The Mystery Of Easter Island - Part 4

[nowak93]

History will repeat itself.

[LordJummy]

@dylanx1012 except we would leave behind TONS of technology and BOOKS. So...it would really be absolutely nothing like easter island, would it?

[LordJummy]

Seems really implausible that they cut them all down...

[nicelogin2]

Something is not right. If the island was once filled with trees, and if the islanders had been cutting the trees, then where were the wood crowns? It was at around 1600s that they started cutting trees, I bet at least some percentage of the millions of wood crowns might still be on the ground to this day. There is no way that they can't find signs of root systems in a mere 400 years. If scientists can find pollen in the clay, I don't see why they can't find pieces of root fragments as well.

[sci3ntologist]

Maybe There was a great fire that could have ruined the whole island?

because you would think that they would have already had boats to begin with?

What happened to those?

[hastalueguito]

WE are doing this same thing to the whole world. Let's stop it, now!! love to everyone

[danielfb]

Funny. Dutch are among the first people reaching the island. There's a fungus infection, called Dutch elm disease. It is killing almost all the elms in Europe. Couldn't it be a fungus infection that killed all the trees? In such small island the transmission rate would be very high.

[darvinnful]

The reason of what happened in this remote island is just a hidden message to let us know which mankind's fate will be.

[tronfunkinblow100]

they just assume that it was humans that took the trees down and not a lightning strike that caused a fire? hmm....

[timmythevoe]

@tronfunkinblow100 If it was a lighting strike that started a giant fire, there would be charred remains covering the island.

[panic1844]

well what happend to all the wood they had chopped? They could of reused it to build canoes....

[ElGuitaristo79]

Have they ever thought about a big fire burning down the last trees maybe? Or a big tsunami maybe who pulled down the giant figures?

[yellowfever4]

lmfao the twats!

[7judas77]

what a shock. Are there any programs made anymore that they don't work in preaching a sermon about global warming/'we're killing our planet' bullcrap?

[grecko3]

@7judas77 You misunderstand the point. It's not about ecology but about resources and the fact that the people mismanaged the little resources they had to terrible consequence. Today of course there are still examples of ecological mismanagement, but that is not the real problem facing us now. The problem we are facing is the depletion of our most important resources such as metals, minerals, oil etc. which we are using up at an ever increasing rate. So the analogy is in a sense very accurate.

[adsalazar12]

"Easter Island is isolated in the pacific, like Earth is isolated in space" : Scaryyyyyy analogy

[corrleone]

agree with lot of ppl here.... we are doing the same thing to the entire planet. Self destructing it by more cars, more air conditioners, more electronics, hell lotta wastage and use and through mentality.

[TheBradmans]

polynesians had totem symbols . tiki from new zealand that represented something about their society. the bird men carvings could be the symbol of the ruling tribe.over ten thousand years it would be hard to defoliate a big island, fire or disease is another idea. egyptians built all the pyramids and supported a big culture and still had trees left in a desert.

[Apaleutos24]

And what's the outcome of the above video? In my opinion (and may be I am wrong) that was a mini-scale prophetical sign of what it would become the world at the end of the 20th century beginning of the 21st century. I hope everything would turn to be alright afterwards.

[Crazyfuqndude]

What happend to the easter islanders? We dont know. Its a mystery plain and simple. I cant stand scientists that make facts based on theory.

[lydiaz69]

Were obsessed with the past and reaching our god(s).apparently its always been like that.

[supery00n]

The consequences of worshipping the past and not preparing for the future.

[todengine]

No we are not. Don't buy into the environmentalist propaganda. We've learned from our mistakes and at least in the US we practice land management, planting new trees to replace those cut down.

[Nina513]

Total deforestation....

Let's count how many western explorers practiced this when they came to the Americas...too many to name. This had nothing to do with there God's....If so, who's to blame for the ecological problems that we are dealing with today all around the world?

[TheMethadoneParty]

it wasn't ecological problem, it was faith in a false God or Gods that failed them. The Dutch should have given them bibles lol

[crunchies14]

I dont think it was necessarily palm trees ...

[PassionVue1]

very nice story........ this will happen to us now days. we design nuclear to destory ourself and we don't realies that......... for real.

[sewagedweller]

@PassionVue1 dont have to worry about nukes , Chernobyl is a wild life paradise now . Just because humans will die doesn't mean Earth will follow .

[breathless46]

If a crisis happened 100 years prior to the Dutch arriving... that is only 2-3 generations. Wouldn't the inhabitants oral narratives have contained something more than scant references. Could the survivors have decided to carry on stories of that time? Such violent time could have wiped everyone out. So even a cautionary tale of getting along and protecting the environment would have existed.

[EbayFigureReviews777]

I dont belive the part about the trees. I think even cave people would be smarter than that to not use them all. Im wondering if those craters are from meteors. they would have engulfed the trees in flames. I still have yet to see a documentary that goes over those craters.

[stillnessONtheWAY]

@EbayFigureReviews777

Same here. I dont buy it.

This sounds just like all other propaganda bullshit being shown on tv. Global warming man made blah blah blah...

[treefrog2108]

@stillnessONtheWAY Im with ya on that.

[sewagedweller]

@stillnessONtheWAY yes im sure environmental devastation is a pure lie . Sir if we ever meet in person i will personally castrate to , to limit your stupidity passing onto next generation .

[crunchies14]

@sewagedweller

I think it is very possible an outside force could have possibly done this. There are Many reasons for lack of trees. I do not think any can sompletely wipe out a whole island of trees... It is proven that so called "discoveries of new land and obbsession to converse one religion into the other even if it means killing, torturing, etc.) It has to have been the act of an outside force! = no conversion, killing spree! differences, killing spree,.

[sewagedweller]

@EbayFigureReviews777 meteorite strong enough to destroy every tree on the island would have killed every human on the island . Then again why im telling this to a retard like you ?

[PraiseDog]

From Jared Diamond....what words did the inhabitant of Easter Island say when he cut down the last Palm Tree? (1) "Jobs, not Trees!!!!", or (2) "Don't worry, technology will solve our problems, we will find a substitute for wood", or (3) "There may be other trees on Easter Island that we have not found yet, we need to do more research, the ban on logging is premature, it is all just fear mongering."

[mrstorky]

what these people made is a good metaphore for today's oil use. Everyone knows that carbon emissions will bring the end to our earth, but norwegians are happier cause they found new oil reserves in their land

[luisvuofh]

you see once again religion help man fail lol in life

[gdbdie]

@luisvuofh

no, its the selfishness and ignorance of mankind that put themselves into this hell

who was driven by "religion" when making the tallest buildings nowadays?

stop blaming others babe

[luisvuofh]

what religion has caused alot of problems not saying it hasnt done any good but look at the world today as you said it look it hate religion its a bunch of bullshit to a certain point but im not saying i dont believe in god, im saying I dont give a shit about religion. because i can pray all day all week all month and I still wont win the lottery but hey it doesnt work that way right (religion) lol

[N00bcrunch3r]

@luisvuofh

How can you believe in a god, but say religion is bull?

[N00bcrunch3r]

@luisvuofh

What did this have to do with religion? They were destroyed by the greed of statue building, not religion.

[LamaarTheHeadcrab]

This is just like today! They ruint nature to buíld there statues, we ruint nature to build our houses and factories. All destruction on earth is basicly man-made. I'm just saying

[anotherelvis]

Some people, such as Jared Diamond, suggest that the Easter Islanders had used their palm trees for firewood. After all you need wood to make fires. But of course that still makes the disaster man made.

[ccyndi1]

ok so why don't u test that out? Try and live for a month fishing with reeds and see how you fare.

[ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR]

Clever comment ccyndi1 but I didn't say fishing with reeds did I? Anyway, they obviously had certain means of living unknown to us and I never claimed that I could replicate those means.

[ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR]

They say there was nothing to make a boat out of but it is known that there were reeds around the lake in the volcanic crater. Anyway, could they not have caught fish from the edge of some shore of the island the way you would from a riverbank?

[SeleneMoon]

Not possible, fish live on reef, and the closest reef was over 300 miles away, and they simply didn't have the technology for deep sea fishing. (We barely do.)

[ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR]

So when there were fish, you are trying to tell me that they would paddle out 300 MILES on a regular basis to get fish? Excuse me if that sounds a little incredible. Not all marine life lives of coral reefs.

[SeleneMoon]

The marine life they had the ability to catch did, and they were great seafarers. But they didn't just rely on fish. There was virutually no protein on the island, so they brought with them chickens, yams and rats. And if you consider that the closest island was over 2,000 miles away. 300 miles is not to terribly far to travel. (In case you're worried about my information, I'm in the middle of an archeology class and we just went over this.)

[ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR]

You seem to be concerned about my information also SeleneMoon and I have also studied this subject somewhat. Regardless of how far the closest land is to Easter Island (and I am aware of this by the way) 300 miles is still a very very very long way for a fishing trip, please get this into context. As for the protein available on the island, that is not a matter I am disputing although you seem to have overlooked the fact that they did grow sweet potatoes there.

[SeleneMoon]

I included yams. Sweet potatoes is not a reason to invalidate my whole argument.

[ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR]

I wasn't trying to invalidate your argument with that point. As I said, I was not debating that particular issue. The 300 mile theory is the one I have a problem with. To be honest, most of your other points are sound enough..

[SeleneMoon]

I know the 300 mile thing seems far fetched, but there aren't any other reefs in the area, or evidence of other reefs that may have been since destroyed. It's the way the island was formed. There were not any gentle slopes in the water. It was all very steep and abrupt. (Am I making any sense? Cause I'm catching a cold and am not sure I'm being entirely clear.)

[Toymit]

Theres not much coral in the waters surrounding the island and fish need coral to prospur.The Easter Islanders once had a diet of Tuna and Porpoises which are generally found out at sea in deeper water.They could fish for them when they had trees to build canoes but once the trees were gone so to the capability to catch tuna etc...

[daviscass]

who told them there are no trees??? Did they ever go there??? it's like any other island, one side is dry and the other is tropical... i guess they need to make it dramatic for TV

[rodstartube]

do acid

[SeleneMoon]

There are no trees now, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest that the island was once covered in trees.

[darkstorm98]

my question is what happened to all the logs that they had cut down? did they burn them? why didnt they just reuse all the logs?

[SeleneMoon]

They probably did, but after years of use even the best log would become useless.

[ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR]

I would also urge you to keep your mind open whilst engaging in your studies & bear in mind that the system used to filter information down to you is not a flawless reservoir of straight facts & reliable information. Much of what is taught is theory disguised as fact & if any education system had all the correct information at their disposal there would never be any room for debate on any subject. Not to sound patronising but through first & second hand experience I know this to be the case.

[SeleneMoon]

I'm aware of this, but another thing to keep in mind is logic. Most of what is being proposed is logic based.

[ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR]

I don't disagree with that Selene. Logic is vital, of course. The interesting thing is though, that western logic is not necessarily the same as that of other cultures! And Vice-Versa. But don't get me wrong - I am not trying to be difficult with you or trump you in any way, I just enjoy these kinds of civilized debates. I find them healthy. Peace and best wishes to you.

[SeleneMoon]

Me too, I find most of these theories interesting. I just wish that we knew a bit more so that some of the more foolish theories would be invalidated. (I mean, they walked there? Really? That doesn't really make any sense.)

[buckfushes]

Our Earth is like an Island in the Universe, and We're doing the same thing the Easter Islanders did to their island.

CAPITALISM has accelerated this Process exponentially.

[hollywoodartchick]

I was thinking the exact same thing.  Everybody just does the "job" that gives them the short-term but necessary rewards. It is not anyone's "job" to oversee and manage the whole, so nobody does anything about the big picture.

[supertact1]

the same thing is happening to the world

[outrageousmusic]

wow! so true

[concain]

@supertact1 not where I live

[rusharonij]

so the only question i have is, how did they make spears if they already deforested thier island?

[forallmoods]

this is an amazing documentary, I've read about my Rapa Nui cousins (I'm Kanaka Maol'i). It's too bad they had no way of leaving the Island, I bet if they sailed to Hawai'i Nui we would welcome them.

[hollywoodartchick]

Do you think that perhaps some may have before the island really fell into chaos?

[KupoKupoo]

The theory that it was all the Rapa Nui fault is actually controversial. Some believe that the deforestation was caused by the rats they brought (they ate fruit and palm nuts which were needed to regenerate the forest)

[Inflaexxkai]

i kno this is off topic guys but at 6:25 you can see optimus prime from transformers

[CheapRobot]

what about a parasite that killed off the palm trees?

[Rsalex6670]

idiots, you can re-use palm tree's over and over again for travels, also what happened to all the palm tree's? there where so many palm trees it was unbeleivable, so they cut down the trees for traveling the statues right? but then they could of use the trees for more travels... but what happens to the tree after the people are done using it? Wouldn't it still remain on the island and grow more palm trees? They probably burned or did something stupid with the palm trees... DUMB FUCKING PEOPLE

[lunaehmaz]

The trees are basically ruined when used for moving the statues. They bust apart and aren't reusable for that nor making boats. Least that's what I saw in another video :)

[hellohal3]

erm this is shitlodes of tons of rough rock on a tree trunk its obviaslly going to fuck it up

[Toymit]

When the rocks they were moving weighed in the hundreds of tons,there is no tree that can survive that punishment,wouldve broke like twigs on one travel alone.

[dcprotests]

What's worse, Easter Island's statues, or the 'statues' of New York? How many trees are in New York? This island reminds me of "The Lorax" by Dr. Suess. The United States is next.

[jimmsy2000]

No tree stumps in the ground, from the exhausted palms? i doubt they pulled them from their roots... c'mon...

I looked into this island because i saw Ancient aliens on the History Channel, recently... also look into Nazca, Peru.

[gryzman]

such a stupid conclusion.

Surely, you can reuse trees for transporations - that's one.

Two - trees regrow you know, especially palm trees pretty quick.

[Toymit]

Rats!....The rats the settlers brought with them wouldve had a huge impact on tree 'regrowth' just like the human counter-part had with the living trees at the time.

[514Archives]

5:46 = SO SO TRUE!!!

[Cheehoo9]

this scientist are freaken stupid....YOU DONT MAKE A CANOE WITH A PALM TREE......SHIT......THEY MAKE WITH THIS OTHER TREE......I FORGOT WHAT THEY CALL IT.....

[Dezzan]

Im pretty sure you can make a canoe out of a palm tree...or atleast somekind of boat

[Cheehoo9]

TonganSoljah63......youre right man.....white people comes with there guns...fuck..

[Grimmreaper0000]

lol i can see how this vid. reminds you of a dr. suess book

[tallent003]

This whole disaster of Easter Island reminds me of "The Lorax."

[mercurius0]

Then so are we for doing the same thing with our planet.

[sachisarang]

Oh really? Well then, tell that to yourself and the world we live in today. Don't talk about stupidity when you probably aren't doing anything to help out what the world is starting to come to. Educate yourself.

[TonganSoIja63]

What they said about there society going against each other is just a theory you dumb ass. White people came with there guns and slaved them and lied about history and said they did it to there selves..

[Bleakism]

there wasnt only black slaves so dont trying pulling that into it, the slave trade exitisted along time before they starting taking people from africa.

[TonganSoIja63]

what are you talking about?

[Bleakism]

your trying to say that white people love to enslave the darker races of the world that isnt true, saying that white people are lying about history, what are you talking about

[anabolicErik]

I am sure you are alot smarter. Lol