Crysis DX9 vs. DX10 Side by Side Comparison Asus G50vt-X5

[MEETU92]

just out of curiosity. How did manage to force very high settings on dxlevel 9? Because I can only use High on dxlevel9

[dkamm65]

@MEETU92 It's too complicated to explain over YouTube. Just Google "Crysis DX9 very high settings". It should come up.

[MEETU92]

@dkamm65 aight, thx for the tip

[FlyingLaptop]

I think I see a little difference. The polygons on the tree's have raised up quite a bit, and if you were to go to a rocky surface, you could have DEFINITIVELY been able to tell.

[exodo111]

I think I saw a penis

[dkamm65]

@exodo111 I think I saw an immature 12 year old that thinks 'penis' is funny.

[veteran1944]

@dkamm65 be easy on him he doesnt know how a penis looks like

[Dakkiller1]

@dkamm65 I don't really think exodo111 is a 12 year old.

Besides I don't know of any parents who buys their underage children a powerful graphics card.

Even on like my 13th birthday, my mom thought that a crappy camcorder that looks worse then VHS and sounds worse then a Super 8 camera was good enough for my age even though I really wanted a good camcorder.

[dkamm65]

@Dakkiller1 Thank you for that intriguing story.

[Dakkiller1]

@dkamm65 He has posted some Crysis 2 videos as well if you want to look and one of them is some people dancing!

[mrcrazyenough007]

There are just two difference between dx9 and dx10 when running crysis. The water becomes much better in Dx10 and you will see sun rays cutting and passing through trees and your guns. That is all the difference

[dkamm65]

@mrcrazyenough007 The water looks identical and the god rays are not DX10 exclusive.

[mrcrazyenough007]

@dkamm65 my be, but I am using a GT 220, and I have seen this difference

[dkamm65]

@mrcrazyenough007 The difference you see is because DX9 only allows you to select up to a maximum of high settings via the menu options, but you can force very high manually if you modify some game files.

[Silentzio]

@mrcrazyenough007 It's an old story, it turned out 2 weeks after the game came out in 2007, that the dx10 very high setting is a scam. If you modify the cfg, it looks identical. But the dx10 version has a serious memory leak issue. I have 4 gigs of ram and on the last level the Windows crashes, it takes almost 15 minutes to get to the desktop because the game is swapping as hell. Damn you, Crytek, learn some programming tricks. Crysis 2 dx11 is a shame as well.

[WGJameson]

so what you're trying to say in this video is there isn't much of a difference in dx9 and 10?

[dkamm65]

@WGJameson Yes.

[WGJameson]

@dkamm65 Ignorance.

[dkamm65]

@WGJameson Lol Care to explain such bold claims?

[dkamm65]

@WGJameson And just to reiterate, I'm talking specifically about Crysis.

[MultiSheepsheep]

@WGJameson there's no diference at all

[gamewizard]

@WGJameson

DX9.0c is capable of almost everything that DX10 is capable of. That's a dirty little secret that Microsoft didn't want anyone to know about when Vista was released with DX10 and not for XP. There's a few things you want to leave off when forcing very high in DX9, but for everything else it looks almost the same and runs faster. Have you ever actually tried it or are you just running your mouth without knowing what you're talking about?

[scoutbr00]

There is no DX10 in crysis, just the very high settings are locked. BIG CRYTEK LIE

[dkamm65]

@IRONMAN255550 You can force very high setting in DX9 with some tweaking of the games files. The menus options don't allow very high, but you can do it anyway.

[gamewizard]

@dkamm65

Correct. Some people really need to do some research before spouting off on what's possible and what isn't. Forcing very high in DX9 has been known almost as long as Crysis has been out.

[raza715]

ended this game two times one on high on nvidia 8600gt then on very high on ati 4830 and can tell that there is very much difference among dx9 and dx10.

[dkamm65]

@raza715 lol No there isn't. It's a placebo effect. You're expecting DX10 to look better, so your brain makes you think it looks better.

[raza715]

@dkamm65 this cant be the case because i was very much interested in all these benchmarks and visual differences and played on xp, vista and windows 7. Best result (frames and visuals) came with windows 7. Vista was bit heavy. there is hell of a diff b/w dx9 and 10. Also checked some other games on both DX like GTA4 which had also too dark shadows in DX10

[dkamm65]

@raza715 Better framerate? Definitely not. I lose nearly 10fps when I play with DX10. And yes, I'm on Windows 7.

Also, I'm not talking about other games. I agree DX10 looks better on some games, but ion the case of Crysis, it does not.

[raza715]

@dkamm65 better frame rates a/c to dx10 i mean. i got 25 to 30fps on all very high and 1440x900 with AA off on E5200 @ 4ghz 2GB ram and 4830 ddr3. It was fine playable. And i experienced changed in shadows and in sunlight. But not in night times. Most of the change in day time during sunlight.

[FourArtists]

the water on DX10 looks better

[Gearsguy405]

DX10 only adds per object motion blur, and bump mapping

You can only really tell if youre in game, and the game has DX10 functionality.

Still not a big difference

[airbusandmustang]

The only difference I notice with DirectX 10 is lighting. DX10 adds more bloom. And I guess DX10 affects water as well. Other than that, I can hardly tell them apart.

[Avalot25]

no, i don't see any difference :))

[mgbadboyz]

its 2 seperate videos synced together.. but thats not the point of the video.. the point it to compare dx10 to 9 and im sry but i do see a difference.

[dkamm65]

@mgbadboyz I guarantee people would still think the DX10 side looks better, even if I just switched the labels.

[mgbadboyz]

@dkamm65 i would probably notice because i have played crysis on dx9 and 10 and i notice a huge difference.

[KittenKiller]

dx9 doesn't seem to have light rays.

[DJCRISIS111]

@KittenKiller it does... it does trust me

[KittenKiller]

A little late, don't ya think?

[DJCRISIS111]

@KittenKiller lol i know it is late XD

i like commenting :)

[dkamm65]

LOL!! Thanks! =)

[ohaikitteh]

yeah it's definitely not two separate videos :/

[dkamm65]

Okay, then tell me why the weapon sway is moving identically at the beginning, but by the end it's not in time, even though he's walking at the same speed through the whole video. Explain how I could do that with the exact same video.

[0oSektoRo0]

WTF is the same dx only is cut by a line in paint or so

[dkamm65]

It's two separate vids. You can tell cause it loses it syncing a bit by the end.

[admiralmiro]

the light is completely different

[dybro2]

Umm... This is the same video, there is no difference, Its not 2 videos split in half, If it was it would be completely different gameplay on different screens, Look at Call of Juarez DX9vDX10, this video is DX9 maxed out.

[dkamm65]

Moron.

[dybro2]

You make me laugh, you tryed to do a comparison and you failed so bad

[dkamm65]

Look at his arm you fucking retard. Make sure your head is out of your ass before you comment.

[dybro2]

Cough... There is no difference you idiot, its 1 video with a line running down it, Im not an idiot, i know more about computers, and Operating systems than you ever cold know in your entire life

[dkamm65]

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people can be.

[sammjj1989]

did you read the description?

There is obvious difference but little to no noticeable difference.

Although your knowledge of computers and operating systems being better than dkamm65's is questionable, you fail at reading descriptions

[dybro2]

I did actually

[Joh1986]

The fact is, microsoft went through great lengths with DX10 to increase the performance. Hell, they rewrote it from the ground up to decrease the amount of interface calls (the real bottleneck). They added support for geometry shaders which basically allows developers to move more work from the CPU to the GPU. Note however that Crysis uses DX9 for rendering even when DX10 is available, unless your gfx card supports DX10. My guess is, yours doesn't.

[dkamm65]

Oh my god, you are a moron.

[Joh1986]

Even if that isn't the case, DX10 wasn't only intended to make things prettier. A lot of it was to make the job easier for the developers, which it did. I guess this is a moot point for most consumers though.

[dkamm65]

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Look at the fps difference.

And yes, my card does support DX10.

[sukazayebal]

could be more obvious if seen on actual screen.... defenitelly....

[93215enzo]

i do see a difference

[CoreGodlike]

The left side isn't the standart DirectX 9. The orginal DirectX 9 doesn't have got light rays. And if you load a spetial config then the diffrence is realy small.

[dkamm65]

That's the whole point of the video. Did you even read the description? DX10 very high vs. DX9 forced very high.

[xxzxcxxmetwin]

And were suppose to look at your opinion youtube? HELLO YOUTUBE MAKES VIDEOS LOOK LIKE CRAP 50% OF THE TIME.

[dkamm65]

But if Youtube crapifies both sides equally, it's still a fair comparison, is it not?

[xxzxcxxmetwin]

Good point but it still makes me not see what difference. I have a xp and vista (xp with very high mod) and i can see a very little difference with dx 10 and dx 9 but to me it isn't worth it at all. Just for 20 pixels that have a different tone.

[dkamm65]

Exactly! I'm trying to prove that DX10 is useless.

[xxzxcxxmetwin]

vista is a memory hog too so xp is STILL better gaming system.

Maybe when dx 11 comes out we could see a difference?

[tom1161]

how is windows 7 for gaming?

[only1war]

the water effects with DX10 look awesome...

[rkwong792]

I have a G50vt-a1 which has the same gpu. How do u manage to play it on very high with good fps?

[dkamm65]

Tweaking, overclocking, DX9 and determination.

[rkwong792]

Sounds tricky, are you planning to make a video about those things?

[dkamm65]

Yeah, I am planning on it, but I'm just being lazy about it.

[noseguard22]

update,

I now take back my statemen about motionblur in dx9, if you set r_motionblur_5 instead of r_motionblur_3, you get dx10 motionblur in dx9. Absolutely no difference. So dx10 is pretty much pointless now

[noseguard22]

Crysis warhead is different. In dx9, i think Godrays were disabled by the developers and the motion blur in dx9 is horrible. Too much ghosting. I think the developers did that on purpose to make people upgrade to vista because motion blur on the original crysis in dx9 is just as good as dx10.

[dkamm65]

Well I hate motion blur in either one DX9 or 10 so it's all good for me.

[noseguard22]

well yea, if you don't use motion blur, then dx10 is pretty pointless

[noseguard22]

with ntune 6.10 esa, you can overclock your card to 560/1470/940. thats what mines are clocked to and i get slight artifacts but no lockups.

[noseguard22]

actually there is a difference, even though its very subtle. You won't really notice it in a youtube video, but I think the weapons look slightly more realistic in dx10. Just slightly. However that may be the only difference from what i can tell.

[jungleman68]

small difference