look at some videos of tom wallisch forexample he has perfekt switch double rodeos there you can see a rodeo.... a flatspin is not the same as a rodeo!!!!
Can anyone tell me from experience how much this sucks if you fall? My goal for this season is to learn this, I just want to know what to expect if and when I bite it.
I thought that in rodeo skis are higher than head. If I was wrong all the time, how the hell looks flatspin cause I thought it looks like that ;D It ruined my whole world xD
@SonOfKurt dude same, just dont mind the name, let all the idiots out there fight over the names of tricks. Being able to do a trick is better than fighting over the name when half of them can't even take off a jump properly :p
know what u mean, but still im pretty sure this is a flatspin. the feet never goes above the head. the differences between rodeo nd flatspin are so small, thats most likely why this video is called rodeo, and not flatspin, cuz there is no flatspin vid. andreas hatveit made tricktips on his blog, and one vid was called "rodeo/flatspin 540"..what he did, was a rodeo, not this. end
Boys a rodeo is inverted look at his head it never goes below him and it's not a flastspinf because a flatspin u have ur body horizontal to the ground
@Gnike9 it was a flatspin. you gotta look at his legs, not his upper body. his legs were horizontal but his upper body wasn't because of the grab. learn your shit.
@shaneclark121 Dude look closer ! His feet NEVER get higher than his head ! and read all the other comments Conclusion: Its a Flatspin 5; What about good glasses next time ? =)
@shaneclark121 whoa dude, regardless of whether hes a pro or not, it doesn't change the fact that its a flatspin and not a rodeo. that would be like a famous chef making a pb and j sandwhich and calling it a steak. just because he's a famous chef doesn't mean it's a steak. its still a pb and j sandwhich. get my point?
ROFL guys.... Do you REALLY think that a multiple x-games winner is talking bullshit? I think he knows more about skiing then you about your own mother xD!
those are flat 5s wtf. you would think that pros know what they are talking about but apparently not. rodeos go completely upside down. when you dont go upside down on a rodeo its a flatspin.
@jeffguarino the pros DO know what they are talking about. In many vids they say that you can choose if you want to do your rodeo as a overcork, flatspin, or full flip.
i dont understand? he is a pro and he is saying that this shit is a rodeo? but a rodeo isnt supposed to be a backflip + rotation? and this trick (my opinion) but this is a bio? he do a rotation forward .offaxis but his head never goes under? i dont understand
@zzz512000000 omg! you know less than what I thoght....
cork is backwards... rodeos and flatspins are backwards aswell. The difference is in the spin angle. corks do have more side rotation than backward rotation, while flatspins and rodeos do have more backward rotations and less side rotation compared with a cork. get a bit of knowledge before posting any bullshit....
@zzz512000000 he never rotates foward. watch at the begining. he just looks backwards and sideways to his body, never foward!
aas you said, bio 5 is rotating foward and offaxis, but he isnt rotating foward at any moment, so for me it looks like a rodeo 5, and in fact it is a rodeo 5 because a pro is saying it lol
@HOOBLAposse I never questioned that... I just stated that flats are off axis with back and side rotation, while mistys and bios are off axis with a foward and a side rotation... and the dude I was replying too, sayed it was a foward off axis rotation, thats why I commentd that
yeah they are. "corks" is a generalization for all of the terms bio misty rodeo flatspin whatever, its all the same. your spinning and your going off axis; cork.
Dspin once you go past 90 degrees, if you go forward its a bio
You could call all of them a variation to the term "cork", but you would be wrong since you are not the guy making up the terms. You are not the inventor, nor an authority on this so you will have to go with the stuff that is well known today.
i ve heard many people saying rodeo s like a backflip. but here, tj explains the motion as if your tackling=flipping forward? and it doesnt seem that he goes inverted to me. maybe its just a problem of the angle... sorry if it doesnt make sense. but can anyone clarify this...thanks
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SibleyFreeSki 2 days ago
shoulder in.... boom!
TheHutchproductions 2 weeks ago in playlist Pro Skiing Tips
is rodeo like backflip 180?
MasacreMichael 1 month ago
it is definitely a flat 5...
look at some videos of tom wallisch forexample he has perfekt switch double rodeos there you can see a rodeo.... a flatspin is not the same as a rodeo!!!!
ThePlanBB 1 month ago
he describes it pretty well but doesn't know much about blocking people in football
bakejunt775 1 month ago
flat 5 = rodeo 5
NesQuiklol 2 months ago
Can anyone tell me from experience how much this sucks if you fall? My goal for this season is to learn this, I just want to know what to expect if and when I bite it.
DJZmusicproductions 3 months ago
@DJZmusicproductions i've been trying a rodeo some times in the hill, and it ain't that hard. Just go for it and keep the rotation going.
11homer97 1 month ago
@11homer97 Sounds like a plan, thanks!
DJZmusicproductions 1 month ago
I thought that in rodeo skis are higher than head. If I was wrong all the time, how the hell looks flatspin cause I thought it looks like that ;D It ruined my whole world xD
SonOfKurt 4 months ago
@SonOfKurt dude same, just dont mind the name, let all the idiots out there fight over the names of tricks. Being able to do a trick is better than fighting over the name when half of them can't even take off a jump properly :p
AntwonOriginal 4 months ago
im wrong ,if i say it looks like a cork?
stee997 4 months ago
@stee997 yes, you would be wrong
TheDisgruntledBat 4 months ago
I'm pretty sure TJ Shiller knows if its a rodeo more than a bunch of bitchin kids on youtube. Shut the hell up and just enjoy the video
skiflyer95 6 months ago
isn't that more like a normal 540 ? xD
l4ug3n 7 months ago
its stupid how many dif opinions there are, but i have to admit, this is a flatspin.
CalleFS 9 months ago
@CalleFS uh hu. listen i think id leave the trick naming up to the pros
Zombiepingoo 8 months ago
@Zombiepingoo
know what u mean, but still im pretty sure this is a flatspin. the feet never goes above the head. the differences between rodeo nd flatspin are so small, thats most likely why this video is called rodeo, and not flatspin, cuz there is no flatspin vid. andreas hatveit made tricktips on his blog, and one vid was called "rodeo/flatspin 540"..what he did, was a rodeo, not this. end
CalleFS 8 months ago
this is flat 5 not rodeo
steezster 10 months ago
idk the last one looks like a misty to me... all the others like flats or rodeos hard to tell
m0gulsk1er 11 months ago
misty
sirmace911 1 year ago
@sirmace911 ya he never sets even vaguely backwards
lilmachias2712 11 months ago
looks more like a misty to me
john18061806 1 year ago
Well at least he knows how to play football
forestpowder9 1 year ago 4
Boys a rodeo is inverted look at his head it never goes below him and it's not a flastspinf because a flatspin u have ur body horizontal to the ground
Gnike9 1 year ago
@Gnike9 it was a flatspin. you gotta look at his legs, not his upper body. his legs were horizontal but his upper body wasn't because of the grab. learn your shit.
HorsePlayProductions 1 year ago
if you look inro his gogles he looks so blazed..
Caleb0wnedYou 1 year ago 15
@Caleb0wnedYou lol he probally is
frostybigdaddy 11 months ago
why would a FLAT spin not be where your body is FLAT aka HORIZONTAL with the ground.
This was definately a flatspin. Rodeos have your skis going over your head. The one at 1:14 is more of a rodeo than the one TJ did.
fazure 1 year ago
you guys ahve it backwards, flatspin is near invert.
carcass2crusher 1 year ago
@carcass2crusher you are dumbass. rodeos are near inverted, not flat spins.
1newskater4life 1 year ago
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Agree that's a flatspin, a rodeo is of course inverted. What says the pro does'nt matter, it's the definition of the trick, not mine.
pingumotion 1 year ago
Agree that's. a flatspin, a rodeo is of course inverted. What says the pro does'nt matter, it's the definition of the trick, not mine.
pingumotion 1 year ago
Would this be easier to learn as 360 first?
YoureInSilico 1 year ago
wouldn't that be a flatspin? he didn't get inverted. i thought rodeo's were partially inverted
ilikepieandsking 1 year ago
this this rodeo is kind of weird look more like a flat..
Videoster18 1 year ago
flatspin is completely diferent then rodeo !
Videoster18 1 year ago
@backsiderodeo1080 No kidding
willimo27 1 year ago
thats deffinetly a rodeo 5 i don't understand how people have so much trouble with tricks its really not that hard
indyboy137 1 year ago
flat 5
WorthlessCrap 1 year ago
Hum... sorry TJ but that was a Flatspin 540
Probiebiscuit 1 year ago
@Probiebiscuit yeah you're right. you definitely know more than a pro
shaneclark121 1 year ago 19
@shaneclark121 Dude look closer ! His feet NEVER get higher than his head ! and read all the other comments Conclusion: Its a Flatspin 5; What about good glasses next time ? =)
Probiebiscuit 10 months ago
@Probiebiscuit yeah now that i'm doing rodeos i know what you're saying. but if TJ says its a rodeo its a fucking rodeo!!!
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@shaneclark121 whoa dude, regardless of whether hes a pro or not, it doesn't change the fact that its a flatspin and not a rodeo. that would be like a famous chef making a pb and j sandwhich and calling it a steak. just because he's a famous chef doesn't mean it's a steak. its still a pb and j sandwhich. get my point?
postcanyonbike 6 months ago
@Probiebiscuit thats the same thing as a rodeo.
HOOBLAposse 1 year ago
ROFL guys.... Do you REALLY think that a multiple x-games winner is talking bullshit? I think he knows more about skiing then you about your own mother xD!
3styleGOD 1 year ago
are flatspin 5s and rodeos the same..? or if they are different what is the deference
sk8skiboard3 1 year ago
aww fuck..i have no idea what tricks are which anymore...
backsiderodeo1080 1 year ago
im pretty sure TJ schller would now. everyone on youtube is a fucking retard and dont know anything. THIS IS A RODEO 540
aosk8r3 1 year ago
does rodeo actually exist?? you guys is saying taht its a flatspin ALL OVER THE ***** WEB!! why cant you post your own vids of rodeo5???
lordlarsle 1 year ago
those are flat 5s wtf. you would think that pros know what they are talking about but apparently not. rodeos go completely upside down. when you dont go upside down on a rodeo its a flatspin.
jeffguarino 1 year ago
@jeffguarino are you Retarded ??????? Flatspin is completely upside down...
Andersx93 1 year ago
@Andersx93 no, flatspin is when you are FLAT in the air. you are the retarded one!
Frediboy94 1 year ago
@Frediboy94 u r wroongg... flatspins are really completely upside down with a little flat but not much. rodeo is when u go more flat.
WaRnEr1080 1 year ago
@Andersx93 agreed! these ids doesent know what flat is.
WaRnEr1080 1 year ago
@Andersx93 you're fucking retarded, a flatspin in non inverted...
afterbanghero 1 year ago
@jeffguarino the pros DO know what they are talking about. In many vids they say that you can choose if you want to do your rodeo as a overcork, flatspin, or full flip.
Frediboy94 1 year ago
OMG i get it now. i'm trying it in my trip to the rockies this week :D
Skiingismyreligion 2 years ago
I think TJ knows what is a rodeo 5 so cut the crap!
toukopuoko 2 years ago
no obviously he doesnt because this isnt even close to a rodeo 5 dumbshit
wolflord2fk231 1 year ago
this isnt a rodeo or a misty...both odf those are inverted.this isnt.
wolflord2fk231 2 years ago
i dont understand? he is a pro and he is saying that this shit is a rodeo? but a rodeo isnt supposed to be a backflip + rotation? and this trick (my opinion) but this is a bio? he do a rotation forward .offaxis but his head never goes under? i dont understand
zzz512000000 1 year ago
a rodeo is a backflip rotation. this is basically a cork 5 or flatspin 5.a rodeo 5 is a backflip 180 cuz u count the flip as 360 rotation.
wolflord2fk231 1 year ago
@zzz512000000 he rotates backwards you idiot!
lukytas44 1 year ago
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zzz512000000 1 year ago
@zzz512000000 omg! you know less than what I thoght....
cork is backwards... rodeos and flatspins are backwards aswell. The difference is in the spin angle. corks do have more side rotation than backward rotation, while flatspins and rodeos do have more backward rotations and less side rotation compared with a cork. get a bit of knowledge before posting any bullshit....
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zzz512000000 1 year ago
@zzz512000000 what the fuck man? now you are hiding your comments in a language I dont understand... fag!
lukytas44 1 year ago
@lukytas44 dude the trick he is doing is a rodeo but to me
it looks more like a bio 5 than a rodeo 5
a rodeo is a sideflip with rotations i know but it looks like a bio
he rotate forward and offaxis
anyway no1 has to complain tj schiller even if its complicated to understand exactly what is a rodeo( cause in snowboard rodeo is a back+rotation)
zzz512000000 1 year ago
@zzz512000000 he never rotates foward. watch at the begining. he just looks backwards and sideways to his body, never foward!
aas you said, bio 5 is rotating foward and offaxis, but he isnt rotating foward at any moment, so for me it looks like a rodeo 5, and in fact it is a rodeo 5 because a pro is saying it lol
lukytas44 1 year ago
@lukytas44 corks are going off axis when you spin. not necessarily just backwards. mistys rodeos flatspins, they are all corks.
HOOBLAposse 1 year ago
@HOOBLAposse I never questioned that... I just stated that flats are off axis with back and side rotation, while mistys and bios are off axis with a foward and a side rotation... and the dude I was replying too, sayed it was a foward off axis rotation, thats why I commentd that
lukytas44 1 year ago
@lukytas44 oh i see. confusion cleared haha.
HOOBLAposse 1 year ago
@HOOBLAposse
they arent
Haterbc 1 year ago
@Haterbc the name says it all. flatspins are rodeos. rodeos are flatspins. they are the same thing.
HOOBLAposse 1 year ago
@HOOBLAposse
They arent.
Dub rodeo 10 doesnt look close to a dub flatspin 10.
E-mail any pro skier and they will set you straight. Stop spreading lies.
Haterbc 1 year ago
@HOOBLAposse
Flatspins, mistys, rodeos are not corks. THEY ARE NOT CORKS.
Haterbc 1 year ago
yeah they are. "corks" is a generalization for all of the terms bio misty rodeo flatspin whatever, its all the same. your spinning and your going off axis; cork.
HOOBLAposse 1 year ago
@HOOBLAposse
Corks are backwards.
Dspin once you go past 90 degrees, if you go forward its a bio
You could call all of them a variation to the term "cork", but you would be wrong since you are not the guy making up the terms. You are not the inventor, nor an authority on this so you will have to go with the stuff that is well known today.
Haterbc 1 year ago
i ve heard many people saying rodeo s like a backflip. but here, tj explains the motion as if your tackling=flipping forward? and it doesnt seem that he goes inverted to me. maybe its just a problem of the angle... sorry if it doesnt make sense. but can anyone clarify this...thanks
duckboy07 2 years ago
In a rodeo yo unever go inverted pretty close but your basically throwing your hips around your waist then wraping them around your ribs to switch
Hjarlette 2 years ago
Thanks Very Much! Now i know how to do a Rodeo 5! :D
Liingeron 2 years ago
Thats not a rodeo, its a flatspin.
evenmoe123 2 years ago
thanks yo
k1i1l1l1a1 2 years ago
looks hard i dont no if i should try this
yummycandy321 2 years ago
im defenatly trying 1 this week :)
wtfdued 2 years ago
what about a backflip... i wanna learn it b4 rodeo is it easier or harder than a rodeo
wtfdued 2 years ago
easier! you only have to throw yourself back and to spot the landing... try it in the powder!
babuinobabi 2 years ago
lawl... that's a misty 540, not a rodeo
erlilun 2 years ago
@erlilun dude he is a professional skier, im sure he knows what trick he is doing
jayhawk782 2 years ago
nice tips on the videos... still have to wait 2 days, then im in the slope too. B)
ovaali1 2 years ago