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  • Don't fall victim to "the moth to candle syndrome." Take a quick second to think before acting. As the first in officer, your initial actions in the first few minutes will dictate the outcome and duration of the fire. AND FINALLY---ENFORCE THE WEARING OF PROPER PPE! There is no reason for a firefighter to be on walking around on the roof, positioning the line, and making entry into the second floor of the structure while not wearing his helmet! BE SAFE, AND EVERYONE GOES HOME!

  • After darkening the fire down utilizing the fixed deck gun, smaller diameter attack lines can be deployed to extinguish any remaining fire. This video is a common example of the typical fire where crews relate to previous experience and habit. Firefighters can get so used to pulling the 1 3/4 inch line for a fire attack that it becomes automatic....even when it is probably not the most ideal choice. The location and the extent of the fire will dictated the tactics employed.

  • A 2 1/2 inch line would have been ideal to provide exposure protection and fire attack--Big water for Big fire. Conserving the tank water until an adequate water supply can be established is key. However, if a continuous water supply can be established quickly, the first in officer might have utilized the fixed deck gun for a defensive attack on the structure while lines are positioned to provide for exposure protection. The deck gun can make quick work of the fire by darkening it down.

  • The first in officer must remember basic tactical priorities like RECEO..Rescue, Exposures, Confinement, Extinguishment, Overhaul. Due to the involvement of this structure, it is highly unlikely that a rescue would be needed due to the large volume of fire and the probable likely-hood of no viable victims. Exposure protection is therefore indicated, if a quick knock down of the fire utilizing the deck gun is not an option. Don't allow the fire to spread to the exposures.

  • My thought is that the 1 3/4 inch line was pulled because that is probably the line that is always pulled by this department. The actions of the first arriving officer in the first few minutes will dictate the outcome of the fire. The crew's operating at this fire were lucky that the incident didn't escalate and involve the spread of fire to the B exposure or other exposures. If you are going to rely on tank water and small lines (if not utilizing your fixed deck gun) focus on the exposures.

  • wow the car at 9:40. also props to people who do this for a living!! <3 you guys

  • Thatb Fire Department dosen't save very many Houses now do they!

  • ^ I agree , A Deck gun, and get the 2-1,2s going...

  • Big fire= Deck guns, and two and a halfs.

  • wow so you never grew up and you follow fires? poor parents

  • Ummm shouldn't that be a 2 1/2 defensive attack?

  • Deck guns dominate a house fire like a fat kid does candy!

  • It amazes me how many departments are slow to accept foam. Also seems most departments are slow to adapt to using ground monitors to help protect fire fighters.

  • Are you a firefightere?

  • @matthewpetkus No I am not

  • Thats one hell of a well built home!!!! i have never been to a workin job with that much fire and had it still b standing even 3 mins after that amount of fire blowin... u know when u can c the fire from a few blocks away that it is prob going 2 b a surrond and drownd!!! looks like 1 hell of a job. should have tryed to go in the front door right away and get some...hehe

  • This is a paid dept. and the first line thats pulled on a fire like this is a 1 3/4? Really???

  • holy two and a half batman

  • Wheres a mercury monitor when ya need one?

  • looks hot, was the garage facing the wind?

  • hey great video. I am just wondering do you have a scanner at your home or car or are you on the department?

  • @cripticgatekeep I have a Motorola two way with a block on transmitting, has all the area departments programmed in

  • @mabas21 ah ok. like I said I was just wondering. the volunteer department i am on had a trailer house fire on 12/30/2011. the trailer wasn't burnt to the ground but it has lots of damage inside. idk what the condition the male homeowner is in. he was sent to seattle, wa.

  • @mabas21 Are you a firefighter?

  • @mabas21

    If your not a firefighter then why did you help lay a supply line?

  • @mabas21

    Why ?

  • Shit. I forgot about the chicken fingers.

  • You were obviously watching a different video. Poor tactics, even worse command and fire ground management. Embarrassing effort.

  • NOw This is a boiler Here Fully involved roller see great attack training at work here

  • should have pulled a duece and a half. inch and 3 quarters is a joke here

  • What a bunch of fucking amateurs. Incredibly slow response time, poorly organized once equipment arrived. The fire is almost out and one of these lamos asks whether there was anyone inside and then a small group launches an assault on the house. The house burned to the ground. The amount of loss is no different as a result of their feeble attempts. This would have been laughable except some family lost everything. Who was the genius that waited so long to request a second alarm?

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  • @DrDruidKJunior well dickwad, it all depends on attack protocol. here, if a house is up like that, search and rescue doesn't commence until after the fire has been knocked down a bit.

  • OMG! Fully Involved, man! That'd Take(In My Area) 2 Full Stations. 3 Pumps, 2 Ladders, A Rescue & 2-3 Hydrants. Kids, See Why Don't Play With Matches, Lighters, Or Anything That will Make Any Thing Catch Fire.

  • uhhh...what house?

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  • @P71CVPI07AZ I honestly do not know, it all depends on the department and the state regulations. Every state has it own requirements and then the department has requirements. I would ask the administration at the fd if you are applying for an engineer job you may have a problem only because your the driver. I would definitely ask them first though

  • @mabas21 I will look into it. Thank you !

  • @P71CVPI07AZ You also could try and see if the prosecuting attourney would give you an expungement. That would erase it entirely from your record. Some places I know on non-violent crimes could grant that after 10 years of having no criminal record at all. No guarantees, but worth a try.

  • @TheJj1307 Hey funny you mention that. I just applied for my felony to be set a side. Which is mostly the same as expungement here in AZ. The County attorney said they didn't have a problem with it. So I'll wait and see what the judge decides.. If he goes through maybe someday I can be a firefighter.. Thank you for the info !

  • @P71CVPI07AZ Usually you only have to worry about arson charges from preventing you from joining. Atleast thats what I was told when I signed up

  • @P71CVPI07AZ Most likely not. Felonies are always automatic disqualifies, and if you got charged and convicted of a felony for drunk-driving, that implies it wasn't your first DUI conviction, which means you're a massive liability. DUI's by themselves automatically disqualify you in just about every state.

    Good luck!

  • @Sunburn2007 You are incorrect ! I pass background checks all the time. I passed a major background check for my current job. So no ! Felonies do not disqualify you from everything. It all depends on what it was, when it was, and if you have been a productive member of society. All of which are good in my case. Thank you !

  • @P71CVPI07AZ like mabas21 said, it all depends on the company and state regs. as for the driving, im sure that would be a big red flag. But, you can still get on the trucks and fight the fires, that is, of course, if the company finds you favorable and you have had a clean slate since the dui, but a felony dui is pretty serious.

  • @P71CVPI07AZ state of ohio they go back 5 yrs on ur driving record and u might have to have that sponged off ur record kus if u have any kind of criminal charges u can't even get ur serts for fire or emt

  • @P71CVPI07AZ

    You cannot be a firefighter anywhere that I know of with a felony

  • @P71CVPI07AZ

    Probably true most places won't hire anyone with a felony. If you've seriously changed your life,go talk to a lawyer about the chances of getting it expunged from your record. Depending on the judge you see, that could be a possibility.

  • @P71CVPI07AZ Might be hard with a felony Bro.

  • WOW i hope my house dosent go into flames. i would have liked to see the inside of those houses

  • Ok good stop on the it from jump to exposures. As for the command to pull the 1"3/4 good job your first priority was the house that could be saved. I don't know who you thing you are BargainPaper but you wouldnt put the ladder over the fire load, um didnt see anyone there and PS its call truck work. Keep playing with you little hose line and quit trying to put down the real firefighters.

  • @shotimedj Hey, Im not trying to make this a dick measuring contest, Im just saying that there were some obvious safety concerns. And you dont see the guy at 6:50? Grab your glasses and check out the A/B corner. Whats he doing? Call me crazy, but when Im doing roof ops, I ladder from the least affected side, and sound my way across. But hey, thats just me. My goal is to mitigate the scene, not add to it.

  • damn greifers!

  • More water was put on that fire then you use to water your lawn in 5 years ^^

  • Wow. This is scary firefighting. Not in terms of a lot of fire, but the actions of those on scene. Obviously, someone in command misjudged the fire and thought a 1 3/4" was the way to go. Beyond that, there appeared to be little or no accountability for safety. At 5:28, you've got guys taking off helmets and even what appears to be a CO without a mask on! At 6:50, you have someone climbing on the roof over where the heaviest fire load was.. And 7:53 has lung cancer written all over it!

  • Its scary seeing firefighters like this. Any of you guys tried to ride on my engine and Id make sure you went through a basic academy again.

  • @BargainPaper at 5:55  a Captain going in for an interior attack has his nomex covering his face instead of putting on his air mask,

  • @Cand0002 Ugh. Im not trying to be an ass and quarterback this thing from half way across the country, but its things like that that make me cringe. There are no excuses for not masking up and protecting yourself.

  • Good example of a changing air track at arround the 1:50 mark.

  • Nice job with exposure protection but this fire has deck gun or 2 1/2" written all over it. way too much fire for an 1 3/4" handline.

  • man i love a good hot housefire...

  • @COLED803 im guessing you light fires for fun......and if so you are nothing better than a pice of shit! and if not my bad

  • @doragzzzz I like to fight fire and im aggresive so whats wrong wrong with that?!

  • @COLED803 so you are a firefighter then and if so you are a an everyday hero and no im not being a smartass

  • Bet it was toasty where you were standing :)

  • That Fire Is rolling man Geez that is incredible

  • Huge fire, I'm just an EMT in a Volunteer Fire Department but great work to both departments.

  • Deck gun right into the A/B exposure side, and 2 1/2 attack line at the garage would have put that sucker out real easy. Great footage! Around 3:35 and 4:15 I hear a pop, something in the garage go?

  • @gsw42489 The pops you hear are from the cars in the rear of the fire, one was a tire and I believe the other pop was a radiator.

  • @gsw42489 I agree. A 2 1/2 in the front of the garage would have been a nice move. At the 2:40 mark when the camera moves to the back of the building, it looks like one would have been nice back there as well.

  • @gsw42489

    The attack line being used is pathetic. The water flow is so inadequate that the fire is laughing at it. 2-1/2'' needed upon arrival not a line with insufficient water flow.

  • @gsw42489 I wouldn't say real easy... that thing was beyond being put out 'real easy'

  • always a shame to watch peoples life go up in smoke

  • 2.5" may have been the better option initially. Big fire needs big water. not armchair qb'n. just sayin'

  • excelelnt footage my friend. that hosue next door was BOILING. it woulda went next had yall not arrived when you did

  • Now that is a fire!

  • now that was a cooker!

  • was that house a total loss or repairable

  • do firefighters or cops never tell you to put the camera out?

  • one time me and my step dad were sleeping over at a friends house and at 5 AM his friends computer screne caught fire. We were out in the rain for a while, and the FD was there for a few hours. This was in Florida. It will always haunt my memory. I've experienced several fires in my life.

  • Bombeiros Ílhavo 2010 see this on ytube.

  • wheres a mercury monitorwhen you need it or a deck gun

  • Holy crap that makes me think like WOAHHH!!!!

  • Wow! such good footage! Is 32 years old to late to be a fireman?! I've always wanted to do it but never had enough guts to quit my day job. Until I got laid off....

  • @TheLantyJarvis Most departments have an age cut off of 35 years old, but volunteers don't have an age restriction that I know of. Best bet is to contact the paid departments to see what the restrictions and cut off is

  • The firefighter going in the second story porch area late in the video really should have had his helmet on. Even with a majority of fire knocked down, there is danger everywhere inside the structure!

  • hey guys see all that orange stuff coming out of the garage??? put water on that. sometimes the best exposure protection is putting the fire out in the first place

    also, every fire engine i have ever seen has a deck gun on top.. i can count on one hand the number of times i have actually seen it used. sad

  • @resqjason2 Why dont you go help them, do things your way, see how it works

  • @resqjason2

    no shit right?

  • hey guys see all that orange stuff coming out of the garage??? put water on that. sometimes the best exposure protection is putting the fire out in the first place

  • 510 to late now its gone you guys would never make it in ny sorry

  • o see alot of junk so you guys let it burn wowo firer guys you suck

  • wow you guys suck i will not live ther i hose really 1 hose

  • what the hell where is the water did you get payed to let it burn ???????????????

  • I know these guys seen an enormous amount of fires each week and they are one of the busiest departments in the country, but they seemed to take a long time to get big water on the fire.

  • I see a Chevorlet involved in the fire too. The owner seems upset to see that.

  • thats alot of fire

  • big fire big line wtf is that little ass attack line gonna do. Not hatin.....just sayin

  • Nothing but Admiration for every fire fighter risking his/her life out there every single day .... Thank you men and women of course

  • Its funny how many different ways you are taught to fight a fire. Especially when it comes to the many types of fires. They use a straight stream where as on my boat we are taught narrow angle v.

  • man just this one fire could nearly get my taskbook taken care of. it would give me my last care fire and lots of the handson stuff. great job btw with the fire guys.

  • nice killing the huge fire!!

  • WTF? One hose?? LOL.....

  • What a beast...

    

  • great video mabas! I've been in a few fires myself. me and my step dad were at a friends house in 2001 and his friends computer monitor caught fire. we were out in the rain and it was very unpleasont. And in 2009 we had a brush fire from a firework display before July 4th. very scarry.

  • damn master stream killed that fire

  • gotta add my 2 cents...big fire-big water. the house is cookin already, if there are no reports of occupants inside-no need for interior att. w/ that much involvement. surround and drown. one more thing-we're firemen...danger is inherent with this job. watch Lt. Ray McCormack's video then think about what he says. Stop worrying so much about safety...focus on you're task at hand. Fir Na Tine!!

  • I'll stay positive.... Good initial exposure protection on bravo side. A lot of fire here...way to contain it!!

  • Good initial exposure protection on bravo side

  • Why go interior look at the smoke "dark rolling and lots of it = flashover" no need to go in total loss anyway RISK ASSESSMENT.

  • These poor guys need a deck on this.

  • probably one of the worst fire attacks I've seen. Terrible ran... watch a few training videos or something

  • I know i'm only a volunteer in montana. But with that much fire wouldn't a 2 1/2 done a little more or even a deck monitor that is personally what i would have done.

  • @OBAMAWOLF I was going to ask the same question. Would it not have made more sense to hit the fire in the garage at the begining of the video with the deck monitor right away to knock it down? Or was that a different truck that arrived on scene after the video began?

  • @MrCynic1 I completely agree take you line and get a good water supply and open up the 2/12 or deck monitor on the garage then use the 1 1/2 to do mop up

  • @OBAMAWOLF absolutly

  • How big is the City of Gary population wise? How many fire stations? Just curious, I've only been to Indiana a couple of times, and that was when I was in the service. Keep safe out there guys!

  • @PoppaBlue59 The population in 2010 was 80,294 with a total of 57.24 sq miles. They have 14 fire stations which includes the airport. The city just laid off 34 firefighters and closed down several stations. The equipment sucks when it runs and the moral has been destroyed. Just a quick overview of the conditions these poor guys face going to work.....

  • @mabas21 Everything is in alignment for someone getting seriously injured or even killed. To lay off that many firefighters, longer burn times and having to work with inadequate equipment is all it takes. On the west coast a lot of departments are facing and experiencing the same problems. Everyone needs to be heads up and remember we all go home after a shift.

  • @mabas21 these guys dont get paid enough.....they put their lives on the line for us everyday....i hear you about the budget cuts they suck....i bet the people who made these cuts defintely want their house protected 24\7.....

  • @mabas21 these guys dont get paid enough.....

  • @mabas21 pretty soon they will be down to one guy on an engine spraying a deck gun at the house hoping for the best...lol

  • *krass*

  • The little ass attack line aint going to do shit, try pulling a 2.5 off the truck, also the Firefighter going in for an interior attack at 6:00 needs to put on his air mask otherwise his buddies will be giving him CPR on the front lawn. where is the safety officer.

  • i was taught small fire small line... big fire big line... a 2.5 would have done damage to that fire in a hurry

  • Nothing a new paint job can't fix up.

  • Whatwas all the thumping/banging noises in the middle of the video? Ammo?

  • did the red helmet really go in the for interior attack with a pack on but no mask its right there why not use it ! good job getting it out though!

  • Surround and drowned is the best for that thing!

  • That's insane.. damn good fire goin there.

  • Great Video! I just don't understand how this dept operates. What is the point of having a back up man on a little 1 3/4 with almost no pressure, when they could pull a second line and protect exsposure Delt. At that point that would be the main concern. Exsposure. I don't know if I am missing anything that you could point out.

  • Wow awesome video! You were not lying when u said "incredible" fire conditions lol

  • Really is that it one attack line for a fire like that!

  • oh she was so pretty too bad you missed the flashover

  • Wow, what poor tactics! Poor choice of attack line and then when they finally hit it with the right fire stream, guys are trying to go interior after the building is structrally compromised with a master stream hitting it from the outside.

  • @ffjsb I must agree here. All I can say is wow and I am glad I do not live in Gary. I have watched several of their videos and it does not get better. Sad.

  • @Firenoid5 Oh WOW, I just noticed the guy entering the 2nd floor from the roof on air with NO HELMET!! C'mon Gary, BE PROFESSIONAL! It wouldn't take much to improve, just get some basics done right!

  • Does Gary ever use the stang gun on their trucks. Not that this fire really applies, but I have seen them pull 1"3/4 lines for defensive fires. It's rare to even see a 2.5" Line.

  • Does Gary ever use the stang gun on their trucks. Not that this fire really applies, but I have seen them pull 1"3/4 lines for defensive fires. It's rare to even see a 2.5" Line

  • whats the cause of it?

  • @smarttubber123 I have no clue

  • @smarttubber123 a flame about an inch tall...

  • @smarttubber123 From the looks of the video, it appears that it was a car fire in the garage that extended to the rest of the structure. Just a guess from watching the video though.

  • That was great footage, what a monster of a fire. Did the house next door have any damage?

  • @bplayer47 Believe it or not, the houses on either side were untouched. The house to the left should have caught from the radiant heat, but they got lucky

  • Did anyone die?

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  • how that fire start that fire was crazy i have been on the elmore vermont fire dept for two and I have never seen a fire like that i hope every body made out of the house

  • @TheThorinbingham from the looks of it car caught on fire in the garage.

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  • Does Gary not like to use Stang guns or 2.5" defensive streams ? It seems like a lot of these fires that I have seen seem to be defensive fires, why use an 1 3/4" line on a defensive fire ?

  • No intent to slam anybody or department, as a Company Officer I would have layed a 2-1/2" attack line simply based on the amount of fire showing. But the structure looks like it was a lost cause anyway. Stay safe Brothers!

  • @allsteer40 as a lt. i agree that single 1-3/4" is definatly not going to be effective on a fire of that magnitude. However good save on the adjacent structure, Your first due wasnt that effective on surpressing the fire that well but the other units that arrived on scene later realized the need for larger amounts of water and reacted correctly and efficiently. Stay safe its easy for others outside of the situation to criticize.

  • That sucks for the owners of the house! But great film job! Very nice

  • it's burning more then the bigest "drug factory" in the world. damn

  • Where is this? Why would you do this? What were you all thinking?

    The real question is where are all the armchair QBs? oh wait they are watching this video.

    Easy to talk, hard to do.

    Great job brothers, stay safe and keep doin' the job. (The way you do it)

  • GOT WATER????

  • They need to invest in a Blitz Fire, it works just like a deck gun puts out just as much water and PSI. The blitz fire you can set up have water flowing threw it and you dont have to watch it it can opperate by itself the only thing you have to do is move the nozzel where you want it!

  • while I love blitz fires, and wish more departments used them...there's no way Gary could. They don't have the money to invest in portable radios, and they're lucky to even have decent bunker gear and fire apparatus. If they had the money, I'm sure they would.

  • I hate the crackling sound, A year ago i was waken up by that comming from my neighbors house, still haunts me to this day

  • Nice vid , if the had an engine there , why didnt they use a deck gun to help contain/ supress the fire?

  • why in the world would you pull a 1 3/4 handline for a fire that large and that far advanced? this is one of those jobs that id go straight to deck gun upon arival to knock down the fire then use a handline to mop up.

  • GFD gets very little funding. They are lucky to have working gear. Sad, but true. GFD are some of the bravest, hardest working public servants in this country.

  • a good blitz attack to the garage and handline after fire is knocked down would of been a good idea. yaull could of maybe made interior on it. We do this all the time in my department on heavy fire conditions and it works great

  • dame kids and there fire i wasn't there to help start it and yet it wasn't a school i go to i dont burn schools <.< or do i may b i did dame teacher and the books didn't help!!

  • where was the 2.5 attack line

  • OUTSTANDING !!!

  • horrific fire

  • wow!!!! That was a good catch..early arrival can't be beat

  • I got really lucky with this one, thank God it had such a well defined header, otherwise I would have taken my time getting there. Stay safe out there Steve.

  • @mabas21 man you guy at the gary indiana fire dept do a great job this house you boys did a great job making the the house next didnt catch fire or get any damage tell the gary indiana fire dept that they frick awsome you got one hell fire dept im proud of you guys