im from norway and healthcare is boss. americans say things will get more expensive cuse of taxes? uhm norway is a very socialist country and no one is realy poor. if you want a job you can have one.
This bill is just another reminder that the democrats and republicans are slowing down the progress of our country with their imature fighting. If this country was lead by people who had the knowledge of a 40 but the mind as simple as a 10 year old, we'd be far more advanced in our country. Because 10 year try to find the quickest way out of a situation and 40 yearolds have experience.
I hope you all realize that free...isn't FREE. Guess what it means when the bill really goes into effect in 2014...TAXES! Taxes, taxes and more taxes...thanks people for voting in a 4.3 TRILLION DOLLAR health care bill and making the national debt go even much higher than before...great. thanks to those bimbos in Washington! I thank all of you from the bottom of my heart...now why don't you all stick your heads up your own asses and stop acting like a bunch of 3 YEARS OLDS! All they do is fight!
I just realized how we can show 'the man' they serve us and not the other way around. If everyone, or atleast most of everyone, doesn't pay taxes then the government will run out of funding.Then they will beg like a four year old that wants a cookie really bad. Then we make our demands of what we want without them trying to tell us what we want. This way Uncle Sam will remember who's really incharge and we get the health care we want. My demand............... Palin can't be in politics...EVER!!!
I don't know, I personally like it, but it definitely does not follow what America was built on. Freedom. And either way, all the politicians are completely full of shit and then some.
@SentinelPhoenix Here's a good statement to reply to, yes, you can have freedom, but what kind of freedom do you want? Certain freedoms must be directed, other freedoms you can get by paying a price. If everything was founded on complete freedom our society as we know it wouldn't exist.
I remember watching one of those debates a while ago and hearing these grown adults booing eachother. All i could do was laugh to myself. Is this what our country has come to?
Jeremy, u blatantly and shamelessly yet effortlessly quoted the John Woo gun-fu shootem up extravaganza "Face Off" which earned u props in my book. As an ancestor of mine once so aptly put it, all politicians are thieves, the only difference is Republicans and Democrats are thieves who were taught to share by taking turns plundering the national cookie jar every four years.
It's been about half a year since the bill passed. Has anybody finished reading the damn thing yet? I'm against it since I know it was pushed through too fast, but has anybody figured out what we have signed yet? I loved the people who said the bill was amazing/going to destroy America because I wished I could ask them if they could prove it. There's no way they could.
This is a great idea. I know hes not the first, but I just love how neutral he is. He's not preaching his beliefs, hes not discracing a single party, he's asking for our opinions. Even if he doesnt read a single one of these replies, I think its the best take on this bill yet.
guys it takes about ten years for a long term economic plan to take effect you won't really know the out come of obama's economic stimulus package or whatever until about 2019 - 2025 so why condemn it, other then for the sake of political BS.
though it seems like it would be easier to just destroy the entire convoluted economic system of the U.S and just Make a new one that's easier to calculate and easier to gain money from.
Im not american, but my understanding of the healthe care reform was that they wanted to have a system similar to the UK where, basically everyone gets free healthcare more or less...basic healthcare...i don't really see what the problem with that is? sure you might have to pay a few mored $ to the tax but if it's like England it won't be that much...i work 5 nights a week in England, this entire year my National Insurance conrtibution has been around....£200...so not much really about £3 aweek
Arguement Part 2 by CrustyTallion: Less people = less spending. Let's bring back our American made products. Like I'm pretty sure everything including the toilet paper we wipe our asses is made somewhere in some third world country. Made in America = money in American's pockets = healthcare. My final solution is well.....just get rid of our government officials that just sit on their asses and line their god forsaken pockets. People looking to benefit themselves do not = American prosperity.
Arguement Part 1 by CrustyTallion: Against!!!!! I'm not for any political party and they should just screwed this country like Tiger Woods screwed everyone within a 10 mile square radius of his home. Just stop spending money for the love of all that's good! I could throw money at a problem but then again that's not gonna do much if you don't do shit to back it up. Here's an idea how about we stop the 1312 trillion people crossing the border every hour.
It's so funny how Obama is called a communist for a healthcare reform that is still a billion lightyears away from what we have in europe.
WAKE UP AMERICA THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD IS SOCIALIST !!!! (yeah, maybe at the exception of the russian federation, who was forced by you guys into an ultraliberal crap after 91 while gorbatchev wanted a european style socialism...)
Brought to you from Belgium - Homeland of socialism and all the awesome in the world :)
@Dja05 *claps* When they say socialism in the U.S. they really mean Communism. Americans, there's a spectrum here!
I find it strange that they're happy to hand power over to the rich who they may not even know, taking it away from people who they have direct power over every four yeas. It's sort of like taking guns away from your bodyguards because they occasionally do stupid shit, and giving them to complete strangers. Yeah because they wont also do stupid shit.
@Dja05 Sorry to be pedantic but Obama will be arguging it a part of Welfare Liberalism which believes in a saftey net for people who fall out the captialism system like the poor, so although also a social democrat policy but it is also a liberal one to.
Thank you Britiish education I recieve from up north lol.
this healthcare bill is a bad idea. It not only gives government more control over the American people, it will cost over 170 billion dollars more than what was previously anticipated and stated by Obama. He said that it would save the American people more than 100 billion dollars, now it's costing us over 70 billion. Just one of many of Obama's stupid ideas.
I was for the health care bill, however I wish democrats had pushed more for a public option. Democrats constantly tried to comprise, and progressively made the bill more and more conservative, all to win over a grand total of ZERO republican votes. So, I'm disappointed that there is no public option, and also disappointed over the fact that single payer wasn't even seriously discussed. But, I think that this bill is better than nothing, and an improvement over what we have now.
Couldn't care leas we have had public health system in Norway for many years. Works great! I can break my leg and not go bankrupt, but don't get any ideas Jeremy!
Did you know the number one dropper of insurance is Medicare. It has all the money of the USA to support it. It has all the benefits of all the corporations and it isn't taxed by the government. Everyone in the USA that pays taxes gives some money to it even if they don't use it. So it money has never been the issue. It doesn't even have lawyers to protect it. Also, why trust them sense they are like death's touch to anything they touch, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security bankrupt.
step in right direction sure but not wat i belive most americans want aka middle/lower class... i belive this bill should have made a goverment run ver giving atleast min benifits cause from wat i heard health care providers have thier lawyers trying to pick apart every single loop hole plausable in it from who you have to cover to how much coverage ur required to give
Well, we'll find what the majority of your subscribers think, anyway! Congress exempted themselves from the bill, as they have with so many other bills, so they know something we don't. Mandatory for us; exempt for them; THAT tells me we don't want it. I don't have health care, but I'd rather hang out on that limb than get something short-term that kills us in the end. Please don't boo me.
I wanted universal healthcare but leave it to the U. S. government to screw it up. I'm sure that most, if not all, of the people who said they wanted universal healthcare before the last election meant that they wanted the government to provide healthcare to it's citizens not to be forced to buy health insurance that they probably can't afford. That's not my Idea of universal healthcare. So, my answer is no I'm not happy with it.
Yes it tends to be the rich elite 'republican' or more acurately conservative canadians that go to the states for what you call 'proper health care'. The majority of us like the fact that if we break our leg or need necessary surgery we won't be raped with charges for it. I've known more than one person who needed life saving medical attention who wouldn't have been able to afford it in the states. The reform is a good thing, it allows for everyone to have health care without descrimination.
Im from the UK and i think its a step in the right direction. If it means millions of Americans have easier access to the healthcare they deserve (which it does), the healthcare reform bill would get my vote.
A law that forces people to BUY private health insurance. All that's going to do is enrich the healthcare corporations, force those who couldn't afford it to spend more of their money, and raise the rates of those who already have health insurance. This is not the safety net that the American people need. This is a power grab to sieze more control over our lives by both big government and big business.
I was for National Health Insurance. I originally thought that was what was going on. But making it a law that everyone has to buy health insurance isn't National Health Insurance. It's just another limitation on our ever dwindling freedom. I feel stupid for believing our sham government would ever think about the poor.
I think the Health Care system needs reform but Not like this. They are not listening to the people. They work for us not the other way around.... They should listen to the people on this. We dont want it like this... changed it..
The Health Care Bill = Law: you're required to give direct access to your banking acct. and required to have an acct. Any of the 6 B people in the world can receive free health care. You will start paying $4,000 a yr to the IRS. Over 65 and pain medication is the only care you're eligible for. No more cancer treatments. Gov will decide what your children can and cannot major in in college.
im from canada and can't believe how much republicians hate the health care bill even though the health care in the US is absolute garbage. A reform is more than needed it's so bad that it was necessary to pass it.
@prophetofgreed dude, that is totall bs, i keep hearing stories that canadians have to come to the US just to seek proper health care treatment. wander why? because its privatly owned no government control...look around you, besides the military, policemen, and other public service personel. give me some government run programs that were not ment to be for the government to run, was actually successful? but anyways your not from US with all due respect so it doesnt really matter
I think that this healthcare bill is kinda good. I mean, people can stay on their parents healthcare till they are 26 (yes!), but at the same time, you have to pay a fine in 2014 if you don't have the healthcare. Nevertheless, I think that it's worth it.
Im forrrrr it all the way. It increases the need for bigger hospitals and more JOBS across the U.S. I have already told my sisters and friends to consider getting a Nurses license because hospitals as a risk assessment, risk analysis and risk management factor will hire more staff to facilitate their needs to take care of more patients.
Look at it this way: the Obama Administration is seizing businesses all across America -- they are grabbing up our economy in order for the GOVERNMENT ITSELF to make money! Now what the hell does the government want money for? Votes. It's a simple as that.
Votes = more power = Dems get elected to do whatever they want = the people take a backseat to power-hungry douchebags.
Obama is running this country like he's a King. What he and his czars are doing is extremely scary.
Actually to be honest the HST plan is not a bad idea. The main problem that I see is that our social programs like health care and public schooling is going to suffer in Ontario because the ON gov't is going to lose revenue. The HST effectively merges with PST and eliminates GST. It is supposed to create a lot of jobs and reduce taxes (even exempting things like tax on gasoline). It is very complicated to set up and might cost the gov't more for administration in the beginning.
Also, it replaces PST and merges with GST. My brain is just not working today. Basically everything stays about the same, we will just have one tax that replaces the two others.
This is going to be bad in the long run. I heard the other day that:
"we should have universal healthcare and the current bill is at least moving in the right direction. Look at all the other big countries, they all have universal healthcare"
My point... YEAH LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES. European countries are going bankrupt! Why is that I wonder? hmmm... maybe b/c of healthcare cost?
LOOK at US. We're the leading economic country in the world!
@dominoes127 Yea but we ain't the ones being bailed out like Greece,and Spain because we have enough GOP to support it. However, I think that this healthcare bill will push us over the edge. Then the only ones that can bail us out will be the Chinese (or several European Countries).
@church348 You are the stupidest person on youtube! What about all that money our dumb former President Bush wasted on his damn Iraq war on Military spending not long ago? That placed us in debt because we've spent trillions of dollars sending our troops there, fighting against the country that didn't attack us on 9/11. So shut the fucking fuck up about Pres Obama wasting money on bailouts, which you claim placed us in debt! Don't even respond to me if you're going to send a negative response.
@dreidwaxhaw you do realize that Obama's stimulus package alone has cost more then the entire Iraq war. and that isnt counting all the other giant wastes of money his administration has done
I think our health care should have better slogans. 3 out of 4 communist regime dictators give it 2 thumbs up! Do like Uncle Fidel does, and support this legislation! Hey, just think, you get to pay for a sex offender to get viagra! That would make this a far better sell!
I think it is funny that people want to demonize big bad insurance companies for bringing in obscene profits, when in actuality the numbers only lead to about a 4% margin. Coke on the other hand brings in a whopping 18%, so where is the witch hunt on them? The bill unfortunately doesn't help at all with costs. Want to lower costs? How about allowing the purchase of insurance across state lines or... I dunno... Tort reform? Nope. Guess we are going the government takeover route. *Sigh*
We are in a recession, and need more jobs, this bill will take the jobs of lots of doctors and send them out the window. And it will make the debt bigger. I am not happy at all.
I love it, it has to be done. This is what will save America, it would have been perfect if Bill Clinton (Hillary) could have passed the bill, so the insurance company would not able to suck America dry till now.
my problem isn't necessarily with the paying for other people's health care part (kind of, but not the biggest problem.) my problem with the bill is that we just simply don't have enough doctors and nurses to take care of the people who have health care NOW..much less the millions more who will be added to health care because of the bill. health care for everyone would be an awesome thing..but at least wait until we have enough doctors and nurses to take care of everyone.
Wow. It would be nice if people could look at problems objectively and consider solutions that would benefit everyone instead of just worrying about how one is affected individually. Universal health insurance is a good idea. If it can keep less from being at work sick or at grocery stores spreading diseases I'm all for it. So far hardly nothing has changed though. What we really need is to educate properly on preventative healthcare.
It's true, there is no free healthcare. But in our universal healthcare, in Bulgaria, we all pay about 10$ a month for health insuranse. So, these people, who can't currently pay under the USA system, will be able to pay under the universal healthcare system. That way, they will pay for your healthcare too and everybody will help each other out. In my country, if somebody doesn't pay these 10$, they don't get covered.
I'm pretty happy I'm not under the inhumane USA healthcare system.
@Ivanntu but it is not the same universal healthcare. the pricess are jacked up and also there is a slightly larger number of people in the US then in Bulgaria, so that in of it's self means the price will be far higher, and if we dont pay then they put us in jail for tax evasion, and if you choose not to have it then you get fined a rediculously high amount of money.
@Ivanntu what europeans and canadians need to realize is that this is not the same universal healthcare that you have. there is also other crap in it that doesnt need to be in it that will jack up the prices, such as how the government now controls student loans due to this bill, so that means even more taxes
I understand your concern. But according to statistics, the USA spends the most money on person for healthcare than any other country in the world(something like 7000$!). Canada is second and they even spend twice less. Can't something be done about that fact? I mean, even with all that money spend, a lot of people are uninsured or get their coverage dropped when they need it, because of some stupid reason.
Can't, somehow, less money be spend on a person for healthcare?
@Ivanntu my concern is that it will cause the spending to be even higher, and also i dont like the federal government using power that it does not legaly have, under the American constitution the federal gov't doesnt have the right to force people to buy anything, whether its healthcare, guns, shoes. they arent ment to be able to do this
@church348 Under the American constitution you shouldn't have to pay taxes of any kind. I can understand not wanting the government to control what you eat or wear but making sure everyone has healthcare (including people who CAN'T pay taxes for it) is on the level and, really I don't see any indication that controlling healthcare will lead to controlling everything else.
@Ivanntu and once they start demanding that you buy healthcare, how long until they demand what type of car you drive, what type of food you eat, what shows on tv you are allowed to wacth, what websites you are allowed to go on. i dont want to see my America turn into the USSR, or the people's republic of china. Absolute power corrupts absolutly
Don't worry about that at all! The USA is NEVER going to become anything like the USSR. My country was a communist one and I know perfectly well what communism, socialism and big government are.
Anyway, I think there are some countries in western Europe where you have to buy healthcare, but it's affordable for everybody. So I think that the USA should find some way to decrease spending money per person for healthcare. That may save some money.
I am from Bulgaria, a country in Eastern Europe. I hate communism and socialism. But I also see a lot of Americans don't know what exactly socialism is.
Even when my country was under socialism, everybody could drive the car they want, eat what they want, watch what they want and go where they want. The problem was there was a huge shortage in stocks. For example, little variety of food, just a couple of type of cars and like 2 or 3 channels on TV.
@Ivanntu the vast majority of americans dont like big government, the government allready controls are car industry now, thats what those "bailouts" were about taking control of the auto industry, they now have control over student loans, they are taking over the economy more and more, and the american people dont like it. and yes most people dont know what it means, they just know it is something bad and yet our president likes it
Congratulations for the reform America! I just still don't get why are people in the USA so afraid of universal healthcare?
In my country, Bulgaria, we have universal healthcare. Although we have bad conditions in some hospitals, the health insuranse costs 10$ a month and everybody can afford it.
Conservatives like Hannity and Limbaugh are lying, I'd much rather stick with our problematic ,,socialized medicine" than the American inhumane and monstreous system.
I want free health Care, but this bill is not it. And I think the part that add insult to injury is the 'EVERYONE MUST BE COVERED OTHERWISE THEY PAY A PENALTY' what ever that means.
My employer does not pay for health insurance, hell he can barely make payroll. But because he has less than 50 employees, I have to now pay to go with out health which I can't afford already.
If this bill was like Canada's or England's then I would be on board, but it's not a help, it's punishment!
I don't understand what the problem is, do you not want to have access to a doctor. Americans are so patriotic and go on about being oppressed by 'the man', but you don't seem to want to lift a finger for someone who isn't yourself. As a Brit I'm coming to this argument with Bias, out National Health System works (to a degree) and we can't understand why you lot don't want to work towards having your own free healthcare.
@batmanofni because it isn't free, the taxes pay for it, and not just for your own healthcare, you have to pay for everybody, including the illegal aliens who dont pay and get it for free. it is also more on that the government is forcing us to buy it. lots of people like 18 to 30 year olds dont think they need it, so they dont get it, but now they are being forced to buy it
@batmanofni people help the less fortunate all the time, but people dont like to be forcred into a charity. also the new taxes from it will make even more of the country so poor that they have be one of the ones who needs charity
I have to point out that the only way we'll find out what a majority of Americans want is to vote in an open and public manner. Fox News polls will only get votes from Fox News watchers. The same applies to MSNBC, CNN, etc. etc. Even Jeremy Jahns is only a sample of the online community. I say that if this is such a major issue and is causing so many problems, we take a vote. And not just on the overall bill, but the different elements of it: insurance, public option, malpractice... everything.
@OriginalityImpaired It's not free health care. At lest not yet. Right now it's nothing like the other countries health care system. the system changed but not tomuch.
most people in this country are too stupid and under informed to make an educated decision on this matter. they just follow what the media says, if they are liberal and msnbc says it is good, then they like it. if they are conservative and fox new say it is bad then they hate it. unless teh american public becomes more/better informed and stop being so damn idealistic then they will never be able to make a good decision. 'well, fox says it is a nazi/socialist plan to kill usall,thereforeihateit'
I'm fairly liberal, so I'm very 50/50 right now. But whats pissing me off is the people that are sitting around bitching and moaning about how this all sucks and how most of the country didn't want it yet no one really does anything about it like I dunno, sit-ins, letters, etc. Not saying people DON'T already do it. But, most of the people I hear whine about it don't put action behind their words to try and change things. They just sit around and wonder why things happen.
it looks to me like they are going to be charging medicare and medicaid TOO MUCH. Might be what the government wants though. Make Medicare and Medicaid go out of buisness so that people over 65 and the disabled will be forced to pay for regular healthcare.
count this as 4 votes cuz my mom dad and my brother as well as me are for this healthcare reform i my not be able to say why they are for it but they said they are
I am for it because i have a epilepsy and i need my healthcare for pills and stuff to survive and i don't think i should be charged extra just because i had the misfortune to be born with epilepsy, there are varous other resons but i can't fit it all in one comment.
The Healthcare reform shouldn't of gotten passed. We elect people to represent the people of America. Did you see the polls? Only like 23% was for this passing. Yet Obama continued to push the bill. We can see he truely listens to us. Well done voting him into office.
Oops... Looks like children are not immediately able to get insurance with pre-existing conditions. It was NOT put into the bill just signed. I guess they just forgot. Need more Hope & Change
the bill they passed was flawed. if they wanted a model to see how government health care should work, they should have looked that the Oregon Health Plan. I am against what they passed.
Why does anyone want to give the most incompetent group of legislators control over every aspect of their lives? I think it's hilarious how Pelosi said, "We need to hurry up and pass this bill so we can open it up and see what's in it!". More like, "We need to hurry up and pass this bill before the American people find out what's in it!". I don't care if this get's thumbed down a million times. I'll call bull-shit when I see it, and I've just spotted a heaping pile of it.
now it might just be because I'm a republican, but that bill looked like it was written by an insurance salesman... i have good friends in the medical field that are probably going to take a financial punch to the gonads because of this bill. I hope they can keep their jobs if they're trying to get 2 people to run an entire office. In pharmaceutics and nursing, that's almost impossible.
I'm all for the bill..especially since in a few short years I would have had to get insurance..but now with the bill passed I can stay on my parents insurance until I am 26..so 6 more years instead of 3 to get my life on track and get a good job (and finish college as well)
it's a ton better for my diabetic sister. this way, if she's unemployed she isn't fucked over by $400 bottles of insulin. Plus, she has 6 more years to stay on my parents.
As a Canadian I think it's amazing that it got passed. They took the screw driver out of my neck, for free. My broken arm, also free, and the one time I needed meds. Those were free aswell. Once you get used to it you'll be happy you can spend 45,000 on a fantastic school or something
I love how people don't support the bill even though they don't know what is in it. From what I read and heard, it was more on regulating health insurance companies and setting things up so doctors don't have to spend so much money one testing someone. There was hardly anything in there about government universal healthcare except that instead people who couldn't get coverage would be put into a high-risk pool to get coverage.
Now I might be wrong, but this is what I got out of what they said.
I Really don't know because i don't know will this Bill effect me. What I do know is that I will be on my moms Health In. until i am 26 so i know I'll still have health care into my adult years. So really It can go both ways. Where do u stand?
The problem with the bill is that it will force you to technically pay to live, that said i don't care about anything else. I don't think it is right to be taxed to live, that in itself is wrong, and is a throwback to everything else about to be taxed in new york. No more taxes no more government regulation. Poor people can be poor , rich people can be rich , and just let everyone else live their lives, regardless of who might call them unhumanitarian.
@NoonSlap What do you mean Pay to live? We already pay premiums to live, also no matter who you are, a bill for 3000 dollars for a catscan is ridiculous considering how long that technology has been out.
You people need to realize that the president is only the messenger in government control. He doesn't do everything, he just gives it the OK. Obama is a good man and has morals people can agree with. I like that this healthcare bill passed, because I think they've spend too much time on it already.
These are all socialist run departments of government that prey on us and yet, i never here any of you right wing lugnuts complain about them. You might try reading the Constitution, specifically the promise to promote the General Welfare. We are watching our crumbling culture brough to the edge of destruction by that contra; "Take Care of Number One" and the hell with everybody else ! Another win for the Globalists !
I also don't support it b/c no one knows enough about it....and no one in congress even read the bill...did these people that run our country graduate from HS?...I personally am terrified b/c I have had 2 close encounters w/ moderate cancer. Both of which I had taken care of....but now what?...What wil happen if I need treatment and have to wait for this fabulous gov. health care to OK me?...they can't even answer that...and Obama has been asked that ques. 1000 times @ press conferences!!
i agree. we never heard anything about this 2000 page bill. obviously tho, while obama has been stealing our money with taxes, he has taken the time to type it in triplaqate. and yes, this bill increases taxes.
@shadowraven12 the bill is 1773 pages, I've read it, and alot of things repubs are saying and pretty much dead wrong, flat out lie. Its a boring ass read, and takes alot time to understand cause its written in D.C double standard, But its worth it.
I'm terrified of it...nor do I support it......not b/c of socialism or government control...but b/c they are going to fine you if you don't buy/ have any health insurance...WTF? ....fine me?....first off....their so called "affordable health care"...isn't affordable AT ALL...its just as much as every other healthcare plan...plus I'm unemployed thanks to this great economy...can I afford to pay for health insurance...NO!!
Health care makes me proud to be canadian. It isn't perfect, but I know, no matter how sick I get, I will always be entitled to healthcare. Americans seem very afraid of it but they also have never had it, so to be afraid of something they have not had is understandable. I am a canadian who lived in the USA for a year, I was incredibly sick and still didn't go to the hospital because I couldn't afford it. I wasn't the only one who did. That is incredibly frightening, What do you think Jeremy?
And for those of you who are right wing -and- believe in god. Take a summary of socialism and a summary of the teachings of the bible and try and tell me that the son of god was not a socialist. =)
(will gladly respond to intelligent questions regarding this issue)
@andreasson That's interesting, can you say why you think of Jesus as a socialist? Any certain accounts that caught your eye? I'm just a bit confused being a kid and all. Like to hear your theory though.
@SorasMemory Your spelling looks fine too me =). We could make this discussion very complex but I don't have the space here or the energy at the moment. But one basic idea that applies to many socialist even today is: The "equality of opportunity" which advocate a society in which there are equal opportunities and life chances for all individuals to maximize their potentials and attain positions in society. This would be made possible by equal access to the necessities of life.
@SorasMemory . Jesus gathered all kinds of people around him but mostly people who did not have equal access to the necessities of life. To put it bluntly. In a capitalistic system the one that happens to have a lot of money also has a lot of power, that person can purchase all of the necessities in life. In a socialistic system wealth (does not only refer to money) is widely distributed to those in need. Whom did Jesus gather around him? People whom had very little. They are worth just as much.
@andreasson Okay nice to hear your view on things. I just wanted to know where you were coming from on that comment, not to get into some debate. I have different views on that certain aspect, but that's okay we're all different. Thanks for answering the question.
Hey all. Swedish guy typing so I might be slightly biased here. As some have already pointed out, health care is a basic right. Imagine being a doctor, someone that has sworn to do all in his or her power to save lives then having to deny people because of insurance problems? We have pretty high taxes in Sweden and I am so happy to pay them. I don't pay for University, I actually get some money for studying. We have universal health-care, good infrastructure, and we take care of people in need.
look at it this way do you want our goverment that cant anything right in charge of our hospitals.
Grunt18xray 3 days ago
okay im english so what is this
Geeksta1998 1 week ago
im from norway and healthcare is boss. americans say things will get more expensive cuse of taxes? uhm norway is a very socialist country and no one is realy poor. if you want a job you can have one.
eirik1234321 3 weeks ago
thank god i live in ireland, oh wait shit
Jayjensen10 1 month ago
This is y i am a jehovahs witness
Th3H4RdC0R3G4M37 1 month ago
To be honest, I believe it is time for all of the politicians to step down.
Alestorm5000 1 month ago
Yellin and screamin in the Australian Parilament is funny as fuck 'Mister speaker' SHut up
Budgiein87 1 month ago in playlist Jeremy's Comedy/Vlogs
Booing happens in the UK parliament as well. They might as well get some foam fingers.
Battle5tarRJC 2 months ago in playlist Jeremy's Comedy/Vlogs
honestly, I don't give a damn. Because I'm not rich but im not poor so idc.
Katachi1995 5 months ago in playlist Jeremy's Comedy/Vlogs
This bill is just another reminder that the democrats and republicans are slowing down the progress of our country with their imature fighting. If this country was lead by people who had the knowledge of a 40 but the mind as simple as a 10 year old, we'd be far more advanced in our country. Because 10 year try to find the quickest way out of a situation and 40 yearolds have experience.
MJFrodo 5 months ago
Canada as had a free health care system since around the 1940’s, it is about time that the US adopted it.
Wexter0083 5 months ago
I hope you all realize that free...isn't FREE. Guess what it means when the bill really goes into effect in 2014...TAXES! Taxes, taxes and more taxes...thanks people for voting in a 4.3 TRILLION DOLLAR health care bill and making the national debt go even much higher than before...great. thanks to those bimbos in Washington! I thank all of you from the bottom of my heart...now why don't you all stick your heads up your own asses and stop acting like a bunch of 3 YEARS OLDS! All they do is fight!
lilangelx09 5 months ago
democrat....republican....same imature person who always think's there right....different reason that that person think's there right....
iKillZombies4fun115 5 months ago
Well...if there's one good thing to come out of this....Obama's NOT getting America's vote for Re-election.
DarkNeonNightmare 6 months ago
I really don't give a shit. When I get sick I just stuff pills until I get better
unknown9515 8 months ago
I just realized how we can show 'the man' they serve us and not the other way around. If everyone, or atleast most of everyone, doesn't pay taxes then the government will run out of funding.Then they will beg like a four year old that wants a cookie really bad. Then we make our demands of what we want without them trying to tell us what we want. This way Uncle Sam will remember who's really incharge and we get the health care we want. My demand............... Palin can't be in politics...EVER!!!
drnogood59 8 months ago
I don't know, I personally like it, but it definitely does not follow what America was built on. Freedom. And either way, all the politicians are completely full of shit and then some.
SentinelPhoenix 9 months ago
@SentinelPhoenix Here's a good statement to reply to, yes, you can have freedom, but what kind of freedom do you want? Certain freedoms must be directed, other freedoms you can get by paying a price. If everything was founded on complete freedom our society as we know it wouldn't exist.
lich109 8 months ago
up in canada we like our "free" healthcare
stop being afraid of the commies and just look at whether it's a good idea or not
I would say it's great
rich people should be able to loose a little money for the good of the less fortunate.
pyrea17 9 months ago
I'm glad it passed.
And it's not even a small step towards socialism, more like a 1 trillionth of a baby step.
And to me, that's bad.
People don't understand the concept of socialism in health care!
It's a good thing!
Although you're right, both parties are acting like children, and it's sad. We are not impressed you sat next to each other at State of the Union.
Finally, I feel like it's trendy these days to hate something that's widely popular.
Like the health care reform bill, or Inception
swimteamizzle1114 9 months ago
thank god it got passed
darthbriboy 10 months ago
australia has both private and public healthcare. if ameriacns can adopt a similar system to that then i think it would work
wdsa8d 1 year ago
Haha, I live in Britain...we have the NHS =) America should do that.
xBellatrixLestrangex 1 year ago
I remember watching one of those debates a while ago and hearing these grown adults booing eachother. All i could do was laugh to myself. Is this what our country has come to?
TOshow1 1 year ago
Jeremy, u blatantly and shamelessly yet effortlessly quoted the John Woo gun-fu shootem up extravaganza "Face Off" which earned u props in my book. As an ancestor of mine once so aptly put it, all politicians are thieves, the only difference is Republicans and Democrats are thieves who were taught to share by taking turns plundering the national cookie jar every four years.
- The Doctor
IceXMan87 1 year ago 2
Against, especially with all the bullshit that has nothing to do with healthcare in the bill
NendGuy 1 year ago
It's been about half a year since the bill passed. Has anybody finished reading the damn thing yet? I'm against it since I know it was pushed through too fast, but has anybody figured out what we have signed yet? I loved the people who said the bill was amazing/going to destroy America because I wished I could ask them if they could prove it. There's no way they could.
D0CCON 1 year ago 2
If anyone asks me whether I am a Republican or a Democrat, I'll say, "Neither. They're both equally flawed."
FlyingFocs 1 year ago 33
@FlyingFocs oh so true
Grunt18xray 3 days ago
This is a great idea. I know hes not the first, but I just love how neutral he is. He's not preaching his beliefs, hes not discracing a single party, he's asking for our opinions. Even if he doesnt read a single one of these replies, I think its the best take on this bill yet.
sbnemesis77 1 year ago
guys it takes about ten years for a long term economic plan to take effect you won't really know the out come of obama's economic stimulus package or whatever until about 2019 - 2025 so why condemn it, other then for the sake of political BS.
though it seems like it would be easier to just destroy the entire convoluted economic system of the U.S and just Make a new one that's easier to calculate and easier to gain money from.
spawn10317 1 year ago
Im not american, but my understanding of the healthe care reform was that they wanted to have a system similar to the UK where, basically everyone gets free healthcare more or less...basic healthcare...i don't really see what the problem with that is? sure you might have to pay a few mored $ to the tax but if it's like England it won't be that much...i work 5 nights a week in England, this entire year my National Insurance conrtibution has been around....£200...so not much really about £3 aweek
ytrewqasfd 1 year ago
I am not an American but on the subject of Universal healthcare I just wanna say that every Country that calls itself "Democratic" should have it.
alittleolder 1 year ago
Arguement Part 2 by CrustyTallion: Less people = less spending. Let's bring back our American made products. Like I'm pretty sure everything including the toilet paper we wipe our asses is made somewhere in some third world country. Made in America = money in American's pockets = healthcare. My final solution is well.....just get rid of our government officials that just sit on their asses and line their god forsaken pockets. People looking to benefit themselves do not = American prosperity.
CrustyTallion 1 year ago
Arguement Part 1 by CrustyTallion: Against!!!!! I'm not for any political party and they should just screwed this country like Tiger Woods screwed everyone within a 10 mile square radius of his home. Just stop spending money for the love of all that's good! I could throw money at a problem but then again that's not gonna do much if you don't do shit to back it up. Here's an idea how about we stop the 1312 trillion people crossing the border every hour.
CrustyTallion 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I'm from scotland there for i don't give a shit
asgordon98 1 year ago
It's so funny how Obama is called a communist for a healthcare reform that is still a billion lightyears away from what we have in europe.
WAKE UP AMERICA THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD IS SOCIALIST !!!! (yeah, maybe at the exception of the russian federation, who was forced by you guys into an ultraliberal crap after 91 while gorbatchev wanted a european style socialism...)
Brought to you from Belgium - Homeland of socialism and all the awesome in the world :)
Dja05 1 year ago 46
@Dja05 *claps* When they say socialism in the U.S. they really mean Communism. Americans, there's a spectrum here!
I find it strange that they're happy to hand power over to the rich who they may not even know, taking it away from people who they have direct power over every four yeas. It's sort of like taking guns away from your bodyguards because they occasionally do stupid shit, and giving them to complete strangers. Yeah because they wont also do stupid shit.
shraka 1 year ago
@Dja05 also a dude from belgium and I SECOND THIS!!!!
voske44 1 year ago
@Dja05 Sorry to be pedantic but Obama will be arguging it a part of Welfare Liberalism which believes in a saftey net for people who fall out the captialism system like the poor, so although also a social democrat policy but it is also a liberal one to.
Thank you Britiish education I recieve from up north lol.
cupcakesforteatime 11 months ago
@Dja05
I'm sure when those who grew up in the Vietnam era of propaganda pass, we'll finally catch up.
Manofaction0 5 months ago in playlist Jeremy's Comedy/Vlogs
This has been flagged as spam show
@Dja05
I'm sure when those who grew up in the Vietnam era of propaganda pass, we'll finally catch up.
Manofaction0 5 months ago in playlist Jeremy's Comedy/Vlogs
this healthcare bill is a bad idea. It not only gives government more control over the American people, it will cost over 170 billion dollars more than what was previously anticipated and stated by Obama. He said that it would save the American people more than 100 billion dollars, now it's costing us over 70 billion. Just one of many of Obama's stupid ideas.
spiderfingers86 1 year ago
I was for the health care bill, however I wish democrats had pushed more for a public option. Democrats constantly tried to comprise, and progressively made the bill more and more conservative, all to win over a grand total of ZERO republican votes. So, I'm disappointed that there is no public option, and also disappointed over the fact that single payer wasn't even seriously discussed. But, I think that this bill is better than nothing, and an improvement over what we have now.
caffingdu 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@caffingdu There are a lot of people who agree with you.
blitzkriegdragon013 1 year ago
Couldn't care leas we have had public health system in Norway for many years. Works great! I can break my leg and not go bankrupt, but don't get any ideas Jeremy!
MentallyBlown 1 year ago
Did you know the number one dropper of insurance is Medicare. It has all the money of the USA to support it. It has all the benefits of all the corporations and it isn't taxed by the government. Everyone in the USA that pays taxes gives some money to it even if they don't use it. So it money has never been the issue. It doesn't even have lawyers to protect it. Also, why trust them sense they are like death's touch to anything they touch, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security bankrupt.
creativewriter101 1 year ago
step in right direction sure but not wat i belive most americans want aka middle/lower class... i belive this bill should have made a goverment run ver giving atleast min benifits cause from wat i heard health care providers have thier lawyers trying to pick apart every single loop hole plausable in it from who you have to cover to how much coverage ur required to give
jackofblades123rmp 1 year ago
Well, we'll find what the majority of your subscribers think, anyway! Congress exempted themselves from the bill, as they have with so many other bills, so they know something we don't. Mandatory for us; exempt for them; THAT tells me we don't want it. I don't have health care, but I'd rather hang out on that limb than get something short-term that kills us in the end. Please don't boo me.
KnightofMotley 1 year ago
I wanted universal healthcare but leave it to the U. S. government to screw it up. I'm sure that most, if not all, of the people who said they wanted universal healthcare before the last election meant that they wanted the government to provide healthcare to it's citizens not to be forced to buy health insurance that they probably can't afford. That's not my Idea of universal healthcare. So, my answer is no I'm not happy with it.
jocamadad 1 year ago
Yes it tends to be the rich elite 'republican' or more acurately conservative canadians that go to the states for what you call 'proper health care'. The majority of us like the fact that if we break our leg or need necessary surgery we won't be raped with charges for it. I've known more than one person who needed life saving medical attention who wouldn't have been able to afford it in the states. The reform is a good thing, it allows for everyone to have health care without descrimination.
CynnomynPayne 1 year ago
Im from the UK and i think its a step in the right direction. If it means millions of Americans have easier access to the healthcare they deserve (which it does), the healthcare reform bill would get my vote.
disposablegloves123 1 year ago
its is BULLSHIT!
Y0uTub3N00b 1 year ago
A law that forces people to BUY private health insurance. All that's going to do is enrich the healthcare corporations, force those who couldn't afford it to spend more of their money, and raise the rates of those who already have health insurance. This is not the safety net that the American people need. This is a power grab to sieze more control over our lives by both big government and big business.
CrazyP36 1 year ago
I was for National Health Insurance. I originally thought that was what was going on. But making it a law that everyone has to buy health insurance isn't National Health Insurance. It's just another limitation on our ever dwindling freedom. I feel stupid for believing our sham government would ever think about the poor.
Malafede122112 1 year ago
I think the Health Care system needs reform but Not like this. They are not listening to the people. They work for us not the other way around.... They should listen to the people on this. We dont want it like this... changed it..
yourface02 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Someone needs to shoot this SOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ElRipper100 1 year ago
The Health Care Bill = Law: you're required to give direct access to your banking acct. and required to have an acct. Any of the 6 B people in the world can receive free health care. You will start paying $4,000 a yr to the IRS. Over 65 and pain medication is the only care you're eligible for. No more cancer treatments. Gov will decide what your children can and cannot major in in college.
ElRipper100 1 year ago
im from canada and can't believe how much republicians hate the health care bill even though the health care in the US is absolute garbage. A reform is more than needed it's so bad that it was necessary to pass it.
prophetofgreed 1 year ago
@prophetofgreed dude, that is totall bs, i keep hearing stories that canadians have to come to the US just to seek proper health care treatment. wander why? because its privatly owned no government control...look around you, besides the military, policemen, and other public service personel. give me some government run programs that were not ment to be for the government to run, was actually successful? but anyways your not from US with all due respect so it doesnt really matter
jzumbro19 1 year ago
I am personally against the bill. Great vid by the way :)
x123hehex 1 year ago 2
this whole thing makes the US look bad, why wouldnt you want healthcare for all?
tHE UK'S HAD THE nhs SINCE WW2, and we were broke at the time
majorkeybaree 1 year ago
no! look in to a lot of the reforms in the bill that wont take effect till 2014.
Theogren 1 year ago
I think that this healthcare bill is kinda good. I mean, people can stay on their parents healthcare till they are 26 (yes!), but at the same time, you have to pay a fine in 2014 if you don't have the healthcare. Nevertheless, I think that it's worth it.
pugsarenumba1 1 year ago
I'm behind it. It's now passed and it's constitutional I believe. The states trying to block it are just being controlled by moneygrabbing jerks.
Regenmacher175 1 year ago
Im forrrrr it all the way. It increases the need for bigger hospitals and more JOBS across the U.S. I have already told my sisters and friends to consider getting a Nurses license because hospitals as a risk assessment, risk analysis and risk management factor will hire more staff to facilitate their needs to take care of more patients.
omegafury88 1 year ago
If you like Bush so much, lick it.
omegafury88 1 year ago
Look at it this way: the Obama Administration is seizing businesses all across America -- they are grabbing up our economy in order for the GOVERNMENT ITSELF to make money! Now what the hell does the government want money for? Votes. It's a simple as that.
Votes = more power = Dems get elected to do whatever they want = the people take a backseat to power-hungry douchebags.
Obama is running this country like he's a King. What he and his czars are doing is extremely scary.
Jahooba 1 year ago
@Jahooba ROFLMAO!
dreidwaxhaw 1 year ago
@dreidwaxhaw :-)
Jahooba 1 year ago
I'm for it, but the bill isn't really solid.
summerluv21xD 1 year ago
All I have to say is... canada rules....lol
free health care FTW! :P
WolfShadow1234 1 year ago
@WolfShadow1234
Amen to that eh, my Canadian brotha!
NaienaArygos 1 year ago
Hells yea! Common Obama, hop on board! you know you want too. :) the funny thing is, he actually does.
WolfShadow1234 1 year ago
@WolfShadow1234
Obama for Prime Minister! LOL He'd probably do a better job than Harper.
NaienaArygos 1 year ago
who knows, probably. :P whats with that HST tax in canada? I know little about it but its supposed to suck
WolfShadow1234 1 year ago
@WolfShadow1234
Actually to be honest the HST plan is not a bad idea. The main problem that I see is that our social programs like health care and public schooling is going to suffer in Ontario because the ON gov't is going to lose revenue. The HST effectively merges with PST and eliminates GST. It is supposed to create a lot of jobs and reduce taxes (even exempting things like tax on gasoline). It is very complicated to set up and might cost the gov't more for administration in the beginning.
NaienaArygos 1 year ago
@NaienaArygos
"is going to suffer" = "are going to suffer" .... grammar fail.
NaienaArygos 1 year ago
@NaienaArygos
Also, it replaces PST and merges with GST. My brain is just not working today. Basically everything stays about the same, we will just have one tax that replaces the two others.
NaienaArygos 1 year ago
So it's meant to be a sub for PST and GST in a sense then? Thats good news about gas costing less. :) Gas is ridiculous.
WolfShadow1234 1 year ago
This is going to be bad in the long run. I heard the other day that:
"we should have universal healthcare and the current bill is at least moving in the right direction. Look at all the other big countries, they all have universal healthcare"
My point... YEAH LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES. European countries are going bankrupt! Why is that I wonder? hmmm... maybe b/c of healthcare cost?
LOOK at US. We're the leading economic country in the world!
DaOneEnOnly 1 year ago
um dude u guys have the higest debt in the world lol and the gayest helthcare get ur shit straght american
dominoes127 1 year ago
@dominoes127 Yea but we ain't the ones being bailed out like Greece,and Spain because we have enough GOP to support it. However, I think that this healthcare bill will push us over the edge. Then the only ones that can bail us out will be the Chinese (or several European Countries).
DaOneEnOnly 1 year ago
@dominoes127 the reason our debt is high now because our dumbass president has wasted so much money on "bailouts"
church348 1 year ago
@church348 You are the stupidest person on youtube! What about all that money our dumb former President Bush wasted on his damn Iraq war on Military spending not long ago? That placed us in debt because we've spent trillions of dollars sending our troops there, fighting against the country that didn't attack us on 9/11. So shut the fucking fuck up about Pres Obama wasting money on bailouts, which you claim placed us in debt! Don't even respond to me if you're going to send a negative response.
dreidwaxhaw 1 year ago
@dreidwaxhaw you do realize that Obama's stimulus package alone has cost more then the entire Iraq war. and that isnt counting all the other giant wastes of money his administration has done
church348 1 year ago
it's a great idea!........that is all
GDHGDYFJH 1 year ago
against!!! and i say boo to you legislative branch.
Bluefrog628 1 year ago
I'm against it.
grimus84 1 year ago
I think our health care should have better slogans. 3 out of 4 communist regime dictators give it 2 thumbs up! Do like Uncle Fidel does, and support this legislation! Hey, just think, you get to pay for a sex offender to get viagra! That would make this a far better sell!
waywardspirit1 1 year ago
I think it is funny that people want to demonize big bad insurance companies for bringing in obscene profits, when in actuality the numbers only lead to about a 4% margin. Coke on the other hand brings in a whopping 18%, so where is the witch hunt on them? The bill unfortunately doesn't help at all with costs. Want to lower costs? How about allowing the purchase of insurance across state lines or... I dunno... Tort reform? Nope. Guess we are going the government takeover route. *Sigh*
waywardspirit1 1 year ago
See, here's the thing: There is absolutely no way to get good info about this bill, so I can't form an objective opinion on it.
SpaceAndrew 1 year ago
I am so mad that the health care bill passed.
We are in a recession, and need more jobs, this bill will take the jobs of lots of doctors and send them out the window. And it will make the debt bigger. I am not happy at all.
killmeandit 1 year ago
I love it, it has to be done. This is what will save America, it would have been perfect if Bill Clinton (Hillary) could have passed the bill, so the insurance company would not able to suck America dry till now.
RoyalRook 1 year ago
my problem isn't necessarily with the paying for other people's health care part (kind of, but not the biggest problem.) my problem with the bill is that we just simply don't have enough doctors and nurses to take care of the people who have health care NOW..much less the millions more who will be added to health care because of the bill. health care for everyone would be an awesome thing..but at least wait until we have enough doctors and nurses to take care of everyone.
bpt249 1 year ago
Wow. It would be nice if people could look at problems objectively and consider solutions that would benefit everyone instead of just worrying about how one is affected individually. Universal health insurance is a good idea. If it can keep less from being at work sick or at grocery stores spreading diseases I'm all for it. So far hardly nothing has changed though. What we really need is to educate properly on preventative healthcare.
teraczy 1 year ago
It's true, there is no free healthcare. But in our universal healthcare, in Bulgaria, we all pay about 10$ a month for health insuranse. So, these people, who can't currently pay under the USA system, will be able to pay under the universal healthcare system. That way, they will pay for your healthcare too and everybody will help each other out. In my country, if somebody doesn't pay these 10$, they don't get covered.
I'm pretty happy I'm not under the inhumane USA healthcare system.
Ivanntu 1 year ago
@Ivanntu but it is not the same universal healthcare. the pricess are jacked up and also there is a slightly larger number of people in the US then in Bulgaria, so that in of it's self means the price will be far higher, and if we dont pay then they put us in jail for tax evasion, and if you choose not to have it then you get fined a rediculously high amount of money.
church348 1 year ago
@Ivanntu what europeans and canadians need to realize is that this is not the same universal healthcare that you have. there is also other crap in it that doesnt need to be in it that will jack up the prices, such as how the government now controls student loans due to this bill, so that means even more taxes
church348 1 year ago
I understand your concern. But according to statistics, the USA spends the most money on person for healthcare than any other country in the world(something like 7000$!). Canada is second and they even spend twice less. Can't something be done about that fact? I mean, even with all that money spend, a lot of people are uninsured or get their coverage dropped when they need it, because of some stupid reason.
Can't, somehow, less money be spend on a person for healthcare?
Ivanntu 1 year ago
@Ivanntu Actually thats Switzerland they spend 11% of their GDP but your close Canada ranks third.
chrisfo19 1 year ago
@Ivanntu my concern is that it will cause the spending to be even higher, and also i dont like the federal government using power that it does not legaly have, under the American constitution the federal gov't doesnt have the right to force people to buy anything, whether its healthcare, guns, shoes. they arent ment to be able to do this
church348 1 year ago 2
@church348 Under the American constitution you shouldn't have to pay taxes of any kind. I can understand not wanting the government to control what you eat or wear but making sure everyone has healthcare (including people who CAN'T pay taxes for it) is on the level and, really I don't see any indication that controlling healthcare will lead to controlling everything else.
swordhunter12 1 year ago
@Ivanntu and once they start demanding that you buy healthcare, how long until they demand what type of car you drive, what type of food you eat, what shows on tv you are allowed to wacth, what websites you are allowed to go on. i dont want to see my America turn into the USSR, or the people's republic of china. Absolute power corrupts absolutly
church348 1 year ago
Don't worry about that at all! The USA is NEVER going to become anything like the USSR. My country was a communist one and I know perfectly well what communism, socialism and big government are.
Anyway, I think there are some countries in western Europe where you have to buy healthcare, but it's affordable for everybody. So I think that the USA should find some way to decrease spending money per person for healthcare. That may save some money.
Ivanntu 1 year ago
@Ivanntu we do need to do that, but this bill is not the one that will do it.
what country are you from?
church348 1 year ago
I am from Bulgaria, a country in Eastern Europe. I hate communism and socialism. But I also see a lot of Americans don't know what exactly socialism is.
Even when my country was under socialism, everybody could drive the car they want, eat what they want, watch what they want and go where they want. The problem was there was a huge shortage in stocks. For example, little variety of food, just a couple of type of cars and like 2 or 3 channels on TV.
Ivanntu 1 year ago
@Ivanntu the vast majority of americans dont like big government, the government allready controls are car industry now, thats what those "bailouts" were about taking control of the auto industry, they now have control over student loans, they are taking over the economy more and more, and the american people dont like it. and yes most people dont know what it means, they just know it is something bad and yet our president likes it
church348 1 year ago
Congratulations for the reform America! I just still don't get why are people in the USA so afraid of universal healthcare?
In my country, Bulgaria, we have universal healthcare. Although we have bad conditions in some hospitals, the health insuranse costs 10$ a month and everybody can afford it.
Conservatives like Hannity and Limbaugh are lying, I'd much rather stick with our problematic ,,socialized medicine" than the American inhumane and monstreous system.
Ivanntu 1 year ago
No one should be forced to pay a charity.
MrJZabe 1 year ago
I want free health Care, but this bill is not it. And I think the part that add insult to injury is the 'EVERYONE MUST BE COVERED OTHERWISE THEY PAY A PENALTY' what ever that means.
My employer does not pay for health insurance, hell he can barely make payroll. But because he has less than 50 employees, I have to now pay to go with out health which I can't afford already.
If this bill was like Canada's or England's then I would be on board, but it's not a help, it's punishment!
metchick02 1 year ago
I don't understand what the problem is, do you not want to have access to a doctor. Americans are so patriotic and go on about being oppressed by 'the man', but you don't seem to want to lift a finger for someone who isn't yourself. As a Brit I'm coming to this argument with Bias, out National Health System works (to a degree) and we can't understand why you lot don't want to work towards having your own free healthcare.
batmanofni 1 year ago
@batmanofni because it isn't free, the taxes pay for it, and not just for your own healthcare, you have to pay for everybody, including the illegal aliens who dont pay and get it for free. it is also more on that the government is forcing us to buy it. lots of people like 18 to 30 year olds dont think they need it, so they dont get it, but now they are being forced to buy it
church348 1 year ago
What is your aversion to helping other people, I don't understand why you don't want to help the entire country.
batmanofni 1 year ago
@batmanofni people help the less fortunate all the time, but people dont like to be forcred into a charity. also the new taxes from it will make even more of the country so poor that they have be one of the ones who needs charity
church348 1 year ago
I have to point out that the only way we'll find out what a majority of Americans want is to vote in an open and public manner. Fox News polls will only get votes from Fox News watchers. The same applies to MSNBC, CNN, etc. etc. Even Jeremy Jahns is only a sample of the online community. I say that if this is such a major issue and is causing so many problems, we take a vote. And not just on the overall bill, but the different elements of it: insurance, public option, malpractice... everything.
DomicileImbecile 1 year ago
wait, they passed a bill that gives America free health care?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Great, now what am I gonna make fun of you guys for?
OriginalityImpaired 1 year ago
@OriginalityImpaired It's not free health care. At lest not yet. Right now it's nothing like the other countries health care system. the system changed but not tomuch.
davidcox100 1 year ago
Socialism is a good idea until you run out of someone else's money...
MrPorkins 1 year ago
most people in this country are too stupid and under informed to make an educated decision on this matter. they just follow what the media says, if they are liberal and msnbc says it is good, then they like it. if they are conservative and fox new say it is bad then they hate it. unless teh american public becomes more/better informed and stop being so damn idealistic then they will never be able to make a good decision. 'well, fox says it is a nazi/socialist plan to kill usall,thereforeihateit'
wkdzairi 1 year ago
i feel Canadian about this bill.
duffysayshello 1 year ago
I'm fairly liberal, so I'm very 50/50 right now. But whats pissing me off is the people that are sitting around bitching and moaning about how this all sucks and how most of the country didn't want it yet no one really does anything about it like I dunno, sit-ins, letters, etc. Not saying people DON'T already do it. But, most of the people I hear whine about it don't put action behind their words to try and change things. They just sit around and wonder why things happen.
VioletVictoria 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
obama is a nigger.
mcfarlanehunter 1 year ago
Four words to make the internet hate you, well done!
batmanofni 1 year ago
it looks to me like they are going to be charging medicare and medicaid TOO MUCH. Might be what the government wants though. Make Medicare and Medicaid go out of buisness so that people over 65 and the disabled will be forced to pay for regular healthcare.
MrFallior 1 year ago
count this as 4 votes cuz my mom dad and my brother as well as me are for this healthcare reform i my not be able to say why they are for it but they said they are
I am for it because i have a epilepsy and i need my healthcare for pills and stuff to survive and i don't think i should be charged extra just because i had the misfortune to be born with epilepsy, there are varous other resons but i can't fit it all in one comment.
spawn10317 1 year ago
to tell you the truth i have no idea what the F*CK IT EVEN IS.... and its sad that i am currently taking government
upgrademicro1 1 year ago
i believe you all the way the government is screwy
PhattyFatBoy 1 year ago
I'm glad the bill passed, and disappointed that they made it slowly die for a year before they passed it.
TheStickyNoteKing 1 year ago
The Healthcare reform shouldn't of gotten passed. We elect people to represent the people of America. Did you see the polls? Only like 23% was for this passing. Yet Obama continued to push the bill. We can see he truely listens to us. Well done voting him into office.
SouthernboyjInRS 1 year ago
Oops... Looks like children are not immediately able to get insurance with pre-existing conditions. It was NOT put into the bill just signed. I guess they just forgot. Need more Hope & Change
hurricane1587 1 year ago
I wonder how many people will take advantage of the healthcare once they find out it's free to them.
rogeruhler 1 year ago
Careful, please don't become a RWJ.
dndflorus 1 year ago
the bill they passed was flawed. if they wanted a model to see how government health care should work, they should have looked that the Oregon Health Plan. I am against what they passed.
TheWillRogers 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Why does anyone want to give the most incompetent group of legislators control over every aspect of their lives? I think it's hilarious how Pelosi said, "We need to hurry up and pass this bill so we can open it up and see what's in it!". More like, "We need to hurry up and pass this bill before the American people find out what's in it!". I don't care if this get's thumbed down a million times. I'll call bull-shit when I see it, and I've just spotted a heaping pile of it.
iananthonynewsomeTV 1 year ago
@iananthonynewsomeTV
A) if you wanted to know what's in the reform then look it up i'm sure there is a website that shows it
B) healthcare is not every aspect of our lives
spawn10317 1 year ago
Comment removed
iananthonynewsomeTV 1 year ago
I guess we'll see bumper stickers in the future saying " get goverment healthcare? Thank a rich person" lol
JrzDyMe 1 year ago
now it might just be because I'm a republican, but that bill looked like it was written by an insurance salesman... i have good friends in the medical field that are probably going to take a financial punch to the gonads because of this bill. I hope they can keep their jobs if they're trying to get 2 people to run an entire office. In pharmaceutics and nursing, that's almost impossible.
TheTechzorro 1 year ago
I'm all for the bill..especially since in a few short years I would have had to get insurance..but now with the bill passed I can stay on my parents insurance until I am 26..so 6 more years instead of 3 to get my life on track and get a good job (and finish college as well)
Alainathefreak 1 year ago
it's a ton better for my diabetic sister. this way, if she's unemployed she isn't fucked over by $400 bottles of insulin. Plus, she has 6 more years to stay on my parents.
DDRman732865 1 year ago
As a Canadian I think it's amazing that it got passed. They took the screw driver out of my neck, for free. My broken arm, also free, and the one time I needed meds. Those were free aswell. Once you get used to it you'll be happy you can spend 45,000 on a fantastic school or something
SacreligeousSatires 1 year ago
The United States Government has fucked up everything it's gotten it's greedy fingers on. Search "Failed Government Projects" in Google.
EdgePitSwing 1 year ago
I love how people don't support the bill even though they don't know what is in it. From what I read and heard, it was more on regulating health insurance companies and setting things up so doctors don't have to spend so much money one testing someone. There was hardly anything in there about government universal healthcare except that instead people who couldn't get coverage would be put into a high-risk pool to get coverage.
Now I might be wrong, but this is what I got out of what they said.
BarbedBiohazard 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I Really don't know because i don't know will this Bill effect me. What I do know is that I will be on my moms Health In. until i am 26 so i know I'll still have health care into my adult years. So really It can go both ways. Where do u stand?
Disney109Fan 1 year ago
If the govt. is having trouble just running the postal service what makes them think they can keep this a float?
LennyxxxYnnel 1 year ago
The problem with the bill is that it will force you to technically pay to live, that said i don't care about anything else. I don't think it is right to be taxed to live, that in itself is wrong, and is a throwback to everything else about to be taxed in new york. No more taxes no more government regulation. Poor people can be poor , rich people can be rich , and just let everyone else live their lives, regardless of who might call them unhumanitarian.
NoonSlap 1 year ago
@NoonSlap What do you mean Pay to live? We already pay premiums to live, also no matter who you are, a bill for 3000 dollars for a catscan is ridiculous considering how long that technology has been out.
NirvanaMind3290 1 year ago
You people need to realize that the president is only the messenger in government control. He doesn't do everything, he just gives it the OK. Obama is a good man and has morals people can agree with. I like that this healthcare bill passed, because I think they've spend too much time on it already.
30kbpm 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The Fire Department
The Police Department
The Water & Sewer Departments
These are all socialist run departments of government that prey on us and yet, i never here any of you right wing lugnuts complain about them. You might try reading the Constitution, specifically the promise to promote the General Welfare. We are watching our crumbling culture brough to the edge of destruction by that contra; "Take Care of Number One" and the hell with everybody else ! Another win for the Globalists !
tatomuck18 1 year ago
I also don't support it b/c no one knows enough about it....and no one in congress even read the bill...did these people that run our country graduate from HS?...I personally am terrified b/c I have had 2 close encounters w/ moderate cancer. Both of which I had taken care of....but now what?...What wil happen if I need treatment and have to wait for this fabulous gov. health care to OK me?...they can't even answer that...and Obama has been asked that ques. 1000 times @ press conferences!!
Trueghostgirl 1 year ago
i agree. we never heard anything about this 2000 page bill. obviously tho, while obama has been stealing our money with taxes, he has taken the time to type it in triplaqate. and yes, this bill increases taxes.
shadowraven12 1 year ago
@shadowraven12 the bill is 1773 pages, I've read it, and alot of things repubs are saying and pretty much dead wrong, flat out lie. Its a boring ass read, and takes alot time to understand cause its written in D.C double standard, But its worth it.
NirvanaMind3290 1 year ago
@Trueghostgirl Its in the bill, the System doesnt Ok you, that was the old system.
NirvanaMind3290 1 year ago
I'm terrified of it...nor do I support it......not b/c of socialism or government control...but b/c they are going to fine you if you don't buy/ have any health insurance...WTF? ....fine me?....first off....their so called "affordable health care"...isn't affordable AT ALL...its just as much as every other healthcare plan...plus I'm unemployed thanks to this great economy...can I afford to pay for health insurance...NO!!
Trueghostgirl 1 year ago
I dnt livein america buh emmm .. I LOVEEE OBAMA .. Comeee On Irelaand :)
xxgawjusbosexx 1 year ago
Health care makes me proud to be canadian. It isn't perfect, but I know, no matter how sick I get, I will always be entitled to healthcare. Americans seem very afraid of it but they also have never had it, so to be afraid of something they have not had is understandable. I am a canadian who lived in the USA for a year, I was incredibly sick and still didn't go to the hospital because I couldn't afford it. I wasn't the only one who did. That is incredibly frightening, What do you think Jeremy?
TenshiRebecca 1 year ago
I hope all this R vs. D stuff makes the majority vote for neither in the next elections. I'm really ready to see a Libertarian in the White House.
As for the Health Care, well. There's a lot of mixed up information. But I'm pretty against it. Especially seeing as we can't even remotely AFFORD IT.
Emrgnci 1 year ago
This is the most glories day for marxist everywhere my conrad.
justinC504 1 year ago
i like it, go obama!
enochworld 1 year ago
And for those of you who are right wing -and- believe in god. Take a summary of socialism and a summary of the teachings of the bible and try and tell me that the son of god was not a socialist. =)
(will gladly respond to intelligent questions regarding this issue)
andreasson 1 year ago
@andreasson That's interesting, can you say why you think of Jesus as a socialist? Any certain accounts that caught your eye? I'm just a bit confused being a kid and all. Like to hear your theory though.
Please excuse the silly spelling errors :)
SorasMemory 1 year ago
@SorasMemory Your spelling looks fine too me =). We could make this discussion very complex but I don't have the space here or the energy at the moment. But one basic idea that applies to many socialist even today is: The "equality of opportunity" which advocate a society in which there are equal opportunities and life chances for all individuals to maximize their potentials and attain positions in society. This would be made possible by equal access to the necessities of life.
andreasson 1 year ago
@SorasMemory . Jesus gathered all kinds of people around him but mostly people who did not have equal access to the necessities of life. To put it bluntly. In a capitalistic system the one that happens to have a lot of money also has a lot of power, that person can purchase all of the necessities in life. In a socialistic system wealth (does not only refer to money) is widely distributed to those in need. Whom did Jesus gather around him? People whom had very little. They are worth just as much.
andreasson 1 year ago
@andreasson Okay nice to hear your view on things. I just wanted to know where you were coming from on that comment, not to get into some debate. I have different views on that certain aspect, but that's okay we're all different. Thanks for answering the question.
SorasMemory 1 year ago
Hey all. Swedish guy typing so I might be slightly biased here. As some have already pointed out, health care is a basic right. Imagine being a doctor, someone that has sworn to do all in his or her power to save lives then having to deny people because of insurance problems? We have pretty high taxes in Sweden and I am so happy to pay them. I don't pay for University, I actually get some money for studying. We have universal health-care, good infrastructure, and we take care of people in need.