I believe that the presence of Christ in the Eucharist is very alive, indeed. I remember watching one Asian woman received the Holy Communion on Youtube. Then, something suddenly changed in the Holy Communion in her mouth. It mysteriously transferred into red flesh (and blood).
For those who care enough to allow the Holy Spirit to speak to their hearts, minds, and spirits, may I respectfully suggest reading: "IN THE PRESENCE OF OUR LORD - THE HISTORY, THEOLOGY, AND PSYCHOLOGY OF EUCHARISTIC DEVOTION" by Father Benedict Groeschel, C.F.R. and see what the Church believed for the first 1500 years of its existence.
@badpanda84 Transubstantiation: the miraculous change by which according to Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox dogma the eucharistic elements at their consecration become the body and blood of Christ while keeping only the appearances of bread and wine.The DNA does not change,,,
@badpanda84 unless you are god, it cannot change... is that too difficult for you to understand? Perhaps what you are really trying to say is, "what must I do to believe?"
@badpanda84 --"My flesh is real food, and my blood is real drink". If Jesus can turn water into wine, he certainly can turn wine into his own blood without it looking like his blood. He is the God who can do all things.
So basically you are saying it changes into the body of chirst -- only it dosent really change -- because it is exactly identical to a unblessed communion wafer in every way.
@badpanda84 Ye of little Faith. The Transubstantiation is a VERY difficult doctrine to believe - that's why Christ said "Eat of my Flesh and drink of my Blood, lest you have no life within you". Many of his followers abandoned Him that day.
The Transubstantiation is a mystery, and a miracle. Our human senses fail us when we try to look at the Eucharist with a worldly view. Faithless beings never believe because their hearts are not ready to believe.
@badpanda84 --"The bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh"..."bread...is my flesh". If I was a non-cath, this would make me nervous.
I have read that satanists use consecrated hosts in their black masses, and that some of "priests" can tell a consecrated host from one that's not. Another article stated that the going rate in Britain for a consecrated host was 30 British pounds - ironic, I thought, since 30 also was the number of silver pieces Judas received. Although other later articles place the price at up to 500 Euros each in Europe.
Yet they won't give 2c for Protestant communion bread.
Saint Cyril of Alexander said “When you receive Holy Communion, make your hands like a throne to receive the King of Kings” The Church from the 13 century decided that it should be taken on the tongue only. After the 2nd Vatican council, the Church again permitted a choice hand or tongue. We are not permitted to make up our own rules; we follow the Church’s teachings, not those of stevesilvia
God is offended by receiving Him on "dirty" hands(ONLY priest can touch Him) in the Holy Eucharist!
Only accepted by Heaven form of receiving living Heart of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist of the Catholic Church is into our mouth and on our both knees!
FOR GOD IS NOT "REVERENT" THE WAY OF RECEIVING HIM, LIVING GOD IN THE HOLY EUCHARIST WHAT IS CONFIRMED BY MANY VISIONARIES ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND TRADITION!!!
DON`T GUESS SO MUCH as I am sure that you are a traitor-mason who talking modernistic rubbish and don`t even take example from Pope Benedict XVI now!
@stevesilvia yes, but we are not Apostles and they didn`t have mass as they had Jesus Christ alive with them!
We can ignore tradition and visionaries all around the world confirming these facts!
First Church receive God only on tongue and from priests hand only. Changes in liturgy put in the Church, without order of Pope, was made by traitors-masons inside the Church and offend the God!
@JezusSlave, well it seems to me that we will do it the way Jesus did....hand to hand....even they said to Jesus, " why do you allow this sinner to touch you?" And what was Jesus answer to that?
What you speak of was something that took place hundreds of years later. Therefore, the confirming that you speak of is true, yet confined to a specific time in history.
Masons could not have made changes...I have never heard that, and I ask that you share where one can find such information.
@baldonebear this world is coming to the end and you saying that they couldn`t!
Masons-traitors inside the Church almost destroyed the Church and the sacrum.
John 21:25 - the Bible is not the only source of information and prophecies from God didn`t stop 2000 years ago. There are people,chosen by God, who receive warnings from Heaven even if you can not imagine that as God loves His children!
St Mary apparitions and warnings in Fatima , Lasalette, Naju, Maria Valtorta`s God`s poems etc
I recommend you Vassula Ryden - True life in God as well if you look for the truth and if you are not traitor of the Church!
In german catholic Church they want put marriage for priests and women as priests without order of Pope now, but for you it`s nothing. It`s not about opinions but about the facts and listening and taking example from Pope.
you remain in your sins. Jesus didn't say to believe in baptism. He didn't say to believe in the Eucharist. He said:
“And He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins” – John 8:23- 24
...of sins," the person being baptized knows by the preaching of the word that Jesus came to cleanse him from sin and to save him "from this perverse generation." (v.40) Again, it is clear. Jesus alone saves. Knowing it's "the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth" (Acts 4:10) - that "you may have LIFE IN HIS NAME" (John 20: 31) - and "no other name," (Acts 4:12) should make you realize that Rome's Magisterium and sacred Traditoin CANNOT "contribute ...to the salvation of souls." (CCC 95) Yet...
Yet, water baptism does not produce the promise of the Holy Spirit. It does not remove the stain of sin. Faith does. Faith in His name. My infant baptism did not produce fruit from the Spirit. My sins were not cleansed. Being baptized with the Holy Spirit can only come from Jesus Christ, to those who "received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name." (John 1: 12) If one is "baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission...
...after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified” – Hebrews 10: 11-14
Who is sanctified? Who is forgiven? Those who repent and receive the good news of Jesus Christ. Peter told them to "repent" (Acts 2: 38) first and then those who "gladly received his word" (v.41) - i.e the gospel - were baptized.
First, one must believe and then be baptized. Only God can forgive. Faith in baptism is no faith at all. Baptism does not remove the stain of sin in our lives. Since "it is not possible [for] the blood of bulls and goats [to] take away sins," (Hebrews 10: 4) how can baptism cleanse a sinner. The Bible is clear, He alone sacrificed Himself to cleanse us:
“And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this Man...
God bless you my faithful brother. Truly the lord is with thee! Ignore the fools who place their lies below. Remember that Christ said the persecuted will be blessed.(I probably wrote that a bit wrong) We will see him together! Pray for me as I will for you. Pray also that the unfaithful will know the truth.
"And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now" - Acts 1:4-5
"John answered them, saying, “I baptize with water...but that He (Jesus) should be revealed to ISRAEL, therefore I came baptizing with water" - John 1: 26;31
Do you believe in God's salvation, or Rome's? Yes, the "grace of Baptism delivers no one from all the weakness of nature" - i.e. sin - but grace through faith in His work on the cross and after, will save a sinner. Christians don't trust in the works of men, yet what does Rome say: "[The] sacrament of Penance is necessary for salvation for those who have fallen after Baptism, just as Baptism is necessary for salvation for those who have not yet been reborn." (CCC 980)
"Yes, it is only meant to be symbolic. Chrsit is not in the wafer you worship."
Show us how it is just a symbol. Also explain the following:
1 Cor 11: 23-24 "For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "THIS IS MY BODY which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.""
There is Christ and ST Paul for you. Tell me they are wrong and you are right
@BibleBeliever994 im trying to find the bases of your remarks, but i coldn't its provable berried along with the crap you speak of... could it be that my reply was a typo???? or would you rather have me explain it to you so eloquently that its misleading to our subject. none the less here it goes again: your so called church is the anti-Christ.
DO SOME RESEARCH OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH STARTING WITH THE INQUISITION & THE HERETIC OF POPE BENEDICT.
Such kind words to lakayna, BibleBeliever994. It's obvious English is not her first language. So, allow me to say something about the Catholic Church that is of the truth, and no "joke," thus making the Bible anti-Catholic. The Magisterium and "sacred Tradition" according to this unholy thing, the Catechism, DO NOT "contribute... to the salvation of souls," (95) because Acts 4: 12 says, "there is NO OTHER NAME UNDER heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Jesus saves, not Rome.
@stinkygeorgia1 I as a Catholic, apologize for the rude remarks you must have received from BibleBeliever994. As for the issue of the Catholic Church being the truth, you have not disproved that in any of what you said. The Catholic Church does believe that Jesus Christ saves and is the only way. You appear to be under the impression that we do not believe in Christ's salvation.
@TheSilentRiver94- Your Catechism says, "Our Lord tied the forgiveness of sins to faith and Baptism: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved." Baptism is the first and chief sacrament of forgiveness of sins because it unites us with Christ, who died for our sins and rose for our justification, so that "we too might walk in newness of life." (CCC 977) Yet 978 says it, "delivers no one from all the weakness of nature."
@TheSilent "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us" - 1 John 1: 8-10
Who was justified? "And the tax collector...afar off...beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified" - Lk. 18: 13-15
@stinkygeorgia1 Are you just quoting random Bible verses? I say that just because you're not contradicting anything I've said so far. Baptism forgives sins (Acts 2:38, 22:16) but it does not prevent one from sinning, nor does it prevent one from being tempted (which is what the catechism is saying). The verse you quoted also makes no sense in relation to what I wrote. How does being forgiven from your sins deny that you ever had them? Do you think before you quote?
"me to say something about the Catholic Church that is of the truth, and no "joke," thus making the Bible anti-Catholic."
Interesting.. where did you get the Bible from (according to you) ? When you say "Bible" what are you referring to - the full Catholic Bible or the mutilated protestant version ?
Also what do you call of as your "church" since you obviously are not Catholic ?
@BibleBeliever994 The same argument from a person who does not have the insight into what Jesus was saying:
“Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it” – Matthew 16: 16-18
Read it. Jesus came to bring "a sword" (i.e. division) in the home first, to "‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’" and the world because followers of Christ "will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake." (Matthew 24: 29) Yet, the "sole Church of Christ" wants to "restore the unity lost at Babel." She is the harlot church.
“Therefore do not be partakers with them,” and “have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.” (Ephesians 5: 7&11) So, I will continue to expose this church. I will continue until my last breath. The stakes are very high. So-called Christians (e.g. Rick Warren, Franklin Graham, Richard Land, Chuck Colson et al.) are accepting Rome's call for unity. Have they (or you) ever read Matthew 10: 34? Jesus said He didn't come to bring "peace," but a "sword."
@stinkygeorgia1 "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called children of God" you know Jesus was speaking of things just like this not that we should make wars but that his word would seperate people and that some would deny him. I also don't understand what your problem is with the Eucharist it is not idolatry which is the worship of things other than God and we as Catholics believe that that is the true prescense of Christ, body and blood, soul and divinity
The truth is that what Catholics do at Mass - is idolatry! It is not worship; it is not "the source and summit of the Christian life." (CCC 1324) So, I do not call you a brother or sister in Christ for this very fact. Well, there are many other reasons why I do not call you a brother in Christ. I do not recognize Rome as the "sole of Church of Christ," or that "the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained..."through Christ's Catholic Church alone." (CCC 816) Rome is not my home.
Unfortunately, Roman Catholics just don't get it. They see the physical, not the spiritual; due to the lack of knowledge - that is, the lack of the Holy Spirit. So, they are "condemned already" because they have not "believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3: 18) They trust in the works of Rome instead of His work:
“What shall we do....?" Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” (John 6: 28-29)
@stinkygeorgia1 your judgmental remarks are not bible based. In fact Jesus said "I have not come to judge..." however you seem pretentious enough to believe you have the right to judge... since you have thrown the "first stone" I'm sure you have also declared your self "all knowing". Sorry, you disrespect the bible with your words. I'll pray for you.
It was given to us by Christ to judge between truth and lies. Or else He would not have said "You will know them by their fruits." And stinkygeorgia is right: it is not of Christianity to attempt to put forth your own merits as contributing to eternal salvation. Good works are the result of a new life in Christ and a heart that wishes to serve Him, not a means by which we contribute towards attaining salvation. It is by grace through faith, not works; so you cannot boast -Eph 2:8
So Jesus was speaking of spiritual matters, not of physical things as Rome suggests - i.e. of the wafer god as being truly Jesus, and the wine, truly His blood. For He told the woman about how the water in the well will make her "thirst again," and to the disciples: "What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before?" Therefore, "Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you." (John 6: 27)
Are you kidding? You think that the flesh avail us nothing? Then why did God choose to come to humankind as one of us? Was the crucifixion of Jesus' mortal body a meaningless act? Did his subsequent resurrection back into his body just a parlor trick? Is his gift to us in the Eucharist merely a symbol?
Your comments are one-dimensional and bespeak of a immature soul. Repent, the Kingdom of God is at hand!
Jesus said to the woman at the well, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.” (John 4: 13-14) And Jesus alluding to the Spirit and "everlasting life," said, "What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing." (John 6: 62-63)
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my FATHER who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?
23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
you are from the TREE of killers -evildoers, executioners
In the holy Eucharist, Christ the Lord is coming towards us, every mass is a new incarnation of the eternel word in to our world into our flesh. Every Eucharistic celebration is changing the world towords Christ and towards heaven.
The idea behind the Eucharist is a perversion of the Last Supper which Christ intended to be a memorial of his sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. The Catholic Church wants us to believe that Jesus makes this sacrifice real each time a mass is celebrated by teaching that Christ's flesh is actually present in the bread and his blood in the cup of wine. But Christ is now in heaven and reigning in full glory. He is not coming down again to be sacrificed. Jesus does not reside in the bread and
That´s wrong. Christ is deeply in our world. He lives between us and with us. Where two or three are together in my name, i will be there. said Christ. He is here in the mystical presence of bread and wine, in the most Holy Sacrament.
@FlorianRebel When two or three are together in Jesus' name, he is there in your midst, listening and giving answers to your prayers. The Kingdom of God no longer resides in earthly tabernacles or in any consecrated bread and wine. The Kingdom of God resides in us, his children so stop believing that Christ is to be eaten and drunk again and again in catholic masses. Christ is in heaven sitting the Father's right hand and reigning in our hearts.
@mpenaco, sorry, we follow what the bible teaches, not your interpretations. Mark 14:22 Jesus says "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body" . Then what did Jesus say? "do this in memory of me" (the key word is do this....)
@FlorianRebel I hope you are aware that many of your priests have committed a crime that is so offensive in the eyes of God and man - the crime of child molestation. What has your church done? While St. Paul prescribes expulsion and excommunication for this offense, your church is spreading these evil acts by moving abusive priests to other parishes where they could re-offend. You do not want to be associated with a church that condones child molestation do you?
I´m on the way to become priest! Yes many priests did terrible things to children, the church sometimes hasn´t acted in the right way. Priests who have abused children have to be out of the ministry in the Church. But what is with the many many fathers in the family abusing their children? And the uncles? Most cases of abusing children happens in familys!
@FlorianRebel Child abuses happen in many families because they are motivated not by Christian values and principles. But for this to happen within the church is alarming. The Bible says "by their fruits you will know them". It also says "whatever you do to the least of my brothers you do it for me". Are these commands worth nothing in your church? Why is your church hiding those evil acts committed on helpless orphans? Why are they not punishing abusive priests and giving justice to the victi
@stevesilvia If Jesus wanted his apostles to eat his body and drink his blood, why didn't he offer his own body and blood right there and then? Why use bread and wine instead?
We fellow only the words of Christ. And how it is teached from the first apostles until today in the one universal church. St. Paul begin to teach the doctrin of the holy eucharist.....1 Kor 11,23–26. Yes i believe that God is present in the tabernacel. Thats the mystery of our faith, that Christ is not gone away from our peaceless world, he is here in every tabernacel and eucharistic celebration around the world. Every mass is a new incarnation of Christ in our world.
@FlorianRebel You say you follow only the words of Christ but Christ never said that he is present in the tabernacle so where is this teaching coming from? Christ is in the hearts of those who believe, not in tabernacles or bread and wine. Christ is reigning in heaven as he sits at the right hand of the Father. He had completed his sacrifice for God's people and will not come down to be sacrificed again. Your church teaching is false. Repent!
@FlorianRebel If Christ is in the tabernacle, God would not have destroyed the temple in Jerusalem in AD70 where the tabernacle was kept. The truth is, Christ lives in each and everyone of us who keep his commandments. The incarnation of Christ was an act of sacrifice on God's part - to leave his place of glory and come in the flesh to dwell with sinful men. To say that every mass is a new incarnation is to make God perform not just one but millions of sacrifices. That's not what the Bible says
"To say that every mass is a new incarnation..." - it's not; any more than each conversion to Christ is a re-sacrificing of Christ. Christ was incarnate once, & died once. His presence in the believer is a multiplication & application, by the Holy Spirit, of the Presence of Christ, not in the heart, but at the Father's right hand. Man is changed at conversion - not God. The same is true in the Mass @ the change the Church calls transubstantiation. Christ is not changed.
@5355vbxjbj76rvn Transubstantiation is a teaching of the catholic church which Scripture does not support. We show our love for God by believing in Jesus Christ and following his teachings. This is what Jesus meant with his command to "eat his flesh" and "drink his blood". Jesus said this very plainly: "If you love me, you will obey my commandments." He never said "if you love me you will eat my flesh and drink my blood."
John 6 has a fair bit to say about eating Him - in both senses. People are even told to "munch" His Flesh
As for transubstantiation, it does not need to be in the Bible to be true; most truths are not. Something does not become true because of being in the Bible. As the gospels themselves show.
As for love of God & belief in Christ & following His teachings - those things are not rivals to the Eucharist - the Eucharist is the food we eat to do them, & doing them leads to it.
@5355vbxjbj76rvn Doctrines and dogmas that come out of the catholic church were created by fallen men - men whose minds are tainted by the original sin of Adam and Eve. For that reason, we should not automatically accept as truth, anything that comes from man. The Bible however contains the inspired truth from God and must be held as the standard by which we measure any new teaching. Transubstantiation is not taught in the Bible and worse, it contradicts the Bible and must be rejected as false.
@WayOfTheMaster454 Did the apostles eat the flesh of the Son of man or drink his blood after Jesus said this? No, but they did what Christ commanded them to do - making disciples of all the nations, teaching them and baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
@mpenaco --The words "memorial / remembrance" are sacrificial words associated with the Old Testament sacrifices and Jesus uses the same words because the Mass IS a sacrifice for all times as said in Malachi 1 11
@WayOfTheMaster454 If the bread and wine that are offered at each mass are the real body and blood of Christ, then why are they not changing the lives of catholics who eat and drink them every week? Those priests who molested helpless children around the world, why were they not changed with the "body" and "blood" of Christ they take at all masses that had they celebrated? Is Christ's flesh and blood powerless and ineffective against their evil nature?
Unlike many objections, that IMHO is a very good one :)
The answer is pretty much the same as to the question, "If the Bible is really in some sense the "Word of God" why is it not changing the lives of Evangelicals who read & study it every day ?
IMO, "unbelief" is part of the answer to both questions. If Christians really believed what they claim to believe, YouTube would be transformed. But Christians believe very half-heartedly, so it isn't :(
@5355vbxjbj76rvn But those evangelicals who read and study everyday do not deceive people into believing that there is power in the consecrated bread and wine offered in every mass. If bishops and priests can disregard a commandment that is so dear to the very person they claim to be present in the bread and wine they eat and drink every week, then there really is nothing in the mass that can make a difference in peoples` lives. Transubstantiation is a false teaching and must be rejected.
@mpenaco,you're right. It's so sad, they need to repent and be baptized. Be "born again".Because the spirit that manifest in their lives are of the evil nature (Galatians 5:19-21). ...,"but he who unites himself with the Lord is one with Him in Spirit."(1 Corinthians 6:17). They are not yet truly united with the Lord.It's not that they don't understand what they are doing but they are slaves of sinfulness.Evil overcomes them.
Malachi 1.11 is evidence the Mass is unbloody, because the Prophet uses the word "minhah" for what is offerred - & a minhah was a form of bloodless offering
@WayOfTheMaster454 The mass has no other motive than to raise money for the catholic church. Jesus dwells in our hearts, not in inanimate objects like the tabernacle or bread and wine. Teaching that Jesus comes in the bread and wine at each mass deceives people into believing that Christ lives in the bread and wine. Nothing can be further from the truth.
@mpenaco, when said we had to eat His flesh and drink His blood, He showed us how to do it at the last supper. He said, holding up the bread and wine, that those elements were His Body and Blood. Many Protestants argue that the notion of eating Jesus' flesh and drinking his blood means bringing His law, His words, His gospel into ourselves. If that was His meaning, why at the Last Supper did He not hold up scriptures when He said "take, eat, this is my body, take, drink, this is my blood"?
@stevesilvia The New Covenant that Jesus revealed to his apostles were not in written form at the time the Last Supper took place. Jesus' instruction about the use of the bread and wine is clear for everyone to see: "do this in remembrance of me." We are to remember him and everything that he taught everytime we commemorate the Last Supper. His sacrifice was over and he had already accomplished his mission - to save the sinners from their iniquities.
@stevesilvia By saying "do this..." means that Jesus wants his disciples to remember him and everything that he said because he is the way the truth and the life. All these is symbolized by the breaking of the bread and drinking of the wine. But the celebration is not intended to change the bread into Christ's body or the wine into his blood. But the catholic church wants the people to believe that the bread turns into Christ's body and the wine into Christ's blood inorder to get the people...
@mpenaco, we believe the key words and the command by Jesus is "Do this..." as taught by the first Christians in their paintings and writings.... Your hatred towards what others do and believe prevents you from understanding, and is not Christ like. If you wish to interpret scriptures on your own, then you will. Rather than rely on our own interpretations, we have a church who Jesus gave the "keys" to, to interpret them.
@stevesilvia The Word of God is nothing more than gossip to you. Your devotion is to the foolish teachings of fallen, sinful men. Wake up! Repent from these evil practices and believe the Gospel.
Jesus is in our hearts, that is what Scripture proclaims. He is not in any bread or wine or in church tabernacles. We, who believe in the Gospel are the new tabernacle of God.
@WayOfTheMaster454 What did Jesus say about where we can find him? "The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you." Lk. 17-20-21.
God's kingdom is within you, not in bread and wine.
Thank you for this awesome video clip! So TRUE!!! Our Catholic Church IS the FULLNESS of CHRISTIANITY!! I was once a Christian Protestant, was heavily involved in youth groups with Calvary Chapel, a "non-denominational" Christian Protestant group here in Southern California..even though they say "non-denominational" it is STILL based on their OWN personal interpretation and they DO follow the teachings of Martin Luther, so YES they are "separated brothers" in Christ. Many don't realize tradition
"Cross of the Holy Father Benedict, the holy cross be my light, not the devil my guide I suggest it get away Satans vain things, evil only offer me, drink your poison yourself, the Holy Cross be my light"
Thanks for your video....I love the Roman Catholic Church....I love the Eucharist.....Everyone is our responsibility. Let us always try to share the fullness of truth with our brothers and sisters. Though they hold different faith so that they hardly listen, we, Catholics, pray for them that they may be enlightened and we pray for all of us that we continue to walk in the righteous path. Pray for me.
The Eucharist is only a useless piece of bread, the Catholics are deceived. The Catholics believe in purgatory which is not biblical, it's the devils grant deception.
@mburmy THANK YOU for the info re: the song. I found a CD called WE WALK BY FAITH and this song is on it. It is under the artist's name Robin Kochis, but yes, Bernadette Farrell. Peace!
@GodsS0N1 it's really sit (listen to the bible read out loud), Stand, (listen to the Gospel, the Word of God), and kneel, ( worship the Word of God)....It really helps to know the background and history of what is going on in Mass.
@GodsS0N1 So you think that Catholic faith it's nothing else than sit-stand-kneel-sit-stand kneel. Catholic faith is much more than it's liturgy, It's a way of live. If we just go to mass on sunday but the rest of the week we behave as pagans, we are not real Catholics. I don't know you, and I don't judge you, but your post sounds as if you were just a "Sunday mass Catholic" or, in other words, a vain person. Think about it. Blessings, pax et bonum (hope I wasn't very boring).
"Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself" (1 Cor 11.27-29).
"you are petros ( a small pebble) and upon this petra ( a massive rock) I shall build My church....." Christ built His church upon Himself, upon the faith Peter had and upon our faith in Christ. Not Peter the person.
Hm, as far as the New Testament is concerned, Jesus didn't pluck part of His flesh out to be eaten by His disciples at the Last Supper, which should be the primary example of celebrating the Lord's Supper afterwards. Where does the Bible say that the bread actually turns into Christ's flesh? The Last Supper was also symbolic, the Lord's supper is symbolic. Jesus Christ'ssacrifice on the cross was the one true real thing
Jesus said to the Jewish crowds: I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world." The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us (his) flesh to eat?" Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.
This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever." (John 6:51-58).
We are to judge, but judge righteously. The passage about not judging means don't judge someone if you are also guilty of the same thing. We should not judge peoples' motives. All Christians are commanded to rebuke, reprove and preach the Word of God, this includes to the roman catholics who are ignorant of the truth through their false religion.
No way. The verse says "judge NOT, lest ye be judged". It doesn't say "judge not, unless you're not doing the thing you're judging the other person for". And look at these over verses about judging
Hmm. thank you so much for your scripture references, which i will investigate with my church. I still dont consider myself judging, mearly pointing out the truth contained in the Word of God.
The Eucharist is the body of Jesus, is the center of the church, this is HIS COMANDMENT, read the BIble with more atention, he was right, you have eyes but can't see my brother
Hm, as far as the New Testament is concerned, Jesus didn't pluck part of His flesh out to be eaten by His disciples at the Last Supper, which should be the primary example of celebrating the Lord's Supper afterwards. Where does the Bible say that the bread actually turns into Christ's flesh? The Last Supper was also symbolic, the Lord's supper is symbolic. Jesus Christ'ssacrifice on the cross was the one true real thing
Whe are you going to open your eyes, we have the body of Jesus, there is only one Jesus, he gave one key to Peter , he did not give one key to every apostol, the Catholic church is the original church, all others are founded by men, not even 500 years old, look in your history. why so much hate , true cristians do not hate, true cristians give love, and acept each other as his brother
kiwichristian2009 - The first church was a very visible apostolic organization where Peter had the primacy. All the other disciples were in communion with each other when they spread the Gospel. They spread 1 truth. Not 30K different versions of contradicting truths we see in protestant churches today.
Apostles also appointed their successors. Their successors appointed their successors and thus we have the Catholic and Orthodox bishops, who are the successors of the apostles.
kiwichristian2009 - Ok. First I will show the verses by Jesus. Then other verses showing Peter exercising his primacy.
Verses by Jesus:
"And I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock ['Peter' is Greek for 'rock'] 1 will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18).
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed in heaven" (Matt. 16:19).
kiwichristian2009 Jesus said, ""I have prayed that your own faith may not fail; and once you have turned back, you must strengthen your brothers" (Luke 22:33)."
Other verses showing Peter's primacy:
God sent an angel to Peter to announce the Resurrection of Jesus (Mark 6:7
The risen Jesus first appeared to Peter (Luke 24:34).
Peter headed the meeting which elected Matthias as replacement for Judas (Acts 1:13-26).
Peter led the apostles in preaching on Pentecost (Acts 2:14)
kiwichristian2009 - A Lutheran pastor explained why some protestants denies the real presence of Jesus in bread and wine:
"""HI..well it started during the Reformation among the more radical reformers including such people as Ulrich Zwingli...basically they deny the real presence because of human reason..in other words, since they could not understand HOW that could be...they deniced it and make the bread and wine into symbols of the body and blood...Pastor Lassman """
There you go again. luther luther luther. All denominations are not Christian. I fully understand that if God wanted to, He can do ANYTHING. I dont care how, i have complete faith. It is not a question of "how can that be possible:, it is about "Is this biblical, or an invention/perversion of the scripture by man".
kiwichristian2009 - The reason I bring Luther up to show what the Father of Protestantism originally wanted to do theologically versus what you radical Protestants are doing now theologically because you are influenced by radical reformers like Ulrich Zwingli.
Luther read bible and believed that he is eating Jesus body and blood in the bread and wine.
Christians have always believed in real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist for 1500 years until radicals like Zwingli came.
kiwichristian2009 - Still today, the vast majority of the Christians of the world e.g. Catholics and Orthodox and the main stream Protestants like Lutherans and Anglicans believe in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.
All these people studied bible for 2000 years and concluded that Jesus is present in the bread and wine with his whole body and blood and divinity.
Do you even think about what you're saying? You hate the religion but not the individual members? You might as well say you hate my family, but not its individual members or you hate the black race, but not individual black people.
If your family were conning people about salvation, condemning homosexuals whilst at the same time raping alter boys and covering it up, removing and adding to the Word of God to justify their own satanic false practices and then having the cheek to slap on a "made by God" label on it, you better believe i will hate your family, but still love the individuals.
The point, which you COMPLETELY missed, was that it's not actually possible to hate a family and not it's members, nor possible to hate the black race, but not individual black people, nor even hate the Catholic Church while not hating its members.
Flat out, if you hate the Church, you hate the members. No way around it. They are inseparable.
kiwichristian2009 - The Christian Science Monitor April 05, 2002 edition
'Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant'
rev 17 .. LEARNING ABOUT CATHOLICISM
frank0067 1 week ago
Mr. Silvia, i am sure that many good people do not ask the Holy Ghost to open the Scriptures.Shalom.
Tommy5297 2 weeks ago
I believe that the presence of Christ in the Eucharist is very alive, indeed. I remember watching one Asian woman received the Holy Communion on Youtube. Then, something suddenly changed in the Holy Communion in her mouth. It mysteriously transferred into red flesh (and blood).
gentlesoul08 3 weeks ago
For those who care enough to allow the Holy Spirit to speak to their hearts, minds, and spirits, may I respectfully suggest reading: "IN THE PRESENCE OF OUR LORD - THE HISTORY, THEOLOGY, AND PSYCHOLOGY OF EUCHARISTIC DEVOTION" by Father Benedict Groeschel, C.F.R. and see what the Church believed for the first 1500 years of its existence.
FraGilesMary 3 weeks ago
You do err..not knowing the Scriptures. Why play word games with other souls.
Tommy5297 3 weeks ago
@Tommy5297 and you know this as a fact? We do know Scriptures....
stevesilvia 3 weeks ago
@stevesilvia God Bless you!
christosz1 3 weeks ago
This whole issuse can be resolved in a few minutes if the catholic church simply allowed the Eucharist to be DNA tested.
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
@badpanda84 The DNA does not change...its called transubstantiation, look it up.
stevesilvia 3 weeks ago
@stevesilvia IF the DNA dosent change then you can't claim it is literially the body of christ.
IF there is no change in the DNA then that means -- its just a cracker -- which is what all the non-catholics have been saying.
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
@badpanda84 Transubstantiation: the miraculous change by which according to Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox dogma the eucharistic elements at their consecration become the body and blood of Christ while keeping only the appearances of bread and wine.The DNA does not change,,,
stevesilvia 3 weeks ago
@stevesilvia Exactly if the DNA dose not change then its just a cracker - duh..
Otherwise I can say this $5 note is really $100 dollars -- only it had the apperence of a $5 note.
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
@badpanda84 unless you are god, it cannot change... is that too difficult for you to understand? Perhaps what you are really trying to say is, "what must I do to believe?"
stevesilvia 3 weeks ago
@stevesilvia "Perhaps what you are really trying to say is, "what must I do to believe?"
The answer is obvious -- you would need to suffer brain damage or possilbe be under the infliunce of drugs or alchol
badpanda84 2 weeks ago
@badpanda84 --"My flesh is real food, and my blood is real drink". If Jesus can turn water into wine, he certainly can turn wine into his own blood without it looking like his blood. He is the God who can do all things.
ZebraSpider454 3 weeks ago 5
@ZebraSpider454 good answer! Straight from the bible....
stevesilvia 3 weeks ago
@stevesilvia Its not very miraculaous change.
So basically you are saying it changes into the body of chirst -- only it dosent really change -- because it is exactly identical to a unblessed communion wafer in every way.
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
@badpanda84 Ye of little Faith. The Transubstantiation is a VERY difficult doctrine to believe - that's why Christ said "Eat of my Flesh and drink of my Blood, lest you have no life within you". Many of his followers abandoned Him that day.
The Transubstantiation is a mystery, and a miracle. Our human senses fail us when we try to look at the Eucharist with a worldly view. Faithless beings never believe because their hearts are not ready to believe.
drdst17 3 weeks ago
@drdst17 "
The Transubstantiation is a mystery, and a miracle."
NO its not -- its just a wafter -- nothing mysterious about that -- just a wafer that they probably by from the store in a big box.
badpanda84 2 weeks ago
@badpanda84 --"The bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh"..."bread...is my flesh". If I was a non-cath, this would make me nervous.
Archangel866 2 weeks ago
@Archangel866 obviously not literial-- just like how being "born agian" is not literial..
And of coruse what about the verse that say we should cut off our hand if it causes us to sin..
This is just a methpor -- probably an extention of Jesus is the bread of life.
badpanda84 2 weeks ago
@badpanda84
I have read that satanists use consecrated hosts in their black masses, and that some of "priests" can tell a consecrated host from one that's not. Another article stated that the going rate in Britain for a consecrated host was 30 British pounds - ironic, I thought, since 30 also was the number of silver pieces Judas received. Although other later articles place the price at up to 500 Euros each in Europe.
Yet they won't give 2c for Protestant communion bread.
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@182RG "Another article stated that the going rate in Britain for a consecrated host was 30 British pounds - ironic"
Were is the article -- if that is true I would be rich..
OF course Satanist are just a batshit crazy as the catholics
badpanda84 2 weeks ago
"Believers in sola scriptura don't understand that for the first 1,500 years of the first Christians"
LOL people belived alot of stupid shit for the first 1500 years.. its a good thing our understanding of the world has progressed
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
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Traitors inside the Church!!!
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JezusSlave 4 months ago in playlist Eucharist
Saint Cyril of Alexander said “When you receive Holy Communion, make your hands like a throne to receive the King of Kings” The Church from the 13 century decided that it should be taken on the tongue only. After the 2nd Vatican council, the Church again permitted a choice hand or tongue. We are not permitted to make up our own rules; we follow the Church’s teachings, not those of stevesilvia
VIDOTRICHARDS 9 months ago
@VIDOTRICHARDS I don't make the decisions....the Church does. I know this is news to you, but you can handle it, I'm sure....
stevesilvia 9 months ago
I am thankful for the celebration of the Eucharist.
At the Passover meal, a portion of bread and the 4th cup of wine were saved, and it was used to remember the body and blood of the lamb.
How powerful it was when Jesus said "This is" referring to the bread and wine. The word "is" means to be.
How powerful when he uses the word "remembrance", for in the Jewish mindset this meant "to make present that which is".
How powerful, that he is truly present!
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mondoshrimpo 9 months ago
God is offended by receiving Him on "dirty" hands(ONLY priest can touch Him) in the Holy Eucharist!
Only accepted by Heaven form of receiving living Heart of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist of the Catholic Church is into our mouth and on our both knees!
God bless you and be brave
JezusSlave 10 months ago
@JezusSlave
While that is a reverent way to receive, the problem is that is not historical.
My guess is that you are part of a Traditionalist Catholic community. A schismatic group.
baldonebear 9 months ago
@baldonebear
FOR GOD IS NOT "REVERENT" THE WAY OF RECEIVING HIM, LIVING GOD IN THE HOLY EUCHARIST WHAT IS CONFIRMED BY MANY VISIONARIES ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND TRADITION!!!
DON`T GUESS SO MUCH as I am sure that you are a traitor-mason who talking modernistic rubbish and don`t even take example from Pope Benedict XVI now!
JezusSlave 9 months ago
@JezusSlave
What???
baldonebear 9 months ago
@JezusSlave I agree with baldonebear, The first Communion, at the last supper, was handed out to the hands of the Apostles.
stevesilvia 9 months ago
@stevesilvia yes, but we are not Apostles and they didn`t have mass as they had Jesus Christ alive with them!
We can ignore tradition and visionaries all around the world confirming these facts!
First Church receive God only on tongue and from priests hand only. Changes in liturgy put in the Church, without order of Pope, was made by traitors-masons inside the Church and offend the God!
JezusSlave 9 months ago
@JezusSlave, well it seems to me that we will do it the way Jesus did....hand to hand....even they said to Jesus, " why do you allow this sinner to touch you?" And what was Jesus answer to that?
stevesilvia 9 months ago
@JezusSlave
What you speak of was something that took place hundreds of years later. Therefore, the confirming that you speak of is true, yet confined to a specific time in history.
Masons could not have made changes...I have never heard that, and I ask that you share where one can find such information.
baldonebear 9 months ago
@baldonebear this world is coming to the end and you saying that they couldn`t!
Masons-traitors inside the Church almost destroyed the Church and the sacrum.
John 21:25 - the Bible is not the only source of information and prophecies from God didn`t stop 2000 years ago. There are people,chosen by God, who receive warnings from Heaven even if you can not imagine that as God loves His children!
St Mary apparitions and warnings in Fatima , Lasalette, Naju, Maria Valtorta`s God`s poems etc
JezusSlave 9 months ago
@JezusSlave
These warnings do not have anything to do with liturgical traditions, nor do they prove anything about Masons.
No disrespect intended here, but do you actually find joy in being a Sedevacantist?
Everyone that I have had contact with seems bitter and in constant defense.
That, in my opinion only, is not any way to live the Catholic life.
baldonebear 9 months ago
@baldonebear
Have you read them? I don`t think so!
I recommend you Vassula Ryden - True life in God as well if you look for the truth and if you are not traitor of the Church!
In german catholic Church they want put marriage for priests and women as priests without order of Pope now, but for you it`s nothing. It`s not about opinions but about the facts and listening and taking example from Pope.
Talk you rubbish for someone else please
JezusSlave 9 months ago
@JezusSlave
Rubbish? hmmmm...
Who are you to determine what I have and have not read?
Do you remember me asking you for information? I did.
Please, let;s have a civil conversation.
baldonebear 9 months ago
@baldonebear I don˛t discuss with devil!
JezusSlave 9 months ago
@JezusSlave
It is good that you do not discuss with the devil.
You made so some strong claims...now back it up. Cut and run is merely immature.
baldonebear 9 months ago
you remain in your sins. Jesus didn't say to believe in baptism. He didn't say to believe in the Eucharist. He said:
“And He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins” – John 8:23- 24
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
...of sins," the person being baptized knows by the preaching of the word that Jesus came to cleanse him from sin and to save him "from this perverse generation." (v.40) Again, it is clear. Jesus alone saves. Knowing it's "the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth" (Acts 4:10) - that "you may have LIFE IN HIS NAME" (John 20: 31) - and "no other name," (Acts 4:12) should make you realize that Rome's Magisterium and sacred Traditoin CANNOT "contribute ...to the salvation of souls." (CCC 95) Yet...
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
Yet, water baptism does not produce the promise of the Holy Spirit. It does not remove the stain of sin. Faith does. Faith in His name. My infant baptism did not produce fruit from the Spirit. My sins were not cleansed. Being baptized with the Holy Spirit can only come from Jesus Christ, to those who "received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name." (John 1: 12) If one is "baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission...
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
@stinkygeorgia1 --Jesus said that water baptism is needed for salvation in John ch 3.
WayOfTheMaster454 11 months ago
@stinkygeorgia1 "Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of WATER AND Spirit." (John 3:5-emphasis mine)
mburmy 10 months ago
...after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified” – Hebrews 10: 11-14
Who is sanctified? Who is forgiven? Those who repent and receive the good news of Jesus Christ. Peter told them to "repent" (Acts 2: 38) first and then those who "gladly received his word" (v.41) - i.e the gospel - were baptized.
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
First, one must believe and then be baptized. Only God can forgive. Faith in baptism is no faith at all. Baptism does not remove the stain of sin in our lives. Since "it is not possible [for] the blood of bulls and goats [to] take away sins," (Hebrews 10: 4) how can baptism cleanse a sinner. The Bible is clear, He alone sacrificed Himself to cleanse us:
“And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this Man...
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
stevesilvia,
God bless you my faithful brother. Truly the lord is with thee! Ignore the fools who place their lies below. Remember that Christ said the persecuted will be blessed.(I probably wrote that a bit wrong) We will see him together! Pray for me as I will for you. Pray also that the unfaithful will know the truth.
The Lord's blessings be upon you forever!
Echumenism 11 months ago
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"And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now" - Acts 1:4-5
"John answered them, saying, “I baptize with water...but that He (Jesus) should be revealed to ISRAEL, therefore I came baptizing with water" - John 1: 26;31
Verse 33 confirms Jesus' word in Acts 1
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
Do you believe in God's salvation, or Rome's? Yes, the "grace of Baptism delivers no one from all the weakness of nature" - i.e. sin - but grace through faith in His work on the cross and after, will save a sinner. Christians don't trust in the works of men, yet what does Rome say: "[The] sacrament of Penance is necessary for salvation for those who have fallen after Baptism, just as Baptism is necessary for salvation for those who have not yet been reborn." (CCC 980)
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
Yes, it is only meant to be symbolic. Chrsit is not in the wafer you worship. Why worship a piece of bread when you can worship the risen Lord.
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
@stinkygeorgia1
"Yes, it is only meant to be symbolic. Chrsit is not in the wafer you worship."
Show us how it is just a symbol. Also explain the following:
1 Cor 11: 23-24 "For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "THIS IS MY BODY which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.""
There is Christ and ST Paul for you. Tell me they are wrong and you are right
MrJamesthecatholic 10 months ago
@BibleBeliever994 im trying to find the bases of your remarks, but i coldn't its provable berried along with the crap you speak of... could it be that my reply was a typo???? or would you rather have me explain it to you so eloquently that its misleading to our subject. none the less here it goes again: your so called church is the anti-Christ.
DO SOME RESEARCH OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH STARTING WITH THE INQUISITION & THE HERETIC OF POPE BENEDICT.
lakayna 11 months ago
@BibleBeliever994 HAHAHA, REGARDLESS THAT SKILLS, TRUTH IS THE TRUTH....
where in the Bible does it says you are to bow to ANY GRAVEN IMAGES,.....
AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A BibleBeliever994
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. most of my comments are in a question form, so to give you things to think about -hahaha
lakayna 11 months ago
Such kind words to lakayna, BibleBeliever994. It's obvious English is not her first language. So, allow me to say something about the Catholic Church that is of the truth, and no "joke," thus making the Bible anti-Catholic. The Magisterium and "sacred Tradition" according to this unholy thing, the Catechism, DO NOT "contribute... to the salvation of souls," (95) because Acts 4: 12 says, "there is NO OTHER NAME UNDER heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Jesus saves, not Rome.
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
@stinkygeorgia1 I as a Catholic, apologize for the rude remarks you must have received from BibleBeliever994. As for the issue of the Catholic Church being the truth, you have not disproved that in any of what you said. The Catholic Church does believe that Jesus Christ saves and is the only way. You appear to be under the impression that we do not believe in Christ's salvation.
TheSilentRiver94 11 months ago
@TheSilentRiver94- Your Catechism says, "Our Lord tied the forgiveness of sins to faith and Baptism: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved." Baptism is the first and chief sacrament of forgiveness of sins because it unites us with Christ, who died for our sins and rose for our justification, so that "we too might walk in newness of life." (CCC 977) Yet 978 says it, "delivers no one from all the weakness of nature."
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
@stinkygeorgia1 Yes. Baptism forgives sins but doesn't stop you from being tempted. Is it really that hard to understand?
TheSilentRiver94 11 months ago
@TheSilent "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us" - 1 John 1: 8-10
Who was justified? "And the tax collector...afar off...beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified" - Lk. 18: 13-15
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
@stinkygeorgia1 Are you just quoting random Bible verses? I say that just because you're not contradicting anything I've said so far. Baptism forgives sins (Acts 2:38, 22:16) but it does not prevent one from sinning, nor does it prevent one from being tempted (which is what the catechism is saying). The verse you quoted also makes no sense in relation to what I wrote. How does being forgiven from your sins deny that you ever had them? Do you think before you quote?
TheSilentRiver94 11 months ago
@stinkygeorgia1
"me to say something about the Catholic Church that is of the truth, and no "joke," thus making the Bible anti-Catholic."
Interesting.. where did you get the Bible from (according to you) ? When you say "Bible" what are you referring to - the full Catholic Bible or the mutilated protestant version ?
Also what do you call of as your "church" since you obviously are not Catholic ?
MrJamesthecatholic 10 months ago
@BibleBeliever994 The same argument from a person who does not have the insight into what Jesus was saying:
“Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it” – Matthew 16: 16-18
stinkygeorgia1 11 months ago
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Read it. Jesus came to bring "a sword" (i.e. division) in the home first, to "‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’" and the world because followers of Christ "will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake." (Matthew 24: 29) Yet, the "sole Church of Christ" wants to "restore the unity lost at Babel." She is the harlot church.
stinkygeorgia1 1 year ago
“Therefore do not be partakers with them,” and “have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.” (Ephesians 5: 7&11) So, I will continue to expose this church. I will continue until my last breath. The stakes are very high. So-called Christians (e.g. Rick Warren, Franklin Graham, Richard Land, Chuck Colson et al.) are accepting Rome's call for unity. Have they (or you) ever read Matthew 10: 34? Jesus said He didn't come to bring "peace," but a "sword."
stinkygeorgia1 1 year ago
@stinkygeorgia1 "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called children of God" you know Jesus was speaking of things just like this not that we should make wars but that his word would seperate people and that some would deny him. I also don't understand what your problem is with the Eucharist it is not idolatry which is the worship of things other than God and we as Catholics believe that that is the true prescense of Christ, body and blood, soul and divinity
MagicMartin5 11 months ago
The truth is that what Catholics do at Mass - is idolatry! It is not worship; it is not "the source and summit of the Christian life." (CCC 1324) So, I do not call you a brother or sister in Christ for this very fact. Well, there are many other reasons why I do not call you a brother in Christ. I do not recognize Rome as the "sole of Church of Christ," or that "the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained..."through Christ's Catholic Church alone." (CCC 816) Rome is not my home.
stinkygeorgia1 1 year ago
Unfortunately, Roman Catholics just don't get it. They see the physical, not the spiritual; due to the lack of knowledge - that is, the lack of the Holy Spirit. So, they are "condemned already" because they have not "believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3: 18) They trust in the works of Rome instead of His work:
“What shall we do....?" Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” (John 6: 28-29)
stinkygeorgia1 1 year ago
@stinkygeorgia1 your judgmental remarks are not bible based. In fact Jesus said "I have not come to judge..." however you seem pretentious enough to believe you have the right to judge... since you have thrown the "first stone" I'm sure you have also declared your self "all knowing". Sorry, you disrespect the bible with your words. I'll pray for you.
stevesilvia 1 year ago
@stevesilvia
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It was given to us by Christ to judge between truth and lies. Or else He would not have said "You will know them by their fruits." And stinkygeorgia is right: it is not of Christianity to attempt to put forth your own merits as contributing to eternal salvation. Good works are the result of a new life in Christ and a heart that wishes to serve Him, not a means by which we contribute towards attaining salvation. It is by grace through faith, not works; so you cannot boast -Eph 2:8
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@stinkygeorgia1
You have no right to judge others. How can you call yourself a Christian?
theuniverseissilent 11 months ago
So Jesus was speaking of spiritual matters, not of physical things as Rome suggests - i.e. of the wafer god as being truly Jesus, and the wine, truly His blood. For He told the woman about how the water in the well will make her "thirst again," and to the disciples: "What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before?" Therefore, "Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you." (John 6: 27)
stinkygeorgia1 1 year ago
@stinkygeorgia1
Are you kidding? You think that the flesh avail us nothing? Then why did God choose to come to humankind as one of us? Was the crucifixion of Jesus' mortal body a meaningless act? Did his subsequent resurrection back into his body just a parlor trick? Is his gift to us in the Eucharist merely a symbol?
Your comments are one-dimensional and bespeak of a immature soul. Repent, the Kingdom of God is at hand!
theuniverseissilent 11 months ago
Jesus said to the woman at the well, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.” (John 4: 13-14) And Jesus alluding to the Spirit and "everlasting life," said, "What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing." (John 6: 62-63)
stinkygeorgia1 1 year ago
MATTHEW 7
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my FATHER who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?
23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
you are from the TREE of killers -evildoers, executioners
blood on your hands
lakayna 1 year ago
@kalayna, you're too judgemental...I am sharing my faith here with everyone, if you have a question, just ask. You are in my prayers.
stevesilvia 1 year ago
@stevesilvia AMEN TO THAT IM GLAD I CAME OUT TO YOU THIS WAY - THE TRUTH
YOU ALSO GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS FROM MANY MANY DAYS OF CONVERSATIONS - RIGHT
IT WAY PAST YOUR VIDEO - SORRY ABOUT THAT
IF PEOPLE ATTACK JESUS I DEFEND IT & I AM SO HAPPY, SO SO HAPPY THAT THE TRUTH STILL STING
lakayna 1 year ago
@lakayna
lakayna 11 months ago
@lakayna
Your comments are meaningless and lack a context. You have proven nothing.
theuniverseissilent 11 months ago
@theuniverseissilent then maybe this will help you:
1- are you worshipping idols?
2 - are you parading saints?
3 - are you following the priest instead of Jesus?
4- did you know how the catholic church got very popular? by inquisitions - murder -
5- catholicism is a 2000 mistake, but then again you'll just waive this off & follow your priest that follow the pope that follow the anitchrist
lakayna 11 months ago
@lakayna
Was Shakespeare right? If ignorance be blist, tis folly to be wise?
moron
theuniverseissilent 11 months ago
@theuniverseissilent wow, thats explains alot??? ahhhhhhh NOT
lakayna 11 months ago
In the holy Eucharist, Christ the Lord is coming towards us, every mass is a new incarnation of the eternel word in to our world into our flesh. Every Eucharistic celebration is changing the world towords Christ and towards heaven.
FlorianRebel 1 year ago
(continued) wine anymore. He now resides in the hearts of his followers.
mpenaco 1 year ago
The idea behind the Eucharist is a perversion of the Last Supper which Christ intended to be a memorial of his sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. The Catholic Church wants us to believe that Jesus makes this sacrifice real each time a mass is celebrated by teaching that Christ's flesh is actually present in the bread and his blood in the cup of wine. But Christ is now in heaven and reigning in full glory. He is not coming down again to be sacrificed. Jesus does not reside in the bread and
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco
That´s wrong. Christ is deeply in our world. He lives between us and with us. Where two or three are together in my name, i will be there. said Christ. He is here in the mystical presence of bread and wine, in the most Holy Sacrament.
FlorianRebel 1 year ago
@FlorianRebel When two or three are together in Jesus' name, he is there in your midst, listening and giving answers to your prayers. The Kingdom of God no longer resides in earthly tabernacles or in any consecrated bread and wine. The Kingdom of God resides in us, his children so stop believing that Christ is to be eaten and drunk again and again in catholic masses. Christ is in heaven sitting the Father's right hand and reigning in our hearts.
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco, sorry, we follow what the bible teaches, not your interpretations. Mark 14:22 Jesus says "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body" . Then what did Jesus say? "do this in memory of me" (the key word is do this....)
stevesilvia 1 year ago
@stevesilvia
Thank you for the answer. And God bless you! I´m a young student for the priesthood from Germany. I like your videos about the priest.
FlorianRebel 1 year ago
@FlorianRebel I hope you are aware that many of your priests have committed a crime that is so offensive in the eyes of God and man - the crime of child molestation. What has your church done? While St. Paul prescribes expulsion and excommunication for this offense, your church is spreading these evil acts by moving abusive priests to other parishes where they could re-offend. You do not want to be associated with a church that condones child molestation do you?
ScripturesAlone 1 year ago
@ScripturesAlone
I´m on the way to become priest! Yes many priests did terrible things to children, the church sometimes hasn´t acted in the right way. Priests who have abused children have to be out of the ministry in the Church. But what is with the many many fathers in the family abusing their children? And the uncles? Most cases of abusing children happens in familys!
FlorianRebel 1 year ago
@FlorianRebel Child abuses happen in many families because they are motivated not by Christian values and principles. But for this to happen within the church is alarming. The Bible says "by their fruits you will know them". It also says "whatever you do to the least of my brothers you do it for me". Are these commands worth nothing in your church? Why is your church hiding those evil acts committed on helpless orphans? Why are they not punishing abusive priests and giving justice to the victi
mpenaco 1 year ago
@stevesilvia If Jesus wanted his apostles to eat his body and drink his blood, why didn't he offer his own body and blood right there and then? Why use bread and wine instead?
ScripturesAlone 1 year ago
@mpenaco
We fellow only the words of Christ. And how it is teached from the first apostles until today in the one universal church. St. Paul begin to teach the doctrin of the holy eucharist.....1 Kor 11,23–26. Yes i believe that God is present in the tabernacel. Thats the mystery of our faith, that Christ is not gone away from our peaceless world, he is here in every tabernacel and eucharistic celebration around the world. Every mass is a new incarnation of Christ in our world.
FlorianRebel 1 year ago
@FlorianRebel You say you follow only the words of Christ but Christ never said that he is present in the tabernacle so where is this teaching coming from? Christ is in the hearts of those who believe, not in tabernacles or bread and wine. Christ is reigning in heaven as he sits at the right hand of the Father. He had completed his sacrifice for God's people and will not come down to be sacrificed again. Your church teaching is false. Repent!
ScripturesAlone 1 year ago
@FlorianRebel If Christ is in the tabernacle, God would not have destroyed the temple in Jerusalem in AD70 where the tabernacle was kept. The truth is, Christ lives in each and everyone of us who keep his commandments. The incarnation of Christ was an act of sacrifice on God's part - to leave his place of glory and come in the flesh to dwell with sinful men. To say that every mass is a new incarnation is to make God perform not just one but millions of sacrifices. That's not what the Bible says
ScripturesAlone 1 year ago
@ScripturesAlone
"To say that every mass is a new incarnation..." - it's not; any more than each conversion to Christ is a re-sacrificing of Christ. Christ was incarnate once, & died once. His presence in the believer is a multiplication & application, by the Holy Spirit, of the Presence of Christ, not in the heart, but at the Father's right hand. Man is changed at conversion - not God. The same is true in the Mass @ the change the Church calls transubstantiation. Christ is not changed.
5355vbxjbj76rvn 1 year ago
@5355vbxjbj76rvn Transubstantiation is a teaching of the catholic church which Scripture does not support. We show our love for God by believing in Jesus Christ and following his teachings. This is what Jesus meant with his command to "eat his flesh" and "drink his blood". Jesus said this very plainly: "If you love me, you will obey my commandments." He never said "if you love me you will eat my flesh and drink my blood."
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco
John 6 has a fair bit to say about eating Him - in both senses. People are even told to "munch" His Flesh
As for transubstantiation, it does not need to be in the Bible to be true; most truths are not. Something does not become true because of being in the Bible. As the gospels themselves show.
As for love of God & belief in Christ & following His teachings - those things are not rivals to the Eucharist - the Eucharist is the food we eat to do them, & doing them leads to it.
5355vbxjbj76rvn 1 year ago
@5355vbxjbj76rvn Doctrines and dogmas that come out of the catholic church were created by fallen men - men whose minds are tainted by the original sin of Adam and Eve. For that reason, we should not automatically accept as truth, anything that comes from man. The Bible however contains the inspired truth from God and must be held as the standard by which we measure any new teaching. Transubstantiation is not taught in the Bible and worse, it contradicts the Bible and must be rejected as false.
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco --"Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood you will have no life in you" -God
WayOfTheMaster454 1 year ago
@WayOfTheMaster454 Did the apostles eat the flesh of the Son of man or drink his blood after Jesus said this? No, but they did what Christ commanded them to do - making disciples of all the nations, teaching them and baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco --The words "memorial / remembrance" are sacrificial words associated with the Old Testament sacrifices and Jesus uses the same words because the Mass IS a sacrifice for all times as said in Malachi 1 11
WayOfTheMaster454 1 year ago
@WayOfTheMaster454 If the bread and wine that are offered at each mass are the real body and blood of Christ, then why are they not changing the lives of catholics who eat and drink them every week? Those priests who molested helpless children around the world, why were they not changed with the "body" and "blood" of Christ they take at all masses that had they celebrated? Is Christ's flesh and blood powerless and ineffective against their evil nature?
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco
Unlike many objections, that IMHO is a very good one :)
The answer is pretty much the same as to the question, "If the Bible is really in some sense the "Word of God" why is it not changing the lives of Evangelicals who read & study it every day ?
IMO, "unbelief" is part of the answer to both questions. If Christians really believed what they claim to believe, YouTube would be transformed. But Christians believe very half-heartedly, so it isn't :(
5355vbxjbj76rvn 1 year ago
@5355vbxjbj76rvn But those evangelicals who read and study everyday do not deceive people into believing that there is power in the consecrated bread and wine offered in every mass. If bishops and priests can disregard a commandment that is so dear to the very person they claim to be present in the bread and wine they eat and drink every week, then there really is nothing in the mass that can make a difference in peoples` lives. Transubstantiation is a false teaching and must be rejected.
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco,you're right. It's so sad, they need to repent and be baptized. Be "born again".Because the spirit that manifest in their lives are of the evil nature (Galatians 5:19-21). ...,"but he who unites himself with the Lord is one with Him in Spirit."(1 Corinthians 6:17). They are not yet truly united with the Lord.It's not that they don't understand what they are doing but they are slaves of sinfulness.Evil overcomes them.
djangoxpress 1 year ago
@WayOfTheMaster454
Malachi 1.11 is evidence the Mass is unbloody, because the Prophet uses the word "minhah" for what is offerred - & a minhah was a form of bloodless offering
5355vbxjbj76rvn 1 year ago
@WayOfTheMaster454 The mass has no other motive than to raise money for the catholic church. Jesus dwells in our hearts, not in inanimate objects like the tabernacle or bread and wine. Teaching that Jesus comes in the bread and wine at each mass deceives people into believing that Christ lives in the bread and wine. Nothing can be further from the truth.
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco, when said we had to eat His flesh and drink His blood, He showed us how to do it at the last supper. He said, holding up the bread and wine, that those elements were His Body and Blood. Many Protestants argue that the notion of eating Jesus' flesh and drinking his blood means bringing His law, His words, His gospel into ourselves. If that was His meaning, why at the Last Supper did He not hold up scriptures when He said "take, eat, this is my body, take, drink, this is my blood"?
stevesilvia 1 year ago
@stevesilvia The New Covenant that Jesus revealed to his apostles were not in written form at the time the Last Supper took place. Jesus' instruction about the use of the bread and wine is clear for everyone to see: "do this in remembrance of me." We are to remember him and everything that he taught everytime we commemorate the Last Supper. His sacrifice was over and he had already accomplished his mission - to save the sinners from their iniquities.
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco, we disagree with your interpretations...The key word in the command by Jesus is "Do this..."
stevesilvia 1 year ago
@stevesilvia By saying "do this..." means that Jesus wants his disciples to remember him and everything that he said because he is the way the truth and the life. All these is symbolized by the breaking of the bread and drinking of the wine. But the celebration is not intended to change the bread into Christ's body or the wine into his blood. But the catholic church wants the people to believe that the bread turns into Christ's body and the wine into Christ's blood inorder to get the people...
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco, we believe the key words and the command by Jesus is "Do this..." as taught by the first Christians in their paintings and writings.... Your hatred towards what others do and believe prevents you from understanding, and is not Christ like. If you wish to interpret scriptures on your own, then you will. Rather than rely on our own interpretations, we have a church who Jesus gave the "keys" to, to interpret them.
stevesilvia 1 year ago
@stevesilvia ... to continue attending mass and for the church to continue collecting money from the people.
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco your gossip is your interpretations of Scripture...
stevesilvia 1 year ago
@stevesilvia The Word of God is nothing more than gossip to you. Your devotion is to the foolish teachings of fallen, sinful men. Wake up! Repent from these evil practices and believe the Gospel.
Jesus is in our hearts, that is what Scripture proclaims. He is not in any bread or wine or in church tabernacles. We, who believe in the Gospel are the new tabernacle of God.
mpenaco 1 year ago
@mpenaco, you repeat my words....you think we don't follow Jesus....sorry, you are wrong about us and it seems nothing will change your mind.
stevesilvia 1 year ago
@WayOfTheMaster454 What did Jesus say about where we can find him? "The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you." Lk. 17-20-21.
God's kingdom is within you, not in bread and wine.
mpenaco 1 year ago
Thank you for this awesome video clip! So TRUE!!! Our Catholic Church IS the FULLNESS of CHRISTIANITY!! I was once a Christian Protestant, was heavily involved in youth groups with Calvary Chapel, a "non-denominational" Christian Protestant group here in Southern California..even though they say "non-denominational" it is STILL based on their OWN personal interpretation and they DO follow the teachings of Martin Luther, so YES they are "separated brothers" in Christ. Many don't realize tradition
DrWagnerCanek 1 year ago
"Cross of the Holy Father Benedict, the holy cross be my light, not the devil my guide I suggest it get away Satans vain things, evil only offer me, drink your poison yourself, the Holy Cross be my light"
mercis100 1 year ago
Thanks for your video....I love the Roman Catholic Church....I love the Eucharist.....Everyone is our responsibility. Let us always try to share the fullness of truth with our brothers and sisters. Though they hold different faith so that they hardly listen, we, Catholics, pray for them that they may be enlightened and we pray for all of us that we continue to walk in the righteous path. Pray for me.
emorejemsti 1 year ago
I think that everybody in this video has been smoking crack!
604maximus12 1 year ago
The Eucharist is only a useless piece of bread, the Catholics are deceived. The Catholics believe in purgatory which is not biblical, it's the devils grant deception.
thirdeaglebookz 1 year ago
@thirdeaglebookz --Calling Jesus useless is evil-speak; You should repent.
HouseHaunter484 1 year ago 4
Watch what Muslims say about Mary
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thehijazi100 1 year ago
Would someone please tell me the name of the song -- I love it. Great video!!!
Thanks for sharing.
cAtKitty47 1 year ago
@cAtKitty47 The first song is called "God Beyond Our Dreams" by Bernadette Farrell.
mburmy 10 months ago
@mburmy THANK YOU for the info re: the song. I found a CD called WE WALK BY FAITH and this song is on it. It is under the artist's name Robin Kochis, but yes, Bernadette Farrell. Peace!
cAtKitty47 10 months ago
I man I remember go to the catholic chuch all the time, it was sooooo boring I just couldn't wait to leave! LOL!! Sit stand kneel! Sit stand kneel!
GodsS0N1 1 year ago
@GodsS0N1 it's really sit (listen to the bible read out loud), Stand, (listen to the Gospel, the Word of God), and kneel, ( worship the Word of God)....It really helps to know the background and history of what is going on in Mass.
stevesilvia 1 year ago 6
@GodsS0N1 So you think that Catholic faith it's nothing else than sit-stand-kneel-sit-stand kneel. Catholic faith is much more than it's liturgy, It's a way of live. If we just go to mass on sunday but the rest of the week we behave as pagans, we are not real Catholics. I don't know you, and I don't judge you, but your post sounds as if you were just a "Sunday mass Catholic" or, in other words, a vain person. Think about it. Blessings, pax et bonum (hope I wasn't very boring).
VisigothSpain 1 year ago
were it not for the catholic church , kiwi you would not have a bible to self interpret
wjm7259 1 year ago
EUCHARIST OR MASS
"Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself" (1 Cor 11.27-29).
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
Excellent, Steve. You are truly gifted to supply such glorious videos and such a beautiful witness to the TRUTH! God bless.
susiefromomaha 1 year ago
Dont worry. Mapollo insulted me more than once.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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"you are petros ( a small pebble) and upon this petra ( a massive rock) I shall build My church....." Christ built His church upon Himself, upon the faith Peter had and upon our faith in Christ. Not Peter the person.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Hm, as far as the New Testament is concerned, Jesus didn't pluck part of His flesh out to be eaten by His disciples at the Last Supper, which should be the primary example of celebrating the Lord's Supper afterwards. Where does the Bible say that the bread actually turns into Christ's flesh? The Last Supper was also symbolic, the Lord's supper is symbolic. Jesus Christ'ssacrifice on the cross was the one true real thing
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
EUCHARIST
Jesus said to the Jewish crowds: I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world." The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us (his) flesh to eat?" Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
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ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.
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ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever." (John 6:51-58).
ignatiusofantioch2 1 year ago
Amen! We must expose the satanic, antichrist and unbiblical catholic church.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
and what does the church say on the fourty years of child rape that it covered up? What does the church say about evolution?
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
We are to judge, but judge righteously. The passage about not judging means don't judge someone if you are also guilty of the same thing. We should not judge peoples' motives. All Christians are commanded to rebuke, reprove and preach the Word of God, this includes to the roman catholics who are ignorant of the truth through their false religion.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
No way. The verse says "judge NOT, lest ye be judged". It doesn't say "judge not, unless you're not doing the thing you're judging the other person for". And look at these over verses about judging
Heb 12:23 calls God the judge of ALL, not you
2 Tim 4:8 calls God THE just judge, not you
Col 2:16 says to let NO MAN judge you
1 Cor 4:5 says NO judging to God comes
Romans 14:13 says we should STOP judging
Romans 2:1 says that if you judge another, you CONDEMN yourself.
Need I continue?
farsight001 1 year ago
Hmm. thank you so much for your scripture references, which i will investigate with my church. I still dont consider myself judging, mearly pointing out the truth contained in the Word of God.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Bullshit. If you didn't consider yourself judging, you would not have cited scripture in an attempt to justify it.
And the "Word", with the "W" capitalized is Jesus. Only when not capitalized does "word" refer to scripture.
By capitalizing it and referring to the bible, you are essentially equating scripture with your Lord and savior, which I know you don't mean to do.
farsight001 1 year ago
The Eucharist is the body of Jesus, is the center of the church, this is HIS COMANDMENT, read the BIble with more atention, he was right, you have eyes but can't see my brother
lxsch1 1 year ago
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Hm, as far as the New Testament is concerned, Jesus didn't pluck part of His flesh out to be eaten by His disciples at the Last Supper, which should be the primary example of celebrating the Lord's Supper afterwards. Where does the Bible say that the bread actually turns into Christ's flesh? The Last Supper was also symbolic, the Lord's supper is symbolic. Jesus Christ'ssacrifice on the cross was the one true real thing
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Whe are you going to open your eyes, we have the body of Jesus, there is only one Jesus, he gave one key to Peter , he did not give one key to every apostol, the Catholic church is the original church, all others are founded by men, not even 500 years old, look in your history. why so much hate , true cristians do not hate, true cristians give love, and acept each other as his brother
lxsch1 1 year ago
Jesus Christ is the church. not some organisation. No hate towards people here, only hate towards false religion.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 - The first church was a very visible apostolic organization where Peter had the primacy. All the other disciples were in communion with each other when they spread the Gospel. They spread 1 truth. Not 30K different versions of contradicting truths we see in protestant churches today.
Apostles also appointed their successors. Their successors appointed their successors and thus we have the Catholic and Orthodox bishops, who are the successors of the apostles.
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago
Show me that Peter exercised authority over the apostles, please.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 - Ok. First I will show the verses by Jesus. Then other verses showing Peter exercising his primacy.
Verses by Jesus:
"And I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock ['Peter' is Greek for 'rock'] 1 will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18).
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed in heaven" (Matt. 16:19).
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 Jesus said, ""I have prayed that your own faith may not fail; and once you have turned back, you must strengthen your brothers" (Luke 22:33)."
Other verses showing Peter's primacy:
God sent an angel to Peter to announce the Resurrection of Jesus (Mark 6:7
The risen Jesus first appeared to Peter (Luke 24:34).
Peter headed the meeting which elected Matthias as replacement for Judas (Acts 1:13-26).
Peter led the apostles in preaching on Pentecost (Acts 2:14)
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 - More on the primacy of Peter:
Peter led the meeting which decided on which terms Gentiles would be allowed into the Church (Acts 15).
Peter was the judge of Ananias and Saphira (Acts 5:1-11).
Jesus entrusted Peter with his flock, making him too a Good Shepherd (John 21:15-17).
Peter performed the first miracle after Pentecost (Acts 3).
After his conversion Paul went to see Peter, the chief apostle (Gal. 1:18).
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 - Also read:
Throughout the New Testament, when the apostles are listed as a group, Peter's name is always first. Sometimes it's just "Peter and the twelve. "
Peter's name is mentioned more often than the names of all the other apostles put together.
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 - A Lutheran pastor explained why some protestants denies the real presence of Jesus in bread and wine:
"""HI..well it started during the Reformation among the more radical reformers including such people as Ulrich Zwingli...basically they deny the real presence because of human reason..in other words, since they could not understand HOW that could be...they deniced it and make the bread and wine into symbols of the body and blood...Pastor Lassman """
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago
There you go again. luther luther luther. All denominations are not Christian. I fully understand that if God wanted to, He can do ANYTHING. I dont care how, i have complete faith. It is not a question of "how can that be possible:, it is about "Is this biblical, or an invention/perversion of the scripture by man".
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 - The reason I bring Luther up to show what the Father of Protestantism originally wanted to do theologically versus what you radical Protestants are doing now theologically because you are influenced by radical reformers like Ulrich Zwingli.
Luther read bible and believed that he is eating Jesus body and blood in the bread and wine.
Christians have always believed in real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist for 1500 years until radicals like Zwingli came.
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 - Still today, the vast majority of the Christians of the world e.g. Catholics and Orthodox and the main stream Protestants like Lutherans and Anglicans believe in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.
All these people studied bible for 2000 years and concluded that Jesus is present in the bread and wine with his whole body and blood and divinity.
Just think what if YOU are wrong.
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago
Do you even think about what you're saying? You hate the religion but not the individual members? You might as well say you hate my family, but not its individual members or you hate the black race, but not individual black people.
farsight001 1 year ago
If your family were conning people about salvation, condemning homosexuals whilst at the same time raping alter boys and covering it up, removing and adding to the Word of God to justify their own satanic false practices and then having the cheek to slap on a "made by God" label on it, you better believe i will hate your family, but still love the individuals.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
The point, which you COMPLETELY missed, was that it's not actually possible to hate a family and not it's members, nor possible to hate the black race, but not individual black people, nor even hate the Catholic Church while not hating its members.
Flat out, if you hate the Church, you hate the members. No way around it. They are inseparable.
farsight001 1 year ago
kiwichristian2009 - The Christian Science Monitor April 05, 2002 edition
'Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant'
mysteriumaenigma 1 year ago