Oh yea, kudos again to PWS on that awesome enhanced buffer tube you guys make... cured all the carrier tilt issues with my piston upper AND gave me a cool QD sling point to boot! You guys rock!
I knew SGM back in the 1980's who lost his right eye in Vietnam because of he said from the gases of the M-16's. even with eye protection the gases would get my eye watering in the Hot Fort Sill Summer.
@Titanium181991 my last duty station was FT Bragg , i now know why soldiers go nuts and murder there wives or crash there cars in threes or hang themselves. What a fucked up place ! I mght have lasted down in Florida or Hiawia. How they treat you there at Ft Bragg, When i out processed there must have been about 200 special forces and General sitting next to me getting out .The way they treat you there ,NEVER! again. ill join the Navy in the next war
@Titanium181991 They will want to fuck you like football at Bragg. I set up some concertine wire in front of my fighting position and i had this LTC coma around and go "soldier whats that out front of your position?" I jump out my fighting hole and stand attention and go "SIR, I put that out there for decorative purposes ,Its just to slow the enemy down so can shoot him, SIR " He goes "Great Job ! Im going to put you up for medal."
I want civilian version of the DIABLO! i want to have the Diablo on my side against the communist invasion. Why hell i think there in the American Govt already thats why they want to put everybody in jail . Communist just about own us, . Sending aircraft carrier.
@GalaticSpaceHero - we make the Diablo (MK107) in a pistol version that is semi-auto and is legal to own in all 50 states! Check it out on our website under the PWS Pistols.
@PrimaryWeapons Thanks for the info! But if it's so..then why is it that on your website, the pistol version has an option to be bought with a bullet button installed?
cant see how you think this is worth the price you charge for it.... $1300 for a 7" upper??? that is UPPER alone cost more than a COMPLETE bushmaster AR15 in this caliber.... EVEN if you count the $200 tax stamp for the SBR....
@catalinux007leiro You sir are a total moron. You should love your country even more when you know that these are in the hands of people who are defending your rights and free way of life. Please move to some gun hating country where only the criminals have guns. The black market doesnt care who buys a weapon. Do you really want to live somewhere you dont even have the right to defend your family.
@yourfaceisuglyful you didnt understand my comment. i said i hate my country for not heaving right to bear arms. its about my country, not US. dont be a fuking ignorant. i live in a country where i cant defend my family. and this is the same in all Europe. dont be a smart ass with me. you was born in a country where you have all freedoms, because your grand grand fathers fight for that. but i see that step by step you will loose that. shame on you.
@catalinux007leiro Well, in that case, move to America. Just make sure you move to a state that's not New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachussetts, Illinois, Maryland, or the "Republik of California" if you wish to have the right to keep and bear arms. Those states suck with their gun laws.
I wonder how accurate it is at 100 yards. Love to have one I would like for it be more accurate up to 200 yards and further I know the 7.62x39 has the power to do that.
@mlj25 - The barrel is a Lothar Walther polygonal bore barrel - so the overall accuracy is going to be ammo dependant. I would expect 2MOA with Wolf and if you get some nice ammo or load your own, I would not be surprised to se MOA groups out of this. The 5.56 and 6.8 versions easily shoot MOA groups with the right ammo and the right shooter.
@mlj25 4inch shot group from ammo that cost .22 cents at 300 meters. thats still good kill..7.62x39 thats all its for .up close fighting, good hog round!
@PrimaryWeapons need the 16inch to make it legal for us common folks..im all for the bigger calibers! ill be taking close look at this when you have it in the 16inch, im not sold on alot of all whats out there right now.there alot flaws being pointed out and for what your going to pay you dont want no issues..Most reliable functional CQB rifle i can find and please dont tell me to get AK.
I wonder if these guys make any of there stuff in 6.8? I think that would be cool. And I took a quick look at there web site and they are not greedy, they are very well priced. Keep on keepin on guys!! Great Job!!
@Shadowhunter712 - We do have a few 6.8 uppers - we can build them into rifles if you like as well. Go to the website and click on "PWS Uppers" on the left hand column. Half way down the page you will see the 6.8 uppers.
@rosspl23 well nevermind, I see below where that was covered. Good news. I worry about the steel case damaging the extractor and having to replace the bolt.
@strykersigma - there will be a 14.5 with a pinned comp and a 16" version. It is very unlikely that there will be a 10.5" version as with the velocities gained from the 7" version, there is no point to having a 10.5" version. A suppressor runs great on the 7" version of the 7.62x39.
@daBAYisBACK - All we shoot is steel cased ammo. Think of this more like an AK when thinking of reliability as that is what we have designed this system around.
I think the combination muzzle blast compensator does most of that fighting for you. It certainly does not appear to be that tough to control from this vid which is an impressive achievement from such a short system.
I have a question PWS - talk to me about magazines. Everything I've read on 7.62x39 in an AR platform regards magazines as a real issue- Are you using AK mags in that or some special brand of AR mag developed for 7.62x39. I counted 26 shots but that looks like a 30 rounder - was there an issue with loading it fully?
We use C-Products mags. They are "30 round" - but hold 29 rounds. Not sure why that one had 26 - but I think you are correct on the count. The mags work well. Much better than anything else I've seen.
Oh lord... I think I spooged my britches!!!
Oh yea, kudos again to PWS on that awesome enhanced buffer tube you guys make... cured all the carrier tilt issues with my piston upper AND gave me a cool QD sling point to boot! You guys rock!
ericx777 2 months ago
whoa!! WTF i like that
kentawagi 3 months ago
bragg is really only for the hard hearts and the people with extreme mental toughness . so of course they gonna fuck with you to weed out the weak
SKDETH 5 months ago
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GalaticSpaceHero 6 months ago
I knew SGM back in the 1980's who lost his right eye in Vietnam because of he said from the gases of the M-16's. even with eye protection the gases would get my eye watering in the Hot Fort Sill Summer.
GalaticSpaceHero 7 months ago
@GalaticSpaceHero Fort Sill /Lawton , Oklahoma?
Titanium181991 6 months ago
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GalaticSpaceHero 6 months ago
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GalaticSpaceHero 6 months ago
@GalaticSpaceHero Hell Yeah man, nice military background.... I live in Lawton
Titanium181991 6 months ago
@Titanium181991 my last duty station was FT Bragg , i now know why soldiers go nuts and murder there wives or crash there cars in threes or hang themselves. What a fucked up place ! I mght have lasted down in Florida or Hiawia. How they treat you there at Ft Bragg, When i out processed there must have been about 200 special forces and General sitting next to me getting out .The way they treat you there ,NEVER! again. ill join the Navy in the next war
GalaticSpaceHero 6 months ago
@GalaticSpaceHero Damn, Now I know why Im not in the military lol
Titanium181991 6 months ago
@Titanium181991 They will want to fuck you like football at Bragg. I set up some concertine wire in front of my fighting position and i had this LTC coma around and go "soldier whats that out front of your position?" I jump out my fighting hole and stand attention and go "SIR, I put that out there for decorative purposes ,Its just to slow the enemy down so can shoot him, SIR " He goes "Great Job ! Im going to put you up for medal."
GalaticSpaceHero 6 months ago
@GalaticSpaceHero Hahaha thats some funny shit
Titanium181991 6 months ago
I want civilian version of the DIABLO! i want to have the Diablo on my side against the communist invasion. Why hell i think there in the American Govt already thats why they want to put everybody in jail . Communist just about own us, . Sending aircraft carrier.
GalaticSpaceHero 7 months ago
@GalaticSpaceHero - we make the Diablo (MK107) in a pistol version that is semi-auto and is legal to own in all 50 states! Check it out on our website under the PWS Pistols.
PrimaryWeapons 7 months ago
@PrimaryWeapons Is it legal in California without a bullet button?
NXPenguinFlutist 6 months ago
@NXPenguinFlutist - in the pistol version, yes. In the select fire SBR - not so much. :)
PrimaryWeapons 6 months ago
@PrimaryWeapons Thanks for the info! But if it's so..then why is it that on your website, the pistol version has an option to be bought with a bullet button installed?
NXPenguinFlutist 6 months ago
@PrimaryWeapons - sorry - I read that as "is it legal to own in CA with a bullet button". My apologies for the confusion and your horrid laws. :)
PrimaryWeapons 6 months ago
Dear santa...
bf2142Fallensoul 7 months ago
Looks awesome. I just hate the banana mags.
person2501 9 months ago
Does this weapon except multiple calibers and magazines designed for the AK-47? possibly new pmag designs?
crazy0ace1 9 months ago
@crazy0ace1 The Diablo is designed to run with standard AR15 mags on the .223 version and the CProducts 7.62x39 Gen4 mags on the 7.62x39 version.
PrimaryWeapons 8 months ago
cant see how you think this is worth the price you charge for it.... $1300 for a 7" upper??? that is UPPER alone cost more than a COMPLETE bushmaster AR15 in this caliber.... EVEN if you count the $200 tax stamp for the SBR....
SpAwNTRiAD 10 months ago
@SpAwNTRiAD Apples and oranges..... Piston VS DI.... You are comparing two completely different platforms.
PrimaryWeapons 10 months ago 3
@PrimaryWeapons bushmaster sells a piston rifle now. it cost about 200 dollars more than the di model.
SpAwNTRiAD 10 months ago
this gun is awsome on homefront
camdog124 10 months ago
@camdog124 Thank you. FWIW, the real deal is even better!
PrimaryWeapons 10 months ago
@Ollie693 Yes it is, and it's going to be epic! We are pretty excited about it.
PrimaryWeapons 11 months ago
when i see this rifle, i hate my country... dont ask why
catalinux007leiro 1 year ago
@catalinux007leiro You sir are a total moron. You should love your country even more when you know that these are in the hands of people who are defending your rights and free way of life. Please move to some gun hating country where only the criminals have guns. The black market doesnt care who buys a weapon. Do you really want to live somewhere you dont even have the right to defend your family.
yourfaceisuglyful 1 year ago 8
@yourfaceisuglyful you didnt understand my comment. i said i hate my country for not heaving right to bear arms. its about my country, not US. dont be a fuking ignorant. i live in a country where i cant defend my family. and this is the same in all Europe. dont be a smart ass with me. you was born in a country where you have all freedoms, because your grand grand fathers fight for that. but i see that step by step you will loose that. shame on you.
catalinux007leiro 1 year ago
@catalinux007leiro Well, in that case, move to America. Just make sure you move to a state that's not New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachussetts, Illinois, Maryland, or the "Republik of California" if you wish to have the right to keep and bear arms. Those states suck with their gun laws.
OpsmanONE 1 year ago
looks like an AK and AR had a baby
siralexu 1 year ago
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hitman74 1 year ago
I wonder how accurate it is at 100 yards. Love to have one I would like for it be more accurate up to 200 yards and further I know the 7.62x39 has the power to do that.
mlj25 1 year ago
@mlj25 - The barrel is a Lothar Walther polygonal bore barrel - so the overall accuracy is going to be ammo dependant. I would expect 2MOA with Wolf and if you get some nice ammo or load your own, I would not be surprised to se MOA groups out of this. The 5.56 and 6.8 versions easily shoot MOA groups with the right ammo and the right shooter.
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
@mlj25 4inch shot group from ammo that cost .22 cents at 300 meters. thats still good kill..7.62x39 thats all its for .up close fighting, good hog round!
spacecop67 1 year ago
can you get 16 in barrel?
Mega2thdoc 1 year ago
@Mega2thdoc - we will have the 16" barrels soon - late December early January.
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
@PrimaryWeapons need the 16inch to make it legal for us common folks..im all for the bigger calibers! ill be taking close look at this when you have it in the 16inch, im not sold on alot of all whats out there right now.there alot flaws being pointed out and for what your going to pay you dont want no issues..Most reliable functional CQB rifle i can find and please dont tell me to get AK.
SuperSpaceHaro 1 year ago
@SuperSpaceHaro - We are definitely going to offer a 16" version of this rifle. They will be available after SHOT show, which is in mid January.
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
I wonder if these guys make any of there stuff in 6.8? I think that would be cool. And I took a quick look at there web site and they are not greedy, they are very well priced. Keep on keepin on guys!! Great Job!!
Shadowhunter712 1 year ago
@Shadowhunter712 - We do have a few 6.8 uppers - we can build them into rifles if you like as well. Go to the website and click on "PWS Uppers" on the left hand column. Half way down the page you will see the 6.8 uppers.
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
@PrimaryWeapons Sweet will do!! Thanks a lot for the info:)
Shadowhunter712 1 year ago
What are your thoughts on running steel cased ammo through this upper?
rosspl23 1 year ago
@rosspl23 well nevermind, I see below where that was covered. Good news. I worry about the steel case damaging the extractor and having to replace the bolt.
rosspl23 1 year ago
Very cool
UHSALTRIFLE 1 year ago
i would like this one alote better if it had a longer barrel, are there any plans for a 10.5, or a 16 ?
strykersigma 1 year ago
@strykersigma - there will be a 14.5 with a pinned comp and a 16" version. It is very unlikely that there will be a 10.5" version as with the velocities gained from the 7" version, there is no point to having a 10.5" version. A suppressor runs great on the 7" version of the 7.62x39.
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
@aquatraxph - I use an H2 in mine - but if you are only shooting semi-auto - you could probably get away with just an H1.
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
I want one, how much are they? and how much for full auto..???
spacecop67 1 year ago
Is this louder than a regular AK47 or M4?
eLoRiGiNaL650 1 year ago
I think the guy shooting this weapon can make diamonds just by crushing coal in his hands, good Lord don't tell him to sit down at a hockey game.
Jethro212 1 year ago
Thanks for the reply and that is a great looking upper and concept.
I was gonna build a .223 and now I think I found the alternative!
Thanks,
Carey
catmanbirdman 1 year ago
What mag's do you have to use?
catmanbirdman 1 year ago
@catmanbirdman - We use the C-Products 4th Gen Mags and they work great! We sell them along with the uppers on our website.
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
what about steel cased ammo...? does this upper have the same issues with it that most ar uppers will( excessive wear...things breaking)?
daBAYisBACK 1 year ago
@daBAYisBACK - All we shoot is steel cased ammo. Think of this more like an AK when thinking of reliability as that is what we have designed this system around.
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
i have lower for a 223/ 5.56 can i attach the diablo on like a 458 socom or beowulf 50 or do i need a new 308 lower?????
rake2002 1 year ago
@rake2002 Yes! That is the beauty of it! You can stick it on your standard AR lower and you are good to go!
PrimaryWeapons 1 year ago
Ready for my first sbr build and this upper is at the top of my list. I have really only read positive things about it and pws in general.
allthingsoffroad 1 year ago
that dudes a beast
rush357x 1 year ago
I imagine it's quite handy, but I imagine it's not fun fighting the muzzle blast and recoil.
esh325 1 year ago
I think the combination muzzle blast compensator does most of that fighting for you. It certainly does not appear to be that tough to control from this vid which is an impressive achievement from such a short system.
olbertus 1 year ago
god i want one. let me know if you need an artic tester, i live in alaska
DangerousD1985 2 years ago
can any normal ar15 stock and lower receiver be used in conjunction with the 7.62 upper?
FoxyFlu 2 years ago
Yes! That is the beauty of it! You can stick it on your standard AR lower and you are good to go!
PrimaryWeapons 2 years ago
whats the best lower receiver for this gun?
HammerheadWOC 1 year ago
I must say I'm impressed. Surely see you at SHOT.
privatewheeler 2 years ago
I have a question PWS - talk to me about magazines. Everything I've read on 7.62x39 in an AR platform regards magazines as a real issue- Are you using AK mags in that or some special brand of AR mag developed for 7.62x39. I counted 26 shots but that looks like a 30 rounder - was there an issue with loading it fully?
SeraphG777 2 years ago
We use C-Products mags. They are "30 round" - but hold 29 rounds. Not sure why that one had 26 - but I think you are correct on the count. The mags work well. Much better than anything else I've seen.
PrimaryWeapons 2 years ago
Will it work with say an MGI modular lower with a 7.62x39 mag well running stock AK mags?
archerpride 2 years ago
I've never used one of the MGI lowers - so I truly don't know. However, due to the width of an AK47 magazine, I do not believe it would work.
PrimaryWeapons 2 years ago
Thanks for the response.
I wonder if it can be made to work? Hmmmm
archerpride 2 years ago
pretty costly i believe
TomsGuns 2 years ago
that thing is SWEET!!!
02lb72500HD 2 years ago
Everything you want in a gun...thanks PWS. Definitely on my X-mas list.
kbschief 2 years ago
That would be very nice for when the Zombies attack.
ARBuilder1776 2 years ago 11
hahahaha i was thinkin the same thing.
02lb72500HD 2 years ago
sweet mother of mercy... gotta start saving
ebpajel1112 2 years ago
7.62 COOL!!! NICE RECOIL CONTROL....
bulaos007 2 years ago
We want one!
FreedomFilmdotcom 2 years ago
7.62? Impressive!
JASE4X4 2 years ago