Tangerine Dream - Ricochet 1

[newclasstraitor]

This is NOT "ricochet part 1" but "Fly and collision of comas sola" from the Alpha Centauri album. The bit over Am/G/Em/F/E progression in the middle they later recycled, in a driving hard rock version, for the single "Ultima Thule Part 1" which is a bonus track on recent reissues of the CD.

[Stnibar]

But why call it Ricoshet when it isn't?

[chrisbodinsydney]

From Alpha Centauri their best album.

[ormaya1]

Great rare video!!!

[MORIBOSA]

Incredible! I Love TD from this era. An amazing video.

[Alejandroenfuego]

awesome



[alexnordh]

Fly and collision of Coma Sola !

[alexnordh]

More like Ultima Thule, thier "7 inch only" release 1970. In other words the holy grail for any ohr-collector. 

[elektronenklange]

A truly great masterpiece. Thanks a lot for posting.

[bunnyhead71]

WOW..Impossible to find early (if any) video from these guys..Nice (and thanks alot!)

[PAULLONDEN]

Nice ,but too obviously Floyd influenced;

Careful with that axe Edgar.

[rasarx1]

They were into exotic sounds even back then. You could tell they were just primed for the synthesizers and sequencers that were soon going to seduce them and change/elevated them for good.

[VaniaSe]

Me encantaaaaa

[ballrigors1]

i just drank a mixture of 100x salvia in a jug of wild turkey, smoked a coke-laced blunt of chronic, ate a bag of shrooms and did a meth line off my hot, tight 15 year old girls ass and this shit is trippin me out...........now my 15 year old girl is sitting on my face.

[Heliosphan15]

i was about to say....Ricochet in 1971??

[aquamarinedream]

Sounds Very similar to "Fly And Collision Of Comas Sol" on "Alpha Centauri"

[edw700]

German television credits Ricochet, but is Fly and Collision of Coma Sola, from Alpha Centauri... great stuff, anyway.

[jacktheknife57]

capolavoro, insieme a rubycon

[kju888]

Ricochet - Best TD album ever!

[POL2759]

Great to see old stuff like this. Lucky enough to see them in 78, 80 & 81.

[logonazo]

Sorry but this is not "ricochet"...still ...that's good

[ysgwy]

I always dance around the kitchen to this tune

[dadoo1617]

its NOT ricochet !

[silverstartrucker]

Weak sound

[TheDa1sy]

you do not know pink floyd if you think this is meddle

[pulsepinkfloyd]

farfisaaaaaaaaaaaa

[vintagemania]

this sound can remember the fisst fluyd because the suond of farfisa organ is used in both..

[braddito1]

Tompom89 is right - classic Franke/ Froese/ Baumann improv on 'Fly and Collision'. I've never heard this before despite having a good collection of TD TV transcriptions.

[Mrvjmolina]

I Think is pre-71. Maybe 68 or 69 with Klaus Schulze (drums). There's no electronic percussion (as in 70's TD) and Froese uses the guitar a lot. It seems a shorter track from Alpha Centaury. Anyway it's good to see and hear the "original" TD, with the space/psicodelic sound.

[MORIBOSA]

This is a live performance around the time prior to alpha centauri. Ricochet was in 1975.

[Acido1959]

astronomy domine?

carefull with that axe, Eugene?

[billyboccaj]

meddle!

[billyboccaj]

no way is this ricochet sonds more like floyd still sounds great and bout the same time as meddle!

[cholocharile]

Klaus Schulze on drums <3

[liverawkstar]

@cholocharile

no

it's Chris franke,

Chris was originally a drummer,

played drums in Agitation Free before joining TD....

although Klaus Schulze and Chris Franke have similair psych drumming styles in comparing this with Klaus on Ash Ra Tempel's "Freak and Roll" from the

"Join Inn" album or Klaus' own "Picture Music"

even though Franke didnt play too much conventional percussion in TD, he was the time keeper since he was usually in charge of sequencers

[DARTHKRIEGER]

I'm pretty sure this is an economized version of JOURNEY THROUGH A BURNING BRAIN from their 1970 debut album ELECTRONIC MEDITATION. It's missing the flute as well as some extra guitar, and is about 10 min. shorter than the album track. Back then their philosophy was that each time a piece was played live in front of an audience it should be different for that specific performance so that each crowd had a unique experience from show to show--thus the differences between this and the LP track.

[111hutch]

At being a performance from 1971, it definitely sounds more "Alpha Centauri"-ish to me. Still cool though.

[throttlelever]

Ricochet? Sounds more like some sort of Rubycon. I can't really place it. Anyway, sounds great!

[FoxtronInk]

I have Ricochet and this music is not Ricochet, Do you want to bet?

[Marceles45]

amazing sound for 1971

[ZongshenPete]

These guys are the masters and thats for sure

[Jademan68]

Why is Classic Tangerine Dream so freagin' awesome! MrTor1968 I don't know what you're saying but, I agree, Rubicon, Phadrea, Stratos, und Ricochet are FANTASTIC!!! These guys were innovators, not imitators. Swans1997 The Pink Floyd provided something totally different than what Tangerine Dream was creating. One was not influencing the other they were all part of golden age electronic psychedelia.

[swans1997]

I hardly think these guys were LONE innovators. My personal feeling is there are similarites in the grand movements of some of the stuff Floyd and T.D. here, went for. The moods and atmospheres and of course the sound equipment. They certainly weren't that far off from each other, in my opinion. Both obviously had similar musical influences as well. Which is not to say they were copycats, because that's just nonsense.

[davihipnose]

CLÁSSICO.

[MrTor1968]

Die beiden Höhepunkte rubicon und ricochet sind 1975 entstanden. Für mich mit phadrea und stratos. die besten Alben von TD. Leider in Deutschland zu wenig beachtet.

[smkelly1970]

Alex is right- the track is "Fly and Collision of Coma Sola", but the track is off their 2nd lp, "Alpha Centuari", not "Atem".

[alexnordh]

this is not richochet, its "fly and collision oc coma sola" from the Album "Atem" minus the helicopter sound effects!

[baboastation]

This is fantastic to see, thanks for posting it - haven't heard this era of TD for a long time! Great to see Christopher Franke playing the kit too. Very Floydy, not surprising as they were massively influenced by the more experimental Floyd. Reminds me of Careful with that Axe, Eugene and Saucerful of secrets. Wonderful stuff.

[DeRex9]

I almost wanna say, Pink Floyd was influenced by Tangerine Dream, just listen to this piece closely and tell me if I am wrong? Cool stuff :)

[MonsieurCartoon]

Yes you're wrong ... Pink Floyd release their first album in 1967 ... TD release their first album in 1970. Same for the sequencers experimentation ... PF-Dark Side of the Moon has been released in 1973 and TD-Phaedra in 1974. Pink Floyd are the most influencing in psychedelic era ...

[DeRex9]

I stand corrected, thank you for claryfying this issue, since I like both bands very much. Much respect

D....:)

[swans1997]

Another cool record from 1967 is The Red Crayola's (here in the U.S. it's Krayola) The Parable Of Arable Land. Pretty trippy and epic in it's own way.

[swans1997]

To me this tune sounds influenced by the final suite on the track A Saucerful Of Secrets. When the keyboard gets the majestic thing going like on Floyd's tune. The live version., on Ummagumma.I love stuff like this.

[quasarsphere]

I believe they pretty much influenced each other.

[comsunjava]

@DeRex9 Tangerine Dream's album "Madcap's Flaming Duty" is dedicated to Syd Barrett. However, I would bet there was some cross-influence, as Tangerine Dream was one of the originators of the "kosmiche" musik, with synthesizers and sequencers..and this was in the late 60s early 70s before Dark Side. Both great bands, all had many influences. Don't forget the great poets.

[tie32101]

Where did you find this relic.

[desweef]

It was on german television.

[TheAnanda9new]

@desweef CLASSIC!!!

I´ve that also on VHS ;o)  Sounds a bit like the old Pink Floyd, didn´t it?!

[darksideofdarkness]

@TheAnanda9new Absolutely, it has the Celestial Voices spirit.. In an interview Froese mentioned couple bands as influence, which without them TD wouldn't exist, and besides The Beatles, of course they also mentioned PF. Also It was said that while finishing to record Atem they knew that PF was trying the VCS3 and they started to investigate what was that (finally PF used it in "On The Run" from Dark Side of the Moon) and few months later they came up with Phaedra, becoming the TD we all love!

[24db]

@darksideofdarkness TD borrowed an EMS VCS3 synth two years earlier in Jan 1971

[darksideofdarkness]

@24db Hmmm, I heard that a lot of years ago and it made sense for me because I didn't listen the EMS VCS3 neither on Alpha Centauri, nor Zeit, nor Atem and actually it's known that Phaedra was composed with the supposedly the first "jams" with the device... The fact is that If they got it 2 years earlier as you said, why the hell they didn't use it for those albums, do you know?? Thanks!

[Dannymusic1999]

WOW!!! Man I miss the 70's and 80's

[nanard67]

this music is very close to the Pink Floyd at Pompei concert... It was also in 1971. Yes it's rather Alpha Centauri and it has nothing to do with Ricochet created only in 1975.

[Ruveg]

Yes, its not Ricochet, Chris Franke on drums? Alpha Centauri.

[tie32101]

You true. Very close to Pink Floyd.

[JullCzar]

i just dont know what to say, by tha moment

[droogless]

They were very much infuenced by the floyd around this time, and you can here it all over this. But i think the floyd returned the complement around dark side of the moon and its more experimental electronic arrangments that sounded very tangerine dream .

[brittandthatsall]

@droogless Alan Parsons was the engineer on Dark Side of The Moon and he lent a lot to the bands "next phase" by the arrangements and use of truly electronic sound

[MonsieurCartoon]

Strange!? ... They call that performance "Ricochet 1" but it's a live version of the piece "Ultima Thule part 1" from their rare single released in 1971 on the OHR label ...

[DeRex9]

Great piece of info, thank you

D.....:)

[BBBLACKDOG]

Re Sequencers and Synths, Checkout DR WHO Theme by the BBC radiophonic workshop; 1963

Cheers

[vampin6]

I wonder what inspired these guys to make such cool sounds??? even sonic youth hasnt realy masterd technique in this fashion in my opinion.

[srtyxczewlsrolkid]

This is theme song from second album Alpha Centuari from 1971 year.

This is a great music by Tangrine Dream.

Silver from Poland.

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[ozzymandi]

I agree , thanks thedansound .

[ozzymandi]

On second thoughts I think it could be from Zeit (Time), can anyone enlighten me?

[thedansound]

it's clearly an improv based around the style of music the band were doing in 1970/71. zeit/atem/alpha centuri/ ultima thule. i think it's a one of a kind piece

[ozzymandi]

No not Ricochet . Alpha Centaury perhaps?

[FoxtronInk]

This is not Ricochet this is T> D. But is not Ricochet SORRY GUYS

[fronabulax73]

There is something wrong here: either this was not recorded in 1971, or this is not Ricochet! Simply because, Ricochet was recorded in 1975, LIVE! Besides the point... Great band, and just fantastic music!!

[Poeppi81]

a great german band

[philonico]

trop bon ça

[AggManUK]

A classic Tangerine Dream track! A great creation! 5* :O)

[dobrav99]

A Superb creation!

[kaiserwilhelm23]

great piece of music

[cholocharile]

amazing drumming on klaus' part.

[hilizzie]

All right, we heard you. Yes, it sounds like Pink Floyd. Get over it. Floyd wasn't the ONLY space rock band out there, doods.

Anyone know what guitar Froese is playing here?

[FoxtronInk]

He is Playong a Fender Strat D. A.

[srtyxczewlsrolkid]

Great music.

Silver from Poland.

[anoldgoat]

Its from the Alpha Centauri period - judging by Froese's guitar work, and the organ-entric keyboards. Perhaps a live version with a little improvisation.

I can see why the Pink Floyd connection is mentioned - it does have a nod to their style from the late 60s - 'Set the Controls'?

[fabrikk60]

Ah, my favourite kinda Dream. Icy, beautiful deep space that it's hard to return from...

[pathdaly]

Totally agree, how about Zeit? There's a trip for ya'!

[darinnear]

Thank you.

[vokshumana]

Thanks very much, I have been searching this for years, although it is not Ricochet, actually.

[lamecasuelas]

oooooooota que pince pachequez

[24db]

Tangerine Dream: Live Dates in 2008

1.11.08, the Forum, Kentish Town, London, UK

2.11.08, Picture House, Edinburgh, Scotland

7.11.08, Royce Hall, UCLA, Los Angeles, USA

[skitch88]

that's not Ricochet, that's Alpha Centauri, silly!

[devoxtc]

well it sounds more like early Floyd han Ricochet!

[bcoverss]

Thank you so much!!! Do you have TG's Phaedra?

[staplesInk]

on the drums isnt it the animal from the muppet show ?

[droogless]

Originally from alpha centauri, a great record. I would love to see Edgar froese tour with Baumenn and Franke, take the big old synths with them with all the wires hanging out...this is what tangerine dream fans want.

[pica83bo]

This is fly and collision of Comas Sola

[lsdmadman]

how very very intensely bizarre the whole situation is, o christgod....

[jackal59]

Set the Controls for the Heart of the Su... ah, hehe. Never mind.

[qadmos]

A Saucerful of Secr... uh well you know ;)...

[adulus]

Neat, neat, neat! I've never actually seen Franke on his drums before. This is good stuff...and man were those guys about to start making some phenomenal music!!!

[madmomentsgo]

great vid, no seen this before, i would love to see logo's live videos if there's any.

[goblinsclub]

This is "Ultima Thule" (Improvisation). The track was released on single in 1971,as a more rock-like version.

[34xati]

This is like the early Pink Floyd

[qadmos]

Indeed and actually that's what TD's music really is all about : Pink Floyd - Rock = Tangerine Dream LoL...

[quasarsphere]

Pink Floyd and Tangerine Dream influenced each other quite a lot.

[tie32101]

Not Realy. Tangerine Dream was a Beatle Inspired Group.

[quasarsphere]

Them too, yeah.

[miguelwelch]

This theme is from the album Alpha Centauri, not from Ricochet

[LanguishingHams]

which, as many have said here, harkens directly from the second section of Saucerful of secrets.

[zeit23geist]

That is Chris Franke on drums, but is that Klaus Schultze on keys? This is raw TD - love it~!!

[LouiePlaysDrums]

That's a very young Peter Baumann on organ. It looks like this performance dates right around the time he replaced Steve Schroyder.

[amirsh]

Thank you very very much indeed ,dear friend,

you have done a great favor to all TD fans ,

it seems that you own wonderful materials ,

I want to ask you ,pls kindly take more

pieces from "poland" live ,it is a pretty rare material , actually ,where have u got that ?I

[desweef]

It was on german television.

[zosothebelly]

This is "Ultima Thule", a single from 1971

[zoobremia]

Well, "Ricochet" was recorded 1973 or 1974 and published 1975 ... Sorry, WDR 3, this isn't "Ricochet" !

[zoobremia]

This isn't "Ricochet", seems to be a part of "Fly And Collision Of Comas Sola" with much more guitars ... Cheers, Sven

[Bozootheclown]

Wow! Pure classic!

[MitchyLR]

1971 is far too early for this to be Ricochet. Apart from which it sounds nothing like the Ricochet album. I can only guess that either 1) the TV company got the track title wrong, or 2) TD used the title 'Ricochet' more than once.

[rjb2008]

sounds like alpha centuri, really good to see early TD in action though

[anxiousnightingale]

yes, sounds like "fly and collision of comas sola" from alpha centauri.

very beautiful !