Without DoC Japan version.. you cannot play DoC US Version. pls don't call them sucky you idiot. maybe US just improved the game because they know they are not a hardcore gamer like in Japan.
i think some changes make the us and pal version better, but i like old-style limit breaks and japanese voicing, the story is more like it should be in japanese
Yeah and actually i gotta admit the english voice may get kinda annoying when heard alot because its rly low patched and sounds rly rough so sometimes it hurts my ears "kinda" the japanese one wasnt anything extra ordinary either.
Yeah I know what you mean, but never mention Clouds voice......... *worse voice ever*.... I mean when i heard the ending of Crisis Core I laughed instead.
lol yeah but i actually like the voice of this vincent in japanese damn couldnt have gotten the japanese version instead because of the gameplay minus'
@Psychicqueen He was excellent, a fine example that American voice acting can sometimes outdo the Japanese. Most of the time I prefer JP over NA for voices, but DoC is an exception. Tales of Vesperia is another example.
It's too bad they didn't give us the option of choosing between Japanese or English voices. Not that I hate the English voices, I just prefer Japanese.
Does anyone know of any patches or undubs made? I'd even settle for watching the game online with subtitles.
lol America's like a child that needs constantly entertained if you know what i mean because thats y they made it better, also the Japanese like strategy Americans like action thats the way it goes
IGPXer, there are quite a few ways to go about it to unlock region protections and read backups for example, but those ways involve some risks to the console and you can usually expect your warranty to be compromised. I didn't attempt anything on mine, though I admit the prospect is very tempting xD
I'm not sure but I think the the online mode was removed from the western version of DoC and replaced with unlockable events. But in the DoC Online (Japanese version) you played as a Deepground soldier fighting your way up in hierarchy to become a Tsviet or something...
centraluv14, I was talking about the Online Mode (in the Japanese Version of the game only) in which we play as a DG/Tsviet woman. Cait Sith is the other playable character in Single Player Mode (which is the only Mode that made it to US/PAL versions).
Ah yeah, I'm sure now because I've played the game already (PAL version). But you can look here on YouTube for the Dirge of Cerberus Online FMV's. There's about 12 brief cutscenes - I've seen them already and they show us the playable character and a lot of background story to the Tsviets that unfortunately didn't make it to the US/PAL versions of the game.
Lol, I beat the US version. Never played the Japanese version. It seems more realistic in the Japanese version, but the US version is better for game play.
One thing that I can say, everything sound so cheap when I hear those English voices. That goes for animes too. Its best original unless the story is placed in US.
Wait...if it's more realistic...how come you can't shoot when you jump? Also, Vincent isn't that fast, except for in the cutscenes. Hell, I probably run faster..... Why are your complaints "it's MORE fun in the American version" & "it's more realistic in the Japanese version" (which, as I just explained, isn't the case)? I'm not seeing any sense in your arguments here....
Wrong. There were no Jenova cells actually used on Vincent or else he would have manifested Geostigma in Advent Children. Well, now that that otakunote is done, I'm glad you brought this up. I was getting sort of tired about all the complaints about the "sucky American version getting rid of the online mode." Not that I PERSONALLY care, but it's always good to have something in store to make the annoying whining around me stop.
ok ok we get it, the japanese version is both emotionally and physically fulfilling in every way, but ask yourself one question, why would a fantasy game be made realistic, maybe you dont understand the concept of final FANTASY, as in a fantasy game, not a realistic world war 2 shooter like brothers in arms, this game was made not to be realistic, thats why you can turn into a warewolf when he reaches his limit break.
I am not talking about the actual concept. Ok look in other stuff. Ok I am gonna sound really stupid but in the gaming Harry Potter it was pretty realistic. NOT THE MAGIC SPELLS OR THE ANIMALS but Harry himself because he could only jump a certain distance and run etc. it makes the player (some of us atleast) feel like were in the characters shoes. Its trying to be realistic to make the person playing feel like their in the game.
i understand what you mean but when you follow the story line of final fantasy 7,vincent was genetically altered with jenova genes, just like cloud was, and look at teh type of things cloud did in advent children, the guy defies gravity on numorous occasions. on the otherhand, harry pottter is a normal kid aside from the magic, but hes still bound by gravity.
No, I probably can't run that fast. I also can't jump my own height from a standing position, which he can do in the Japanese version. I can't aim in third person, but I can't look over my own shoulder to aim in pseudo-first-person either, as you do in the Japanese version. And how is faster firing unrealistic? Some guns fire faster than others. And Japanese people prefer more realistic games? What, like the even *more* arcadey Devil May Cry series?
Dude. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. How the flying fuck is there any difference at all? They're both the goddamn same, you elitist bastards. e_e
i liked the idea when they made the camera on shoulder view, now that usa had chaged it to area view. i have to brwose around, when i could've just turned around.
Well, all you illiterate bastards can have your half-assed dubbing, but I very much liked the original voices tyvm. They couldn't just put in the original voices with subs, they had to put in out of sync denotes to what was decent acting. Cid sounds like he stepped out of a trailer, Cloud sounds like he stepped out of middle-school, Yuffie sounds like she stepped on shit. These dubbing bastards are gonna pay, damnit!
you only think it sounds like shit cause its your second language and you are comparing it to your first which you are more used to. its not better acting or worse acting, its jsut different types of acting, different languages havedifferent ways of expression.
The dude sounds like fucking Batman. I was so excited when I saw all the press releases saying that Gackt was going to play the voice of Vincent in an upcoming FF7 game. I think I'm not the only one that feels cheated by not having even the option of being able to play the game with the original voicing cast... Than... *than* Gaming TV stouts about how the American version has been dumbed down for the less capable, American audience. Yeah, like that hasn't been done before.. owell.
Opinion noted. Say. How about while we're at it bring the Monna Lisa over here and make her look more American. We'll put a farmers hat on her with a wal-mart shirt on. And we can even have her look all dirty. Maybe put a few cheeseburger wrappers around her.
Well yeah, but I mean c'mon. This was Gackt. How many people who would have intent on buying this game know who Gackt is ? Gackt is awesome, and his voice is legendary.
Gah! I hate Vincent's english voice!! The Japanese one is SO MUCH BETTER! Not to mention it's become, like, my most favorite voice ever. ^_^ <3 so gorgeous. Seeing what they've changed from the Japanese version, I'm glad I have the english one. ^_^
y'know that always makes me wonder, how when we rag on english voice actors for being annoying, do the peeps in japan make fun of their voice actors? O.o hmmmm....
IGN gave it a 7/10 rating..pretty decent, but hey its something never done before- Shooter RPG from a nation that 99% of the populace doesnt place shooters(Japan)
must kill yuffie voice actor (after i kill aerith's voice actor in kh 2) other than that hope cloud has some parts in it besides that one... oh well GOOOO VINCIENT!!!
the US version is awesome.
TheShaad50 3 weeks ago
Without DoC Japan version.. you cannot play DoC US Version. pls don't call them sucky you idiot. maybe US just improved the game because they know they are not a hardcore gamer like in Japan.
AkiraBeyondBirthday 1 month ago
The Us version is clearly better as we can see, except for one thing -
No DoC Online! The plot is far less interesting without the subplot that hold roots in the game.
Cainleer 1 year ago
the us ones too easy the japanese version is more challenging
MKA1234able 1 year ago
This game was made to compete with Devil May Cry
OhTheFall 1 year ago
why can't they just add english subtitles to these games? english voice acting sucks.
Littlenumber9 2 years ago
this actually introduced me to shooters
jungleman68 2 years ago
english voice doesn't suit him at all. Steven Blum has too many of the same voice for different characters. Snake and Wolverine are examples.
starfox15 2 years ago
@starfox15 you realize Snake is voiced by David Hayter...
Momentum139 1 month ago
Japanese!!!!! Much better!!!!
Kiobeshinobi 2 years ago 3
hmm.. why did 99% of the games we play come into the market in japanese before english ?
Lingadil 2 years ago
because they are made in japan. the one percent are the makers that are not japanese
alluren0 2 years ago 2
@Lingadil because they are developped in japan... for once.
Also, because we're lucky we get them at all... most of the games made in japan don't make it to the US
Xubose 1 year ago
you said "Transformation"...............
It's Limit Breaker lol
jamalangmalakas 2 years ago
I liked Zack, Cloud, Vincent, Yuffie and Reno's english voice actors extremely better than the Japanese, personally.
seeleyboothfan 2 years ago
i think some changes make the us and pal version better, but i like old-style limit breaks and japanese voicing, the story is more like it should be in japanese
cheeseybananas 3 years ago
i hate things dubbed in english.... -.- it SUCKS!!
xRS23x 3 years ago 2
Hey, I agree with you, dub version do suck. I like my anime in Japanese english subs
JapanRules7 2 years ago
Same here *esp Clouds voice, it doesn't suit him at all*.
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XenoAlex2222 3 years ago
Oh man, I want this game T.T Unfortunately, I live in Norway, and far away from big towns, so it's not easy to get...
I prefer the Japanese voices, because I'm a fan of Japanese, but the English voices are also very good :)
SilverPhoenix13 3 years ago
Sorry, but japanese voices are a lot better than english voices =_=
Kouzuii 3 years ago
Maybe I'm just Biased, but I thought Steve Blum did pretty well as Vincent.
I am a huge fan of the Japanese voice cast though.
Psychicqueen 3 years ago 11
i like the japanese voices more too but yeah that guy did a fkn good job as vincent.
ShiroKreuz 2 years ago 6
Agreed.
ChibiPockystick 2 years ago
Yeah and actually i gotta admit the english voice may get kinda annoying when heard alot because its rly low patched and sounds rly rough so sometimes it hurts my ears "kinda" the japanese one wasnt anything extra ordinary either.
ShiroKreuz 2 years ago
Yeah I know what you mean, but never mention Clouds voice......... *worse voice ever*.... I mean when i heard the ending of Crisis Core I laughed instead.
ChibiPockystick 2 years ago
lol yeah but i actually like the voice of this vincent in japanese damn couldnt have gotten the japanese version instead because of the gameplay minus'
ShiroKreuz 2 years ago
yeah Vincents voice wasn't as bas other character, also I like Zacks voice also, since it wasn't as bad as other people.
ChibiPockystick 2 years ago
i think zack was better in japanese also but i have the english ver te sounds funny in japanese abd i like that
ShiroKreuz 2 years ago
@Psychicqueen He was excellent, a fine example that American voice acting can sometimes outdo the Japanese. Most of the time I prefer JP over NA for voices, but DoC is an exception. Tales of Vesperia is another example.
AlbeINox 1 year ago
It's too bad they didn't give us the option of choosing between Japanese or English voices. Not that I hate the English voices, I just prefer Japanese.
Does anyone know of any patches or undubs made? I'd even settle for watching the game online with subtitles.
FotoPhreak12 3 years ago
I've seen the high-detail cut-scenes in Japanese, but I couldn't tell you the title word for word right now. o_o
Psychicqueen 3 years ago
International version is put on the market in Japan on September 4.
The difficulty of Japanese version is high because it has narrow view.
Milli fine-tuning cannot be adjusted.
if scope is removed, taking target is not smoothly.
US version is better.
I reserved International version^^
インターナショナル版が9月4日に日本で発売されます。
視野が狭いので日本語版の難易度は高いですね。
スコープを外せば、ミリ単位の微調整が滑らかにターゲットされないので、操作性が悪く、USバージョンの方がよいです。
私は予約注文しました^^
AquaBlueJonathan 3 years ago
I upladed International version^^
AquaBlueJonathan 3 years ago
Eh I like the Japanese version for the 1st person shooter cuz hey you can actually aim better + there's a online version.
INEEDANIME 3 years ago
I wish I could try the Japanese because mine is US version
centraluv14 3 years ago
lol America's like a child that needs constantly entertained if you know what i mean because thats y they made it better, also the Japanese like strategy Americans like action thats the way it goes
accountrater33 3 years ago 2
Or...the game just really sucked and needed these improvements.
andytoz 3 years ago
Too bad that that you need a Japanese ps2 to play Japanese games.
IGPXer 3 years ago
IGPXer, there are quite a few ways to go about it to unlock region protections and read backups for example, but those ways involve some risks to the console and you can usually expect your warranty to be compromised. I didn't attempt anything on mine, though I admit the prospect is very tempting xD
darthiris 3 years ago
This game was made for they who liked Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children!
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
WHAT?!?! it has multiplayer!?!?!
who can the other player play as then???
Shelkentine 4 years ago
It's online multiplayer combat...
ExplodingRabbits 3 years ago
I'm not sure but I think the the online mode was removed from the western version of DoC and replaced with unlockable events. But in the DoC Online (Japanese version) you played as a Deepground soldier fighting your way up in hierarchy to become a Tsviet or something...
darthiris 3 years ago
Or not, I'm not sure x)
darthiris 3 years ago
umm... just my opinion but i think it's cait sith who's the other player... to darthiris
centraluv14 3 years ago
centraluv14, I was talking about the Online Mode (in the Japanese Version of the game only) in which we play as a DG/Tsviet woman. Cait Sith is the other playable character in Single Player Mode (which is the only Mode that made it to US/PAL versions).
darthiris 3 years ago
Ah yeah, I'm sure now because I've played the game already (PAL version). But you can look here on YouTube for the Dirge of Cerberus Online FMV's. There's about 12 brief cutscenes - I've seen them already and they show us the playable character and a lot of background story to the Tsviets that unfortunately didn't make it to the US/PAL versions of the game.
darthiris 3 years ago
sorry if i spammed you (not sure if it's me or you because i just refreshed the page).. but ok!
centraluv14 3 years ago
Japanese version has multi-player. >:[
DanLeepwns 4 years ago
My biggest problem is that the US version did not have the online gameplay... So basically, my PS2's ethernet was only utilized for RE:Outbreak.
TalioAngelus 4 years ago
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I had one major problem, wasn't enough of the other characters, this game needed at least 150% more Cloud
Gerfologist 4 years ago
Advent Children had 300% more cloud.
dude42493 4 years ago 2
advent children had 3000% more cloud ^^
xsedgemanx 4 years ago 2
Zururu Zururu....
LondonGuysVids 4 years ago 2
Well the game is about vincent
spyder180 4 years ago 2
I completed the Euro version. It was a great game!
CleverDjembe 4 years ago
Hmm...Yuffie's voice in jap is better.
spygirly 4 years ago
'more palitable for american audiences'
What he really means:
Easier for crap gamers.
:P
kkarbo 4 years ago
Aww, that's funny... :P
BunnyDoll13 4 years ago
I like Vincents english voice, he sounds cool.
BlackYoshi2 4 years ago
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its gay cause theres no online mode in american version lol
petree 4 years ago
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the game sucks. beat it the day i got it then beat it on ex hard next day it was to easy the control was not to bad but this was failure
ProgramMemories 4 years ago
so why didn't you take the auto aim off?
Phobboi 3 years ago
japanese version iz better no doubt about it!
zabuza201 4 years ago
I HAVE U.S VERSION!! in Europe exists only U.S version!!
ADLCHRIS3 4 years ago
Lol, I beat the US version. Never played the Japanese version. It seems more realistic in the Japanese version, but the US version is better for game play.
Deidara8005 4 years ago
yeah but nobody plays a final fantasy or any other counter-parts for realism :3 the japanese version sounds kinda bad
Gerfologist 4 years ago
One thing that I can say, everything sound so cheap when I hear those English voices. That goes for animes too. Its best original unless the story is placed in US.
quintet95 4 years ago
The limit breaker for the japanese one is better to me.
jinathan 4 years ago
Wait...if it's more realistic...how come you can't shoot when you jump? Also, Vincent isn't that fast, except for in the cutscenes. Hell, I probably run faster..... Why are your complaints "it's MORE fun in the American version" & "it's more realistic in the Japanese version" (which, as I just explained, isn't the case)? I'm not seeing any sense in your arguments here....
TheTrueTardzilla 4 years ago 3
Wrong. There were no Jenova cells actually used on Vincent or else he would have manifested Geostigma in Advent Children. Well, now that that otakunote is done, I'm glad you brought this up. I was getting sort of tired about all the complaints about the "sucky American version getting rid of the online mode." Not that I PERSONALLY care, but it's always good to have something in store to make the annoying whining around me stop.
TheTrueTardzilla 4 years ago
thats cuz japs are smart
butnut2 4 years ago
i liked the game... it had a good story like good graphics and best of all the whole group from final fantasy VII
the only thing i didnt like is sometimes i forget that its final fantasy
granolajunkie 5 years ago
I love how they mention the double jump's usefulness, yet at the same moment you can't even reach that item! XD
Ragnarok1986x 5 years ago
The only reason you people like it better is that its easy to play and its more fun to beat the game. The japanese version is more realistic.
"1.2 times faster walking and running speed."
1.2 TIMES. WOW, big deal none of you can even run or jump at that speed.
"1st person aim changed to 3rd person."
Again... Can you do that in real life?
"Faster firing speed."
Like I've said again japanese people are more realistic in gaming
The reason its better its for lazy ass players.
InoBecka 5 years ago
ok ok we get it, the japanese version is both emotionally and physically fulfilling in every way, but ask yourself one question, why would a fantasy game be made realistic, maybe you dont understand the concept of final FANTASY, as in a fantasy game, not a realistic world war 2 shooter like brothers in arms, this game was made not to be realistic, thats why you can turn into a warewolf when he reaches his limit break.
archonFlux 5 years ago
I am not talking about the actual concept. Ok look in other stuff. Ok I am gonna sound really stupid but in the gaming Harry Potter it was pretty realistic. NOT THE MAGIC SPELLS OR THE ANIMALS but Harry himself because he could only jump a certain distance and run etc. it makes the player (some of us atleast) feel like were in the characters shoes. Its trying to be realistic to make the person playing feel like their in the game.
InoBecka 5 years ago
i understand what you mean but when you follow the story line of final fantasy 7,vincent was genetically altered with jenova genes, just like cloud was, and look at teh type of things cloud did in advent children, the guy defies gravity on numorous occasions. on the otherhand, harry pottter is a normal kid aside from the magic, but hes still bound by gravity.
archonFlux 5 years ago
No, I probably can't run that fast. I also can't jump my own height from a standing position, which he can do in the Japanese version. I can't aim in third person, but I can't look over my own shoulder to aim in pseudo-first-person either, as you do in the Japanese version. And how is faster firing unrealistic? Some guns fire faster than others. And Japanese people prefer more realistic games? What, like the even *more* arcadey Devil May Cry series?
LuciferG61 4 years ago
Hey! This game was made for they who liked Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children!
Sizzar 5 years ago
Dude. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. How the flying fuck is there any difference at all? They're both the goddamn same, you elitist bastards. e_e
harmonysong 5 years ago
i liked the idea when they made the camera on shoulder view, now that usa had chaged it to area view. i have to brwose around, when i could've just turned around.
wwwdots 5 years ago
Well, all you illiterate bastards can have your half-assed dubbing, but I very much liked the original voices tyvm. They couldn't just put in the original voices with subs, they had to put in out of sync denotes to what was decent acting. Cid sounds like he stepped out of a trailer, Cloud sounds like he stepped out of middle-school, Yuffie sounds like she stepped on shit. These dubbing bastards are gonna pay, damnit!
Rikoshay 5 years ago
I like Cid's US voice-over haha.
djHaQ 5 years ago
you only think it sounds like shit cause its your second language and you are comparing it to your first which you are more used to. its not better acting or worse acting, its jsut different types of acting, different languages havedifferent ways of expression.
archonFlux 5 years ago 2
the game sucked anyway.
PCAJZA70 5 years ago
Blah blah blah! The US version is better!!! XD
blackrose13531 5 years ago
Couldn't say it better myself. XD
koolgool 5 years ago
YAY! ^_^
blackrose13531 5 years ago
The dude sounds like fucking Batman. I was so excited when I saw all the press releases saying that Gackt was going to play the voice of Vincent in an upcoming FF7 game. I think I'm not the only one that feels cheated by not having even the option of being able to play the game with the original voicing cast... Than... *than* Gaming TV stouts about how the American version has been dumbed down for the less capable, American audience. Yeah, like that hasn't been done before.. owell.
lazerflesh 5 years ago
I kinda wished they left the limit gauge feature in, it felt kinda cheap using an item to trigger Vincent's limit break.
humilisadvena 5 years ago
English >>> Japanese
FranzKapranos 5 years ago
Opinion noted. Say. How about while we're at it bring the Monna Lisa over here and make her look more American. We'll put a farmers hat on her with a wal-mart shirt on. And we can even have her look all dirty. Maybe put a few cheeseburger wrappers around her.
lazerflesh 5 years ago
LMAO!! that's funny!!! i mean after all... the mona lisa WAS a MAN!!! LOL *sigh* not so pretty anymore, eh? XD
SeekingOutTomorrow 5 years ago
Well yeah, but I mean c'mon. This was Gackt. How many people who would have intent on buying this game know who Gackt is ? Gackt is awesome, and his voice is legendary.
lazerflesh 5 years ago
AGREED!!! :highfives:
SailorBonkers 4 years ago
English is better because you understand it better. All you crazy, mother f*cking critics.
lancecembrano 5 years ago
Japan Loves The U.S.A. :)
FoxHoundX 5 years ago
Sounds like the american kagome voice plays yuffie
shakraka95 5 years ago
the jap voice is much much better i've heard the english voice bah pretty crap but eh what u gonna do lol they've finalized it
joshman3 5 years ago
Wow, now this helps alot. I'm definitely going to buy the game now!!
GoggleHeadGurl 5 years ago
Gah! I hate Vincent's english voice!! The Japanese one is SO MUCH BETTER! Not to mention it's become, like, my most favorite voice ever. ^_^ <3 so gorgeous. Seeing what they've changed from the Japanese version, I'm glad I have the english one. ^_^
Saerenna 5 years ago
True.
GoggleHeadGurl 5 years ago
xD good point...
finalfantasyxfan 5 years ago
y'know that always makes me wonder, how when we rag on english voice actors for being annoying, do the peeps in japan make fun of their voice actors? O.o hmmmm....
HotPocketEXE 5 years ago
ok ok sure that the us version is better but, i still think the voice overall should be played in japanese
with subtitles of course
cruisis 5 years ago
IGN gave it a 7/10 rating..pretty decent, but hey its something never done before- Shooter RPG from a nation that 99% of the populace doesnt place shooters(Japan)
Ensignzeroshin 5 years ago
must kill yuffie voice actor (after i kill aerith's voice actor in kh 2) other than that hope cloud has some parts in it besides that one... oh well GOOOO VINCIENT!!!
hrabbit 5 years ago
Umm judging by the voice is the exact voice that Zabuza Momochi has in the U.S. Naruto anime.
BlueJuan85 5 years ago
XD HOLY CRAP! I've never actually heard the comparison between the Japanese Version of Vincent voice and the English. But wow. O.o
Vincent's voice is hot in Japanese.
I've never realized how raspy and gruff he sounds in english.
Like he's been smoking too much or something. xDDD
O.o But I still like both versions of his voice.
<3
Liplockmister2002 5 years ago
Steve Blum has the hottest voice.
Yukie89 5 years ago
mmm...smexyyyy
Ensignzeroshin 5 years ago
Agreed. <3
Whip0fAlchemy 4 years ago
I also prefer the Japanese, but as long as Vincent has a main role in something, I don't really care.
I always did think it was a shame that he was 100% optional in the original FFVII.
BloodWaker 5 years ago
The english one sounds the same as Auron, well reasonably Vincent and Auron are both done by the guy who did Spikes voice in Cowboy Bebop..
Anyways, I think the reason they were optional was because they werent much space in the disks to accomodate anymore..
But Doc is Vincent And Yuffie's game...well partially Yuffie's.. so its a sort of a tribute to them being optional
Ensignzeroshin 5 years ago
Steve Blum does Vincents voice Matt Mckenzie does Aurons there not the same person. Steve Blum Does Spike from Cowboy Bebop.
towa7 5 years ago
i prefer japanese version T_T
Vincent's voice is so sexy, and Yuffie's is so cool!
SIGH T_T
NenyaHigurashi 5 years ago
I agree that Vincents voice is smexy in the japanese version.. but hell, what are you gonna do?
and yeah, Yuffie is the hawtness!!
Ensignzeroshin 5 years ago