If 00 had the 00 Raiser, WIng Zero Custom would get it's ASS RAPED 50 TIMES OVER, and im not just saying that cuz u think im a 00 Fanboy, cuz I ain't a fanboy of NO GUNDAM SERIES.
I've been a gundam fan for +16 years now, and I've seen the capabilities of both these mobile suits.
00 Raiser is stronger than Wing Zero Custom, but Wing Zero Custom is stronger than 00 Gundam without Raiser.
I will be happy to post facts backing up as to why this is if anybody actually gives a shit XD
@luck1233 quanta sucks. no reason raiser wouldnt beat it. only thing quanta had was teleport which doesnt help in a fight. the whole argument its and improvement cause its a later model doesnt mean anything. i feel wing zero is stronger physically than raiser and freedom but yeah it would probably go raiser>S freedom>quanta>zero. but pilot wise hero still kicks ass
@WackyModder84 What about the pilots? hero is one of the best there is. I mean he defeated Epyon using zero w/o relying on the twin buster riffle and just by a beam saber, and Epyon is a melee king (that thing attacks an entire colony alone without guns, and I have never seen it getting hit by a single shot from an entire army line nor the twin buster riffle).
He mastered the Z.E.R.O. System and has phenomenal Mobile Suit Combat Abilities.
However, Setsuna F. Seiei is still superior to Heero Yuy.
Setsuna F. Seiei can tune in on people's thoughts via Quantum Brainwaves, and due to the fact that he is a purebred innovator; that further gives him the ability to see the future.
In otherwords: Setsuna F. Seiei pretty much has a BUILT IN Z.E.R.O. System, while Heero Yuy needs Wing Zero to use it.
But the 00 Raiser's Weapons are unlike anything other gundams have had before.
GN Missiles, for example.
When those hit their target, they cause a chain reaction within the armor to have it bubble up and explode from the inside out.
Not to mention, the 00 Raiser's GN Sword\Rifles BOTH have the power of a non-charged shot from Wing Zero Custom's Buster Rifle; NOT INCLUDING TRANS-AM.
And of course, the Trans-Am Raiser Sword wud fuck WZC UP THE DICK
@WackyModder84 in a close-ranged battle, the 00 has the advantage since that's Setsuna's speciality. Long ranged though would be a problem for him, unless he uses Trans-AM to close in that gap and release 3000 cans of ass rape on the Wing Zero Custom. Besides, the Wing Zero can barely pull off three shots with the twin buster rifle before it destroys it's self so it'd basically be a shit battle with the 00 being the more advanced machine. Heero would somehow have to work around that.
Wing GUNDAM is the one that has the whole "3 Shots" limitation in it's buster rifle.
Wing ZERO removed that problem, and can spam as many buster rifle shots as it wants to.
And the ONLY REASON why Wing Zero Custom destroyed itself with its 3 shots is because IT WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED TO BEGIN WITH from not only Going Thru Re-Entry but also GETTING IT'S ASS BEAT by Altron Gundam Custom, because Heero didn't wanna fight Wufei. If Heero actually TRIED, he wud have PWNED Wufei.
Wing GUNDAM is the one that has the whole "3 Shots" limitation in it's buster rifle.
Wing ZERO removed that problem, and can spam as many buster rifle shots as it wants to.
And the ONLY REASON why Wing Zero Custom destroyed itself with its 3 shots is because IT WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED TO BEGIN WITH from not only Going Thru Re-Entry but also GETTING IT'S ASS BEAT by Altron Gundam Custom, because Heero didn't wanna fight Wufei. If Heero actually TRIED, he wud have PWNED Wufei.
@WackyModder84 If the Wing Zero removed that problem, it wouldn't have fell to pieces the way it did, even after recieving all that previous battle damage from the fight with Altron Custom. That gun is too powerful to be used shot after shot and should only be used in dire emergancies. Still, the 00 is the better machine due to the advancements of technology over the years. It all comes down to skill of the pilots, which would be a great battle to see.
Dude, the buster rifle may be strong, but the Recoil of it can still be maintained by the Wing Zero Custom.
Wufei fucked up Wing Zero Custom after Re-Entry. And yes, the Buster Rifle ITSELF removed that problem. But due 2 the fact that the mobile suit was heavily damaged BEFORE HAND, all of it's joints and everything cud not withstand the recoil this time. THAT'S WHY. It just goes to show how powerful the recoil is, and that if Wing Zero Custom WASN'T battle damaged, it wud be fine
As for the 00, yes its a very good gundam, but the 00 Raiser is what SOLVED it's problem with the Twin Drive System. And as a result, 00 Raiser became the 6th Most Powerful Gundam of All Time. But without the Raiser, 00 still has problems that it couldn't fully work out.
@WackyModder84 Setsuna was able to get the 00 to work perfectly without the raiser, of course he would since he's the main character haha. and yes, the raiser made the 00 more stable and made it able to be used at it's full potential. So with that said, the 00 with the raiser would easily over power the wing zero custom. lets not forget the raiser sword + the quantum teleportation that the 00 could use. without the raiser though, it'd be a more fair battle.
The 00 Raiser technically has the grounds to stands as one of the most powerful gundams in the series, hands down. Excluding Turn A and G Gundam, the other series actually pale in comparison because its technology level is that much higher. The GN drives were pretty much broken from the get go because of their sheer utility and really, the only reason why it would look weaker than certain other series is because its opponents were using the same technology.
#5 would be 00 Qan[T] for the obvious reasons of it being WAY MORE POWERFUL than the Raiser, AND the fact that 00 Qan[T] was said that if it was actually TRYING; that it can defeat the entire ELS Force all by itself in under a day.
But yeah! 00 Raiser is DEFINITELY one of the most powerful gundams ever made.
It's #6 in the Top 10, so that's a HUGE THING to be proud of!! =D
It may potentially be stronger (ELS Qant that is). It actually would be closer to top 3 in terms of ability for canonical Gundams (Turn A is always at the top and We don't know enough about the God Gundam to warrant a decent opinion).
I wonder how that fight would play out, Setsuna's Innovator abilities to read minds and Zero's ability to predict the future for its pilot would probably cancel eachother out so it would probably come down to sheer skill and luck.
WTF Hi Nu is stronger than Strike Freedom don't get me wrong SF is a powerful suit but it's just WAYYY overrated! Remember Hi Nu is a more powerful, Faster and a much more advanced version of the Nu gundam in every way and look at how powerful that was, Sorry if it was a fight between Hi Nu with Amuro piloting and SF with Kira i'm sorry but Kira would get PAWNED!!!!! Thumbs up if you agree
@YoungGrips Being fair about it, Nu wasn't as powerful as you state it to be. It was top of the line in it's era but any later UC Gundam outclasses it in any aspect. The only innovative technology it featured, beside psychoframe, were advanced funnels. Furthermore, you can't compare it's specs in any way since Seed/Destiny does not give any thrust g.force info. The only fairly compearable things are te armamaments. Not a fan of Seed in any way, but please, fair judgemetn and no fanboying.
From the information given, the Hi-Nu is still more advanced than the Strike Freedom. The Funnels always could create the enveloping shield which renders most conventional beam weapons against it useless. Maneuverability aside, the only unique weapon that SF has over the Hi-Nu is the chest cannon. The Hi-Nu also has longer periods of offense because unlike the SF, it does not suffer the design flaw of having the dragoons block the wing ports and that the Funnels having their own generators.
With the FT novel out Heero does know who his mother is, but probably doesn't remember her since he was taken by Odin at a young age and cared for by him up until Odin died. Its surprising to see who he's related to by law LOL. Just wanted to share htis small bit of info for those that haven't seen, heard of or read the FT novel (Frozen teardrop)
Heero Yuy is so much underrated, just because he is not a newtype, innovator, coordinator etc.. Some thinks that he is just a nobody without the Zero System, But he is a kind and very dedicated pilot, He completes every mission, he is very young and yet he can handle the zero system, he can infiltrate a colony and other enemy base, he can win a fight in a brawling fist fight or inside an MS, he can pilot a gundam leo etc, he is accurate, yet just a normal human, why can't others appreciate that?
@wildstriker128 Based on what we saw, Heero without Zero was a mediocre pilot, oftenly getting hit or missjudging the situation. It'd go even as far as to say that in my opinion every ther gundam pilot in series was better then him. Then again, he learned quite a bit in the process of the series, mastered zero and became quite a formidable piolt. He does deserve prise qand I do believe he'd do pretty well against other super pilots from other series.
@ellicor231 He is not a mediocre pilot, he is a super human, best at hacking caries mission perfectly, maybe he is suicidal that makes him professional for his missions are confidential and knowing that enemies might take some clues out of him, very dedicated to his missions.
@shadowtsunami Indeed, though Heero was a crappy pilot without Zero. His performance in Wing was hilariously weak. Got shot down, made hasty decisions, many bad judgements and so on.
That changed with Zero on, giving him a big battle ability boost. Then again, some other key characters were able to master Zero, it's fragment of would be able to master it. He's a really nice character though.
@ellicor231 but diring his fight against zechs, he didn't use the zero system at all, all he used was a saber, and vulcans, yet both pilots fought better than most newtypes
@omegashinobi They were using Zero all the time. And even though the fight was dynamic, beside shooting about saber clashes there's nothing spectacular about it. I do enjoy the dodging the planning though.
@ellicor231 actually you can tell whether or not zero was used or not
you see in WZ the cockpit would be glowing yellow, while in epyon the pilot would be wearing a helmet with the zero system installed within it. in other words the pilots werre using nothing but there own skills. and even though it didn't seem much compared to other gundam fights, this one basically pushed through atleast 3 colonies, so i guess thhat amounts to something. the only battles that used more space were in CCA &00s2
@omegashinobi Why would they fight without Zero? Why do we even assume such a thing? You can as well say that Heero never fought using zero, going by this logic. Anyways, it's not like I dislike this fight,it's actualy the best fight in Wing and you got to love the soundtrack. Like how dynamic it is.
Great video. Five stars! I disagree with the rest of you guys. Setsuna and Heero would probably smile at each other, shake hands, call up Domon, and then go hunting for Kamille, Loran, and Kira. "Aggressors VS Cry-babies". Who wants to see this happen?
@SpiritDragonSD that would be sweet, however kamille may have been a cry baby but he was a very very great pilot probably one of the top 5, now kira on the other hand LOL
@Fuzion, thats true, but like i was just basing the specs of weapon. And i did mean Zero custom lol. Imo, Zero would kick 00s ass if it just had the GN Drive. Not even twin system, just one would be enough.
00 Vs Wing Zero is uncomparable. Wing Zero's specs itself isnt enough to match with 00. Zeros speed is close but not really on par with 00. 00 can undergo transam / quantization *spelt wrong probably.* Also 00 has different variations of weapons, while Zeros specs always rely on the wing vulcans, Double beam blaster, and the beamsabre
@iMadePie You forgot the crash shield(yes, I'm talking about the original Zero). In anycase, since the Zero is considered "old" due to the fact that it still uses rocket thrusters, I wonder what'd happen if we simply gave it a GN Drive? Uh ooohhh.... too much? Heh, the only advantage I see with anything in 00 are the Drives, which also attribute to the overall skill and capabilities of the pilot. Never seen a 00 Gundam pilot rock out a standard machine, after all.
@Fuzion hahaha no problem your wish is granted, gundam wing frozen teardrop is out, all we need to wait is what are the new MS!!! Its a sequel for gundam wing!!!
two of my favorite gundams, really. but i still think zero would be dishing 00 out. i mean, you know, zero was the best ever made - both aesthetically and in terms of technology. even amuro would still seem overpowered even with his psychoframes, funnels, et al and whatnots. that's what i think, though.
Some people dont even know that some of 00 gundam and 00 raisers weapons have little effect against wing zeros gundanium alloy and wing zero also has zero system which means trans am will be no use
Ok, Gundanium alloy is strong, but not that strong. Trans am not only multiplies their GN particle out put, make them faster, and increases his weapon efficiency, he can Quantize if he makes a mistake. Plus, Setsuna's abilities as a genuine Innovator are pretty much the same as the Zero system, except Setsuna does it naturally and can go on for as long as he wishes. If I remember correctly, too much exposure to the Zero system has its side effects, But Setsuna isn't limited.
Choasxpaladin i belive your facts are correct but Heero mastered the Zero system and if he got the side effects that he would go crazy and go on a killing spree. Even if Trans am makes the weapon stronger it will only scratch the gundanium alloy a little bit. Gundanium alloy is the strongest gundam armor it can resist a limit of beams and i dont want to say wing zero is the best so i have to say that when trans am is activated 00 can use trans am lazer which is a good weapon against zero
true but Heero mastered the zero system and no longer has side effects from using it so he has unlimited use as well aslong as the zero system remains functional
@ChaosxPaladin I wouldn't go with 50/50 since realisticaly speaking that's, kinda impossible in this situation. Maybe against Gundam 00 with a pair of Sw II, without Trans-Am, like in this vid, but certainly not against 00R.
Zero sys emulates one of the basic New Type powers of being able to read opponents movements and act accordingly. An identical sys was developed in UC'verse for non-newtype pilos to be able to atleast have a chance against New Types.
@ellicor231 ZS is different from NT, NT is sensing emotions and detecting and knowing some attacks that are coming, while ZS gives you different scenarios of what will happen or might happen in the battle, thus knowing every possibilities that might happen in the future and sending everything to your brain plus gives you every possible counter attacks that will leads you to complete victory if your brain can handle it and complete defeat if not.
@wildstriker128 Precisely, though the key element remains human This is both a good and a bad thing. The decision making pattern falls under human judgement and human judgement by it's definition never was and never will be flawless. As it's widely known, the whole system is as strong as it's weakest link, which in this case is a human, thus it's not like thanks to the said system the pilot will always win.
The end result is solely based on pilots judgement ability, his piloting ability.
@ellicor231 First of all, he is a mediocre, and the weakest among the gundam pilot in the series yet he is the first who mastered the zero system among the 5, maybe quattre can handle it in the end of the series but not as good as Heero, all battle data possiblities being inputted directly in your mind is not easy and may cause the life of the pilot, complete defeat if you can't handle it but complete victory if you can, that's what zero system is, knowing the paths of the future and its result.
@ellicor231 yeah still human decision but if you could use zs correctly and not going crazy with the system itself, then you will know all the possible outcome of the battle thus surely you will choose the path that will give you complete victory.
Not really. The cutting ability of all melee, non-beam type weaponry of 00 is booster quite a bit by GNP infusion as stated in official files. That performance heigthens with more power output from the drive. 00R's Sword II at regular output of the suit can withstand and overpower beam saber blades as shown in series. Add to this their far, far superior beam blade mode.
And then we have Sword III which in itself was created because Sw II couldn't utilize 00R's power capacity. Sword III with condenser type blade that concetrates tramendous ammounts of particles to the point of creating superheat of magnitude that previous 007S EQ couldn't withstand and melted. Last instalment of Official Tech files, vol. 7 if I recall correctly, lists Sword III as a weapon that can virtualy cut through any possible material. Add Sw III beam saber mode and output of Trans-Am
Then we have Raiser Sword and overall Trans-Am ability of the suit. Zero system is something that imitates newtype abilities to some extent although based of what we know of New Type abilities, like reading enemies movements, position, thoughts, boosting suits abilities and superior space orientation and perception, Zero sys is not quite on par with those. Then we have Inno ability in 00 which is basically enchanced newtype power. If anything, Setsuna has a great advantage in this fight.
You know, the thing is, although Wing Zero and Zero sys are really amazing in battle, the tech used in the suit is pretty old. It also does not feature any powered weapon sys aside from TBR. It's weapons are very limited.
Zero sys can predict movements of enemies basing that judgement on collected data, dishing out scenarios of winning which pilot can either follow or decline. But still, this ability is exactly the same as that of a NewType.
@ellicor231 Actuaallyyy... the Newtype doesn't doesn't dish out the scenarios that the Zero System does. What the Newtype's mind does is sense the emotions of those around him/herself, and essentially knows that they're about to fire, and as such, they evade!
So truth be told, comparing to 00, which is at the very peak of tech and which basically created an A.D. newtype called Innovator, it's kind of over the top.
Still, no fight is settled right untill the very end. It's all about pilot ability afterall.
Tramendous output, Trans-Am which multiplies the output even more, everything that 00R can do in Trans-Am,
And Setsuna, a pilot who has fought the largest ammount of Ace type enemies in a long, long time. All the abilities off 00R are not as important as the pilot himself. Judgeing by his abilities and by all of those fights where he was at a disadvantage, he's one hell of a pilot.
plus, setsuna is an innovator^^ trans-am burst will kick wing zero custom's ass! and one more thing, 00 raiser is a master of close/meelee combat and speed while wing zero custom is master of range and firepower, so during versus a long range combat will quickly turn into a close quarter combat, so, the winner is 00raiser!!!!!!!!!!^^
Indeed, and 00R was not even fited for Setsuna's use. It didn't feature equipment optimised for the pilot. GN Sw II were outdated and couldn't handle the output of 00R. The unit only used Sw III as it's main weapon. 00R wasn't even optimised for Setsuna's Innovator capabilities.
In aspect of long range, 00R has more firepower then necessary to fight a long range oriented unit. 3 barrel rifle, chargable, Raiser Sword. Setsunas marksman skills are also great, as proven in Memento Mori fight.
Love both series. Still, being completely obejctive, 00R has a tramendous advantage in every possible field.
Condenser type GN Sw III which, as creators stated, can cut through any possible armor with ease, beam blade mode, 3 barrel mid-long rannge GN Rifle with rapid and burst damage shots, 1h Raiser Sword, GN Micro Missiles, 2x Raiser Rifles, 360* or point GN Field, tramendous speed and mobility, super high durability of E-Carbon Armor which can stand up to beams,
imo, wing zero and 00 riser are at the same level not matter on anything, as long as the writer wants it a draw, but if u said wing zero is far worst, then explain to me how wing zero beat master gundam in musou gundam 1
that tells u that noone can be sure that 00 riser is even stronger than exia, anyone can win battle as long as the writer says so.
but still, wing zero and 00 riser probably on par, this is because of the zero system in wing zero
but personally, in this game, i think wing zero CUSTOM was more powerfull from 00, the damage done by TBR is simply amazing even at LV1..and different from 00 GN Sword(not the Gn beam saber one), TBR can be powered-up by certain OP, it will get so powerfull, even if u power-up 00 beam saber, it still cant match TBR. i just make a vid of this game featuring my own wing zero custom, of course with the powered up TBR, u can see it for urself :")
well..no offense.. but the battle was draw...none of their unit was destroyed... (u can see the other battle demo, in some of them, one of the unit is destroyed that means that destroyed unit was the losing one)
g generation makes this battle over as a draw cuz they think those 2 unit has the same ability.
But i like Wzero better. it doesn't symbolize hope, it is a bloody WMD, very dangerous in the hands of wrong ppl and had blown up a space colony and killed one of its own pilots to prove it.
we haven't seen Double O kicking dogs yet.
so until it shows the worth of its pilot like Wzero, i will keep favoring Wzero.
What? ever seen Double O piloted by an asshole yet? i don't think so.
wing zero wins here, its lke he was never damage at the end, the best thing about WZ is that only heero can pilot it, maybe zechs can pilot it but as soon as heero use it and controlled it, it shown him different path from milliardo, WZ will win here but if its 00 Raiser, that will be a good match but i love WZC 4ever!!!
More like one sided fighting. A vastly inferior propulsion system, oversized weapons, lackluster melee options, 00 Raiser completely overwhelms it on a fundamental level. That plus Setsuna is an Innovator means that even the Zero system does little to overpower Setsuna. That and given that the 00 has trans-Am makes Wing Zero look rather paltry in comparison.
It's rather unfair to say so as both mechs are from different eras, have different but powerful weapons and hence we can't use the same standards to decide which mech can overcome the other. Moreover, Zero has its Zero system and TBR, hardly 'paltry'.
The Zero system does little better than Veda. The advantage that Veda is that it does not cause any damage to your brain. The Twin buster rifle is powerful but the Trans-Am Raiser has proven to be a much more powerful weapon.
And sadly, the time argument isn't always true. Apparently by the official rankings, the Seed Gundams are actually inferior to the Wing Gundams.
Pardon me, but can you cite the 'official rankings' that you mentioned? Just curious about it. Trans-Am Raiser, like all powerful weapons, is a double-edged sword. Sure, the mech's capabilities are tripled when it's activated but after the time limit, output of GN particles is greatly reduced, hence further reducing the mech's performance. Veda can be physically damaging for those unaccustomed to it, similar to 0 (case in point Louise Havely, who was forcefully made into an Innovade by Ribbons).
The weight to mobility records gives the Wing Zero an apparent weight advantage mainly because they are a lot lighter than any of the other gundams in the series. This makes them lighter and faster than the CE mobile suits.
But the GN technology alone is already more powerful than anything the AC era has to offer. Even without Trans-AM, their weapons are much more powerful as they are no longer reliant on heat weapons and can even generate GN fields. The tech scope is essentially much higher.
@teenfall654 I personally think 00 Raiser is the most powerful since it has abilities that allow it to quantize and other abilities, especially when piloted by a Pure-Bred Innovator.
Still, to each their own. Plus, God Gundam is awesome and has one of the best designs :)
@JKimproductions910 no, qod qundam is more powerful in qolden mode bevcause that mode is invincible for domon to be hit and has the more powerful attack. also, winq zero thas the best look.
@JKimproductions910 Gundam War lists God Gundam in Hyper mode to be inferior in specs to 00R in normal mode, not even using Trans-Am. Wing Zero is far behind both of them, even behing Strike Freedom. Saying Wing Zero is close to the ones mentioned above is an overstatement, not to mention equal or superior. No product or official file lists Wing Zero as a top tier Gundam.
@ellicor231 Well of course of it does. Gundams newer to the series always have higher stats then the older ones. Take super robot wars alpha 3, freedom gundam, though being inferior to Hi-nu spec wise it beat it in every single stat, as it did with every other gundam. And with Super robot wars Z strike freedom had the highest possible attack out of any other robot. 00 being a god in this game is merely because its his turn in the spotlight, just like in the next one Unicron will be a god.
@Poe360 00 was not in SRW Z, only in SD Gundam G Generation Wars and it was absolutely the best unit not because of a new entry but because the whole unit s considered to ge beyong the cabailities of a 'gundam' in it performance and abilities.
And to be true, SF can outperform Hi-Nu. Hi-Nu is nothing special spec wise. It was developed in 90s whilist other, far more advanced units like Xi, F91, Crossbone, V2 had from 20 to 60 years worth of technology advancement in them since the times of CCA
Hi-Nu was damn good for its time though, although like you said other series easily out perform it. The only reason it would stand up to the Strike Freedom is simply because of Amuro's skillz yo, lol.
@Poe360 And since Seed Destiny practicaly copied Gundam V technology concepts and implemented them it it's universe, one can compare DEstinys technology to UC of that time. Then again, Seed was never really good with technology so I wouldn't be that surprised if Hi-Nu turned out to be better then SF.
00 Raiser is good and fast, but it cant match the ANGEL OF DESTRUCTION!!! COMPLETE VICTORY said Z.E.R.O. System to HEERO!!! hahaha go for it ZHEERO!!!!!!
one can teleport and is on the verge of being a newtype, the other one has a machine that makes you crazy and see the future unless it's the movie in which case you can't see the future, get beaten up by the show's most annoying character and then blow ya self up.... yeah totally a draw :0
no he really isn't he doesnt have more depth than heero regarding his past, as for relationship with his comrades yes. but does that make him have more feelings the answer is no. but im not gonna argue over something like this everyone has their opinions.
wow if you think that heero and setsuna are different your idiots, watch the shows over again and youll see their identical, and as for the gundams they both are epic wings or whatever.
Nope, they're different. Heero never knew his parents, but Setsuna did. Setsuna worships Gundam, but Heero doesn't give a crap, just to complete his mission.
Their attitude is the same, but their way of thinking is different.
@portablemp5 He did a crap to Zero though, he thinks of it as a prime minister or something.he just loves talking to it than the annoying relena "peace" peacecrap
i never liked the wing zero custom, the angel wings looked kinda weird. heero was cool, if u could fight in space with only a green shirt on, you're the sh*t!
I like Sven and the Strike Noir better it's not ridiculously overpowered and it's pilot isn't a freak that can do impossible things like bend metal bars and process all possible information at once. That was mostly a insult towards Heero since it would be unfair to insult a series I never saw. I have my hopes that Setsuna is more like Sven I shall see.
yeah but you have to aim at a certain spot for most of them to destroy a colony, if wing zero fired even once without aiming, it would blow the place to smitherines
No the reason wing zero could blow up a colony in one shot is becasue everything in Gundam Wing was built with gasoline soaked paper machette......Seriously did u see how easy it was for a leo to blow up.....lol
Can't we all just get along?!?!?!?
andyx181x 1 month ago
the combat system of zero is the deal breaker folks
slimmugen 4 months ago
Put Heero in HI NU, F91 and Unicorn Gundam, I can Guarantee you Setsuna will not last long agaisn't Him. Heero Does not Need Zero System
Phenomenalhardy 8 months ago
If 00 had the 00 Raiser, WIng Zero Custom would get it's ASS RAPED 50 TIMES OVER, and im not just saying that cuz u think im a 00 Fanboy, cuz I ain't a fanboy of NO GUNDAM SERIES.
I've been a gundam fan for +16 years now, and I've seen the capabilities of both these mobile suits.
00 Raiser is stronger than Wing Zero Custom, but Wing Zero Custom is stronger than 00 Gundam without Raiser.
I will be happy to post facts backing up as to why this is if anybody actually gives a shit XD
WackyModder84 10 months ago 8
@WackyModder84 fuck you! ur fucking wrong. dang you...
it would be 1trillion times instead of merely 50 cuz wing cannot hit 00 raiser transam. 00 turns into gn particles!
luck1233 9 months ago
@luck1233
ooh! excuse me! XD
but you're still proving my point that 00 Raiser >>>> Wing Zero Custom, regardless.
WackyModder84 9 months ago
@WackyModder84 haha, i was trying to support you in the beginning. I only thought 50 times was too less for setsuna.
Right, 00 quantum>>>>00 raiser>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wing zero custom
luck1233 9 months ago
@luck1233 quanta sucks. no reason raiser wouldnt beat it. only thing quanta had was teleport which doesnt help in a fight. the whole argument its and improvement cause its a later model doesnt mean anything. i feel wing zero is stronger physically than raiser and freedom but yeah it would probably go raiser>S freedom>quanta>zero. but pilot wise hero still kicks ass
mylegs123 8 months ago
@WackyModder84 What about the pilots? hero is one of the best there is. I mean he defeated Epyon using zero w/o relying on the twin buster riffle and just by a beam saber, and Epyon is a melee king (that thing attacks an entire colony alone without guns, and I have never seen it getting hit by a single shot from an entire army line nor the twin buster riffle).
waterboyneb 5 months ago in playlist Gundam
@waterboyneb
True, Heero Yuy is an extremely skilled pilot.
He mastered the Z.E.R.O. System and has phenomenal Mobile Suit Combat Abilities.
However, Setsuna F. Seiei is still superior to Heero Yuy.
Setsuna F. Seiei can tune in on people's thoughts via Quantum Brainwaves, and due to the fact that he is a purebred innovator; that further gives him the ability to see the future.
In otherwords: Setsuna F. Seiei pretty much has a BUILT IN Z.E.R.O. System, while Heero Yuy needs Wing Zero to use it.
WackyModder84 5 months ago
@WackyModder84 What about the gundanium armor that Wing Zero Custom has? Which weapons will Setsuna use against it?
lemmehaviet 5 months ago
@lemmehaviet
Gundanium Armor; true, it's strong.
But the 00 Raiser's Weapons are unlike anything other gundams have had before.
GN Missiles, for example.
When those hit their target, they cause a chain reaction within the armor to have it bubble up and explode from the inside out.
Not to mention, the 00 Raiser's GN Sword\Rifles BOTH have the power of a non-charged shot from Wing Zero Custom's Buster Rifle; NOT INCLUDING TRANS-AM.
And of course, the Trans-Am Raiser Sword wud fuck WZC UP THE DICK
WackyModder84 5 months ago
@WackyModder84 Of course, this is all just conjecture since we've never actually seen them fight.
infringementMAN 4 months ago
@WackyModder84 in a close-ranged battle, the 00 has the advantage since that's Setsuna's speciality. Long ranged though would be a problem for him, unless he uses Trans-AM to close in that gap and release 3000 cans of ass rape on the Wing Zero Custom. Besides, the Wing Zero can barely pull off three shots with the twin buster rifle before it destroys it's self so it'd basically be a shit battle with the 00 being the more advanced machine. Heero would somehow have to work around that.
somthineasy 4 months ago
@somthineasy
Uh...NO?
Wing GUNDAM is the one that has the whole "3 Shots" limitation in it's buster rifle.
Wing ZERO removed that problem, and can spam as many buster rifle shots as it wants to.
And the ONLY REASON why Wing Zero Custom destroyed itself with its 3 shots is because IT WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED TO BEGIN WITH from not only Going Thru Re-Entry but also GETTING IT'S ASS BEAT by Altron Gundam Custom, because Heero didn't wanna fight Wufei. If Heero actually TRIED, he wud have PWNED Wufei.
WackyModder84 4 months ago
@somthineasy
Uh...NO?
Wing GUNDAM is the one that has the whole "3 Shots" limitation in it's buster rifle.
Wing ZERO removed that problem, and can spam as many buster rifle shots as it wants to.
And the ONLY REASON why Wing Zero Custom destroyed itself with its 3 shots is because IT WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED TO BEGIN WITH from not only Going Thru Re-Entry but also GETTING IT'S ASS BEAT by Altron Gundam Custom, because Heero didn't wanna fight Wufei. If Heero actually TRIED, he wud have PWNED Wufei.
WackyModder84 4 months ago
@WackyModder84 If the Wing Zero removed that problem, it wouldn't have fell to pieces the way it did, even after recieving all that previous battle damage from the fight with Altron Custom. That gun is too powerful to be used shot after shot and should only be used in dire emergancies. Still, the 00 is the better machine due to the advancements of technology over the years. It all comes down to skill of the pilots, which would be a great battle to see.
somthineasy 4 months ago
@somthineasy
Dude, the buster rifle may be strong, but the Recoil of it can still be maintained by the Wing Zero Custom.
Wufei fucked up Wing Zero Custom after Re-Entry. And yes, the Buster Rifle ITSELF removed that problem. But due 2 the fact that the mobile suit was heavily damaged BEFORE HAND, all of it's joints and everything cud not withstand the recoil this time. THAT'S WHY. It just goes to show how powerful the recoil is, and that if Wing Zero Custom WASN'T battle damaged, it wud be fine
WackyModder84 4 months ago
@somthineasy
As for the 00, yes its a very good gundam, but the 00 Raiser is what SOLVED it's problem with the Twin Drive System. And as a result, 00 Raiser became the 6th Most Powerful Gundam of All Time. But without the Raiser, 00 still has problems that it couldn't fully work out.
WackyModder84 4 months ago
@WackyModder84 Setsuna was able to get the 00 to work perfectly without the raiser, of course he would since he's the main character haha. and yes, the raiser made the 00 more stable and made it able to be used at it's full potential. So with that said, the 00 with the raiser would easily over power the wing zero custom. lets not forget the raiser sword + the quantum teleportation that the 00 could use. without the raiser though, it'd be a more fair battle.
somthineasy 4 months ago
The 00 Raiser technically has the grounds to stands as one of the most powerful gundams in the series, hands down. Excluding Turn A and G Gundam, the other series actually pale in comparison because its technology level is that much higher. The GN drives were pretty much broken from the get go because of their sheer utility and really, the only reason why it would look weaker than certain other series is because its opponents were using the same technology.
Machdude 3 months ago
@Machdude
You're absolutely right!
00 Raiser is actually the #6 on the Top 10.
#5 would be 00 Qan[T] for the obvious reasons of it being WAY MORE POWERFUL than the Raiser, AND the fact that 00 Qan[T] was said that if it was actually TRYING; that it can defeat the entire ELS Force all by itself in under a day.
But yeah! 00 Raiser is DEFINITELY one of the most powerful gundams ever made.
It's #6 in the Top 10, so that's a HUGE THING to be proud of!! =D
WackyModder84 3 months ago
It may potentially be stronger (ELS Qant that is). It actually would be closer to top 3 in terms of ability for canonical Gundams (Turn A is always at the top and We don't know enough about the God Gundam to warrant a decent opinion).
Machdude 3 months ago
I wonder how that fight would play out, Setsuna's Innovator abilities to read minds and Zero's ability to predict the future for its pilot would probably cancel eachother out so it would probably come down to sheer skill and luck.
sspate16 10 months ago
@sspate16 All it would take, would be the Trans-Am Raiser and the ability to Quantize. Game Over.
SlippedPurse 10 months ago
WTF Hi Nu is stronger than Strike Freedom don't get me wrong SF is a powerful suit but it's just WAYYY overrated! Remember Hi Nu is a more powerful, Faster and a much more advanced version of the Nu gundam in every way and look at how powerful that was, Sorry if it was a fight between Hi Nu with Amuro piloting and SF with Kira i'm sorry but Kira would get PAWNED!!!!! Thumbs up if you agree
YoungGrips 1 year ago 3
@YoungGrips Being fair about it, Nu wasn't as powerful as you state it to be. It was top of the line in it's era but any later UC Gundam outclasses it in any aspect. The only innovative technology it featured, beside psychoframe, were advanced funnels. Furthermore, you can't compare it's specs in any way since Seed/Destiny does not give any thrust g.force info. The only fairly compearable things are te armamaments. Not a fan of Seed in any way, but please, fair judgemetn and no fanboying.
ellicor231 1 year ago
From the information given, the Hi-Nu is still more advanced than the Strike Freedom. The Funnels always could create the enveloping shield which renders most conventional beam weapons against it useless. Maneuverability aside, the only unique weapon that SF has over the Hi-Nu is the chest cannon. The Hi-Nu also has longer periods of offense because unlike the SF, it does not suffer the design flaw of having the dragoons block the wing ports and that the Funnels having their own generators.
Machdude 11 months ago
With the FT novel out Heero does know who his mother is, but probably doesn't remember her since he was taken by Odin at a young age and cared for by him up until Odin died. Its surprising to see who he's related to by law LOL. Just wanted to share htis small bit of info for those that haven't seen, heard of or read the FT novel (Frozen teardrop)
aylinestraft 1 year ago
Heero Yuy is so much underrated, just because he is not a newtype, innovator, coordinator etc.. Some thinks that he is just a nobody without the Zero System, But he is a kind and very dedicated pilot, He completes every mission, he is very young and yet he can handle the zero system, he can infiltrate a colony and other enemy base, he can win a fight in a brawling fist fight or inside an MS, he can pilot a gundam leo etc, he is accurate, yet just a normal human, why can't others appreciate that?
wildstriker128 1 year ago 3
@wildstriker128 Based on what we saw, Heero without Zero was a mediocre pilot, oftenly getting hit or missjudging the situation. It'd go even as far as to say that in my opinion every ther gundam pilot in series was better then him. Then again, he learned quite a bit in the process of the series, mastered zero and became quite a formidable piolt. He does deserve prise qand I do believe he'd do pretty well against other super pilots from other series.
ellicor231 1 year ago
@ellicor231 He is not a mediocre pilot, he is a super human, best at hacking caries mission perfectly, maybe he is suicidal that makes him professional for his missions are confidential and knowing that enemies might take some clues out of him, very dedicated to his missions.
wildstriker128 1 year ago
the way i see it:
this video is about 2 terrorists duking it out.
think about it,
celestial beings 'were' a terrorist group.
and Heero's earlier missions was pretty much terrorism.
so there. funny huh?
tomimn2233 1 year ago
my favorite gundam is the deathsythe gundam/02 and the epion
Mrkalle37 1 year ago
hay guys ones you uesed transam it gives a timp speed boost and wind tran am is over your are a siting duck
MrJoshua93 1 year ago
the gundam doesnt make the pilot the pilot makes the gundam heero and allelujah haptism ftw
shadowtsunami 1 year ago
@shadowtsunami Indeed, though Heero was a crappy pilot without Zero. His performance in Wing was hilariously weak. Got shot down, made hasty decisions, many bad judgements and so on.
That changed with Zero on, giving him a big battle ability boost. Then again, some other key characters were able to master Zero, it's fragment of would be able to master it. He's a really nice character though.
ellicor231 1 year ago
yup his hasty decision with wing made he weak lol remember he just blowing himself up i was like wtf was that
shadowtsunami 1 year ago
@ellicor231 but diring his fight against zechs, he didn't use the zero system at all, all he used was a saber, and vulcans, yet both pilots fought better than most newtypes
omegashinobi 1 year ago
@omegashinobi They were using Zero all the time. And even though the fight was dynamic, beside shooting about saber clashes there's nothing spectacular about it. I do enjoy the dodging the planning though.
ellicor231 1 year ago
@ellicor231 actually you can tell whether or not zero was used or not
you see in WZ the cockpit would be glowing yellow, while in epyon the pilot would be wearing a helmet with the zero system installed within it. in other words the pilots werre using nothing but there own skills. and even though it didn't seem much compared to other gundam fights, this one basically pushed through atleast 3 colonies, so i guess thhat amounts to something. the only battles that used more space were in CCA &00s2
omegashinobi 1 year ago
@omegashinobi Why would they fight without Zero? Why do we even assume such a thing? You can as well say that Heero never fought using zero, going by this logic. Anyways, it's not like I dislike this fight,it's actualy the best fight in Wing and you got to love the soundtrack. Like how dynamic it is.
ellicor231 1 year ago
How about instead of arguing about who is better in this video game, we just sit down and enjoy it.
It's not as if anyone of them was killed.
adejobi1000 1 year ago
qod qundam is way more powerful and looks way cooler and is my favorite
teenfall654 1 year ago
Great video. Five stars! I disagree with the rest of you guys. Setsuna and Heero would probably smile at each other, shake hands, call up Domon, and then go hunting for Kamille, Loran, and Kira. "Aggressors VS Cry-babies". Who wants to see this happen?
SpiritDragonSD 1 year ago 2
@SpiritDragonSD i agree!
kl050196 1 year ago
@SpiritDragonSD that would be sweet, however kamille may have been a cry baby but he was a very very great pilot probably one of the top 5, now kira on the other hand LOL
shadowtsunami 1 year ago
@Fuzion, thats true, but like i was just basing the specs of weapon. And i did mean Zero custom lol. Imo, Zero would kick 00s ass if it just had the GN Drive. Not even twin system, just one would be enough.
iMadePie 1 year ago
00 Vs Wing Zero is uncomparable. Wing Zero's specs itself isnt enough to match with 00. Zeros speed is close but not really on par with 00. 00 can undergo transam / quantization *spelt wrong probably.* Also 00 has different variations of weapons, while Zeros specs always rely on the wing vulcans, Double beam blaster, and the beamsabre
iMadePie 1 year ago
@iMadePie You forgot the crash shield(yes, I'm talking about the original Zero). In anycase, since the Zero is considered "old" due to the fact that it still uses rocket thrusters, I wonder what'd happen if we simply gave it a GN Drive? Uh ooohhh.... too much? Heh, the only advantage I see with anything in 00 are the Drives, which also attribute to the overall skill and capabilities of the pilot. Never seen a 00 Gundam pilot rock out a standard machine, after all.
Fuzion 1 year ago
@Fuzion hahaha no problem your wish is granted, gundam wing frozen teardrop is out, all we need to wait is what are the new MS!!! Its a sequel for gundam wing!!!
wildstriker128 1 year ago
two of my favorite gundams, really. but i still think zero would be dishing 00 out. i mean, you know, zero was the best ever made - both aesthetically and in terms of technology. even amuro would still seem overpowered even with his psychoframes, funnels, et al and whatnots. that's what i think, though.
memzwafu 1 year ago 4
@memzwafu well i wouldnt really say wing zero was the best made interms of technology
lolperk111 2 months ago
Hiro say too slow then hit 00 and then Setsuna said too slow and hit wing zero custom that doesnt make any sense
jundidididi 1 year ago
Great stuff to start arguments with! Play nice kids.
infringementMAN 1 year ago
Some people dont even know that some of 00 gundam and 00 raisers weapons have little effect against wing zeros gundanium alloy and wing zero also has zero system which means trans am will be no use
lemmehaviet 2 years ago
Ok, Gundanium alloy is strong, but not that strong. Trans am not only multiplies their GN particle out put, make them faster, and increases his weapon efficiency, he can Quantize if he makes a mistake. Plus, Setsuna's abilities as a genuine Innovator are pretty much the same as the Zero system, except Setsuna does it naturally and can go on for as long as he wishes. If I remember correctly, too much exposure to the Zero system has its side effects, But Setsuna isn't limited.
ChaosxPaladin 2 years ago
Choasxpaladin i belive your facts are correct but Heero mastered the Zero system and if he got the side effects that he would go crazy and go on a killing spree. Even if Trans am makes the weapon stronger it will only scratch the gundanium alloy a little bit. Gundanium alloy is the strongest gundam armor it can resist a limit of beams and i dont want to say wing zero is the best so i have to say that when trans am is activated 00 can use trans am lazer which is a good weapon against zero
lemmehaviet 2 years ago
haha yeah. If anything, it would definitely be one helluva fight XD
ChaosxPaladin 2 years ago
true but Heero mastered the zero system and no longer has side effects from using it so he has unlimited use as well aslong as the zero system remains functional
knerrvana 1 year ago
sooo basically you're saying its 50/50, cause thats pretty much how I see it.
ChaosxPaladin 1 year ago
yea pritty much
knerrvana 1 year ago
@ChaosxPaladin I wouldn't go with 50/50 since realisticaly speaking that's, kinda impossible in this situation. Maybe against Gundam 00 with a pair of Sw II, without Trans-Am, like in this vid, but certainly not against 00R.
Zero sys emulates one of the basic New Type powers of being able to read opponents movements and act accordingly. An identical sys was developed in UC'verse for non-newtype pilos to be able to atleast have a chance against New Types.
ellicor231 1 year ago
@ellicor231 ZS is different from NT, NT is sensing emotions and detecting and knowing some attacks that are coming, while ZS gives you different scenarios of what will happen or might happen in the battle, thus knowing every possibilities that might happen in the future and sending everything to your brain plus gives you every possible counter attacks that will leads you to complete victory if your brain can handle it and complete defeat if not.
wildstriker128 1 year ago
@wildstriker128 Precisely, though the key element remains human This is both a good and a bad thing. The decision making pattern falls under human judgement and human judgement by it's definition never was and never will be flawless. As it's widely known, the whole system is as strong as it's weakest link, which in this case is a human, thus it's not like thanks to the said system the pilot will always win.
The end result is solely based on pilots judgement ability, his piloting ability.
ellicor231 1 year ago
@ellicor231 First of all, he is a mediocre, and the weakest among the gundam pilot in the series yet he is the first who mastered the zero system among the 5, maybe quattre can handle it in the end of the series but not as good as Heero, all battle data possiblities being inputted directly in your mind is not easy and may cause the life of the pilot, complete defeat if you can't handle it but complete victory if you can, that's what zero system is, knowing the paths of the future and its result.
wildstriker128 1 year ago
@ellicor231 yeah still human decision but if you could use zs correctly and not going crazy with the system itself, then you will know all the possible outcome of the battle thus surely you will choose the path that will give you complete victory.
wildstriker128 1 year ago
Not really. The cutting ability of all melee, non-beam type weaponry of 00 is booster quite a bit by GNP infusion as stated in official files. That performance heigthens with more power output from the drive. 00R's Sword II at regular output of the suit can withstand and overpower beam saber blades as shown in series. Add to this their far, far superior beam blade mode.
ellicor231 1 year ago
And then we have Sword III which in itself was created because Sw II couldn't utilize 00R's power capacity. Sword III with condenser type blade that concetrates tramendous ammounts of particles to the point of creating superheat of magnitude that previous 007S EQ couldn't withstand and melted. Last instalment of Official Tech files, vol. 7 if I recall correctly, lists Sword III as a weapon that can virtualy cut through any possible material. Add Sw III beam saber mode and output of Trans-Am
ellicor231 1 year ago
Then we have Raiser Sword and overall Trans-Am ability of the suit. Zero system is something that imitates newtype abilities to some extent although based of what we know of New Type abilities, like reading enemies movements, position, thoughts, boosting suits abilities and superior space orientation and perception, Zero sys is not quite on par with those. Then we have Inno ability in 00 which is basically enchanced newtype power. If anything, Setsuna has a great advantage in this fight.
ellicor231 1 year ago
I should watch gundam 00 before judging next time
lemmehaviet 1 year ago
You know, the thing is, although Wing Zero and Zero sys are really amazing in battle, the tech used in the suit is pretty old. It also does not feature any powered weapon sys aside from TBR. It's weapons are very limited.
Zero sys can predict movements of enemies basing that judgement on collected data, dishing out scenarios of winning which pilot can either follow or decline. But still, this ability is exactly the same as that of a NewType.
ellicor231 1 year ago
@ellicor231 Actuaallyyy... the Newtype doesn't doesn't dish out the scenarios that the Zero System does. What the Newtype's mind does is sense the emotions of those around him/herself, and essentially knows that they're about to fire, and as such, they evade!
Fuzion 1 year ago
So truth be told, comparing to 00, which is at the very peak of tech and which basically created an A.D. newtype called Innovator, it's kind of over the top.
Still, no fight is settled right untill the very end. It's all about pilot ability afterall.
ellicor231 1 year ago
well the winner here is wing zero
Hero is a PILOT well trained in this kind of mission while Setsuna was trained for terorist attake only.
Gundam OO are stupid gundam unlike wing zero who got a soul
medealancer 2 years ago
@medaelancer
it's common sense. Zero doesn't have a soul Because it's a machine not a living organism.
Zerokaiser00 2 years ago
Tramendous output, Trans-Am which multiplies the output even more, everything that 00R can do in Trans-Am,
And Setsuna, a pilot who has fought the largest ammount of Ace type enemies in a long, long time. All the abilities off 00R are not as important as the pilot himself. Judgeing by his abilities and by all of those fights where he was at a disadvantage, he's one hell of a pilot.
ellicor231 2 years ago
plus, setsuna is an innovator^^ trans-am burst will kick wing zero custom's ass! and one more thing, 00 raiser is a master of close/meelee combat and speed while wing zero custom is master of range and firepower, so during versus a long range combat will quickly turn into a close quarter combat, so, the winner is 00raiser!!!!!!!!!!^^
HHHBio10 2 years ago
Indeed, and 00R was not even fited for Setsuna's use. It didn't feature equipment optimised for the pilot. GN Sw II were outdated and couldn't handle the output of 00R. The unit only used Sw III as it's main weapon. 00R wasn't even optimised for Setsuna's Innovator capabilities.
In aspect of long range, 00R has more firepower then necessary to fight a long range oriented unit. 3 barrel rifle, chargable, Raiser Sword. Setsunas marksman skills are also great, as proven in Memento Mori fight.
ellicor231 2 years ago 3
Love both series. Still, being completely obejctive, 00R has a tramendous advantage in every possible field.
Condenser type GN Sw III which, as creators stated, can cut through any possible armor with ease, beam blade mode, 3 barrel mid-long rannge GN Rifle with rapid and burst damage shots, 1h Raiser Sword, GN Micro Missiles, 2x Raiser Rifles, 360* or point GN Field, tramendous speed and mobility, super high durability of E-Carbon Armor which can stand up to beams,
ellicor231 2 years ago 2
wing zero custom vs 00 gundam, 00 gundam is dead.
wing zero custom vs 00 raiser, wing zero custom is way dead.
HHHBio10 2 years ago
wing zero has zero system which help them predicting enemies movement, while 00 riser have the speed(GN drive, trans am) and powerful melee attack,
thus it will be on par and the outcome of battle will depend on the pilot and screen writer
13642068 2 years ago
some people argue which is better,
imo, wing zero and 00 riser are at the same level not matter on anything, as long as the writer wants it a draw, but if u said wing zero is far worst, then explain to me how wing zero beat master gundam in musou gundam 1
that tells u that noone can be sure that 00 riser is even stronger than exia, anyone can win battle as long as the writer says so.
but still, wing zero and 00 riser probably on par, this is because of the zero system in wing zero
13642068 2 years ago
always a fan of Wing Zero Custom ^^
finolawrence 2 years ago
wad platform is this game on??
dinobreaking 2 years ago
but personally, in this game, i think wing zero CUSTOM was more powerfull from 00, the damage done by TBR is simply amazing even at LV1..and different from 00 GN Sword(not the Gn beam saber one), TBR can be powered-up by certain OP, it will get so powerfull, even if u power-up 00 beam saber, it still cant match TBR. i just make a vid of this game featuring my own wing zero custom, of course with the powered up TBR, u can see it for urself :")
kisatou 2 years ago
well..no offense.. but the battle was draw...none of their unit was destroyed... (u can see the other battle demo, in some of them, one of the unit is destroyed that means that destroyed unit was the losing one)
g generation makes this battle over as a draw cuz they think those 2 unit has the same ability.
and i think there are no "official ranking"
kisatou 2 years ago
Wzero loses the battle.
But i like Wzero better. it doesn't symbolize hope, it is a bloody WMD, very dangerous in the hands of wrong ppl and had blown up a space colony and killed one of its own pilots to prove it.
we haven't seen Double O kicking dogs yet.
so until it shows the worth of its pilot like Wzero, i will keep favoring Wzero.
What? ever seen Double O piloted by an asshole yet? i don't think so.
tomimn2233 2 years ago
wing zero wins here, its lke he was never damage at the end, the best thing about WZ is that only heero can pilot it, maybe zechs can pilot it but as soon as heero use it and controlled it, it shown him different path from milliardo, WZ will win here but if its 00 Raiser, that will be a good match but i love WZC 4ever!!!
wildstriker128 2 years ago
WOOO GO Wing Zero Custom!!
Deathdragoon799 2 years ago
I love them both. So I can't choose... >.>
But if one pilot was going to win... it'd definitely be Amuro in Hi-Nu Gundam. haha! :P
Grubilman 2 years ago
@Grubilman
Amuro may be good but he is not here in this discussion.
pitiling 2 years ago
@pitiling
I know. It was just me being a wise-ass. I'm just tired of every argument seeming to be about Heero, Kira, or Setsuna. lol :P
Grubilman 2 years ago
Wing zero custom FTW!
kl050196 2 years ago 11
00 raiser FTW
00raiserkiller123 2 years ago
More like one sided fighting. A vastly inferior propulsion system, oversized weapons, lackluster melee options, 00 Raiser completely overwhelms it on a fundamental level. That plus Setsuna is an Innovator means that even the Zero system does little to overpower Setsuna. That and given that the 00 has trans-Am makes Wing Zero look rather paltry in comparison.
Machdude 2 years ago
It's rather unfair to say so as both mechs are from different eras, have different but powerful weapons and hence we can't use the same standards to decide which mech can overcome the other. Moreover, Zero has its Zero system and TBR, hardly 'paltry'.
mecha42 2 years ago 2
The Zero system does little better than Veda. The advantage that Veda is that it does not cause any damage to your brain. The Twin buster rifle is powerful but the Trans-Am Raiser has proven to be a much more powerful weapon.
And sadly, the time argument isn't always true. Apparently by the official rankings, the Seed Gundams are actually inferior to the Wing Gundams.
Machdude 2 years ago 3
Pardon me, but can you cite the 'official rankings' that you mentioned? Just curious about it. Trans-Am Raiser, like all powerful weapons, is a double-edged sword. Sure, the mech's capabilities are tripled when it's activated but after the time limit, output of GN particles is greatly reduced, hence further reducing the mech's performance. Veda can be physically damaging for those unaccustomed to it, similar to 0 (case in point Louise Havely, who was forcefully made into an Innovade by Ribbons).
mecha42 2 years ago
The weight to mobility records gives the Wing Zero an apparent weight advantage mainly because they are a lot lighter than any of the other gundams in the series. This makes them lighter and faster than the CE mobile suits.
But the GN technology alone is already more powerful than anything the AC era has to offer. Even without Trans-AM, their weapons are much more powerful as they are no longer reliant on heat weapons and can even generate GN fields. The tech scope is essentially much higher.
Machdude 2 years ago
WING ZERO CUSTOM FTW!!!!!!!!!!
kl050196 2 years ago 4
Wing Zero Custom is my favorite no matter what
XxWestPopxX 2 years ago 32
@XxWestPopxX no, qod qundam is more powerful, and looks way cooler and is my favorite
teenfall654 1 year ago
@teenfall654 I personally think 00 Raiser is the most powerful since it has abilities that allow it to quantize and other abilities, especially when piloted by a Pure-Bred Innovator.
Still, to each their own. Plus, God Gundam is awesome and has one of the best designs :)
JKimproductions910 1 year ago
@JKimproductions910 no, qod qundam is more powerful in qolden mode bevcause that mode is invincible for domon to be hit and has the more powerful attack. also, winq zero thas the best look.
teenfall654 1 year ago
@teenfall654 hmmm.. I see. I'll have to brush up again on this.
JKimproductions910 1 year ago
@JKimproductions910 how can you reply me so fast
teenfall654 1 year ago
@teenfall654 'cause I'm awesome? XD No. I just have no life... sadly... waiting for my MG exia to come is all XD
JKimproductions910 1 year ago
@JKimproductions910 Gundam War lists God Gundam in Hyper mode to be inferior in specs to 00R in normal mode, not even using Trans-Am. Wing Zero is far behind both of them, even behing Strike Freedom. Saying Wing Zero is close to the ones mentioned above is an overstatement, not to mention equal or superior. No product or official file lists Wing Zero as a top tier Gundam.
ellicor231 1 year ago
@ellicor231 Well of course of it does. Gundams newer to the series always have higher stats then the older ones. Take super robot wars alpha 3, freedom gundam, though being inferior to Hi-nu spec wise it beat it in every single stat, as it did with every other gundam. And with Super robot wars Z strike freedom had the highest possible attack out of any other robot. 00 being a god in this game is merely because its his turn in the spotlight, just like in the next one Unicron will be a god.
Poe360 1 year ago
@Poe360 00 was not in SRW Z, only in SD Gundam G Generation Wars and it was absolutely the best unit not because of a new entry but because the whole unit s considered to ge beyong the cabailities of a 'gundam' in it performance and abilities.
And to be true, SF can outperform Hi-Nu. Hi-Nu is nothing special spec wise. It was developed in 90s whilist other, far more advanced units like Xi, F91, Crossbone, V2 had from 20 to 60 years worth of technology advancement in them since the times of CCA
ellicor231 1 year ago
@ellicor231
Hi-Nu was damn good for its time though, although like you said other series easily out perform it. The only reason it would stand up to the Strike Freedom is simply because of Amuro's skillz yo, lol.
quenton444 1 year ago
@Poe360 And since Seed Destiny practicaly copied Gundam V technology concepts and implemented them it it's universe, one can compare DEstinys technology to UC of that time. Then again, Seed was never really good with technology so I wouldn't be that surprised if Hi-Nu turned out to be better then SF.
ellicor231 1 year ago
@Poe360
In Alpha 3, my maxed Hi-Nu does more damage than the Freedom. In Z, there are MUCH more damaging robots.
quenton444 1 year ago
00 Raiser is good and fast, but it cant match the ANGEL OF DESTRUCTION!!! COMPLETE VICTORY said Z.E.R.O. System to HEERO!!! hahaha go for it ZHEERO!!!!!!
wildstriker128 2 years ago
2 of the best gundam pilots fighting its gonna be a DRAW!!!!
Phenomenalhardy 2 years ago 5
one can teleport and is on the verge of being a newtype, the other one has a machine that makes you crazy and see the future unless it's the movie in which case you can't see the future, get beaten up by the show's most annoying character and then blow ya self up.... yeah totally a draw :0
Slixer 2 years ago 3
both is my favorite gundam,both is my favorite character......
D3ViLzZzNiGtHkiILeRz 2 years ago
no he really isn't he doesnt have more depth than heero regarding his past, as for relationship with his comrades yes. but does that make him have more feelings the answer is no. but im not gonna argue over something like this everyone has their opinions.
Ashren13 2 years ago
Setsuna is the better character because thier is more depth to the character then thier is with Heero.
animeownage86 2 years ago
"Episode Zero" and "Battlefield of Pacifist" were pretty good at explaining Heero's past. But Anime beats Manga I guess.
MilliardoPeacecraftX 2 years ago 2
Heero is supposed to be a mysterious character, so you're not supposed to know much about him.
Delphinuim 2 years ago 2
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Medisonhat 2 years ago
Will do
adejobi1000 2 years ago
wow if you think that heero and setsuna are different your idiots, watch the shows over again and youll see their identical, and as for the gundams they both are epic wings or whatever.
Ashren13 2 years ago
Nope, they're different. Heero never knew his parents, but Setsuna did. Setsuna worships Gundam, but Heero doesn't give a crap, just to complete his mission.
Their attitude is the same, but their way of thinking is different.
portablemp5 2 years ago 20
good word!
pC9413007 2 years ago
@portablemp5 and Setsuna killed his parents >_>
SnakeChimera 1 year ago
@portablemp5 He did a crap to Zero though, he thinks of it as a prime minister or something.he just loves talking to it than the annoying relena "peace" peacecrap
christlubas 1 year ago
the zeros call to each other.
Poe360 2 years ago
i never liked the wing zero custom, the angel wings looked kinda weird. heero was cool, if u could fight in space with only a green shirt on, you're the sh*t!
heavy2889 2 years ago
lmao^^
HHHBio10 2 years ago
00 gundam +oil @@
gngu1 2 years ago
Go Heero.
Zero System Predicted that!
maskedyazoo 2 years ago 4
i love this music
13131000TheAlex 2 years ago
the first pilot i picked heero yuy now lvl 53
oflightanddark 2 years ago
hero and setsuna are alike
greenranger213 2 years ago
I like Sven and the Strike Noir better it's not ridiculously overpowered and it's pilot isn't a freak that can do impossible things like bend metal bars and process all possible information at once. That was mostly a insult towards Heero since it would be unfair to insult a series I never saw. I have my hopes that Setsuna is more like Sven I shall see.
animeownage86 2 years ago
He wont. He is more like Jesus in 00 He heals the sick (Lasse) Excorcises demons (Louise Halevy) and almost revives the dead (Tieria and Regene)
aliastheabnormal 2 years ago
well at least he doesn't bend bars.
darksword101 2 years ago
Lmao
vidj260 2 years ago
hahax! lol! lmao.. you guys really have sense of humor!! ^^ haha..
HHHBio10 2 years ago
I LOVE WING ZERO CUSTOM
kl050196 2 years ago 2
how sagara shin?
w0quantum 2 years ago
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SagaraShin 2 years ago
lol both of them said too slow to one another
blackordus 2 years ago 4
Wing Zero could never lose to the 00 but i would like to see Wing Zero going against the 00 Raiser.
stanley2011 2 years ago 4
wing zero has like very accurate shot with 2 buster rifles that can blow you away with just 1 SHOT!!!!!
HaseoXthMod 2 years ago 2
Not to mention it has one of the best pilots out there.
fdaslkdf 2 years ago 3
lol, there are TONS of gundams/non-gundams have guns that can blow you away with just one shot:
ZZ Gundam, Gundam Unit 4, Hyaku Shiki,Geymalk, Dooben Wolf, Quin Mantha, Gundam Double X, Gundam X, Gundam Virtue, Gundam Seravee, Gundam Virsago, Gundam Belphegor, V2 Gundam, Gottrlatan, Zanneck, Gundam F91, Gundam 00 Raiser, Turn A Gundam, Turn X, WaDOM, Super Gundam, Destroy Gundam, Psyco Gundam, Psyco Gundam Mk.II, Gundam Physalis, Dendrobium
...and the list goes on forever. Get the point?
LyricalFatechan 2 years ago
really? what about akatsuki you know cagalli's mobile suit that Shin's beam rifle have no affect on.
HaseoXthMod 2 years ago
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pitiling 2 years ago
yeah but you have to aim at a certain spot for most of them to destroy a colony, if wing zero fired even once without aiming, it would blow the place to smitherines
omegashinobi 2 years ago
No the reason wing zero could blow up a colony in one shot is becasue everything in Gundam Wing was built with gasoline soaked paper machette......Seriously did u see how easy it was for a leo to blow up.....lol
darkoni12398 2 years ago
How many can of those suits can blow away stuff the size of Mount Everest?
Mangekyou001 2 years ago
so this is what happens when my 2 favorite pilots battle it out......
GUNDAMmeister11 2 years ago 5
master of mellee vs master of range .
and both of em are weirdos ....epic
ipekatomang 2 years ago 3
Heero is sick in both melee and range. By sick i mean he'll rape your fucking face.
fdaslkdf 2 years ago 2
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Its so awesome to see Exia fighting Wing Zero
AmericasAvenger 2 years ago
>>...thats not exia
sharinganguneye 2 years ago
Let me rephrase that. Its so awesome to see 00 Gundam fighting Wing Zero
AmericasAvenger 2 years ago 3
The title of this demo is called "True Justice" ???
w0quantum 2 years ago
wht lol didi wing lose by 1 slash tht didnt make sense cuz wing has strong armor
aerogirl2004 2 years ago
but not strong enough for the Gn-Sword :P
HIIMDAVID12345555 2 years ago
well, wing never lose in the first place...
w0quantum 2 years ago 3
I know that
i was making a statement if he did lose
HIIMDAVID12345555 2 years ago
You see, it's funny because both characters are alike.
Voltan 2 years ago 6
'cept Setsuna has more personality.
jamauln1 2 years ago 4
Damn straight
Voltan 2 years ago 4
Setsuna has more personality?
You've got to be fucking joking
adejobi1000 2 years ago
Nope. Setsuna has more passion and shows more emotion. More personality. Not as one dimensional as Heero.
jamauln1 2 years ago
Are you joking? Setsuna is bland as shit, especially in S2. He only has two emotions, none or fighting.
adejobi1000 2 years ago