@adam32754 Oh by the way, according to you we should be happy for everything correct? So we should be happy for a Jehovah Witness for believing Jesus Christ to be Michael the Archangel yes? Or a Muslim for believing that Mohammed was God's final prophet? Or a Roman Catholic for believing that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth? This makes absolutely no sense. Reason being is these groups all claim to be the true church, just like Mormons do, yet they all contradict one another.
@TheJpgr1958 we have to allow people to worship who, how, where and what they want and leave the juding to the Lord,, do you get it yet? i think you do but satan has decieved you much
@adam32754 So you do believe that Joe Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ all rolled into one. Thanks for telling us the real truth. All Mormon missionaries I come in contact with won't say this to my face, not because I can't handle it, but because they know deep down inside that it's a bogus claim. And we are called to test and make a judgement call based on the Scriptures just like the Apostle Paul was by the Bereans in Acts 17. He didn't get angry, or play the "anti" or "hate" card.
The Book of Mormon is a volume of holy scripture comparable to the Bible. It is a record of God’s dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas and contains the fulness of the everlasting gospel. After Mormon completed his writings, he delivered the account to his son Moroni, who added a few words of his own and hid up the plates in the hill Cumorah. On September 21, 1823, the same Moroni, then a glorified, resurrected being, appeared to the Prophet Joseph Smith and showed him the plates
@adam32754 And Muslims state pretty much the same things about their prophet Mohammed, who was, according to them, God's final prophet, ergo no need for Joe Smith, and that Mohammed lived around 600AD, many many, many years before Smith. Also, the Jehovah Witness's state the same things Mormons do, going door to door, delivering meat in due season, etc. Mormonism does not have the corner market on Christianity. They are just another, and wrong, voice in the wilderness.
@adam32754 An excerpt from a forged document purportedly written by Martin Harris, was believed to be genuine by the Presidency of the LDS church :
" the spirit transfigured himself from a white salamander in the bottom of the hole & struck me 3 times & held the treasure [The Gold Plates] & would not let me have it"
Why was it initially believed to be genuine by you Prophet? If the early LDS church was not steeped in folk magic, the forgery would have been instantly dismissed.
@eeikman writing your claims on youtue only gives real credit to satan eeikman,, you have to write a document and to have other witesses to support it, they have to be reliable sources too,,, but by the time you've done that, our full time missioary numbers will double in this great work of the final harvest,, a stone that was cut out of without hands will roll on to fill the whole earth,, its wrttin my brother the book of Daniel
@adam32754 * a stone that was cut out of without hands will roll on to fill the whole earth * I'm familiar with the LDS claim. It was the subject of my 3 minute talk Sunday school talk in 1970. This kind of claim is a red flag. It is a serious problem when a group claims scripture refers to them specifically. You want to listen to preachers that point upwards to G_d in their teaching, not to the doors of their church.
@eeikman you thought you ended mormonism when Joseph Smith was killed ut asyou ca see form the faith of a fourteen year old boy we now have meeting houses and temples all around the world and still spreading,, the book of mormon has been translated into over fifty different languages,, Oh thank God for Joseph Smith
@r8rfanizme If it doest have anything to do with the truth then why even write it you jerkoff!,,,, and even if Jehovah Witness is at faster rate, and what? what about it?
@r8rfanizme I was referring to LD$ Inc.claim of the "fastest growing church". More disinformation from 50 E North Temple Street. thats funny even if that was true whats that got to do with anything, go to sleep jerkoff,,, opps, i mean sir
@adam32754 "Oh thank God for Joseph Smith" And a Jehovah Witness would state "Thank God for Charles T. Russell, and Judge Rutherford," a Roman Catholic would state; "Thank God for the Pope," a Moonie would state: "Thank God for Sun Yung Moon," a Christian Scientist would state: "Thank God for Mary Baker Eddy," a Muslim would state: "Thank God for Mohammed," and so on. Again, Mormonism is just another wrong voice in the wilderness, claiming the exact same things as all those other groups
@TheJpgr1958 well it looks like we should thank God for everything yeah? give thanks and praises to Him all the day long,,, you got to give poeple a chance or choice because we all got to believe in something dont we
@adam32754 * you thought you ended mormonism when Joseph Smith was killed * Mani, the founder of Manichaeism was "martyred". Following Mani's death, his religion became very powerful and widespread, lasting hundreds of years. Because of the unusual age in which information is so easily obtained, Mormonism's growth has stagnated. On the other hand, Christianity's growth in China is on par with the explosive growth of the 1st Century, the growth is phenomenal.
@eeikman thats right more doors are opening up for our full time missionaries, our young men from all over the world are just ready and eager to get out there armed with the real authority to preach the fulless of the everlasting gospel,,it was a huge break through when the Berlin wall came down, so yes you are right,as long as Christiaity grows in China LDS supports that because LDS are Christians. WE BELIEVE GOD SENT HIS SO JESUS CHRIST TO BE THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD, Joseph Smith
@adam32754 I recall a memorable quote I saw on a Baptist church sign about 30 years ago: "The world knew you before you knew the world". It was only after all these years that I fully understood the message. You. You do not understand the world of men. How well meaning people can believe and perpetuate a lie.
@adam32754 "Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ" Oh Boy!! The truth finally comes forth. Joe was not only a prophet, but was also Jesus Christ!!! Thanks for clearing this up. You Mormons DO worship Joe more than Jesus, because for you, Joe IS Jesus Christ. Very sad indeed.
@adam32754 Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him
indeed it will ,but when Christ does come ,you will realise you have been fooled by a con man who has stolen your eternal reward ,my advice would be to study the multiple first vision accounts and ask yourself ,if God appeared to you would you forget ?
sad to see you regard your demise as a thing to be laughed about ,read the first vision accounts and ask your self this ,maroni 10-32 ,reads that you must rid yourself of all ungodliness ,then is grace made available ,in light of that comment who do you know will ever have grace ,and even so ,were you to need to rid yourself of all ungodliness ,why would Christ need to die ,think it over ,bye
@roxfoot and even so ,were you to need to rid yourself of all ungodliness ,why would Christ need to die ,think it over ,bye,,,, now your not making any sence
@roxfoot simple, all those who will have Jesus to be their Saviour and live His teachigs to the best of their ability and wait upon the Lord, rememberig that the Lord tries those He loves from time to time in order to test and strengthen their faithfuless,
your diving in to deep and missing the simple things I think,
sorry brother ,but i think you may be swimming to shallow ,if grace is a gift from God and your prophet told you that you need to earn it ,it is no more a gift ,furthermore if your prophets demands that you rid youself of all ungodliness before you receive it ,who on earth ever will ,do you know anyone who is perfect but Christ
according to maroni grace is only available to those who are perfect already by ridding themslves of all ungodliness ,so again ,i ask you who will recieve grace
Remember that if you repeat a sin, you haven't fully repented of it; you have the ability to be free from sin, because God gives no commandment that people can't keep, and if you deny that you are a sinner, then his truth is not in you 1 John 1:8. Remember Matthew 5.
The Book of Mormon officially teaches that you have to be perfect to receive salvation.
@adam32754 A couple of problems with your response. First when you state: "all those who will have Jesus to be their Saviour," the question that needs to be asked is which Jesus? A Jehovah Witness believes Jesus to be Michael the Archangel. You as a Mormon believe Jesus to be one god amongst many gods. A New Ager believes Jesus to be a great Avatar. A Moonie has a another definition of Jesus. A Muslim has another and so on. Now common sense should dictate to us that they all can't be right.
@adam32754 Remember that the Bible states that there are other Jesus' running around, meaning there are counterfeit, again meaning fakes. Therefore who ever has the fake one does not have Jesus as their Savior. The question you must answer is does all of this matter to you, or are you going to be in the "politically correct" camp and say it dosen't matter, as long as one uses the name Jesus?
@TheJpgr1958 there is no law that states a person must believe in this or the other, i have not accused you or anyone about what they believe in but look at your comments, you have got so many accusations to give against mormons in that great and last judgment day as if God needs your evidence to help him,,, whos trying to be "politically correct" huh?
@adam32754 "there is no law that states a person must believe in this or the other, i have not accused you or anyone about what they believe in but look at your comments, you have got so many accusations to give against mormons in that great and last judgment day as if God needs your evidence to help him,,, whos trying to be "politically correct" huh?" These comments, flagged as spam by someone, has nothing to do with what I asked. Would you like to try again?
@adam32754 The second problem with your comment is this: "live His teachigs to the best of their ability" The obvious question you need to answer is how do you know NOW that your so-called "best" is THE best? See all groups who claim that one must earn or work for their salvation does not have peace with God. The term Gospel means "Good News." Does Mormonism have Good News? I don't believe they do, for you can never know for sure with 100% certainty that you have done enough or your best now.
@adam32754 * bye,,,, now your not making any sence * How can we reason with you if you do not even know what your own church teaches? If you are 12 years old or under, which you appear to be by the level of your knowledge, your parents should be more closely supervising your internet usage.
@adam32754 President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. . . . it was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh — even fifty six years should wind up the scene. (History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182).
@adam32754 Like LDS missionary work, one of the most important reasons why there is an age limit for joining any branch of the military is that a young man has yet to learn to question what he is taught to be true by his superiors. When we die, we leave all allegiances we made to men behind. Joseph Smith on the other side in no position other than the wretched state in which he died.
@42apostate for a looong time yeah?,,, well (you assume wrong),, you've never understood because you have never wanted to believe it,, if you had the faith to understand you would understand dont you think,,, unless you are still dealing with transgressions you're trying to overcome
@adam32754 "if you had the faith to understand you would understand don't you think"
That statement does not make a lick of sense. Faith to understand? I don't understand quantum physics because I lack faith to understand?
"you've never understood because you have never wanted to believe it"
that makes about as much sense as your other statement. i do not want to put words in his Apostates mouth, but I think I would be safe to say he doesn't believe because he does understand
I honestly don't know what is meant by "fulness of the gospel", used often by LDS in reference to the Book o Mormon. Obviously it's something that supposedly sets it apart from other holy books--otherwise there'd be no need for BoM if the Bible also contained this "fulness".
Adam didn't answer. I guess he's like most Mormons who don't understand 1/10th of what they profess belief in.
@42apostate Keep something in mind: he LD$ Inc. DEFINITION of the word "gospel". Gospel does not mean "Good News", it more or less means "collection of laws and ordinances". For example, AoF3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. AoF 4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are....
Whatever "gospel" means to Adam (LDS), the "fulness of the gospel" would be, or should be, according to LDS leadership, explained in the Book of Mormon. IOW, all LDS descriptions of "gospel" (laws, ordinances, Atonement, faith, repentance, baptism, etc.) are all found in the Bible,. Therefore, no need for the BoM.
@42apostate Funny story: I was raised LD$, Inc, and was taught about "all the strife and disagreements among all the denominations." Fast forward, I was 18 in basic training, and they said there would be a non-denotational worship service. I asked what that meant, and he told me.I said, let me get this straight, Methodists, Baptists, Lutherans, etc. in the same room? he said yes, you want to go? I said, " I wouldn't miss this for the world". I expected a WWF Royal Rumble.
Yep. I was taught the same--and NEVER in my life witnessed or even heard of any major contentions between latter-day non-LDS. Such MAY have occurred and I'm sure did, but it's not as widespread as LDS wanted it to be.
@42apostate Let me tell you what, my expectations were let down, and It was a wonderful experience. I had never attended anything like it before. After the service, I thought to myself, "so where is all this division?" That was one of the first things that led me to believe that the church was misrepresenting, for a lack of a better phrase, non LD$ Inc. Christianity.
"if you had the faith to understand you would understand don't you think"
That statement does not make a lick of sense. Faith to understand? I don't understand quantum physics because I lack faith to understand? "you've never understood because you have never wanted to believe it" that makes about as much sense as your other statement. i do not want to put words in his Apostates mouth, but I think I would be safe to say he doesn't believe because he DOES understand
Schawn i even has doubts, but if you dont take care of yourself you are going to regret it, diet coke it has aspertin in it, its a killer drink, make some sports and to gym, it would be sad if we lose you
Shawn, I agree with Cableguy. Aspartame is a killer. Take care of that "temple" God blessed you with. You should google that artificial sweetener. You'll be shocked.
@42apostate * Aspartame is a killer. * When this was first introduced into the market in the 80's, companies were sweetening everything with this stuff. I was curious and wanted to try something new, so I had a big bowl of aspartame sweetened corn flakes. I got so sick I thought I was going to die.
I recently attended a little family party and the one in charge of drinks brought aspertame-laced soda. I don't drink much soda but I had about a 1/4 cup of some and I was sure I was going to vomit about 10 minutes later. It's NASTY STUFF!
LDS way of believing Book of Mormon: "We dont need to 'find' proofs. Its already true"
It's circular reasoning fallacy. Simply assuming a claim is true does not serve as evidence for that claim.It's like saying:
"X is true. The evidence for this claim is that X is true"
There is no evidence for LDS, only circular reasoning fear and absolute unquestionable obedience, who cares about right and wrong? just obey?!?!. that's a cult!
The Book of Mormon is a REAL BOOK! It has words on it's pages (522 of them). It has a cover (Hard bound, Soft bound or Leather). It has a cover page/introduction as well as a Table of Contents, etc.
So, it IS a real book. That's about all I can say good about it--and I've read it 7 or 8 times as well as took a BYU BOM class taught by Nibley himself.
Mark Twain read it too, and said of it, "Chloroform in print"--and I concur.
there is no known law that says anyone has to believe in this or the other, everyone is free to believe in whatever they wish to believe in, and this fact is so great hahahaha I Love it!...
Therefore I believe that I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.
there is no known law that says anyone has to believe in this or the other, everyone is free to believe in whatever they wish to believe in, and this fact is so great hahahaha I Love it!...
Therefore I believe that I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.
If Joseph saw an angel (which I don't believe he did), then I'm convinced that maroni was either Satan or a demon spirit. Satan must be loving it. He convinced Joseph to perpetuate a ton of lies called the book of mormon which has resulted in millions of souls being forever lost.
@southerngent253 you dont believe Joseph Smith saw an angel but if he did???, You dont know what you believe do you? lol.... and concerning your comment on millions of souls being forever lost,, um we will have the one and only judge to decide on that hahahaha
@2011neesh First, the Bible tells us that Satan appears as an angel of light. Coincidentally, isn’t that how Joseph described what he saw? Why yes it is! The BOM is filled with lies so we know he didn’t get any of it from God or a heavenly angel. Second, the one and only judge is the very judge Mormons deny so they need be afraid. He is your Lord, Savior, King and your God; not your brother.
@JediLDS It all depends on which version of his story you read. Joseph changed the story several times. Nice try but I know more than you think I know.
@2011neesh As for the Book of Mormon, it is a totally different gospel from the Bible. Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. The LDS is accursed.
@2011neesh So by telling a blind man that is walking toward a cliff that he is on the wrong path and his path is clearly heading for a cliff and eternal death is judging him? The by YOUR understanding True Christians do judge. but the fact is the truth hurts and you just do not want to hear it (Pharisee). Oh wait but the LDS calling all other beliefs an abomination is not judging correct?
Oh and a Parisee is a title that Jesus put on people in the Bible, look it up.
@Exodus314IAM what are you southerngent2S3's mother?.. surely he's got his own mind to answer for himself or do you just want to show that he is an idiot
@eeikman there are as many guesses to the lands of the book of mormon as their are guessers. At least the Lord of the Rings maps have stayed the same over time.
@r8rfanizme My brother-in-law Clate Mask Jr., did a lot of speculative research of BoM lands when he presided over the Mexico mission field. He had to renounce his research as a condition of being confirmed a member of the 2nd Quorum of Seventies. It's my opinion that behind closed doors, LDS church politics is pretty ruthless.
@r8rfanizme I have to soft pedal the hard realities of the LDS internal governance by saying, "it's my opinion", because no outsider will ever see what goes on internally. There is zero transparency. The membership can not even hold the leaders accountable as to how the tithes are spent.
PS. I'm 100% sure that Bigfoot will casually stroll into some town and start begging for food before Zarahemla is discovered.
@eeikman if people want to obidient and pay tithes, what is that to you? we dont want to hold our church leaders accountable as to how the tithes are spent, we give them our full support to the every end....just because you cant get on you want to try pull everyone down with you,,, Matt 23:13, But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
@2011neesh * Matt 23:13, But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees * Pharisees were probably bureaucrats, judges and teachers. Some were professional scribes. The churchmen in the employ of _your_ church are the class of folks referred to in Mathew. I don't have to act like a pious G.A. that nods condescendingly to my followers when they stand as I enter a room. An LDS General Authority is a modern Pharisee, pious and proud.
@eeikman pious??? you've got it all mixed up, pious is a pharse they would use in the catholic faith, our prophet travels the love of Jesus all around the world to seek the broken hearted, to feed the hugry and clothe the poor,,,those are the things YOU need to do in order to inherit the kingdom of heaven,, Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, and if you cant handle that, i'm sorry,
Im so greatful for Joseph's great faith to be able to finally bring the world out of darkness
@2011neesh "Im so greatful for Joseph's great faith to be able to finally bring the world out of darkness" The same can be said of Judge Rutherford for Jehovah Witnesses, Mohammed for a Muslim, who came many years before Joe, and, according to the Muslim, is God's FINAL prophet, ergo, no need for Joe, Mary Baker Eddy for the Christian Scientist, and the list goes on. "those are the things YOU need to do in order to inherit the kingdom of heaven". And how do you know if you have done enough?
@2011neesh You don't know. That's why Mormonism, along with all of the other groups I mentioned, does not the good news for anyone. Remember, the term Gospel means good news. You have no good news, any more than a Roman Catholic, JW, Moonies, or any other group has because you do not know here and now if you have true peace with God. And if you are honest, you would state that you don't. Again, Mormons, and Mormonism has no good news.
@2011neesh * Im so greatful for Joseph's great faith *
This is a conditioned response. St Francis of Assisi named his beasitial aspect "Brother Mule". It's that muleish part of you that's been conditioned to expect punishment or reward from the LDS community. This system can be positive, without it society would collapse, but it's keeping you from discovering some realities that would be obvious otherwise.
@JediLDS I also haven’t read the Jehovah Witnesses Bible and the Koran but just like the book of Mormon, they teach a “different Jesus and a different gospel” from the Bible. Enough has been proven about the BOM to prove it’s all lies. You’ve placed your hope and faith in a false profit. You’ve been warned. You can’t use the excuse now that you didn’t know.
@southerngent253 I've been warned? You have not read the Book of Mormon and yet you presume to tell me that it's all lies? Fair enough. I'll give your warning every last ounce of attention I think it deserves. When you can top a witness from the Holy Ghost as to the truth of the Book of Mormon, THEN I'll give your warning some credibility.
@JediLDS God instructed us to prove his word and to test the prophets. The Bible has been proven to be totally true and trustworthy buy credible historians and theologians. On the other hand, these same experts provide tons of evidence that prove the BOM is full of fiction. Such evidence confirms that the BOM is not from the Holy Ghost. It’s from a con man, Joseph Smith.
@JediLDS This is my very last word and warning to you. Test your prophet and test his bible, "the book of mormon". After all, where you will spend eternity depends on which God you follow. Think long and hard about all of the evidence this man presents in all of his videos. If the BOM is true, his evidence has not weight. But, if his evidence proves things in the book aren't true, you need to do more research. This about it and good luck and goodbye.
@JediLDS Good question! It's the fake angel Joseph Smith made up. You know, the one who he claims told him where the golden plates were buried on the Hill Cumorah. And I thinks it is spelled Moroni.
If you want it spelled out... dick, then you can see it on my channel. Too bad you won't be able to reply since I fucking blocked you.. maybe you should have thought of that before blocking me. And what warrants me calling you a dick.. is you being a dick. You think it's okay to be called a dick, you just don't think it's okay to be a dick. And regarding the threat... there are many outlets outside of youtube, yelp for example. Too bad you were a dick huh.
there is no known law that says anyone has to believe in this or the other, everyone is free to believe in whatever they wish to believe in, and this fact is so great hahahaha I Love it!...
Therefore I believe that I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.
@42apostate if thats what the Illuminati chosse to do, thats thier choice, we cat force them to do what we want them to do,,,, dont fear!,, we have a eternally honest & wise God to judge all of us including YOU!, so dont worry we will all have to stand accountable in that great judgment day :)
One of the things we'll be judged on is "did we allow Illuminati to function without resistance to their evil plots?"
I'll be able to answer to God that I did what I could to stop their evil machinations.
What about you?
However. The "Illuminati" was not the subject. Phony belief systems (like Illuminati and Mormonism and even the KKK were only examples) WAS the subject--which 2001neesh thought was an okay belief system.
@42apostate "did we allow Illuminati to function without resistance to their evil plots?" oh stop writing about false works,,, plain and simple, feed the hugry and comfort those who stand i need of comfort,,, your jumping over to illuminati & kkk to try& erase the fact of the relief work the LDS church have been giving to the may disasters around the world,,, just do good to your fellow men, (as for the illuminati, Vegence is mine saith the Lord)
@42apostate yes I believe I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God,, and if you dont like that, well thats just to bad, im sorry, thats just tooooo bad :)
Shawn McCraney and his immature mocking is a disgrace. I want to share my testimony with all of you and put this to rest right now. I testify and I know that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true and is the only true church. I know that Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God, I know The Book of Mormon is true and I know Thomas S. Monson is the Prophet on the Earth today. I know these things by the power of the Holy Ghost. You people who mock the church are in spiritual danger.
I testify and know that TCOJCOLDS is a business pretending to be a "church". I know that Joseph Smith was a liar and a con man and I know that all the men after Joseph were DUPES. NONE were "prophets" in any sense. I know these things by using the brain God gave me AS WELL AS by the power of the Holy Ghost,
You people who blindly follow false prophets are the ones in spiritual jeopardy..
@42apostate You are offering an opinion, not a testimony. There is a difference. And sorry, but the Holy Ghost did not tell you that the church was not true, nor that Joseph Smith was not a prophet. I'm sticking with UtahMormon90's testimony. I know where his came from.
@UtahMormon90 Wow really? what has been the most meaningful prophecy Thomas S Monson has proclaimed to you? and did he say he actually talked to God? Did He warn the Japanese of the Tsunami last year? Did he take a stand against Bin Laden? What exactly has Thomas S Monson provided us as revelation from God?
@JediLDS said "that is silly. God allows disasters to happen. Chill out. Take a nap. Take two naps. :
Yes, and he also allows stake presidents of the Mormon church to massacre men, women and children. I don't get your point here! LOL. Are you saying that there truly is not point to having a prophet? Tell me something that your Mormon prophets have prophesied to you in your lifetime besides fixing past mistakes like blacks not holding the priesthood?
@UtahMormon90 If Joseph Smith did this in front of you would you believe it? Coins, breastplates, murdered Spaniards, Urim and Thummin, metallurgy, writing system, and so on all need evidence. Putting your face in a hat with a pet rock simply doesn't qualify. Look what a mess JS made with Real Egyptian.
@UtahMormon90 The church must be true 'cause if it isn't, then nothin' else is worth believing in. Those old church men with kindly faces could never lie, could they?
@UtahMormon90 I know the Church is a lie so who is correct? Sorry to say we will not find out until the end and then if I am correct your eternity is in a very very hot place and lots of nashing of teeth. I you are correct I still am in heaven (paradise). Now I know I am correct 100% what about you? How do you know? Seek the truth!
@Exodus314IAM Ya gotta love these folks who think that God is incapable of correct judgement, so they step in and take over for Him.
Ahhh, Exodus...hello...only God is allowed to condemn someone to hell. You don't have the authority or wisdom for that kind of judgement. (No according to the Bible, that is.)
@JediLDS Well the Bible is clear, I am not the judge but the Jesus did say unless you come to Him you will not be saved. So by coming the the Brother of Satan will not save you only the real Jesus of the Bible can save you.
Seek the truth, run from the false teachings of Mormonism.
@42apostate I've never dictated what he can say and what he can't. Just informing him that when he condemns someone to hell, not only is he acting without authority to do so, he is offering a personal opinion--nothing more, nothing less. Now, if he could PROVE he has the authority to condemn a person to hell, that would be a different matter. But he can't prove it.
Neither can you prove you have the authority to bless the sac.--or anything else.
You show evidence of YOUR claimed authority (PH) and we can go from there.
This is really amusing coming from someone (YOU) that can't prove ANY of your faith's claims...BoM being true and "the most correct book on earth"; Book of Abraham as a legit Egyptian tome. Keys of the Priesthood residing ONLY with Mormons, etc, etc.
You sure quickly dropped your phony claim concerning the Tanner's "dropping" their accusations concerning the 3913 changes/corrections/additions/subtractions from the Book a Marmin, dincha? Care to make a retraction of your charges?
Joseph Smith was a prophet of God,, Good night everyone
adam32754 1 week ago
i love it when he says mormonion!
torymorton 1 week ago
@torymorton he's the onion pastor
adam32754 1 week ago
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Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ, Good night everyone untill tomorrowww :)
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 Oh by the way, according to you we should be happy for everything correct? So we should be happy for a Jehovah Witness for believing Jesus Christ to be Michael the Archangel yes? Or a Muslim for believing that Mohammed was God's final prophet? Or a Roman Catholic for believing that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth? This makes absolutely no sense. Reason being is these groups all claim to be the true church, just like Mormons do, yet they all contradict one another.
TheJpgr1958 1 week ago
@TheJpgr1958 we have to allow people to worship who, how, where and what they want and leave the juding to the Lord,, do you get it yet? i think you do but satan has decieved you much
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754
not exactly friend ,the Bible you claim to believe in states otherwise
roxfoot 1 week ago
@adam32754 So you do believe that Joe Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ all rolled into one. Thanks for telling us the real truth. All Mormon missionaries I come in contact with won't say this to my face, not because I can't handle it, but because they know deep down inside that it's a bogus claim. And we are called to test and make a judgement call based on the Scriptures just like the Apostle Paul was by the Bereans in Acts 17. He didn't get angry, or play the "anti" or "hate" card.
TheJpgr1958 1 week ago
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@TheJpgr1958 yes, Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ.
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@TheJpgr1958 we have to allow people to worship who, how, where and what they want and leave the judging to the Lord,
adam32754 1 week ago
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Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ, have a good day everyone!
adam32754 1 week ago
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Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ
adam32754 1 week ago
The Book of Mormon is a volume of holy scripture comparable to the Bible. It is a record of God’s dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas and contains the fulness of the everlasting gospel. After Mormon completed his writings, he delivered the account to his son Moroni, who added a few words of his own and hid up the plates in the hill Cumorah. On September 21, 1823, the same Moroni, then a glorified, resurrected being, appeared to the Prophet Joseph Smith and showed him the plates
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 And Muslims state pretty much the same things about their prophet Mohammed, who was, according to them, God's final prophet, ergo no need for Joe Smith, and that Mohammed lived around 600AD, many many, many years before Smith. Also, the Jehovah Witness's state the same things Mormons do, going door to door, delivering meat in due season, etc. Mormonism does not have the corner market on Christianity. They are just another, and wrong, voice in the wilderness.
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@TheJpgr1958 so whats your belief,, new born christian?....
adam32754 1 week ago
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well said brother ,if you think about it mormonism and the nazi youth brigade have a whole lot in comon too
roxfoot 1 week ago
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@roxfoot well said brother ,if you think about it mormonism and the nazi youth brigade have a whole lot in comon too
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 An excerpt from a forged document purportedly written by Martin Harris, was believed to be genuine by the Presidency of the LDS church :
" the spirit transfigured himself from a white salamander in the bottom of the hole & struck me 3 times & held the treasure [The Gold Plates] & would not let me have it"
Why was it initially believed to be genuine by you Prophet? If the early LDS church was not steeped in folk magic, the forgery would have been instantly dismissed.
eeikman 1 week ago
@eeikman writing your claims on youtue only gives real credit to satan eeikman,, you have to write a document and to have other witesses to support it, they have to be reliable sources too,,, but by the time you've done that, our full time missioary numbers will double in this great work of the final harvest,, a stone that was cut out of without hands will roll on to fill the whole earth,, its wrttin my brother the book of Daniel
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 * a stone that was cut out of without hands will roll on to fill the whole earth * I'm familiar with the LDS claim. It was the subject of my 3 minute talk Sunday school talk in 1970. This kind of claim is a red flag. It is a serious problem when a group claims scripture refers to them specifically. You want to listen to preachers that point upwards to G_d in their teaching, not to the doors of their church.
eeikman 1 week ago
@eeikman you thought you ended mormonism when Joseph Smith was killed ut asyou ca see form the faith of a fourteen year old boy we now have meeting houses and temples all around the world and still spreading,, the book of mormon has been translated into over fifty different languages,, Oh thank God for Joseph Smith
adam32754 1 week ago
"we now have meeting houses and temples all around the world and still spreading"
So does the the Jehovah's Witnesses, only at a faster rate than LD$, Inc., but that don't have anything to do with truth, does it?
r8rfanizme 1 week ago
@r8rfanizme If it doest have anything to do with the truth then why even write it you jerkoff!,,,, and even if Jehovah Witness is at faster rate, and what? what about it?
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 Resorting to name calling, I thought you would be above that.
I was referring to LD$ Inc.claim of the "fastest growing church". More disinformation from 50 E North Temple Street.
r8rfanizme 1 week ago
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@r8rfanizme I was referring to LD$ Inc.claim of the "fastest growing church". More disinformation from 50 E North Temple Street. thats funny even if that was true whats that got to do with anything, go to sleep jerkoff,,, opps, i mean sir
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 "Oh thank God for Joseph Smith" And a Jehovah Witness would state "Thank God for Charles T. Russell, and Judge Rutherford," a Roman Catholic would state; "Thank God for the Pope," a Moonie would state: "Thank God for Sun Yung Moon," a Christian Scientist would state: "Thank God for Mary Baker Eddy," a Muslim would state: "Thank God for Mohammed," and so on. Again, Mormonism is just another wrong voice in the wilderness, claiming the exact same things as all those other groups
TheJpgr1958 1 week ago
@TheJpgr1958 well it looks like we should thank God for everything yeah? give thanks and praises to Him all the day long,,, you got to give poeple a chance or choice because we all got to believe in something dont we
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 * you thought you ended mormonism when Joseph Smith was killed * Mani, the founder of Manichaeism was "martyred". Following Mani's death, his religion became very powerful and widespread, lasting hundreds of years. Because of the unusual age in which information is so easily obtained, Mormonism's growth has stagnated. On the other hand, Christianity's growth in China is on par with the explosive growth of the 1st Century, the growth is phenomenal.
eeikman 1 week ago
@eeikman thats right more doors are opening up for our full time missionaries, our young men from all over the world are just ready and eager to get out there armed with the real authority to preach the fulless of the everlasting gospel,,it was a huge break through when the Berlin wall came down, so yes you are right,as long as Christiaity grows in China LDS supports that because LDS are Christians. WE BELIEVE GOD SENT HIS SO JESUS CHRIST TO BE THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD, Joseph Smith
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 I recall a memorable quote I saw on a Baptist church sign about 30 years ago: "The world knew you before you knew the world". It was only after all these years that I fully understood the message. You. You do not understand the world of men. How well meaning people can believe and perpetuate a lie.
eeikman 1 week ago
@eeikman Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ
adam32754 1 week ago
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@adam32754 "Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ" Oh Boy!! The truth finally comes forth. Joe was not only a prophet, but was also Jesus Christ!!! Thanks for clearing this up. You Mormons DO worship Joe more than Jesus, because for you, Joe IS Jesus Christ. Very sad indeed.
TheJpgr1958 1 week ago
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Deuteronomy 18 states different to that my friend
roxfoot 1 week ago
@roxfoot care to explain
adam32754 1 week ago
@adam32754 Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him
roxfoot 1 week ago
@roxfoot now the LDS church all around the world from the faith of a fourteen year old boy,, and will cotinue till Jesus comes again
adam32754 1 week ago
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indeed it will ,but when Christ does come ,you will realise you have been fooled by a con man who has stolen your eternal reward ,my advice would be to study the multiple first vision accounts and ask yourself ,if God appeared to you would you forget ?
roxfoot 1 week ago
@roxfoot haha well, we will have to wait and see then,,,, A good day to you sir
adam32754 1 week ago
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sad to see you regard your demise as a thing to be laughed about ,read the first vision accounts and ask your self this ,maroni 10-32 ,reads that you must rid yourself of all ungodliness ,then is grace made available ,in light of that comment who do you know will ever have grace ,and even so ,were you to need to rid yourself of all ungodliness ,why would Christ need to die ,think it over ,bye
roxfoot 1 week ago
@roxfoot and even so ,were you to need to rid yourself of all ungodliness ,why would Christ need to die ,think it over ,bye,,,, now your not making any sence
adam32754 1 week ago
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simple ,do you know of anyone that ever existed who was able to rid themself of all ungodliness ,so who then i ask ,has or could ever recieve grace
roxfoot 1 week ago
@roxfoot simple, all those who will have Jesus to be their Saviour and live His teachigs to the best of their ability and wait upon the Lord, rememberig that the Lord tries those He loves from time to time in order to test and strengthen their faithfuless,
your diving in to deep and missing the simple things I think,
adam32754 1 week ago
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sorry brother ,but i think you may be swimming to shallow ,if grace is a gift from God and your prophet told you that you need to earn it ,it is no more a gift ,furthermore if your prophets demands that you rid youself of all ungodliness before you receive it ,who on earth ever will ,do you know anyone who is perfect but Christ
roxfoot 1 week ago
@roxfoot well thats why Jesus came, so we can be made perfect through His life, death and ressurection,,, yeah your going in to deep again.
adam32754 1 week ago
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according to maroni grace is only available to those who are perfect already by ridding themslves of all ungodliness ,so again ,i ask you who will recieve grace
roxfoot 1 week ago
@adam32754 Alma 34:32-35, 1 Nephi 3:7.
Remember that if you repeat a sin, you haven't fully repented of it; you have the ability to be free from sin, because God gives no commandment that people can't keep, and if you deny that you are a sinner, then his truth is not in you 1 John 1:8. Remember Matthew 5.
The Book of Mormon officially teaches that you have to be perfect to receive salvation.
Baurakale777 1 week ago
@Baurakale777 very good
adam32754 1 week ago
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@adam32754 A couple of problems with your response. First when you state: "all those who will have Jesus to be their Saviour," the question that needs to be asked is which Jesus? A Jehovah Witness believes Jesus to be Michael the Archangel. You as a Mormon believe Jesus to be one god amongst many gods. A New Ager believes Jesus to be a great Avatar. A Moonie has a another definition of Jesus. A Muslim has another and so on. Now common sense should dictate to us that they all can't be right.
TheJpgr1958 1 week ago
@adam32754 Remember that the Bible states that there are other Jesus' running around, meaning there are counterfeit, again meaning fakes. Therefore who ever has the fake one does not have Jesus as their Savior. The question you must answer is does all of this matter to you, or are you going to be in the "politically correct" camp and say it dosen't matter, as long as one uses the name Jesus?
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@TheJpgr1958 there is no law that states a person must believe in this or the other, i have not accused you or anyone about what they believe in but look at your comments, you have got so many accusations to give against mormons in that great and last judgment day as if God needs your evidence to help him,,, whos trying to be "politically correct" huh?
adam32754 1 week ago
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@adam32754 "there is no law that states a person must believe in this or the other, i have not accused you or anyone about what they believe in but look at your comments, you have got so many accusations to give against mormons in that great and last judgment day as if God needs your evidence to help him,,, whos trying to be "politically correct" huh?" These comments, flagged as spam by someone, has nothing to do with what I asked. Would you like to try again?
TheJpgr1958 1 week ago
@adam32754 The second problem with your comment is this: "live His teachigs to the best of their ability" The obvious question you need to answer is how do you know NOW that your so-called "best" is THE best? See all groups who claim that one must earn or work for their salvation does not have peace with God. The term Gospel means "Good News." Does Mormonism have Good News? I don't believe they do, for you can never know for sure with 100% certainty that you have done enough or your best now.
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@adam32754 * bye,,,, now your not making any sence * How can we reason with you if you do not even know what your own church teaches? If you are 12 years old or under, which you appear to be by the level of your knowledge, your parents should be more closely supervising your internet usage.
eeikman 1 week ago
@adam32754 President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. . . . it was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh — even fifty six years should wind up the scene. (History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182).
roxfoot 1 week ago
@adam32754 Like LDS missionary work, one of the most important reasons why there is an age limit for joining any branch of the military is that a young man has yet to learn to question what he is taught to be true by his superiors. When we die, we leave all allegiances we made to men behind. Joseph Smith on the other side in no position other than the wretched state in which he died.
eeikman 1 week ago
@eeikman WOW are you a prophet of God?
adam32754 1 week ago
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@adam32754 * WOW are you a prophet of God? * I'm an old guy that knows how the world works, and I know what the Bible says.
eeikman 1 week ago
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Can you answer a question I've had for a long time?
What is the "fulness of the everlasting gospel" the Book of Mormon is supposed to contain, that other holy books (I assume) don't contain?
I've heard that phrase several times and never understood what it meant.
42apostate 1 week ago
@42apostate for a looong time yeah?,,, well (you assume wrong),, you've never understood because you have never wanted to believe it,, if you had the faith to understand you would understand dont you think,,, unless you are still dealing with transgressions you're trying to overcome
adam32754 1 week ago
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@adam32754 "if you had the faith to understand you would understand don't you think"
That statement does not make a lick of sense. Faith to understand? I don't understand quantum physics because I lack faith to understand?
"you've never understood because you have never wanted to believe it"
that makes about as much sense as your other statement. i do not want to put words in his Apostates mouth, but I think I would be safe to say he doesn't believe because he does understand
r8rfanizme 1 week ago
@r8rfanizme
You said it well.
I honestly don't know what is meant by "fulness of the gospel", used often by LDS in reference to the Book o Mormon. Obviously it's something that supposedly sets it apart from other holy books--otherwise there'd be no need for BoM if the Bible also contained this "fulness".
Adam didn't answer. I guess he's like most Mormons who don't understand 1/10th of what they profess belief in.
42apostate 1 week ago
@42apostate Keep something in mind: he LD$ Inc. DEFINITION of the word "gospel". Gospel does not mean "Good News", it more or less means "collection of laws and ordinances". For example, AoF3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. AoF 4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are....
law of tithing is part of the gospel, etc,
As an ExMo, That's my take. 2 cents
r8rfanizme 1 week ago
@r8rfanizme
I agree. It's called Mormon-Speak. lol!
Whatever "gospel" means to Adam (LDS), the "fulness of the gospel" would be, or should be, according to LDS leadership, explained in the Book of Mormon. IOW, all LDS descriptions of "gospel" (laws, ordinances, Atonement, faith, repentance, baptism, etc.) are all found in the Bible,. Therefore, no need for the BoM.
42apostate 1 week ago
@42apostate Funny story: I was raised LD$, Inc, and was taught about "all the strife and disagreements among all the denominations." Fast forward, I was 18 in basic training, and they said there would be a non-denotational worship service. I asked what that meant, and he told me.I said, let me get this straight, Methodists, Baptists, Lutherans, etc. in the same room? he said yes, you want to go? I said, " I wouldn't miss this for the world". I expected a WWF Royal Rumble.
r8rfanizme 1 week ago
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Funny!
Yep. I was taught the same--and NEVER in my life witnessed or even heard of any major contentions between latter-day non-LDS. Such MAY have occurred and I'm sure did, but it's not as widespread as LDS wanted it to be.
42apostate 1 week ago
@42apostate Let me tell you what, my expectations were let down, and It was a wonderful experience. I had never attended anything like it before. After the service, I thought to myself, "so where is all this division?" That was one of the first things that led me to believe that the church was misrepresenting, for a lack of a better phrase, non LD$ Inc. Christianity.
r8rfanizme 1 week ago
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At least LDS, Inc. is consistent...making up stories to benefit the LDS god.
42apostate 1 week ago
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@adam32754
Do you always try to make the discussion personal?
The only "transgression" I may be guilty of is questioning my beliefs.
So-o-o...are you going to answer my question? I don't want to give out wrong information...
42apostate 1 week ago
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"if you had the faith to understand you would understand don't you think"
That statement does not make a lick of sense. Faith to understand? I don't understand quantum physics because I lack faith to understand? "you've never understood because you have never wanted to believe it" that makes about as much sense as your other statement. i do not want to put words in his Apostates mouth, but I think I would be safe to say he doesn't believe because he DOES understand
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42apostate 1 week ago
Schawn i even has doubts, but if you dont take care of yourself you are going to regret it, diet coke it has aspertin in it, its a killer drink, make some sports and to gym, it would be sad if we lose you
CableQGuY 1 week ago
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Shawn, I agree with Cableguy. Aspartame is a killer. Take care of that "temple" God blessed you with. You should google that artificial sweetener. You'll be shocked.
We care, brother.
42apostate 1 week ago
@42apostate * Aspartame is a killer. * When this was first introduced into the market in the 80's, companies were sweetening everything with this stuff. I was curious and wanted to try something new, so I had a big bowl of aspartame sweetened corn flakes. I got so sick I thought I was going to die.
eeikman 1 week ago
@eeikman
Wow!
I recently attended a little family party and the one in charge of drinks brought aspertame-laced soda. I don't drink much soda but I had about a 1/4 cup of some and I was sure I was going to vomit about 10 minutes later. It's NASTY STUFF!
42apostate 1 week ago
Thomas Monson and Joseph Smith don't like this
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God bless you eeikman :)
adam32754 2 weeks ago
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LDS way of believing Book of Mormon: "We dont need to 'find' proofs. Its already true"
It's circular reasoning fallacy. Simply assuming a claim is true does not serve as evidence for that claim.It's like saying:
"X is true. The evidence for this claim is that X is true"
There is no evidence for LDS, only circular reasoning fear and absolute unquestionable obedience, who cares about right and wrong? just obey?!?!. that's a cult!
floryn167 2 weeks ago
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@floryn167 erroneously claims: "circular reasoning fear and absolute unquestionable obedience"
Nice try, though.
JediLDS 1 week ago
God bless you eeikman
adam32754 2 weeks ago
I believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of God the Father & Jesus Christ
adam32754 2 weeks ago
@adam32754
Yeah...maybe...in some parallel Universe...or LaLa Land...
42apostate 1 week ago
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@42apostate parallel Universe...or LaLa Land??...sorry im not awear of this,, you can keep your lala land
adam32754 1 week ago
@42apostate I liken the bom to a book of true fiction lol.
greeneyesangel69 2 weeks ago
@greeneyesangel69
The Book of Mormon is a REAL BOOK! It has words on it's pages (522 of them). It has a cover (Hard bound, Soft bound or Leather). It has a cover page/introduction as well as a Table of Contents, etc.
So, it IS a real book. That's about all I can say good about it--and I've read it 7 or 8 times as well as took a BYU BOM class taught by Nibley himself.
Mark Twain read it too, and said of it, "Chloroform in print"--and I concur.
42apostate 1 week ago
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Often even Nibley would doze off--WHILE TEACHING THE CLASS!!
To me that says a lot about the book...
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there is no known law that says anyone has to believe in this or the other, everyone is free to believe in whatever they wish to believe in, and this fact is so great hahahaha I Love it!...
Therefore I believe that I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.
Have a nice day everyone! :)
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
It appears that I'm dealing with an adolescent.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 & it appears that I'm dealing with an idiot.
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@2011neesh You confirmed my suspicions.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 & you confermed my suspicons
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
Ive never seen one solid revelation from any leader of the lds church.then or now........
lilbeaveymac 2 weeks ago
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there is no known law that says anyone has to believe in this or the other, everyone is free to believe in whatever they wish to believe in, and this fact is so great hahahaha I Love it!...
Therefore I believe that I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.
Have a nice day everyone! :)
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
If Joseph saw an angel (which I don't believe he did), then I'm convinced that maroni was either Satan or a demon spirit. Satan must be loving it. He convinced Joseph to perpetuate a ton of lies called the book of mormon which has resulted in millions of souls being forever lost.
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@southerngent253 you dont believe Joseph Smith saw an angel but if he did???, You dont know what you believe do you? lol.... and concerning your comment on millions of souls being forever lost,, um we will have the one and only judge to decide on that hahahaha
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
@2011neesh First, the Bible tells us that Satan appears as an angel of light. Coincidentally, isn’t that how Joseph described what he saw? Why yes it is! The BOM is filled with lies so we know he didn’t get any of it from God or a heavenly angel. Second, the one and only judge is the very judge Mormons deny so they need be afraid. He is your Lord, Savior, King and your God; not your brother.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 the only one whos afraid is you
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 Except that Joseph saw TWO beings, not just one. Nice try, anyway.
JediLDS 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS It all depends on which version of his story you read. Joseph changed the story several times. Nice try but I know more than you think I know.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@2011neesh As for the Book of Mormon, it is a totally different gospel from the Bible. Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. The LDS is accursed.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 are you still deciding who will be accursed ,,,you are not a judge,, what part of that dont you understand hahahaha
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
@2011neesh So by telling a blind man that is walking toward a cliff that he is on the wrong path and his path is clearly heading for a cliff and eternal death is judging him? The by YOUR understanding True Christians do judge. but the fact is the truth hurts and you just do not want to hear it (Pharisee). Oh wait but the LDS calling all other beliefs an abomination is not judging correct?
Oh and a Parisee is a title that Jesus put on people in the Bible, look it up.
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@Exodus314IAM what are you southerngent2S3's mother?.. surely he's got his own mind to answer for himself or do you just want to show that he is an idiot
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 "The LDS is accursed." Why? Just because you say so?Gotta do better than that.
JediLDS 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS LDS: "Praise to the Man" Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man..."
eeikman 2 weeks ago
@eeikman I've trusted in many men throughout my life. So have you. Fathers, school teachers, friends, neighbors, religious leaders, etc.
JediLDS 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS There a many good fathers that are pagan, atheists, etc. They aren't vessels used by G_d to transmit his will, that's for certain.
eeikman 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS Your church remains, or falls on the character of a single man, Joseph Smith. This is why your church is dying.
eeikman 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS The Holy Bible make it clear that the LDS is accursed.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 Spoken by one who has not, I'll bet, read the Book of Mormon from cover to cover.
JediLDS 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS I will re-read it when they put maps in it.
r8rfanizme 2 weeks ago
@r8rfanizme Even the Lord of the Rings trilogy has maps. Maybe the BoM lands were across Irreantum, or many waters in the Elvin tongue.
eeikman 2 weeks ago
@eeikman there are as many guesses to the lands of the book of mormon as their are guessers. At least the Lord of the Rings maps have stayed the same over time.
r8rfanizme 2 weeks ago
@r8rfanizme My brother-in-law Clate Mask Jr., did a lot of speculative research of BoM lands when he presided over the Mexico mission field. He had to renounce his research as a condition of being confirmed a member of the 2nd Quorum of Seventies. It's my opinion that behind closed doors, LDS church politics is pretty ruthless.
eeikman 2 weeks ago
@eeikman "behind closed doors, LDS church politics is pretty ruthless."
You think? With Billions of dollars on the line, you think?
PS. watching Finding Bigfoot on Animal Planet. It's my opinion he will surface before the Zarahemla will
r8rfanizme 2 weeks ago
@r8rfanizme I have to soft pedal the hard realities of the LDS internal governance by saying, "it's my opinion", because no outsider will ever see what goes on internally. There is zero transparency. The membership can not even hold the leaders accountable as to how the tithes are spent.
PS. I'm 100% sure that Bigfoot will casually stroll into some town and start begging for food before Zarahemla is discovered.
eeikman 2 weeks ago
@eeikman if people want to obidient and pay tithes, what is that to you? we dont want to hold our church leaders accountable as to how the tithes are spent, we give them our full support to the every end....just because you cant get on you want to try pull everyone down with you,,, Matt 23:13, But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
@2011neesh * Matt 23:13, But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees * Pharisees were probably bureaucrats, judges and teachers. Some were professional scribes. The churchmen in the employ of _your_ church are the class of folks referred to in Mathew. I don't have to act like a pious G.A. that nods condescendingly to my followers when they stand as I enter a room. An LDS General Authority is a modern Pharisee, pious and proud.
eeikman 2 weeks ago
@eeikman pious??? you've got it all mixed up, pious is a pharse they would use in the catholic faith, our prophet travels the love of Jesus all around the world to seek the broken hearted, to feed the hugry and clothe the poor,,,those are the things YOU need to do in order to inherit the kingdom of heaven,, Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, and if you cant handle that, i'm sorry,
Im so greatful for Joseph's great faith to be able to finally bring the world out of darkness
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
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@2011neesh "Im so greatful for Joseph's great faith to be able to finally bring the world out of darkness" The same can be said of Judge Rutherford for Jehovah Witnesses, Mohammed for a Muslim, who came many years before Joe, and, according to the Muslim, is God's FINAL prophet, ergo, no need for Joe, Mary Baker Eddy for the Christian Scientist, and the list goes on. "those are the things YOU need to do in order to inherit the kingdom of heaven". And how do you know if you have done enough?
TheJpgr1958 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@2011neesh You don't know. That's why Mormonism, along with all of the other groups I mentioned, does not the good news for anyone. Remember, the term Gospel means good news. You have no good news, any more than a Roman Catholic, JW, Moonies, or any other group has because you do not know here and now if you have true peace with God. And if you are honest, you would state that you don't. Again, Mormons, and Mormonism has no good news.
TheJpgr1958 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@2011neesh * Im so greatful for Joseph's great faith *
This is a conditioned response. St Francis of Assisi named his beasitial aspect "Brother Mule". It's that muleish part of you that's been conditioned to expect punishment or reward from the LDS community. This system can be positive, without it society would collapse, but it's keeping you from discovering some realities that would be obvious otherwise.
eeikman 2 weeks ago
@r8rfanizme your right!, your absolutly right, bigfoot has surfaced before the Zarahemla,,,,,that onion minister on this clip is actually bigfoot :)
lol animal planet
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS I also haven’t read the Jehovah Witnesses Bible and the Koran but just like the book of Mormon, they teach a “different Jesus and a different gospel” from the Bible. Enough has been proven about the BOM to prove it’s all lies. You’ve placed your hope and faith in a false profit. You’ve been warned. You can’t use the excuse now that you didn’t know.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 I've been warned? You have not read the Book of Mormon and yet you presume to tell me that it's all lies? Fair enough. I'll give your warning every last ounce of attention I think it deserves. When you can top a witness from the Holy Ghost as to the truth of the Book of Mormon, THEN I'll give your warning some credibility.
Better luck next time.
JediLDS 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS God instructed us to prove his word and to test the prophets. The Bible has been proven to be totally true and trustworthy buy credible historians and theologians. On the other hand, these same experts provide tons of evidence that prove the BOM is full of fiction. Such evidence confirms that the BOM is not from the Holy Ghost. It’s from a con man, Joseph Smith.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS This is my very last word and warning to you. Test your prophet and test his bible, "the book of mormon". After all, where you will spend eternity depends on which God you follow. Think long and hard about all of the evidence this man presents in all of his videos. If the BOM is true, his evidence has not weight. But, if his evidence proves things in the book aren't true, you need to do more research. This about it and good luck and goodbye.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago
@southerngent253 Who's "maroni"?
JediLDS 1 week ago
@JediLDS Good question! It's the fake angel Joseph Smith made up. You know, the one who he claims told him where the golden plates were buried on the Hill Cumorah. And I thinks it is spelled Moroni.
southerngent253 1 week ago
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If you want it spelled out... dick, then you can see it on my channel. Too bad you won't be able to reply since I fucking blocked you.. maybe you should have thought of that before blocking me. And what warrants me calling you a dick.. is you being a dick. You think it's okay to be called a dick, you just don't think it's okay to be a dick. And regarding the threat... there are many outlets outside of youtube, yelp for example. Too bad you were a dick huh.
whanethewhip 2 weeks ago
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whanethewhip 2 weeks ago
there is no known law that says anyone has to believe in this or the other, everyone is free to believe in whatever they wish to believe in, and this fact is so great hahahaha I Love it!...
Therefore I believe that I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.
Have a nice day everyone! :)
2011neesh 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from testskriftene
@2011neesh idiot.
southerngent253 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@southerngent253 hahahaha
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
@2011neesh
You believe that you know??
Now there's a sweet bit of LDS double-talk.
(Are you related to Paul Dunn?)
The Illuminati believe it is their right to make a slave out of you (which they have about 99% in place). Is that belief okay with you too?
42apostate 2 weeks ago
@42apostate if thats what the Illuminati chosse to do, thats thier choice, we cat force them to do what we want them to do,,,, dont fear!,, we have a eternally honest & wise God to judge all of us including YOU!, so dont worry we will all have to stand accountable in that great judgment day :)
adam32754 2 weeks ago
@adam32754
One of the things we'll be judged on is "did we allow Illuminati to function without resistance to their evil plots?"
I'll be able to answer to God that I did what I could to stop their evil machinations.
What about you?
However. The "Illuminati" was not the subject. Phony belief systems (like Illuminati and Mormonism and even the KKK were only examples) WAS the subject--which 2001neesh thought was an okay belief system.
42apostate 2 weeks ago
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@42apostate "did we allow Illuminati to function without resistance to their evil plots?" oh stop writing about false works,,, plain and simple, feed the hugry and comfort those who stand i need of comfort,,, your jumping over to illuminati & kkk to try& erase the fact of the relief work the LDS church have been giving to the may disasters around the world,,, just do good to your fellow men, (as for the illuminati, Vegence is mine saith the Lord)
adam32754 2 weeks ago
@adam32754 & again, Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and Jesus Christ
adam32754 2 weeks ago
@42apostate yes I believe I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God,, and if you dont like that, well thats just to bad, im sorry, thats just tooooo bad :)
2011neesh 2 weeks ago
Shawn McCraney and his immature mocking is a disgrace. I want to share my testimony with all of you and put this to rest right now. I testify and I know that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true and is the only true church. I know that Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God, I know The Book of Mormon is true and I know Thomas S. Monson is the Prophet on the Earth today. I know these things by the power of the Holy Ghost. You people who mock the church are in spiritual danger.
UtahMormon90 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@UtahMormon90
And YOU are a disgrace to crybabies.
I want to share MY testimony with YOU.
I testify and know that TCOJCOLDS is a business pretending to be a "church". I know that Joseph Smith was a liar and a con man and I know that all the men after Joseph were DUPES. NONE were "prophets" in any sense. I know these things by using the brain God gave me AS WELL AS by the power of the Holy Ghost,
You people who blindly follow false prophets are the ones in spiritual jeopardy..
42apostate 3 weeks ago 5
@42apostate You are offering an opinion, not a testimony. There is a difference. And sorry, but the Holy Ghost did not tell you that the church was not true, nor that Joseph Smith was not a prophet. I'm sticking with UtahMormon90's testimony. I know where his came from.
JediLDS 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS
That's a very self-serving comment, JudyLDS.
If you had the direct line to HG you THINK you have you'd know (with every fiber of YOUR being) that I am correct.
I, too, know where UM90's testiphony came from...his hind parts--where everything else he spews emanates from.
It stands to reason. That's near the location of his grey matter--IF there is any left after the Morg is done with it's sanitation project. ;)
42apostate 2 weeks ago
@UtahMormon90 Wow really? what has been the most meaningful prophecy Thomas S Monson has proclaimed to you? and did he say he actually talked to God? Did He warn the Japanese of the Tsunami last year? Did he take a stand against Bin Laden? What exactly has Thomas S Monson provided us as revelation from God?
Gods1truechurchmyass 3 weeks ago 3
@Gods1truechurchmyass ... that is silly. God allows disasters to happen. Chill out. Take a nap. Take two naps. :oP
JediLDS 2 weeks ago
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@JediLDS said "that is silly. God allows disasters to happen. Chill out. Take a nap. Take two naps. :
Yes, and he also allows stake presidents of the Mormon church to massacre men, women and children. I don't get your point here! LOL. Are you saying that there truly is not point to having a prophet? Tell me something that your Mormon prophets have prophesied to you in your lifetime besides fixing past mistakes like blacks not holding the priesthood?
Gods1truechurchmyass 2 weeks ago
@UtahMormon90 *Sigh*
Shadowrose3820 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@UtahMormon90 If Joseph Smith did this in front of you would you believe it? Coins, breastplates, murdered Spaniards, Urim and Thummin, metallurgy, writing system, and so on all need evidence. Putting your face in a hat with a pet rock simply doesn't qualify. Look what a mess JS made with Real Egyptian.
IExposeMormonism 3 weeks ago
@IExposeMormonism I know the church is true.
UtahMormon90 3 weeks ago
@UtahMormon90 There, there. (patting you on the head)
eeikman 3 weeks ago
@eeikman I KNOW the church is true.
UtahMormon90 3 weeks ago
@UtahMormon90 The church must be true 'cause if it isn't, then nothin' else is worth believing in. Those old church men with kindly faces could never lie, could they?
eeikman 3 weeks ago
@UtahMormon90 I know the Church is a lie so who is correct? Sorry to say we will not find out until the end and then if I am correct your eternity is in a very very hot place and lots of nashing of teeth. I you are correct I still am in heaven (paradise). Now I know I am correct 100% what about you? How do you know? Seek the truth!
Exodus314IAM 2 weeks ago
@Exodus314IAM Ya gotta love these folks who think that God is incapable of correct judgement, so they step in and take over for Him.
Ahhh, Exodus...hello...only God is allowed to condemn someone to hell. You don't have the authority or wisdom for that kind of judgement. (No according to the Bible, that is.)
JediLDS 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS Well the Bible is clear, I am not the judge but the Jesus did say unless you come to Him you will not be saved. So by coming the the Brother of Satan will not save you only the real Jesus of the Bible can save you.
Seek the truth, run from the false teachings of Mormonism.
Exodus314IAM 2 weeks ago
@JediLDS
And where do YOU get authority to tell Exodus314IAM what he can say and what he can't??
42apostate 2 weeks ago
@42apostate I've never dictated what he can say and what he can't. Just informing him that when he condemns someone to hell, not only is he acting without authority to do so, he is offering a personal opinion--nothing more, nothing less. Now, if he could PROVE he has the authority to condemn a person to hell, that would be a different matter. But he can't prove it.
Case closed.
JediLDS 1 week ago
@JediLDS
Neither can you prove you have the authority to bless the sac.--or anything else.
You show evidence of YOUR claimed authority (PH) and we can go from there.
This is really amusing coming from someone (YOU) that can't prove ANY of your faith's claims...BoM being true and "the most correct book on earth"; Book of Abraham as a legit Egyptian tome. Keys of the Priesthood residing ONLY with Mormons, etc, etc.
42apostate 1 week ago
@JediLDS
You sure quickly dropped your phony claim concerning the Tanner's "dropping" their accusations concerning the 3913 changes/corrections/additions/subtractions from the Book a Marmin, dincha? Care to make a retraction of your charges?
I didn't think so...
42apostate 1 week ago