Pardon my ignorance, but if the precession of the planets around the sun occurs like the graphic indicates, then surely Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 would be been significantly further from the earth after 40 years of travel? No?
Now we need a simulation adding in the movement of the galaxy within the universe and the universe within whatever holds the universe and so on. It would probably be reminiscent of vibrating atoms.
Every star in the milky way is orbiting the supermassive blackhole at the center of the galexy. All the proof you really need is to know that gravity works. If we are orbiting the sun then the sun is orbiting the core and while this model isn't correct tilt of the Solar system relative to the sun's orbital path around the galexy, the planets are moving through space with the sun.
The dust trails left by periodical comets that the Earth passes through every year would, in this model, be left BEHIND in space never to be passed through again !!
@moonboots69 NO! That meteor swarm and the comet are simply part of the solar system--just as jupiter is. We dont leave jupiter behind! One obvious motion (among others) that the sun has is its 220mil yr orbit around the galactic center which = a speed of 130mi/sec.
@tampicokeed sorry dude, you are wrong.. annual meteor showers occur when the earth passes through the dust littered path of known periodical comets - that means its past trail through space. In this model how can ANY of the bodies be in the same 'old' bit of space again (to go through that previous cometary dust) if they are continuously moving forward into a new space?
@moonboots69 because just like everything else in the solar system(like jupiter, or the asteroids,moon,comets, etc,etc), that swarm is part of the solar system.. Im puzzled about how u CAN visualize the moon not being "left behind" as the earth moves at 18mi/sec around around the sun, but CANNOT visualize the solar system (and everything in it) in orbit around the center of the galaxy without things being "left behind"-- and the whole galaxy in some particular motion in/with its local group.
@tampicokeed it really is simple but you cannot see it... ok try looking at it this way - in this model/vid assume one of the planets is a COMET. The visible spiral line/track it leaves behind itself in space is its dust trail ok? Can you not see that any of the the other bodies (in this incorrect model) could never pass through that dust trail again? Cont.....
@moonboots69 Wel obviously i am th one who CAN see it. lol. That dust (just like everythng else in the solar system includng the comet,the moon, and jupiter etc)is in its own particular orbit around th sun. That little meteor is essentialy just anothr planet orbitng the sun. I m puzzld about why u think one body orbitig th sun would b "left behind" but anothr (the moon) would not. But i gues u believ nothng is left behind becaus nothng is movng!!It is movng, at 130m/sec galax orbit+other (ont)
@moonboots69 (cont) As far as the trail of dust behind th comet as proof of things "left behind"? Did u ever notic th tail of a comet? That is not "left behind"stuff, it is pushed there by th forc of suns rays hittng the particles. I am sure that and gravitational effects from planets distributed this material over countless millenia. Anyhow, any good encyclopedia (even wikipedia, and definitely NOT utube) would help u with this if u r genuinely interested
@moonboots69 U"give up on me"?? Thats touching! lol. U had nothing to teach me--i understood your very juvenile points from th very beginning. Ur idea that i might be defending some utube kook is absurd---just some basic 6th grade astronomy man. Have a good day
@moonboots69 Gee, me understanding some basic,mundane physics/astronomy is "new age".lol Buddy i dont even know what new age is. Im talking 2 a person (you)who is so naive and obstinant that he cannot even visualize that it is possible 4 th urth 2 revolv around th center of th galaxy, and within that galaxy the stars 2 have large motions in relation 2 each other(and while all that is going on ,2 hav periodic meteor showers)lol. I had a better grasp of th physical univers at 10 than u do now.
@tampicokeed ....Comet Swift-Tuttle responsible for the annual Persieds has a 130-year orbit around the Sun, but the Earth passes through its dust trail at the SAME TIME every year
:)...nice, close but ...incomplete, though: even the sun is spiraling around(towards) Alcione...and Alcione around the center of our Milky Way galaxy and ...and our galaxy around another greater galaxy and that one around the center of this local universe and this local universe is also spiraling together wit some other three universes towards a WAAAAAY BIGER AND GREATER CENTRAL UNIVERSE...Now, what about that view...if you can grasp it?!...
And this motion is relative to what? One could construct a model where the reference point is moving away from the solar system radially in (near) the plane of the planets' orbits, or any other direction, for that matter.
This model answers a lot more questions for me then the current model. My "why don't we see the stars in different positions each night?" question was answered by Anubis. The vastness of space is intangible and down right mind boggling. Beautiful vortex moving to the light taking us home.
This is actually known to modern astronomy, but not given much significance, which is a major error. The shift in viewing solar system motions as a spiral, rather than a closed circle, is even more significant than the shift from the original view of Copernican perfect circles to Keplerian elipses. The first natural scientist to detail the issues was Wilhelm Reich, in the book "Cosmic Superimposition". Interestingly, that book was literally banned and burned in the USA, by the FDA.
Because even though our Sun and solar system is moving at thousands of miles per hour, even the nearest other stars are hundreds of thousands of light years away. we could travel for millennia and not run into anything, or see any difference in the night sky.
Its the same effect for earth. Earth travels at thousands of miles per hour, but it still takes 365 days to move around the sun once. The distances are so astronomical that it doesnt seem like we're moving at all. Understand?
@qezart The answer to your question is simple. The sun doesn't goes anywhere it wants. It has its own specific orbit(around the twelve constellations) it goes on. It takes 26,000 years for the sun to complete one round.
First model closest! Awesome
service4cash 1 week ago
Makes sense look at the picture of the Milky Way.
CodeRedInstrumentals 1 month ago
Pardon my ignorance, but if the precession of the planets around the sun occurs like the graphic indicates, then surely Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 would be been significantly further from the earth after 40 years of travel? No?
grifter116 1 month ago
Because, according to this, Earth isn`t orbiting the Sun, and the Sun isn`t orbiting the milkyway.
rmthomas2001 1 month ago
really.
rmthomas2001 1 month ago
Nice try. Where`s Earth?
rmthomas2001 1 month ago
shit the bed
DICKIEMONSTER 1 month ago
Now we need a simulation adding in the movement of the galaxy within the universe and the universe within whatever holds the universe and so on. It would probably be reminiscent of vibrating atoms.
TickingClock2013 1 month ago 2
This video is correct, becasue everything in the universe is always changing and moving.
16nowhereman 1 month ago
excellent video
SolarWatcher 1 month ago
Every star in the milky way is orbiting the supermassive blackhole at the center of the galexy. All the proof you really need is to know that gravity works. If we are orbiting the sun then the sun is orbiting the core and while this model isn't correct tilt of the Solar system relative to the sun's orbital path around the galexy, the planets are moving through space with the sun.
seenoevil760 2 months ago
sorry but this is WRONG..
proof ?
regular predictable annual meteor showers...!
The dust trails left by periodical comets that the Earth passes through every year would, in this model, be left BEHIND in space never to be passed through again !!
moonboots69 2 months ago
@moonboots69 NO! That meteor swarm and the comet are simply part of the solar system--just as jupiter is. We dont leave jupiter behind! One obvious motion (among others) that the sun has is its 220mil yr orbit around the galactic center which = a speed of 130mi/sec.
tampicokeed 2 months ago
@tampicokeed sorry dude, you are wrong.. annual meteor showers occur when the earth passes through the dust littered path of known periodical comets - that means its past trail through space. In this model how can ANY of the bodies be in the same 'old' bit of space again (to go through that previous cometary dust) if they are continuously moving forward into a new space?
moonboots69 2 months ago
@moonboots69 because just like everything else in the solar system(like jupiter, or the asteroids,moon,comets, etc,etc), that swarm is part of the solar system.. Im puzzled about how u CAN visualize the moon not being "left behind" as the earth moves at 18mi/sec around around the sun, but CANNOT visualize the solar system (and everything in it) in orbit around the center of the galaxy without things being "left behind"-- and the whole galaxy in some particular motion in/with its local group.
tampicokeed 2 months ago
@tampicokeed it really is simple but you cannot see it... ok try looking at it this way - in this model/vid assume one of the planets is a COMET. The visible spiral line/track it leaves behind itself in space is its dust trail ok? Can you not see that any of the the other bodies (in this incorrect model) could never pass through that dust trail again? Cont.....
moonboots69 2 months ago
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moonboots69 2 months ago
@moonboots69 Wel obviously i am th one who CAN see it. lol. That dust (just like everythng else in the solar system includng the comet,the moon, and jupiter etc)is in its own particular orbit around th sun. That little meteor is essentialy just anothr planet orbitng the sun. I m puzzld about why u think one body orbitig th sun would b "left behind" but anothr (the moon) would not. But i gues u believ nothng is left behind becaus nothng is movng!!It is movng, at 130m/sec galax orbit+other (ont)
tampicokeed 1 month ago
@moonboots69 (cont) As far as the trail of dust behind th comet as proof of things "left behind"? Did u ever notic th tail of a comet? That is not "left behind"stuff, it is pushed there by th forc of suns rays hittng the particles. I am sure that and gravitational effects from planets distributed this material over countless millenia. Anyhow, any good encyclopedia (even wikipedia, and definitely NOT utube) would help u with this if u r genuinely interested
tampicokeed 1 month ago
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moonboots69 1 month ago
@moonboots69 U"give up on me"?? Thats touching! lol. U had nothing to teach me--i understood your very juvenile points from th very beginning. Ur idea that i might be defending some utube kook is absurd---just some basic 6th grade astronomy man. Have a good day
tampicokeed 1 month ago
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moonboots69 1 month ago
@moonboots69 Gee, me understanding some basic,mundane physics/astronomy is "new age".lol Buddy i dont even know what new age is. Im talking 2 a person (you)who is so naive and obstinant that he cannot even visualize that it is possible 4 th urth 2 revolv around th center of th galaxy, and within that galaxy the stars 2 have large motions in relation 2 each other(and while all that is going on ,2 hav periodic meteor showers)lol. I had a better grasp of th physical univers at 10 than u do now.
tampicokeed 1 month ago 2
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@tampicokeed ....Comet Swift-Tuttle responsible for the annual Persieds has a 130-year orbit around the Sun, but the Earth passes through its dust trail at the SAME TIME every year
moonboots69 2 months ago
:)...nice, close but ...incomplete, though: even the sun is spiraling around(towards) Alcione...and Alcione around the center of our Milky Way galaxy and ...and our galaxy around another greater galaxy and that one around the center of this local universe and this local universe is also spiraling together wit some other three universes towards a WAAAAAY BIGER AND GREATER CENTRAL UNIVERSE...Now, what about that view...if you can grasp it?!...
zalmos12 2 months ago
finally
something that can explain time
thx for sharing
mohammadz0z0 2 months ago
And this motion is relative to what? One could construct a model where the reference point is moving away from the solar system radially in (near) the plane of the planets' orbits, or any other direction, for that matter.
shideg 4 months ago
This model answers a lot more questions for me then the current model. My "why don't we see the stars in different positions each night?" question was answered by Anubis. The vastness of space is intangible and down right mind boggling. Beautiful vortex moving to the light taking us home.
cavenin 4 months ago
This is actually known to modern astronomy, but not given much significance, which is a major error. The shift in viewing solar system motions as a spiral, rather than a closed circle, is even more significant than the shift from the original view of Copernican perfect circles to Keplerian elipses. The first natural scientist to detail the issues was Wilhelm Reich, in the book "Cosmic Superimposition". Interestingly, that book was literally banned and burned in the USA, by the FDA.
naturalenergyworks 4 months ago 6
we are following the small black sun...
LaRuinadhtattookoeln 1 year ago
Awesome
Dustencumbie 1 year ago
How do we still see the same neighbor stars around us if our solar system is moving like that?
qezart 1 year ago
@qezart
Because even though our Sun and solar system is moving at thousands of miles per hour, even the nearest other stars are hundreds of thousands of light years away. we could travel for millennia and not run into anything, or see any difference in the night sky.
Its the same effect for earth. Earth travels at thousands of miles per hour, but it still takes 365 days to move around the sun once. The distances are so astronomical that it doesnt seem like we're moving at all. Understand?
Anubis7169 1 year ago
@Anubis7169 got it thanks
qezart 1 year ago
@qezart The answer to your question is simple. The sun doesn't goes anywhere it wants. It has its own specific orbit(around the twelve constellations) it goes on. It takes 26,000 years for the sun to complete one round.
SmartBoy2567 2 months ago
@SmartBoy2567 Now Smartboy, that was not too smart!! U need to brush up on ur basic astronomy.
tampicokeed 2 months ago
so beautiful! the spiral
PortalToAscension 1 year ago
hehe the funniest thing is that I knew this ever since I was a little child.
Only now I begin to see it being promoted all over the net.
TheWayshower1982 1 year ago
nice its like a DNA spiral
delidani 1 year ago 9
@delidani Fibbanochi actually.
YamiPoyo 3 months ago
@delidani known as 1.618 phi known as the golden ratio.
ToxinZero286 1 month ago
Oh my gosh! SO COOL! Thanks for that,
Love, Light and Music from me,
David
daveButcher 1 year ago