Satan has already "fallen" and there will be a Great Delusion but not the way you think. There is some truth in your video but I do not believe it will happen as you describe. I also believe that I will be in Heaven due to the Rapture when the Antichrist is revealed. Maranatha!
Well, the first problem I have is the statement that Satan will be "coming like Jesus!" Jesus didn't say "Satan is coming", He said He saw Satan fall. Then the question is asked "when will Jesus fall?" Well, Jesus said He had already fallen. Then we get a lot of other statements about falling, but with an excessive amount of eisegesis. Really, this is very much stretching things to the limit to come to rather unlikely conclusions.
@TheDoctor394 God bless you for looking so deep into the video. I am saying there are two comings, one will be Jesus, the other will be Satan. I am saying there will be two Elijah's a real one and a false one (not necessarily named Elijah). I am saying there are two Armageddons, a real one and one that people will think is Armageddon (not necessarily taking place at Armageddon). There are many cases of 'two's in regard to the last day. We need to have timing down--who comes first.
@boltingpuppies Yes, I see what you're saying. And, with respect, I think it's a huge stretch to come to such conclusions based on the passages you've shown.
@TheDoctor394 I understand. And thank you for speaking out, it's good that you do so and that others look for these things on their own. One of my main concerns is for believers to realize that while we are all looking for Elijah the prophet to come, one like Elijah is also expected. We sometimes hear about a false prophet coming with the anti-christ but I don't remember ever hearning that this false prophet does the same miracles the real Elijah did. This is vital information. Be blessed.
@boltingpuppies You are absolutely spot on my friend, Satan can only copy God, period end of discussion and for the great delusion to come about and cause many to follow the false one this is no stretch at all. As I also believe the "rapture" to be yet another part of the delusion. THERE IS NO RAPTURE!! May Yahweh bless and protect you and yours brother/sister in Yahushua.
So if I understand correctly, this is saying that Jesus' comment about Satan falling like lightning is a warning of a deceitful second coming? Hmmm... I'm all for being aware of false miracles, etc, but I think that's stretching things a bit. Most likely, Jesus' comment was just a manner of speech, saying that Satan received a heavy defeat after the work the disciples had done. I really don't think it's meant to be taken as a warning of Satan literally coming down like lightning.
@TheDoctor394 I don't think the author is saying ANYTHING, but pointing out similarities in Scripture, and that a great delusion is coming. All true.
So many people don't think end time knowledge matters. I think the point is, it matters. Realize that Elijah is expected to come, but at the same time the False Prophet will do things Elijah did, and so on. We must know the real from the false.
Great verses to be aware of & great point made - delusion is coming. Understanding matters.
@TheDoctor394 That's great, you're in a good position. A LOT of my friends don't think end time knowledge matters at all because they'll be raptured before anything happens. They're not even reading these verses. I asked a friend (prompted by viewing this) who is going to call down fire from heaven - he had no clue. This vid is especially good for people who don't know it matters but learn some valuable verses in spite of themselves.
If nothing else, don't you find the similarities interesting?
Every time I watch one of your videos the word "wow" pups out of my mouth.
Many tried to talk bout this warning but none managed to put it in such a way, dare I say "elegant way" this might help open the eyes of those who can not see the obvious
@boltingpuppies Well, now we're getting somwere. In Rev,13.we read that the beast arises from the ocean. It also states that the wound is healed. Then the answer to how he will return for "a second comming" is pretty much right there. He will rise from the ocean and not by a lightening apearence in the clouds. It aslo says that the fasle profet will rise from the ground. These so called resurrection events must therefor come to pass some time after satan is trown down to earth.
@nashville500 Since satan is thrown down to earth, and have no dominions left in heaven, it would only seem logic that any kind of counterfit resurrection(second comming) will happen here on earth like Rev,13 states. This be The Great Delusion. What kind of wonder,miracles, and false signs they perform is something for the imagination.
@nashville500 - I have read your discourse with great interest! :) Allow me to say: Going back to the delusion passage in 2 Thess 2 we see it concerns believing "what is false" v.11 pointing back to *false* wonderS v.9. Plural. The verse about the attempted misleading of the elect (Matt 24:24) says it's about *false* prophets showing great signS and wonderS. Cf.Rev 13:13 where the *false* prophet performs great signS including fire from heaven and the speaking image v.14f.
"Men's hearts failing them for fear and***for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: ****for the powers of heaven shall be shaken."
@boltingpuppies - Yes, Luke 21:26 says a lot! It's sandwiched between the post-trib cosmic signs in v.25 and the glorious coming of Christ in v.27. It seems to me a good rendering of v.26 from the Greek is captured by the Amplified Bible:
Men swooning away or expiring with fear and dread and apprehension and expectation of the things that are coming on the world; for the [very] powers of the heavens will be shaken and caused to totter...
If I'm still alive then, I'll be lifting up my head! :D
Amen. Another way to translate this verse, if one looks at each word in Greek, could be:
"Men breathing out life, expiring from terror AND the expectation of the enemy coming upon and attacking the world BECAUSE the powers consisting of armies-forces-hosts OF THE heavens where God and other heavenly beings dwell, will be overthrown, shaken down and cast down from their state."
Look at the first few words...consider what men who encounter heavenly beings in scripture usually do.
@arovir I agree with you. :-) Th great delusion is like a package, containing differnt ithems. False preaching, miracles signs and wonders. But the video portrayed a detail that the manifistation of the antichrist would be something like the second comming of christ, in the clouds with lightening. It was this detail I rejected. Bringing fire down from heaven could be preformed by a fallen angel holding a barrel of petrol somewhere at cloudlevel, lighting fire to it. Talk about false sign. ;-)
@nashville500 ;-) It seems to me the false prophet calls fire down from heaven to deceive people into listening to him. The people certainly listened to Elijah when he called down fire from heaven. I suppose it will be like the magicians of Egypt counterfeiting several of the God-given signs/plagues Moses performed. It'll be black magic perfected! Many Christians today run after signs (and not from sins!). Many will be deluded and think he must be the promised Elijah! Wow!! Fire from heaven!!!
@nashville500 - Just to clarify! What I was trying to convey in my last comment was that the delusion we read of that God sends on those who refuse to believe the truth is not one single event, but a series of great counterfeit signs and false wonders performed by the false prophet (the 2nd beast). One of these false wonders will be the resuscitation of the 1st beast who received the mortal wound. This event coincides time-wise with Satan being confined to earth. Connection!
@Rileyportbay - Someone spammed your comment! Maybe the false prophet himself? ;)
I'm sure he will be a religious man. According to Rev 13 he will be appealing since he appears somewhat lamb-like. But he speaks like a dragon, who is identified in the book as Satan himself. He will speak lies eloquently. Because of his Satanic ability to perform startling miracles he will be elevated and will control the masses by hypnotizing deception. He will try to kill all those who do not worship the beast.
It seems like you are trying to fill in the gap of what the great delusion will be like.
Using different scripture ref. In Luke 10:18 Jesus is saying he SAW satan fall from heaven like lightning. He might as well be talking about the originale fall of satan before mankind. Just because satan is thrown down to earth by Michael does'nt meen it will be visible. The reason he gets away with his works is because he's able to do them in the spiritual realm. Why would he give himself away. cont
@nashville500 Showing the hole world who he is. He's strategy has allways been to use people. The events in Rev,12 must be in a spiritual realm but thay have consekvenses for us in the fysical. Rev 12 is described with different metafores.
Remember. John was caught up to heaven in the spirit. He got to see the things that would happen in both the spiritual realm and the fysical. He could therefore describe them both. There lays the tricky part. Decerning wich is wich. The beast and the false profet vil manifest a lot of false signs and wonders for the people on earth to see. Simultanusly alot of things will be going on in the spiritual realm.
To suggest a false christlike return based on Dan,12... well...it's a theory.
The spiritual, angelic realm has been invisible to us so far. Where in scripture or from what point in time will it be visible to us? Theres no biblical foundation to claim that "the war i heaven", when Michael throws out satan and his angels too earth, will be a visible event. According to the book of Job, satan comes down to earth frequently, yet i have never seen him. Let's not get carried away with speculations.
After Michael ascends into Heaven, and the war take place, there will no longer be a place for the fallen angels 'in' Heaven--they will no longer be allowed to go back and forth. Yes, many of them are invisible to us right now, although we know from scripture that they have been visible and lived among us as in Genesis 6, and also are viewed at various times such as with Abraham, Lot, Sampson's parents, Jacob, Mary, Zacharias, etc. We also entertain angels unaware. >>>
@boltingpuppies "The sons of God" in Gen.6 might as well be talking about men asopose to angels, depending on wich old testament translation you read from. The greek or the hebrew. A great number scholars despute the notion that the sons of god is talking about angels who lived with humans. Thus makes it useless as a reference. Hebrews,1:5 In order for satan to acomplish his plan he will be, like God did, needing humans( The beast, false profet) who are visible to us. cont
@boltingpuppies The bible talks about "The Lords angel". It talks about The angel Gabriel. In the NT we see angels apear when Jesus is born. When he is tempted. Right before crusifiction. In Acts, when Paul and Silvanus were in jail. etc.
All of these apearances is by the instructions of the Lord. The greek word Angelos means messenger wich can apply to both humans and supernatural beeings. ( Heb. 13:2, Rev 2) In comparens to your previous videos , this one is to speculating and theoretical.
2)We are told specifically that they are thrown out of Heaven and Satan is specifically cast down to the earth itself. Remember, this delusion is so great that "even the very elect will be deceived if possible"...which means> If a believer does not love the truth about Yeshua's return, doesn't believe the anti-christ comes first, they will believe a particular delusion...a delusion that will cause them to believe 'the lie'. What type of delusion would be necessary for >
3) believers to believe a Messiah has come? This delusion comes soon after or around the time that Michael ascends because according to Daniel 12 it is Michael's ascension that results in "a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time". A false Messiah comes at that time as well. We also know Michael and Satan fought over the body of Moses. We know one of the horns will have a fatal wound,...we know Satan is cast to the earth...we know...
@boltingpuppies the antichrist will come in to this world in the same manner as Christ did. Tru a human birth. He will be raised as a person who will live among us, til the day he makes the fatal choise of submitting his will to satan. The notion that antichrist will apear in the clouds with lightening (A counterfit christlike second comming) as reference from 2 Tess 2 a false sign does not work for me. In Rev.ch12ch13, John sees both realms at the same time. Does'nt mean that we will
@nashville500 Both Jesus(Matt15) and Paul(2Tess2) agrees on that it is the antichrist, the beast, in the form of a human who works the miracles thru the power of satan. Not satan himself. The idea that satan will apear in the clouds with lightening because his been ejected from heaven by Michael is as far fedged as the secret rapture theory . I think we post-tribbers need to cool down a bit when it comes to great delusional conspiratory ideas.
@nashville500 To clarify then, I agree that the false prophet is not Satan, but is his prophet. The same goes for the anti-christ who is a man...but this mans resurrected body will most likely be inhabited by Satan. We see the anti-christ described in Isaiah as both man and Satan. However, the beast and false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire before the 1000 years. Satan is thrown into the lake of fire after the 1000 years and the short season. Blessings.
@nashville500 I am not in disagreement that the anti-christ will be born a human man and live among us--I agree with this VERY much...that's not the point I am sharing. Jesus was a human born among us too...and He will return from heaven. The anti-christ will receive a fatal wound...meaning he will die. The anti-christ will also be raised to life---how this will happen, and how it is heralded will be *very supernatural.
@LauderdaleBaptist I have use various jingles to reach different people. My music on 'Is God a Man?' is very different from this and the music on 'Is Yeshua YHVH Adonay' is very different from that tune. They are various for various reasons. I'm glad you noticed and thanks for watching.
@yastunt Thank you for the encouragement. I hope people especially see that there will be an Elijah-LIKE prophet (the false prophet)---and who are both Jew and Gentile believers expecting to come? Elijah the prophet, as promised in Malachi 4. Indeed he will come but so will a false Elijah-LIKE false prophet who does signs and wonders. We must know our God to know the difference. I pray to escape the time of their prophesying (last 42 months).
@tigerlamb007 Thanks sis. Everyone, Jew and Gentile, who reads the words of YHVH, is looking for Elijah the prophet. He will come...but so will another... Those who seek signs and wonders as evidence and ignore the clear words of YHVH/Yeshua are in danger of deception. Thank you for your encouragement. Yah bless.
That's why I thought the topic was so well present, bolting:). The Jews might fall for the false prophet, because they are looking for Elijah and Messiah... and the Xtians not watching carefully may also fall for the FP and A/C because they are looking for the 2 Witnesses to precede Messiah (and may mistake the FP for Elijah as you so well pointed out). Yah's Word is SO amazing and He never leads us astray. Good reason to seek Him diligently. Yah bless u too:).
@Jimvesterstallone I'm glad you enjoyed it, lol :) I especially hope people realize that both Jew and Gentile alike are expecting Elijah the prophet as promised in Malachi 4. He will come...but so will a FALSE Elijah-LIKE prophet who does signs and wonders like the real Elijah did in 1Kings. Those looking for signs and wonders to validate whether someone IS or IS NOT from God are prime prey for Satan. We all need to read Deuteronomy 13! Blessings in our Yeshua!
@Jimvesterstallone I'm glad you enjoyed it, lol :) I especially hope people realize that both Jew and Gentile alike are expecting Elijah the prophet as promised in Malachi 4. He will come...but so will a FALSE Elijah-LIKE prophet who does signs and wonders like the real Elijah did in 1Kings. Those looking for signs and wonders to validate whether someone IS or IS NOT from God are prime prey for Satan. We all need to read Deuteronomy 13! Blessings in our Yeshua!
AMEN!!! God's Word is TRUTH and we all MUST trust in HIM "JESUS"! Read God's Holy Word, put on the whole Armor Of God and Pray without ceasing! Richard
@shakleeguy2007 Amen Richard! This is the only way, to trust and obey! Jesus is our resurrection and our life. We must not forsake Him/His words. We need to read what He said and then believe Him as a little child would believe Him. He loves us and doesn't want us to perish. He is telling us everything ahead of time so that we may be saved and with Him forever. Blessings to your in the Savior of our Souls!
It's all important...every word Jesus said, every word the Prophets said, every word in the Bible. We must stop listening to men...highly revered men in times past, popular preachers of today, name your influence... Read the Bible! It's a matter of Life or death.
@Lachance8 Thanks Liz :) I was tweeking it just a bit, and you caught me ;) I hope this helps some who are not hearing the truth or reading it for themselves. Maybe this will peak their interest to dig in for themselves. Many Jew & Gentile believers, who are expecting the promised prophet Elijah of Malachi 4, will believe the FALSE Elijah-LIKE prophet (also promised to come) because he is doing signs & wonders---they are not reading the words of YHVH as written in Deuteronomy 13. Blessings2U
@FoundthePearl1 Thanks for watching and for your encouragement. I blesses me when we as brothers and sisters agree in His word and look forward to His coming at His appointed time. Even so, come Lord Jesus!
Yes The Great Delusion is upon us. Thank you for this Blessed video.
childofyahvh 8 months ago
@ChildofYHWHs Amen, he really does.
boltingpuppies 9 months ago
Satan has already "fallen" and there will be a Great Delusion but not the way you think. There is some truth in your video but I do not believe it will happen as you describe. I also believe that I will be in Heaven due to the Rapture when the Antichrist is revealed. Maranatha!
ljackso 1 year ago
I really like this video, I feel that it causes the viewer to be more alert to the gradual manifestation of Gods end time prophesied events. Bravo!
Victorythruattrition 1 year ago
Well, the first problem I have is the statement that Satan will be "coming like Jesus!" Jesus didn't say "Satan is coming", He said He saw Satan fall. Then the question is asked "when will Jesus fall?" Well, Jesus said He had already fallen. Then we get a lot of other statements about falling, but with an excessive amount of eisegesis. Really, this is very much stretching things to the limit to come to rather unlikely conclusions.
TheDoctor394 1 year ago
@TheDoctor394 God bless you for looking so deep into the video. I am saying there are two comings, one will be Jesus, the other will be Satan. I am saying there will be two Elijah's a real one and a false one (not necessarily named Elijah). I am saying there are two Armageddons, a real one and one that people will think is Armageddon (not necessarily taking place at Armageddon). There are many cases of 'two's in regard to the last day. We need to have timing down--who comes first.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago 2
@boltingpuppies Yes, I see what you're saying. And, with respect, I think it's a huge stretch to come to such conclusions based on the passages you've shown.
TheDoctor394 1 year ago
@TheDoctor394 I understand. And thank you for speaking out, it's good that you do so and that others look for these things on their own. One of my main concerns is for believers to realize that while we are all looking for Elijah the prophet to come, one like Elijah is also expected. We sometimes hear about a false prophet coming with the anti-christ but I don't remember ever hearning that this false prophet does the same miracles the real Elijah did. This is vital information. Be blessed.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@boltingpuppies You are absolutely spot on my friend, Satan can only copy God, period end of discussion and for the great delusion to come about and cause many to follow the false one this is no stretch at all. As I also believe the "rapture" to be yet another part of the delusion. THERE IS NO RAPTURE!! May Yahweh bless and protect you and yours brother/sister in Yahushua.
MrRevelationtv 8 months ago
Yeah, Yeshua is YHWH or Yahuwah or Yehovah, or YHWH or YHVW. The existent ONE.
paulgem123 1 year ago
@paulgem123 Amen!
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
So if I understand correctly, this is saying that Jesus' comment about Satan falling like lightning is a warning of a deceitful second coming? Hmmm... I'm all for being aware of false miracles, etc, but I think that's stretching things a bit. Most likely, Jesus' comment was just a manner of speech, saying that Satan received a heavy defeat after the work the disciples had done. I really don't think it's meant to be taken as a warning of Satan literally coming down like lightning.
TheDoctor394 1 year ago
@TheDoctor394 Not a deceitful 'second' coming of 'Jesus'.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@TheDoctor394 I don't think the author is saying ANYTHING, but pointing out similarities in Scripture, and that a great delusion is coming. All true.
So many people don't think end time knowledge matters. I think the point is, it matters. Realize that Elijah is expected to come, but at the same time the False Prophet will do things Elijah did, and so on. We must know the real from the false.
Great verses to be aware of & great point made - delusion is coming. Understanding matters.
Jimvesterstallone 1 year ago 2
@Jimvesterstallone Oh, I believe end times matter. No problems there. But... you say the author isn't saying anything. Then why post this?
TheDoctor394 1 year ago
@TheDoctor394 That's great, you're in a good position. A LOT of my friends don't think end time knowledge matters at all because they'll be raptured before anything happens. They're not even reading these verses. I asked a friend (prompted by viewing this) who is going to call down fire from heaven - he had no clue. This vid is especially good for people who don't know it matters but learn some valuable verses in spite of themselves.
If nothing else, don't you find the similarities interesting?
Jimvesterstallone 1 year ago
@Jimvesterstallone: Amen and Maranatha!
ljackso 1 year ago
Every time I watch one of your videos the word "wow" pups out of my mouth.
Many tried to talk bout this warning but none managed to put it in such a way, dare I say "elegant way" this might help open the eyes of those who can not see the obvious
God bless
salvalcore 1 year ago
Thank you very much for bearing over with my nitpicking attention to details and for flooding your site with comments. God bless you, mam.
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500 :) I do believe that a free flow discussions of ideas helps bring us into a better understanding of HIs truth. As the scripture says:
Proverbs 27:17
"Iron sharpens iron, So one man sharpens another."
Yeshua bless us in our studies as we look for Him alone.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@boltingpuppies Well, now we're getting somwere. In Rev,13.we read that the beast arises from the ocean. It also states that the wound is healed. Then the answer to how he will return for "a second comming" is pretty much right there. He will rise from the ocean and not by a lightening apearence in the clouds. It aslo says that the fasle profet will rise from the ground. These so called resurrection events must therefor come to pass some time after satan is trown down to earth.
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500 Since satan is thrown down to earth, and have no dominions left in heaven, it would only seem logic that any kind of counterfit resurrection(second comming) will happen here on earth like Rev,13 states. This be The Great Delusion. What kind of wonder,miracles, and false signs they perform is something for the imagination.
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500 - I have read your discourse with great interest! :) Allow me to say: Going back to the delusion passage in 2 Thess 2 we see it concerns believing "what is false" v.11 pointing back to *false* wonderS v.9. Plural. The verse about the attempted misleading of the elect (Matt 24:24) says it's about *false* prophets showing great signS and wonderS. Cf.Rev 13:13 where the *false* prophet performs great signS including fire from heaven and the speaking image v.14f.
Food for thought? :)
arovir 1 year ago
@arovir Thank you for the verses. Another one of great interest...especially in the Greek is the following verse from Jesus:
Luke 21:26
"Men's hearts failing them for fear and***for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: ****for the powers of heaven shall be shaken."
Blessings in our Yeshua.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@boltingpuppies - Yes, Luke 21:26 says a lot! It's sandwiched between the post-trib cosmic signs in v.25 and the glorious coming of Christ in v.27. It seems to me a good rendering of v.26 from the Greek is captured by the Amplified Bible:
Men swooning away or expiring with fear and dread and apprehension and expectation of the things that are coming on the world; for the [very] powers of the heavens will be shaken and caused to totter...
If I'm still alive then, I'll be lifting up my head! :D
arovir 1 year ago
@arovir
Amen. Another way to translate this verse, if one looks at each word in Greek, could be:
"Men breathing out life, expiring from terror AND the expectation of the enemy coming upon and attacking the world BECAUSE the powers consisting of armies-forces-hosts OF THE heavens where God and other heavenly beings dwell, will be overthrown, shaken down and cast down from their state."
Look at the first few words...consider what men who encounter heavenly beings in scripture usually do.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@arovir I agree with you. :-) Th great delusion is like a package, containing differnt ithems. False preaching, miracles signs and wonders. But the video portrayed a detail that the manifistation of the antichrist would be something like the second comming of christ, in the clouds with lightening. It was this detail I rejected. Bringing fire down from heaven could be preformed by a fallen angel holding a barrel of petrol somewhere at cloudlevel, lighting fire to it. Talk about false sign. ;-)
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500 ;-) It seems to me the false prophet calls fire down from heaven to deceive people into listening to him. The people certainly listened to Elijah when he called down fire from heaven. I suppose it will be like the magicians of Egypt counterfeiting several of the God-given signs/plagues Moses performed. It'll be black magic perfected! Many Christians today run after signs (and not from sins!). Many will be deluded and think he must be the promised Elijah! Wow!! Fire from heaven!!!
arovir 1 year ago
@arovir Exactly. Egypt's magicians could do the very same signs and wonders that Moses and Aaron performed..up to a point.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@nashville500 To clarify, the arrival of the false christ will appear to be a 'first coming', not a 'second coming'.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@nashville500 - Just to clarify! What I was trying to convey in my last comment was that the delusion we read of that God sends on those who refuse to believe the truth is not one single event, but a series of great counterfeit signs and false wonders performed by the false prophet (the 2nd beast). One of these false wonders will be the resuscitation of the 1st beast who received the mortal wound. This event coincides time-wise with Satan being confined to earth. Connection!
Gud velsigne deg!
arovir 1 year ago
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Rileyportbay 1 year ago
@arovir Will the false prophet be a religious man that many will look up to and admire?
Rileyportbay 1 year ago
@Rileyportbay - Someone spammed your comment! Maybe the false prophet himself? ;)
I'm sure he will be a religious man. According to Rev 13 he will be appealing since he appears somewhat lamb-like. But he speaks like a dragon, who is identified in the book as Satan himself. He will speak lies eloquently. Because of his Satanic ability to perform startling miracles he will be elevated and will control the masses by hypnotizing deception. He will try to kill all those who do not worship the beast.
arovir 1 year ago
@arovir I see lol. Thank you for answering my question ( :
Rileyportbay 1 year ago
@arovir
Exactly!
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
It seems like you are trying to fill in the gap of what the great delusion will be like.
Using different scripture ref. In Luke 10:18 Jesus is saying he SAW satan fall from heaven like lightning. He might as well be talking about the originale fall of satan before mankind. Just because satan is thrown down to earth by Michael does'nt meen it will be visible. The reason he gets away with his works is because he's able to do them in the spiritual realm. Why would he give himself away. cont
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500 Showing the hole world who he is. He's strategy has allways been to use people. The events in Rev,12 must be in a spiritual realm but thay have consekvenses for us in the fysical. Rev 12 is described with different metafores.
nashville500 1 year ago
Remember. John was caught up to heaven in the spirit. He got to see the things that would happen in both the spiritual realm and the fysical. He could therefore describe them both. There lays the tricky part. Decerning wich is wich. The beast and the false profet vil manifest a lot of false signs and wonders for the people on earth to see. Simultanusly alot of things will be going on in the spiritual realm.
To suggest a false christlike return based on Dan,12... well...it's a theory.
nashville500 1 year ago
The spiritual, angelic realm has been invisible to us so far. Where in scripture or from what point in time will it be visible to us? Theres no biblical foundation to claim that "the war i heaven", when Michael throws out satan and his angels too earth, will be a visible event. According to the book of Job, satan comes down to earth frequently, yet i have never seen him. Let's not get carried away with speculations.
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500
After Michael ascends into Heaven, and the war take place, there will no longer be a place for the fallen angels 'in' Heaven--they will no longer be allowed to go back and forth. Yes, many of them are invisible to us right now, although we know from scripture that they have been visible and lived among us as in Genesis 6, and also are viewed at various times such as with Abraham, Lot, Sampson's parents, Jacob, Mary, Zacharias, etc. We also entertain angels unaware. >>>
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@boltingpuppies "The sons of God" in Gen.6 might as well be talking about men asopose to angels, depending on wich old testament translation you read from. The greek or the hebrew. A great number scholars despute the notion that the sons of god is talking about angels who lived with humans. Thus makes it useless as a reference. Hebrews,1:5 In order for satan to acomplish his plan he will be, like God did, needing humans( The beast, false profet) who are visible to us. cont
nashville500 1 year ago
@boltingpuppies The bible talks about "The Lords angel". It talks about The angel Gabriel. In the NT we see angels apear when Jesus is born. When he is tempted. Right before crusifiction. In Acts, when Paul and Silvanus were in jail. etc.
All of these apearances is by the instructions of the Lord. The greek word Angelos means messenger wich can apply to both humans and supernatural beeings. ( Heb. 13:2, Rev 2) In comparens to your previous videos , this one is to speculating and theoretical.
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500
cont...
2)We are told specifically that they are thrown out of Heaven and Satan is specifically cast down to the earth itself. Remember, this delusion is so great that "even the very elect will be deceived if possible"...which means> If a believer does not love the truth about Yeshua's return, doesn't believe the anti-christ comes first, they will believe a particular delusion...a delusion that will cause them to believe 'the lie'. What type of delusion would be necessary for >
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@nashville500
3) believers to believe a Messiah has come? This delusion comes soon after or around the time that Michael ascends because according to Daniel 12 it is Michael's ascension that results in "a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time". A false Messiah comes at that time as well. We also know Michael and Satan fought over the body of Moses. We know one of the horns will have a fatal wound,...we know Satan is cast to the earth...we know...
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@boltingpuppies the antichrist will come in to this world in the same manner as Christ did. Tru a human birth. He will be raised as a person who will live among us, til the day he makes the fatal choise of submitting his will to satan. The notion that antichrist will apear in the clouds with lightening (A counterfit christlike second comming) as reference from 2 Tess 2 a false sign does not work for me. In Rev.ch12ch13, John sees both realms at the same time. Does'nt mean that we will
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500 Both Jesus(Matt15) and Paul(2Tess2) agrees on that it is the antichrist, the beast, in the form of a human who works the miracles thru the power of satan. Not satan himself. The idea that satan will apear in the clouds with lightening because his been ejected from heaven by Michael is as far fedged as the secret rapture theory . I think we post-tribbers need to cool down a bit when it comes to great delusional conspiratory ideas.
Blessings
nashville500 1 year ago
@nashville500 To clarify then, I agree that the false prophet is not Satan, but is his prophet. The same goes for the anti-christ who is a man...but this mans resurrected body will most likely be inhabited by Satan. We see the anti-christ described in Isaiah as both man and Satan. However, the beast and false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire before the 1000 years. Satan is thrown into the lake of fire after the 1000 years and the short season. Blessings.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@nashville500 I am not in disagreement that the anti-christ will be born a human man and live among us--I agree with this VERY much...that's not the point I am sharing. Jesus was a human born among us too...and He will return from heaven. The anti-christ will receive a fatal wound...meaning he will die. The anti-christ will also be raised to life---how this will happen, and how it is heralded will be *very supernatural.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@nashville500 I do respect your concern however. And I appreciate it.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
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arovir 1 year ago
strange jam
LauderdaleBaptist 1 year ago
@LauderdaleBaptist I have use various jingles to reach different people. My music on 'Is God a Man?' is very different from this and the music on 'Is Yeshua YHVH Adonay' is very different from that tune. They are various for various reasons. I'm glad you noticed and thanks for watching.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
Great video and I love the music...so much that I had to watch it again!...and again!
(I've got a funny feeling these words are not only mine... but they are very true!!!) :D
arovir 1 year ago
HalleluYAH Our Father.
I do know the false ones will never live by.
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Every word that came out of the mouth of YAHSHUA was God's.
So them that say the commandments are no longer are in a delusion already.
I pray they open their eyes to this lie..
Brother Phil.
Wisdomcalls1 1 year ago
@Wisdomcalls1 "...by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Amen! We must come as little children. You are blessing brother Phil.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
I'm sure the ufo phenomena will have some part to play in the final endtime delusion. .great video!
yastunt 1 year ago
@yastunt Thank you for the encouragement. I hope people especially see that there will be an Elijah-LIKE prophet (the false prophet)---and who are both Jew and Gentile believers expecting to come? Elijah the prophet, as promised in Malachi 4. Indeed he will come but so will a false Elijah-LIKE false prophet who does signs and wonders. We must know our God to know the difference. I pray to escape the time of their prophesying (last 42 months).
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
All I can say is, wow! Excellent video! :)
KECOG 1 year ago
@KECOG Thank you. Your words of encouragement are a real blessing.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
This was SO good!! An excellent follow up to your last video on the delusion!! Yah bless and keep you sister:).
tigerlamb007 1 year ago 4
@tigerlamb007 Thanks sis. Everyone, Jew and Gentile, who reads the words of YHVH, is looking for Elijah the prophet. He will come...but so will another... Those who seek signs and wonders as evidence and ignore the clear words of YHVH/Yeshua are in danger of deception. Thank you for your encouragement. Yah bless.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
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That's why I thought the topic was so well present, bolting:). The Jews might fall for the false prophet, because they are looking for Elijah and Messiah... and the Xtians not watching carefully may also fall for the FP and A/C because they are looking for the 2 Witnesses to precede Messiah (and may mistake the FP for Elijah as you so well pointed out). Yah's Word is SO amazing and He never leads us astray. Good reason to seek Him diligently. Yah bless u too:).
tigerlamb007 1 year ago
Great vid- thanks and keep it up! Blessings!
BelieversJourney 1 year ago
@BelieversJourney Thank you and blessings to you too! I appreciate your warm words of encouragement.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
This one really packs a punch!!
Satan's secret strategy is out in the open now!!!
Bravo, bolting!!!!
arovir 1 year ago 3
@arovir I agree! :)Liz
Lachance8 1 year ago
@arovir It has been out there since Yeshua revealed it to us but we don't always eat what He feeds us. I hope this helps all of us, His lambs.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
back 2u more skilled productions ....
when do u think this will happen?
sometimes I am anxious and I want it now.
blessings...
agfigueroaa 1 year ago
@GRANTEDREPENTANCE Amen sis :)
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
bolting, I was so pumped up by your vid, I went on and on and forgot to say...AWESOME JOB!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!! :)
Jimvesterstallone 1 year ago
@Jimvesterstallone I'm glad you enjoyed it, lol :) I especially hope people realize that both Jew and Gentile alike are expecting Elijah the prophet as promised in Malachi 4. He will come...but so will a FALSE Elijah-LIKE prophet who does signs and wonders like the real Elijah did in 1Kings. Those looking for signs and wonders to validate whether someone IS or IS NOT from God are prime prey for Satan. We all need to read Deuteronomy 13! Blessings in our Yeshua!
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
@Jimvesterstallone I'm glad you enjoyed it, lol :) I especially hope people realize that both Jew and Gentile alike are expecting Elijah the prophet as promised in Malachi 4. He will come...but so will a FALSE Elijah-LIKE prophet who does signs and wonders like the real Elijah did in 1Kings. Those looking for signs and wonders to validate whether someone IS or IS NOT from God are prime prey for Satan. We all need to read Deuteronomy 13! Blessings in our Yeshua!
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
AMEN!!! God's Word is TRUTH and we all MUST trust in HIM "JESUS"! Read God's Holy Word, put on the whole Armor Of God and Pray without ceasing! Richard
shakleeguy2007 1 year ago
@shakleeguy2007 Amen Richard! This is the only way, to trust and obey! Jesus is our resurrection and our life. We must not forsake Him/His words. We need to read what He said and then believe Him as a little child would believe Him. He loves us and doesn't want us to perish. He is telling us everything ahead of time so that we may be saved and with Him forever. Blessings to your in the Savior of our Souls!
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
It's all important...every word Jesus said, every word the Prophets said, every word in the Bible. We must stop listening to men...highly revered men in times past, popular preachers of today, name your influence... Read the Bible! It's a matter of Life or death.
Jimvesterstallone 1 year ago
@Jimvesterstallone Amen!!!! Deuteronomy 13! Protection!
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
I went to share this and it went to private vid! Excellent job on this! Your points are very clear! Favorited and shared! Liz
Lachance8 1 year ago
@Lachance8 Thanks Liz :) I was tweeking it just a bit, and you caught me ;) I hope this helps some who are not hearing the truth or reading it for themselves. Maybe this will peak their interest to dig in for themselves. Many Jew & Gentile believers, who are expecting the promised prophet Elijah of Malachi 4, will believe the FALSE Elijah-LIKE prophet (also promised to come) because he is doing signs & wonders---they are not reading the words of YHVH as written in Deuteronomy 13. Blessings2U
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
Great video, thank you so much for sharing and warning!
FoundthePearl1 1 year ago
@FoundthePearl1 Thanks for watching and for your encouragement. I blesses me when we as brothers and sisters agree in His word and look forward to His coming at His appointed time. Even so, come Lord Jesus!
boltingpuppies 1 year ago