Melee is the farthest example of a good fighter. People who camp don't win in Brawl. Example: M2K vs Brood. M2K destroyed Brood first match when he was aggressive(3 stocked Brood) then lost when he camped.
The only time camping works in Brawl is when their opponent is a aggressive Melee player and attacks into shields. Hint: the stupid aggression is why you don't win at Melee either, it's not that you're not technical enough.
@HalfMoonBlade I see the others, but Jigglypuff is the only tournament viable character. What was the last major Melee tournament that Jigglypuff didn't win?
@Tommy090888 Not true. The only one winning big tourneys with Jiggs are Mango(Who doesn't play her anymore) and Hungrybox.
Fox, Falco, Marth, Sheik, Falcon, Ganondorf, Peach and others are viable too.
As for this video, I don't see this as THAT practical considering the multiple taps to do this means D3 is more likely to trip than any of his other actions. :/
Wow! Something like this obviously requires extremely deisel timing, but if mastered, Dedede will truly become broken. Could this potentially increase his tier placement? None can say. This will also benefit a "clown car" full of other characters, without a doubt. :O
@D3UberD3 so does your mom, quite well i might add ;3
loooolll...k, keep ur super campy bros, its clear your not ready to play with the big boys anyway, when ya learn how to play a real fighter get back to me.
@xxTheFallenAngelxxx I bet you have never played as a low tier character. Melee is gay to, just that Brawl is gayer. Also, stop thinking that Melee is perfect, it's not! It does have it's flaws too! And also, Pichu, he is worse than Ganondorf (Brawl)!
So typical Melee noobs, must always protect Melee via hating Brawl. Stop it! v_v
@4xzx4 I have played low tier characters. Melee does have it's moments, like that match on Poke Floats, but there are key differences that make your example wrong.
Brawl Ganondorf is too slow to do anything, has a bad recovery, and has no projectiles, which is a severe issue in Brawl.
Pichu is super light, has no range and damages itself, but Pichu actually has the speed to do something, a projectile, and a decent recovery.
Low tiers have a better chance at victory in Melee than in Brawl...
@DarkSolandLuna What kind of tournaments you attend to? So far I don't know a single serious tournament that has them banned. And besides,banning them is nerfing dedede for no reason.
@DarkSolandLuna MLG is far too different from official. It has shit like green greens and so on. The infinites there are banned just to make it more interesting to watch for the audience since MLG is business.
@DarkSolandLuna his game is centered around grab tho. idk. i dont tihnk it'll be banned cuz pretty much most of those characters already have lol MU ratios against D3.
Here's how I see it. Dedede's infinites are all banned. The rules clearly state that we have to perform a dash between each Dthrow. Our argument is that in order to perform a pivot grab, you have to what? Dash, exactly. Therefore, unless they make some new stupid rule, this will be legal. People are saying this is harder than the IC's chaingrab, so difficulty won't be a valid point either.
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, but it does look extremely difficult to preform. My guess is you have to buff this all before the spot dodge ends....
1) D3 infinites are usually banned in tourney. Unless TO's decide to allow this one since it actually takes some margin of skill
2)This would bypass the rule that usually bans D3 CG's by saying, you must dash inbetween grabs. Since you are buffering out of a reverse dash, got that covered :D
innocentroads, can you buffer out of the reverse dash part of a dash dance?
@MagicCurmudgeon Sure, but the whole D3 "small step/no step" banned will make this ineffective. Kudos if you can do this successfully and continuously though. Looks harder than Icies CG imo.
@GanonkingAkatsuki7 Small step is banned on East Coast as far as I know. By ineffective I mean it would most likely be banned because it would technically fall under the same category.
@Rubberbandman1991 That ban is ridiculously scrubby and has no reasoning whatsoever behind it. That said... HOLY FUCK THIS IS HARD. I could not pull it off at 1/4th speed, and unless I'm mistaking you need to let the control stick give an input, then reset to neutral... THREE TIMES in 10 frames. I don't even think that's possible on the controller's part...
So nasty.
SionBarzad15 1 year ago
omg i burst out laughing at 2:22 when i saw what you had to input and in the amount of time gl D3 mains
Rune2u 1 year ago
@xxxFallenAngelxxx
Melee is the farthest example of a good fighter. People who camp don't win in Brawl. Example: M2K vs Brood. M2K destroyed Brood first match when he was aggressive(3 stocked Brood) then lost when he camped.
The only time camping works in Brawl is when their opponent is a aggressive Melee player and attacks into shields. Hint: the stupid aggression is why you don't win at Melee either, it's not that you're not technical enough.
L2fightergames
Tommy090888 1 year ago
You sound like someone who's mad at Melee because you suck at it.
HalfMoonBlade 1 year ago
@HalfMoonBlade No, I just don't like playing as Jigglypuff, so I don't play Melee.
Tommy090888 1 year ago
Really? You should buy a new copy then because everyone else's copy has 20+ characters, not just Jigglypuff.
HalfMoonBlade 1 year ago
@HalfMoonBlade I see the others, but Jigglypuff is the only tournament viable character. What was the last major Melee tournament that Jigglypuff didn't win?
Tommy090888 1 year ago
@Tommy090888 Not true. The only one winning big tourneys with Jiggs are Mango(Who doesn't play her anymore) and Hungrybox.
Fox, Falco, Marth, Sheik, Falcon, Ganondorf, Peach and others are viable too.
As for this video, I don't see this as THAT practical considering the multiple taps to do this means D3 is more likely to trip than any of his other actions. :/
EternalYoshi 1 year ago
What Recording Device Did You Use?
JonnMcNally 1 year ago
Wow! Something like this obviously requires extremely deisel timing, but if mastered, Dedede will truly become broken. Could this potentially increase his tier placement? None can say. This will also benefit a "clown car" full of other characters, without a doubt. :O
soldiviner 1 year ago
@soldiviner This is won't increase his tier ranking... It's way too hard to do.
JonnMcNally 1 year ago
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EternalYoshi 1 year ago
i think its legit.Japanese brawl players are legit
skaterbaj 1 year ago
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Gayest shit ever
iZoSnake 1 year ago
ok i do dodge and do the dirction right?
Hommy32 1 year ago
k, so now that folks have seen how gay and retarded brawl is for the 1,000,000,000th time now, lets all go back to melee ;3
xxTheFallenAngelxxx 1 year ago
@xxTheFallenAngelxxx This infinite is more technical than anything Melee could ever do.
Tommy090888 1 year ago
@Tommy090888 suuuuuuuuuuuuuure believe that if you want, if you wanna go ahead and believe it does then i won't stop ya.....lol....XD
xxTheFallenAngelxxx 1 year ago
@Tommy090888 Sounds like you didn't do the research and need to look up Melee Fox matches and tecniques.
EternalYoshi 1 year ago
@EternalYoshi Sounds like you assume I'm retarded.
I've seen all of the Melee Fox videos, nothing compares to that many inputs in 10 buffer frames.
Melee sucks. Jigglypuff is broken and the game died years ago.
I'd play Melee if I wanted to get gimped every stock.
Tommy090888 1 year ago
@xxTheFallenAngelxxx or you could try a different fighting game thats not smash.
FavreandMariofan 1 year ago
@FavreandMariofan nah....melee's perfectly fine, its brawl that is the problem, not smash.
xxTheFallenAngelxxx 1 year ago
@xxTheFallenAngelxxx melee sucks
D3UberD3 1 year ago
@D3UberD3 so does your mom, quite well i might add ;3
loooolll...k, keep ur super campy bros, its clear your not ready to play with the big boys anyway, when ya learn how to play a real fighter get back to me.
xxTheFallenAngelxxx 1 year ago
@xxTheFallenAngelxxx I bet you have never played as a low tier character. Melee is gay to, just that Brawl is gayer. Also, stop thinking that Melee is perfect, it's not! It does have it's flaws too! And also, Pichu, he is worse than Ganondorf (Brawl)!
So typical Melee noobs, must always protect Melee via hating Brawl. Stop it! v_v
4xzx4 1 year ago
@4xzx4 I have played low tier characters. Melee does have it's moments, like that match on Poke Floats, but there are key differences that make your example wrong.
Brawl Ganondorf is too slow to do anything, has a bad recovery, and has no projectiles, which is a severe issue in Brawl.
Pichu is super light, has no range and damages itself, but Pichu actually has the speed to do something, a projectile, and a decent recovery.
Low tiers have a better chance at victory in Melee than in Brawl...
EternalYoshi 1 year ago
@EternalYoshi Have you played Brawl and then how much?
4xzx4 1 year ago
@4xzx4 Since Launch. I was third in line in NYC to get the game.
EternalYoshi 1 year ago
BAN DDD!
indignationmaster 1 year ago
Good thing D3 is a terrible character.
Still, this is more fresh than it is gay. That spinning regrab is godlike!
Pierce7d 1 year ago
Back>down>back>Cstick up twice = backwards BDACUS !?
IR you're just too good at this.
teluoborg 1 year ago
D3 is good again.
GoldenHeartNeko 1 year ago
@GoldenHeartNeko no, he's still bad. This doesn't change his metagame at all.
D3UberD3 1 year ago
@D3UberD3 i was joking lmao.
GoldenHeartNeko 1 year ago
@GoldenHeartNeko bc sarcasm can be seen in text....
D3UberD3 1 year ago
No point trying to learn this. Chances are it'll be illegal at tourneys.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna Why do you think so?
amonitas 1 year ago
@amonitas All of D3's infinites are illegal.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna None of them are illegal what are you talking about?
amonitas 1 year ago
@amonitas *facepalm*
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna What kind of tournaments you attend to? So far I don't know a single serious tournament that has them banned. And besides,banning them is nerfing dedede for no reason.
amonitas 1 year ago
@amonitas His infinites on Luigi, DK, and the others I can't think of, are banned.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna Please tell me at least one tournament where they are banned. Because no TO who doesn't main those characters bans it.
amonitas 1 year ago
@amonitas MLG says hi.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna MLG is far too different from official. It has shit like green greens and so on. The infinites there are banned just to make it more interesting to watch for the audience since MLG is business.
amonitas 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna >implying this will not be legal but IC's will be lol.
GoldenHeartNeko 1 year ago
@GoldenHeartNeko IC's are garbage without their CG. D3 doesn't need to rely on CG's to win a match.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna he relys on his grab tho. :V
Also from what i've heard this is harder than IC CGs.
GoldenHeartNeko 1 year ago
@GoldenHeartNeko He doesn't rely on them 100%. He can't CG everyone like the
IC's can. And yes, I've heard this was harder.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna his game is centered around grab tho. idk. i dont tihnk it'll be banned cuz pretty much most of those characters already have lol MU ratios against D3.
GoldenHeartNeko 1 year ago
@GoldenHeartNeko Smart players will use Mk against him. So this CG is pretty much... useless. Seeing how Mk's spend 90% of their time in the air.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna another reason why it wont be banned lol.
GoldenHeartNeko 1 year ago
@GoldenHeartNeko A pound of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna also mk cant get cged anyway
GanonkingAkatsuki7 1 year ago
@GanonkingAkatsuki7 D3 - No. Falco - Yes. IC's - Yes.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
@DarkSolandLuna no i mean at your comment about mk vs d3, mkstaying in the air doesnt matter since he cant be cged anyway
GanonkingAkatsuki7 1 year ago
@GanonkingAkatsuki7 Ah...you're right.
DarkSolandLuna 1 year ago
Been trying this for an hour. Haven't done it once. Fuckin A.
NEresTy 1 year ago
Here's how I see it. Dedede's infinites are all banned. The rules clearly state that we have to perform a dash between each Dthrow. Our argument is that in order to perform a pivot grab, you have to what? Dash, exactly. Therefore, unless they make some new stupid rule, this will be legal. People are saying this is harder than the IC's chaingrab, so difficulty won't be a valid point either.
TUSMROX 1 year ago
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, but it does look extremely difficult to preform. My guess is you have to buff this all before the spot dodge ends....
TheJetHammer 1 year ago
I will ragequit brawl if this ever happens to me.
ChrisTheBrawler 1 year ago
HOLY CRAP.
MrBeegleBear 1 year ago
Wait what's buffering?
jkshoujk 1 year ago
yay people are going use this to exploit the rules on aib :D (no sarcasm) :D and now the ddd vs snake mu is going to be even better :D
GanonkingAkatsuki7 1 year ago
@GanonkingAkatsuki7 lol no. unless you know how to buffer this correctly your looking at IC chaingrab level of hard to get this off
TheJetHammer 1 year ago
oh god
skpk35 1 year ago
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skpk35 1 year ago
1) D3 infinites are usually banned in tourney. Unless TO's decide to allow this one since it actually takes some margin of skill
2)This would bypass the rule that usually bans D3 CG's by saying, you must dash inbetween grabs. Since you are buffering out of a reverse dash, got that covered :D
innocentroads, can you buffer out of the reverse dash part of a dash dance?
3xSwords 1 year ago
omg i was just thinking a few months ago that pivot grab might work as a cg :D
GanonkingAkatsuki7 1 year ago
Wow now DDD has an infinite on more characters?
smashkng2 1 year ago
@smashkng2
Bowser
Wolf
Charizard
Ivysaur
Snake
but it's too difficult.
innocentroads 1 year ago
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MagicCurmudgeon 1 year ago
@MagicCurmudgeon Sure, but the whole D3 "small step/no step" banned will make this ineffective. Kudos if you can do this successfully and continuously though. Looks harder than Icies CG imo.
Rubberbandman1991 1 year ago
@Rubberbandman1991 the small step isnt banned in most cases, also how would that make this ineffective?
GanonkingAkatsuki7 1 year ago
@GanonkingAkatsuki7 Small step is banned on East Coast as far as I know. By ineffective I mean it would most likely be banned because it would technically fall under the same category.
Rubberbandman1991 1 year ago
@Rubberbandman1991 That ban is ridiculously scrubby and has no reasoning whatsoever behind it. That said... HOLY FUCK THIS IS HARD. I could not pull it off at 1/4th speed, and unless I'm mistaking you need to let the control stick give an input, then reset to neutral... THREE TIMES in 10 frames. I don't even think that's possible on the controller's part...
MagicCurmudgeon 1 year ago
@MagicCurmudgeon brawl needs a stick in order to play on imo
TheJetHammer 1 year ago
@innocentroads but with practice....
solecalibur 1 year ago
@innocentroads too difficult for now....
ShikiBomber 1 year ago
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peterdinosaurous 1 year ago