me owning only one truck?

    I really would like to see you run your electric truck under water. LOL!

  • Good afternoon!

    Nice job- I like the vehicle- There have been comments against alternate energies to recharge a EV. Solar has come a long way and other than the USA lacking the infra structure to recharge the EVs will take over the roads within 10 years. Well maybe not be the only energy source but the predominate for 75% (as much as 90%) more of our normal commuting needs. I commute less than 30 miles every day total. If I had an EV it would not be my only vehicle but my primary.

    KUDOs!

  • my batteries do not fit into the bed . gas tank is removed and batteries sit in with custom mounts on both sides of the frame and just below level of the bed. I still have the exact same amount of space to use.

  • Sounds like you'd be lucky to get 20 miles on a full charge.

    By the way, my truck can drive submerged in water so long as the snorkel stays above the water line. How about yours?

  • an electric car doesn't need air so as long as it uses water proof motors (usually brushless dc motors) and enclosed circutry it can run just fine fully submerged. let's not forget that the early submarines used electric power when submerged.

  • @cyberlord64 They still do as far as i know. Only now they are powered by power turbines (which in turn is powered by steam from the nuclear reactor). Where as previous designs were powered by a bank of lead acid batteries that had to be charged with a diesel engine. If newer submarines were powered directly by the turbines, it would require a gearbox, which is very noisy. And in case you didn't know, noise is a bad thing (even deadly) on a submarine.

  • ok i tried i guess you'll be left in the dark since you can't change the way you think.. your kids would benefit though. solar panels will be mounted on a hard cover. will have plug connections so will be easy to unplug and lift off cover haul big things.

  • electric pickup trucks actually have atleast half of the bed filled with batteries to get a 30 mile range.

    you'd be lucky to fit a lawn chair in the back.

    stupid useless vehicle

  • Next step for me is installing solar panels on the bed and roof to charge while parked outside. currently doing research on the best panels for my use. I'll keep you updated when i get it completed with new stats/info. what's your email doug?

  • Thing is doug It seems like your a angry person . Don't ask for plans I won't give away my details of the build for free. took me 6 yrs of trial and error to get it right I'm sure you can figure it out yourself . First step is to sit down and do some research then some experimenting with your own and then you'll know what i say is true before you criticize someone with no prior knowledge or working prototype of your own. makes you look dumb at the end. Think before you talk.

  • also doug dangger if by chance i have to go somewhere and i am not fully charged which i already thought of this before i built it. what i did was installed a 10 hp briggs and stratton with a gen head to charge whenever i want ...no matter if on side of highway or out in the woods with no electrical source and while I'm driving if i want and by the way it also has the geet setup to minimize fuel consumption and environment impact. It's actually a multifuel. my grandpa hit the news in '75forhis.

  • Wow, so you have the ability to pull over for 6 hours and charge your car. HA-HA-HA-HA!

  • yes doug dangger! Now your starting to get the point. The whole point in the capacitors is surging the motor up to speed creating less draw on the batteries from start up where by increasing eff and reducing heat(amp draw) which is a loss in electrical energy. I never said anything about extracting power out of nowhere. I set mine up to be able to turn off the cap or bypass how ever you want to say it so i could have direct power from batts if i need be. like a race. I do alot better than 13's.

  • nice try to spin it as if you knew what you're talking about Mr. Moron.

    Capacitors still need a power source to charge. The only source of power is THE BATTERY.

    No matter how you cut it, you're DRAINING the battery.

    When you run an A/C, you have to spin a compressor. When you run a heater, you have to heat a heating element.

    You have any idea how much electricity A/C or heating unit consume? Hint: Capacitors won't do shit.

  • a power factor correction capasitor when used on ac current can save you up to 60% of energy depending on your load.

  • If I get a call at 2 in the morning, I just grab my keys and I'm off.

    If you get the same call, you jump in your truck and you stall 3 blocks later since you ran out of juice. LOL!

  • my car i charge with solar power and wind power not from fossil burning company's. my car charges when i sleep so it doesn't matter how long it takes(under 6 hrs) And actually i only run very few battery's it's the capacitors that do the work by surging the motor up to speed versus battery's doing all the work so i get 7-8 yrs out of my battery bank plus better eff. i can get almost 100 miles per charge plus beat you from the stop light if i switch off the capacitors. i'll be laughing at you!!

  • "capacitors that do the work by surging the motor up to speed versus battery's doing all the work"

    Hey stupid, the batteries do ALL THE WORK. Capacitors mainly hold charge for a SPLIT SECOND, that's it. They don't magically pull electrical energy out of thin air. Capacitors supply power for that split second dip in voltage. Going from stop to 60mph doesn't happen in a split second.

    You're such a fucking moron making shit up. Why don't you stick your dick in your battery terminals.

  • "beat you from the stop light if i switch off the capacitors. i'll be laughing at you!!"

    My truck runs the 1/4 13's all day on pump gas with shitty tires and a bed full of junk. Your electric truck probaly couldn't get to 60 mph in 13 seconds.

    You're the epitomy of stupidity.

  • "My truck charges in four hours."

    Mine refuels in four minutes.

    After 4 minutes I can drive for 400 miles. After 4 hours you'd be lucky to drive 40 miles.

    Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! Loser.

  • why in the hell would i convert my vette into electric , then it wont sound like a v8 at all

  • You're so full of confused ideas.

    We're in a recession and about to fall into a depression thanks to our moronic leaders.

    If people are losing their jobs and homes... who's going to buy an EXPENSIVE electric car that has limited range and pollutes the planet with its toxic batteries?

  • Batteries are recycled, your exhaust is not.

  • The toxic byproducts of your batteries are NOT recycleable.  They haunt the earth for MILLIONS of years.

    The cells used on your batteries did not pop out of thin air. They were DUG and MINED by FOSSIB FUEL BURNING earth movers.

    Refining and converting the raw materials into batteries TAKE ENERGY. Energy from FOSSIL FUEL BURNING power plants.

  • Oh and you think your car sprang up from thin air? At least my vehicle stops polluting once it it manufactured. No burning, leaking oil or toxic oil changes.

  • Your car pollutes when the hundreds of pounds of batteries are depleted. It pollutes when you plug it in the wall getting power from powerplants.

    Oil can be recycled.

    Your solar panels caused massive amounts of fuel to be burned when it was produced. Earth movers burned diesel fuel to dig the raw materials. They burned fuel when trucked into the manufacturing plant. The plant burned fuel to produce them. The truck burned fuel when delivered to your home.

    You're a dirty polluter!

  • "And what would happen if u set some wind turbines infront of the chassis?start spinning and put out even more to recharge the batteries...But some people dont think about that...or do they?"

    LOL! So cars will have a dozen pinwheels on the hood to "recharge" the batteries?

    Do you know that it will add DRAG! More drag = less fuel efficient. Sorry junior, but energy doesn't pop out of thin air.

  • "Better handling..."

    Heavier cars do NOT handle better, period.

  • "And did i forget to mention...totaly polution free?"

    Powerplants BURN FUEL to provide the power your electric car needs.

  • My solar panels on my home charge my EV and reduce my electric bill.

  • Your entire roof would have to be covered with solar panels to have the capacity to charge HALF the require energy an EV takes in full sunlight.

    What happens when it's cloudy? What happens when it rain? How out snow?

    To cover an entire roof of a house with solar panels would probably cost as much as your mortgage. You're a fool.

  • My truck charges in four hours. My solar panels cover 3/4 of my roof and have already paid for themselves. We have sunshine 10 months of the year. It never snows here. Even on cloudy days the panels produce some power. We also pay for wind and geo power through our DWP. We're part of a solution. You're part of the problem. You're the fool and everyone pays for your ignorance.

  • 4 hours to charge a car using solar cells? You are a fucking liar. The least you can do is to make your lie believeable.

    A 110v 30amp house power grid can barely charge a car in 4 hours and you want me to believe your solar cells can? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!

  • You give the impression of an oil company employee/beneficiary. even if the production of EVs required all the polluting you claim, the reality is that once the car is on the road, IT DOES NOT POLLUTE. batteries can be recycled or revived. there also exists 220v home power and cut charging time dramatically. i hope your 'oily' friends paid you well for standing with them.

  • I give the impression of a LOGICAL person. EVs will still pollute. Where are you going to get the energy to charge the batteries? Solar panels are INSUFFICIENT. You'll have to get power from power plants that BURN FOSSIL FUEL.

    Home charging station costs THOUSANDS of dollars.

    I hope your fat rejected president "Global Warming Nut" paid you well.

  • With my gas vehicle, I can drive as far as I want so long as there are gas stations around.

    You'd be lucky to get a 40 mile range with your electric car. Less than 1/2 of that if you need to run your A/C on the freeway. LOL!

  • its a starting thing dum fuck !

  • Electric cars are not feasable for majority of people on this planet semen breathe.

  • Well its not gonna be that long untill u have a reach for around 300 miles on one charge...Volvo is currently working on creating generators that is driven from all the wheels, generating power back to the batteries! With some magnetic setup, i bet they will be able to do it!

    Besides the new LIFE batteries has a recharge time of arround 2 hours...and there are allready batteries that recharges under 10 minutes...Althoug not on market! So u can bet there will be changes!

  • And did i forget to mention...totaly polution free?....and far less reparation costs if something breakes?.....Better handling...No noise...No petrol costs? no oil change....go do the math!...Its clearly govern silencing down this!

  • And what would happen if u set some wind turbines infront of the chassis? well its gonna help recharge the batteries aswell since when u speed up...those turbines will start spinning and put out even more to recharge the batteries...But some people dont think about that...or do they?

  • And if u wanna go even further...U can put on solar panels that needs no friction to collect energy....So yes...u can bet there already is technology that can make a car more or less going for free!

  • So if u wanna see new technology i think u should read up what u can do with nano technology, nvidia (who creates grafickcards to computer) is going to use that technology aswell...since nano technology is far far far far far better then todays grafickards today...and the estimated performance of a nano card is said to be arround 250 times faster then todays grafickcards...Just research it!

  • and if u dont believe me about the batteries....well heres a link!

    /watch?v=KCkXwwEC2p8&feature=f­vw

    Recharge 10 minutes....using nano! ;) have a nice day

  • "Lets see what the cost of fuel would have been at 220K miles @ 1.75 per gallon at 22mpg. (roughly estimate of average gas prices between 1989 and 2006.) $15,900 in fuel was spent or the same amount I paid for the truck new or the same cost to replace the batteries 3 times."

    Since you want to go back to 1989, it would've cost you $159,000 just to put together your electric vehicle with LEAD ACID batteries. LOL!

  • Keep up the good work!

    Batteries used in electric vehicles last 3 to 5 years are 100% recyclable. EV batteries are no different chemically than those already used by auto mobiles and trucks.

    Lets see what the cost of fuel would have been at 220K miles @ 1.75 per gallon at 22mpg. (roughly estimate of average gas prices between 1989 and 2006.) $15,900 in fuel was spent or the same amount I paid for the truck new or the same cost to replace the batteries 3 times.

  • The above estimate was based on a 1989 Toyota Pickup with a fuel injected V6 and 5 spd manual.

    Recharging EVs from the electrical grid, produces no more carbon than fossil fuels. If wind or solar power is utilized the vehicle runs for free. Not counting routine maintenance.

    But as fuel costs go up electric vehicles become more desirable than fossil fuels.

  • "If wind or solar power is utilized the vehicle runs for free."

    Wind powered generators and solar panel cells are NOT FREE. They cost THOUSANDS of dollars.

    Where are you going to mount your 100ft propeller, on the roof of your house? LOL!

    You can cover your entire roof with solar cells and you would only get enough juice to run a window fan.

    For the cost to go solar or wind, you can buy a new v8 truck with enough fuel to run it for half a century.

  • "Batteries used in electric vehicles last 3 to 5 years are 100% recyclable."

    They're not 100% recycleable.  Don't lie.

    It also TAKES ENERGY to recycle them. You'll also need huge earth moving fossil fuel burning machinery to mine for the battery cells.

    A refinery plant would have to burn fossil fuel to turn the raw materials into usable batteries.

    Batteries don't just pop out of a fairy's ass. It takes energy to produce and recycle them. The ones not recycled will haunt the earth.

  • Good news you will get new Nanotech battery A123 systems more powerful than Lithium-ion Powered ! The Nanotech battery quick charged in 5 mins get full , you will get about 450 miles range

  • where to purchase it and how much ?

  • true you have a good point cd and electronics would be a big factor

  • i dont understand the problem with range in the 1920s electrics could travel 100 miles were going back wards here lol and batterys were only 30 amp now there 800amp wats the deal with that we should be building cars to go 1000miles or more per charge

  • I voted you up, but you have to remember that cars back then weren't trying to power cd players and big honkin sound systems with Onstar navigation and auxillary outputs. I think that is the major difference is that manufacturers in order to get these to catch on are trying to keep all the bells and whistles. Because people feel like they need them.

    But im not an electrician or mechanic so I could be very very wrong. Just a thought.

  • @gratedrake1 most of the problem is weight. Cars back then didn't weigh nearly as much as they do now...all the safety features, creature comforts, materials used and what not is very different from back in the 1920's where for example tires where much thinner, cars were made out of thin metal with no safety engineering at all, not to mention forget about A/C and gigantic comfy leather seats like we have today. It does suck though that we can't build cars with high travel range.

  • @gratedrake1 also don't forget that the power that we want today is MUCH more than what we had in the 20's, 300hp motors are a lot of power compared to maybe 20-40hp of back then.

  • yeah it takes 24 hours to get a full charge, and on a full charge i can go 50miles. Sucks donkey dick

  • This is the future anyway.

    It'd be smart to adapt

    Bye bye petroleum

  • cool

  • Go Fox Valley Electric Auto Association!!!! I didn't know you had this video. Super. My 2002 hybrid Insight has a couple 200k on it and the NiMH batteries don't show any sign of wear. If and when it begins to fade I'm definitely going pure EV and may call on you all. Any thoughts about the Firefly foam lead batteries since we can't get any Panasonic NiMH's anymore? (Or can we?)

  • 13k to convert, lmao..

  • for a used car with shot engine that doesn't cost much, conversion wouldn't be that bad, considering the fact that it saves so much on energy costs. Its definitely cheaper than a hybrid.

  • ev drive is the futur

    THEY NEED TO START MANUFACTURING THESE SOON

  • Do people think that electricity magically appears? What about the powerplants that burn the coal to produce electricity?

  • People think that there are a lot of ways for getting electricity.

    E.g. Denmark produces 30% of all electricity by wind turbines.

  • Eventually all power stations will be solar, wind, or nuclear fusion powered...there is no choice...oil will run out in approximately 30 years (probably less since demand is outpacing output)

  • hey tags, even if my EV is charged by all coal generated electricity, i'm STILL much cleaner than your gas car... internal combustion engines are something like 18% efficient. pathetic....

  • coal ware da hell u live lol prolly the usa but enw ays in canada we have hydro and nucular pwer mostly hydro runs by water the only down fall is it effects the enviorment a bit

  • I'm just worried lower gas prices will stop the momentum for EV.

  • Good thinking yes!

    We have to look at the TOTAL cost!

    Not just the cheap cost to recharge the batteries.

    Batteries can be recycled but the cost to replace probably similar to replacing a petrol engine every 2 or 3 years!!!

    Laptop batteries get only approx 2 years you may notice!

  • A properly maintained gas engine will last you atleast 10 years. My truck is 15 years old and has 220,000 on the ORIGINAL engine.

    Your stupid batteries will only last you 2 - 3 at most.

    A new short block will only cost me $1,200 and is good for another 15 years.

    Your new batteries will cost you $3,000 for what... just 3 years? My old engine will not haunt the environment. It can be recyled. Your battery will have to be buried for 10 million years.

  • I,m converting my car to run on compressed air like the aircar in spain runs

  • What? you wouldn't let him plug in for 3 hrs. and drive home?? hmm

  • EV IS THE FUTURE !

  • @kostea13 Yes & the future is here- ravasity.com

  • Check out the technology on magnets... no need for electric cars or generators, the magnets generate all the elctricity or motivation you need. cars, trains, aircraft rocket engines and the hold their charge for 400 years... search youtube...

  • bye bye petroleum

  • For cars only but not for trucks.

  • 9 grand for parts?? What a thief that guy is. My buddy just converted his Tercel with a 19hp forklift motor and a slew of batteries for under 2k.

  • Might want to stop back by the petrolem company since your power bill just went up and after all power is made mostly with patrolem.But i do respect the effort and ideas like this do change the world.

  • we get it smart ass =P

  • i doubt it's coming from petro. more likely coal which in these electric cars translates to WAAY cheaper and WAAY cleaner than gasoline.

  • we need to start innovating and quit letting japan take all the glory

  • I had built one, but it failed <I live in Michigan.Unfortunatley the thing failed, because of the cold would'nt allow the batteries to get a good chage,defrosters dont work very well neither.and no heat, if you pluged one of those 12v heater it made the range even less.They're work fine in a warmer climant,or maybe just the summer but usless in a cold one.

  • This is how you yanks can get back to being a great nation. That pioneering spirit of just doing it yourself. Screw the government, the Federal reserve cartel and oil company and media monopoly's.. Just make it yourselves. The stone age did not end because they ran out of stones.

  • wow the hicks found out what the scandinavians have been doing for years. good for them.

  • hahaha!!

  • yea, but who cares about the scandinavians anyways?

  • don't they have batteries now that get 100 miles per charge? let's get going!

  • now what we need is batteries in compartments charging at our houses on lifts then we hoist the dead ones out and let those charge and then get the newly charged ones in and your good to go for another 50 miles or so or you could have both in the bed of the truck and if one goes dead plug in the other

  • Yeah i thought that would be cool if it slid out on rollers and a new pack just slid right in..

  • with Gasoline now exceeding $4.30 a gallon makes these vehicles more attractive

  • and charging the batteries would cost you from $0.30 cents up to $1.50 dollars, this is awesome!

  • They need a nother or bigger battery and turn all 4 wheels into generators Plus maybe a small enging to recharge the batterys when needed.

  • check out 'danny devito electric car' on here. he desribes how the ev1 he had, had 'regenerative breaking' and would partially recharge the car while coasting downhill if a short hill and recharge more on a long hill.

  • The news has no clue towards the end in making the remarks on "down sides."

    The only downside is not having a on board bio-diesel generator to maintain batteries for extended range. Or even a trailer that had a generator mounted on two wheels for the ability to un-couple it from the vehicle.

    It really is sad how they think they have the facts straight and they are truly clueless as ever. News == Slanted

  • I think that eventually these will be worth if your just driving to work or back. but when it comes to hauling and stuff like that its not gonna be effieceint and think about construction vehicles it will never work for them! overall there not worth it.

  • It continues being very expensive because the Kw-h costs $0,08 in the U.S. and you will need about 2000 KW-h to move this car just during a week. The oil's price is still cheap if you compare it with the electricity's price. I think the oil's price will continue increasing 'cause you don't have other options ....

  • You don't know what you're talking about!

    An average gas car costs about $20 per 100km while an EV costs more like $1.00 per 100km.

    At $0.08 a Kw/hr the cost of running an EV is 1/20 to 1/30th the cost of driving a petrol ICE.

  • he can't charge it at the news station?

  • So to convert a car at that shop, it's roughly $15,000 all together.

    It would take what, 3 years to make up the costs of gas?

  • much less than that since there won't be oil changes and other type of maintenance. In long term it will be a lot worth

  • We will also have cars that run on compressed air, ( See Zero Pollution Motors ) and cars

    that will get over 100 miles per gallon,

    ( See Aptera Motors ) Besides that, electricity will be made from solar and wind, so that oil will become a memory from the past....

  • If that truck has a good range, and a top speed of at least 80mph, I would surely buy it once available.

  • And the electricity comes from the magic energy fairy, so this is sustainable!!!

    NOT.

  • Yeah! With the EEStor ultracaps. I talked with EESTor's president (Richard Weir), and he said they are making excellent progress with it. I'm really excited!

  • I am very excited. Can't wait until they are permitted to be driven in Canada!!!!

  • It just costs to much. If you want any decent range you need lithium ion batteries. Add another couple grand to the parts list. I like electric but the batteries aren't quite there yet.

  • If its effecient at low speeds and short range why not add 200 pounds of combustion engine to powertrain for higher speed ability and range, with a clutch and maybe connected by chain.Just seems like you could have best of both worlds don't you think? Oh hello hybrid, didn't see you standing there.

  • If I'm not mistaken... he said a $13,000-$14,000 conversion will give you a50 mile range? Man... why doesn't everybody do this. ~sarcasm~

  • Why don't they just build electrics instead of leaving us with expensive one-off conversions?

    ~not-sarcasm~

  • Why? Because electric engines currently have shit drive ranges, are expensive and extremely bulky.

    I don't even want to know what an electric car would cost that can get 400 miles per charge & drive at 75MPH. That's what the average car/truck can do and it only needs a 3,000USD-4,000USD (if that) compact engine in it.

  • First of its not an "engine" its a motor, and its not the motor that has issues its the batteries, and production electric cars would use lithium ion batteries not lead acid(Like the one to start your car) which have better energy density, and allow one to go upto 250 300 miles before recharging, and can be charged in 2 hours OR less with new battery technology, GM already made a practical one but then crushed it because the didn't want to change.

  • The limitation is the battery technology, not the motor. The electric motor is on average 5x more efficient than gasoline engines and makes a much more pleasant noise; none. all the stagnation brought on by people content with stinky, poluting and overpriced Gasoline has meant little research into battery tachnologies. if we'd have spent 1/10th the money on batteries we spent on perfecting the gasoline engine, we'd have batteries that COULD drive your car 400 miles, cheaply.

  • GM will have an all electric car for sale again in a year or two. It's called the volt & it's cool. Check it on google.

  • And I'm Robert Dinero

  • Volt will have 40 mile electric range. My home conversion will cost $3000, and will have a range of 45 miles. The Volt will cost about $35,000. That's just embarrassing. Plus, I hate GM after they and Chevron killed larger than 10 AmpHr NiMH battery distribution. They sued Panasonic for trying to use them. GM should bow to the Japanese.

  • Yea free yourself from parasitic Rockefeller and Bush OIL companies which nobody needs.Go electric ...

  • i will NEVER own an electric vechiles ever, too many trouble with electrical problems down the road cuz i used to have a golf cart and always having problems with it so i traded it to a gas golf cart and will soon convert it into propane E.V. suck, im sorry but they do