she's beautiful. is she being marketed as a business jet or a "personal" jet? she looks like she'll be an uncomfortable ride in gusty winds or even light turbulence. i wonder what the winds were on landing...she reminded me of an rc plane (in skilled hands) on landing. she must be very light. would love to know more about its pitch, roll, and yaw stability in light turbulence. (fascinated by a/c design and aerodynamics.)
It out performs the Citation Mustang in all categories except flight with one engine out. A Meridian turbo prop goes for about $2.2 million and this will certainly be more expensive, if it is priced close to a Mustang, the multi engine safety factor that the Mustang has will tip the scales in favor of Cessna. Engines sometimes ingest birds or blow up or suddenly quit, for $2.5+ million I expect to live through such a scenario.
@fbhjr68 That sounds good. I'm a fan of the FlightGear project, even though some of the models leave something to be desired due to their lack of development. Any idea when we might see your PiperJet available?
mmmmmm!!!!!!.....I would like to say it is a nice plane......but something is not good enought.......or in other words.....something it is wrong.......
I liked it pretty much. The elevated engine shielded by the fuselage makes this airplane a nice candidate for unprepared runways - truly interesting considering it's a jet. However, i think i lacks a thrust reverser to make landings shorter than the informed 2500 ft (~ 762 m).
the only question remaining is what native american name theyll give this one....hopefully squanto....i love pipers though...im earning my wings in a warrior like many before me
@dave0mary Prolly because the engine is on the aft part of the plane, so naturally its counter weighting towards the front is just as high. Pitch stability has to be improved with a larger horz. stab.
(A special note for our non-aviation knowledgeable guests: The "Big Horizontal Stabilator" is an upside-down wing. That means its lift vector is downward, unlike the main wings upward lift vector.)
@jwhoneycomb: A special note to all, knowedgable about aviation or not. THIS aircraft does not have a stabilator. It has a horizontal stabilizer and elevator(s).
@superskullmaster-I think a BD-5J would probably give a closer feel and would be cheaper if that is what people wanted. I think this is for someone who wants a business jet but can't afford to deal with taking care of two engines. Since the wings aren't swept and since it has one engine, it would probably be easier for someone with time in a prop driven plane to transition into.
The designers at Piper Aviation have compensated for engine being mounted above the centerline with an automatic pitch/trim system that will keep the aircraft stable despite the addition or reduction in power to the engine. It's similar to the fly-by-wire setups they have in the F-117 Stealth Fighter.
Very impressive.
apacheaviator1 5 months ago
No reverse thrust in these turbo-fan aircrafts?
PlasticC4 6 months ago
I would more likely look for cirrus vision jet. it looks more aerodynamic.
alivefrom88 6 months ago
100% love this.
I remember reading about this type years ago when they were first coming on line. This is very impressive.
NIKONGUY1960 7 months ago
Please god let me find $2million.. plus a little extra for fuel.. and maintenance... and story costs.. and insurance.. and whatever else!!
millsathn 7 months ago
The video said trailing link mains, but that sure looks like oleo strut mains.
av8rdav 8 months ago
2200000$
jancio2 9 months ago
This is an all-around beautiful airplane. I sincerely hope to be the proud owner of one of these magnificant aircrafts in the future.
JustinJMiller 9 months ago
why are the gears up win its high up
pricelessppp 9 months ago
Probably everybody knows this, but just in case...
KCAS = Knots Calibrated Air Speed
100 KCAS = 100 Nautical Miles Per Hr (air speed) = 185 KPH
Great job Piper Aircraft and the Piper Jet Engineering Team!
Mathview 10 months ago
Classy winglets.
Mathview 10 months ago
No fancy rudder effort needed when one engine fails like those pesky twins :P
94z07 10 months ago
Bugly itch, isn't it!
schlusselmensch 11 months ago
@schlusselmensch Who cares if it gets you there!
falcondriver100 10 months ago
she's beautiful. is she being marketed as a business jet or a "personal" jet? she looks like she'll be an uncomfortable ride in gusty winds or even light turbulence. i wonder what the winds were on landing...she reminded me of an rc plane (in skilled hands) on landing. she must be very light. would love to know more about its pitch, roll, and yaw stability in light turbulence. (fascinated by a/c design and aerodynamics.)
Relistener 11 months ago
@Relistener
According to the test pilot, it handles and rides about the same as a Mirage or Meridian.
FalconDave2 8 months ago
Just ugly.
flexairz 1 year ago
It out performs the Citation Mustang in all categories except flight with one engine out. A Meridian turbo prop goes for about $2.2 million and this will certainly be more expensive, if it is priced close to a Mustang, the multi engine safety factor that the Mustang has will tip the scales in favor of Cessna. Engines sometimes ingest birds or blow up or suddenly quit, for $2.5+ million I expect to live through such a scenario.
At least the Cirrus jet has a parachute.
AC6RH 1 year ago
Looks sweet. I'd get one! Hard to believe it has more range & speed than a Mustang. Very cool.
bg11215 1 year ago
Awesome jet, 10 times better than the Cirrus Vision Jet
zombiesurfer1 1 year ago
It's growing on me.
dearthpanda 1 year ago
I don't think I sent this sales video to you, with the Coldplay rip off music, but it is fun to watch. :) I'm modelling this in 3D for FlightGear Sim
fbhjr68 1 year ago
@fbhjr68 That sounds good. I'm a fan of the FlightGear project, even though some of the models leave something to be desired due to their lack of development. Any idea when we might see your PiperJet available?
LateNightCable 1 year ago
Beautiful lines on that plane. Georgous jet. Faster cruise than the citation maverick.
Low fuel consumption. Winner !!
satexadmin 1 year ago
can the wings designer please review the wing angle???.......
I'm in the idea that plane can be more efficient..........for much!!!!!
just making "small" changes
antonio10221022 1 year ago
mmmmmm!!!!!!.....I would like to say it is a nice plane......but something is not good enought.......or in other words.....something it is wrong.......
antonio10221022 1 year ago
Don't think it will be a big seller. Kinda noisy on take-off and I don't like the single engine. Also, the range is short.
lakewood85 1 year ago
I liked it pretty much. The elevated engine shielded by the fuselage makes this airplane a nice candidate for unprepared runways - truly interesting considering it's a jet. However, i think i lacks a thrust reverser to make landings shorter than the informed 2500 ft (~ 762 m).
cmtecarvalho 1 year ago
the only question remaining is what native american name theyll give this one....hopefully squanto....i love pipers though...im earning my wings in a warrior like many before me
manifestgtr 2 years ago
That is a massive horz. stab. - why?
dave0mary 2 years ago
Better control at maximum operating altitude of 35000 ft.
GLICKMIRE 2 years ago
A larger horizontal stabilizer is required when the distance from its aerodynamic center to the aircraft's CG is small. (Less of a moment arm)
fnc5002 2 years ago
@dave0mary Prolly because the engine is on the aft part of the plane, so naturally its counter weighting towards the front is just as high. Pitch stability has to be improved with a larger horz. stab.
tisoy909 2 years ago
Quote: Why?
Answer: Because it was necessary.
(A special note for our non-aviation knowledgeable guests: The "Big Horizontal Stabilator" is an upside-down wing. That means its lift vector is downward, unlike the main wings upward lift vector.)
jwhoneycomb 2 years ago
@jwhoneycomb: A special note to all, knowedgable about aviation or not. THIS aircraft does not have a stabilator. It has a horizontal stabilizer and elevator(s).
dave0mary 2 years ago
@dave0mary You are correct for this particular aircraft. The question below referenced a "horz. stab.", thank you for your keen eyes.
jwhoneycomb 2 years ago
@jwhoneycomb-You also might want to point out for the "non-aviation knowledgeable guests" That it is at the back of the airplane;)
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wannaholidaltour 2 years ago
This is a beautiful aircraft, Go PiPer!!! Cessna sucks!
JoseAlfRodriguez 2 years ago
1.I am new to flying help me out can that single engine plane fly from NYC to LA on a full tank or do you have to stop and refuel
MrWorldbefree 2 years ago
1300nm of range with full tanks..with 800lbs max payload..
stefil9 2 years ago
@MrWorldbefree-The maximum range was 1300 nm according to this video. I think the distance from NY to LA is more like 3000-4500 NM.
Chopin742 2 years ago
Actually, KLAX to KJFK (straight line / great circle) is 2151 nautical miles.
jwhoneycomb 2 years ago
That is what I get for not double checking.
Chopin742 2 years ago
It was just pointed out to me that I was wrong. The direct route is 2165nm and great circle 2151nm
Chopin742 2 years ago
Its square windows reminds me of Commet aircraft. And ceiling of level 330 makes me to think - let us wait and see.
Best of luck!
look8u 2 years ago
Great!
Much better than Eclipse, D-Jet or Cirrus Jet.
After the Malibu Meridian my next step.
SwissPrivateBanking 2 years ago
I want one!!!...
flightgeek14 2 years ago
Thats a big ass engine. Looks like they went for the "this is as close as your gonna get unless you buy a viperjet to an F-16 experience" feel.
superskullmaster 2 years ago
@superskullmaster-I think a BD-5J would probably give a closer feel and would be cheaper if that is what people wanted. I think this is for someone who wants a business jet but can't afford to deal with taking care of two engines. Since the wings aren't swept and since it has one engine, it would probably be easier for someone with time in a prop driven plane to transition into.
Chopin742 2 years ago
But the engine DC10 like configration realy hit me.The pushing line is too high es for a small A/C.
browing1974 2 years ago
The designers at Piper Aviation have compensated for engine being mounted above the centerline with an automatic pitch/trim system that will keep the aircraft stable despite the addition or reduction in power to the engine. It's similar to the fly-by-wire setups they have in the F-117 Stealth Fighter.
tchapman1977 2 years ago
This is going to be a monster hit for Piper for the next 25 years. Job well done.
7kidchaos 3 years ago 2