The EU has done f*** all for this country that our own politicians couldn't have done.
What if the EU decides to be tyrannical? The democratically elected European parliament has little real power, instead the unelected EU commission has most of the power - do some research man.
pat condell is a cunt! he goes on about muslims and christians should not be allowed to believe in what they choose, when he is spreading his extremist atheist views .
0:54 Poll Tax, forbidding settling migrants from voting etc....yah the Tories are cockfaggots, but worse of all is this mob are NeoCons straight out of Washington D.C's school of thought.
These twats are also the same twits that idolise Thatcher, the witch that wanted the Berlin wall to remain standing as long as possible. A Cold War till Europe would be redefined by the fracture of West Vs East...
Gratex you should hide behind your beard again, you scared my parrot so bad hes still hiding in the microwave 18hours after he glimpsed your mug on the viddy box.
UKip is a party for inbreeding and fox torturing.
I bet you have to have a lot of money to start your own business on your little island. Especially if you have to give every employee payed vacations every year. Nothing like strangling small business creation with EU barriers to entry. Some of these points you and caughlan bring up just sound so trivial and yet you are sooo impassioned. It sounds extremely fake your saying,
"How dare you Condel for being a conservative and telling people about it."
@pyrrho314 Hes Scottish you moron, you know the guys who want out of the British Union before the victims of British Modernisation start asking for reperation payment. Its clever Scottish penny pinching self protectionism, get out, blame England and make buttzekks with the EU.
What about employer rights to pay whatever they want and give whatever holidays they like? You are just taking away one persons rights and giving unwarranted power to someone else. I am not rich but I do not think moral for the government to make laws about such things. The employer and employee should negotiate it between themselves. If the employee doesn't accept it he can find another job. Property rights, freedom of speech, freedom from violence - these are real human rights.
In what way is it unwarranted for an individual to be able to bargain effectively with employers? It's a marketplace that can easily lead to outright slavery without some kind of state referee in there. Employees can find another job? This is a simplistic excuse you store within your brain, the reality is a complex job market where one has to lower one's standards because others do so easily.
Tom Newton Dunn must die...I bought The Sun as a cheap alternative to my usual brand of toilet paper today and saw the continued support for Cameron via the aforementioned... Sun Readers (I use the word read loosely...) get everything they deserve. And I hope TND catches HIV
I'm really kind of confused by the responses Pat's getting.
He does pretty explicitly say 'vote for who you believe in'. Okay so he's voting UKIP... one of my best mates is considering voting BNP. Sometimes people do odd things, and vote because they agree on one issue so strongly they'll forgive plenty of others.
OK. SECOND viewing and I still made it to less than TWO minutes. I guess it's that fucking stupid title. I can see why Inmendham hands you your arse, to be honest. Just how bothered are you about politics? And just how much do you know about what you're voting for? Just how strategically can you think? You're right. Long comment but haven't even watched much of what's coming out of your face. I've heard it ALL BEFORE.
I agree, nationalism is sick. Future generations will laugh, perhaps cry, at our imaginary lines on the ground and I wish I could say that separating people based on culture is primitive animal like behaviour but the truth is animals are a bit more human than us. Once the people are throughouly mixed, twisted characters won't dare to blow themselves up in fear of also killing a sister and angry young men will refuse to invade other countries because they would be killing their brothers.
well said... though, as usual, this whole bickering misses the true point anarchism brings to the table. states are bad... but still creating super or global state may be better than letting capitalist overlords play the national card on the poor workers.
Oh damn! Ha ha ha! Oh, you lefties are too far gone over there! A "right" for time off! LMAO! Call a thing for what it is! A "right to lounge around more than you deserve and get paid for it!" The wheel of fate is about to roll over us in the mud. Better everyone's freedom than everyone else's free goodies. You've already lost your right to bear arms. What's next to go? A people caged and fattened for slaughter.
@gratex Hehehe! "Cage" he says! Hmmm...nnnnno. I think I'll stay out of the cage. Or you can try to sell off on me your semantics of what a "cage" is. But it'll just be a red herring anyway.
A cage is the little square box rush limbaugh tucks you into at night so that you can sleep comfortably knowing that patriotic fervour will protect you from the boogeyman.
@gratex Ah. NOW I see the light! Let us NOT be the bastion of freedom and liberty where little recourse can be found globally on a 1st world level. How dare my intrepidity!
And what bedtime comfort do you reserve for yourself, if you must wonder daily how open the fleeting door to expatriation is to you? To where should you flee? And what sanctuary of liberty do I deserve to attend if not my own homeland?
@QuartuvLarry You have been brainwashed into thinking you should work 365 days of the year. Your own minds traps you in your lot.
Yes guns, let us talk about that. Your right to guns has totally stop America being swallowed up by corporate interests. Your country has turned into one big corporation. They corporations publicly swears fealty to the flag, the constitution and FREEDOM! but in reality is doesn't give a flying fuck.
Oh the land of the free, and the home, of the, brave!!!! MEGA LULZ
@QuartuvLarry Nice dodge. My point since I have to remove all subtlety is that your right to own a gun does you no good. Did it stop the banks being bailed out? Did it stop military spending? Do you even know why you have the right to own a gun? What is the purpose of your 2nd amendment? People like you wave your gun in the air and think your free while your county undergoes a coup d'état in slow motion. Do you really think you are going to have a well organised militia or citizens. lol.
@AntiSisyphus LOL! Ya gotta admit it makes things a little bit harder to load us onto cattlecars en masse, such as it was for the Jews of Poland and the Ukraine. It's going to be a little more difficult to control us, especially since owning firearms is merely one facet of resistance we have up our sleeve. Do you really think we don't know about the insolubility of our banks? (I suppose that's what the nazis were stripping their unarmed prisoners of before loading them onto cattlecars)
@QuartuvLarry It doesn't require weapons to control the minds of millions. Fox News and Rush Limbaugh do it everyday. The teabaggers are loaded to the teeth and they get controlled like lemmings whenever they attend one of their clan rallies.
@AntiSisyphus Ha ha ha! Ohhhh, Sisyphus, Sisyphus, Sisyphus! How the lemming does so blindly describe its own chains! LOL! Uh, WHO is the one being controlled here? Considering YOU are the one who unquestioningly believes the breathless and unfounded claims by the mainstream media that we all attend "clan rallies," you're in no position to lash out at the independent political thought we hold outside your lefty party's little think-box, mmkay?
@QuartuvLarry@QuartuvLarry Unfortunately you are wrong. Did I mention "mainstream" or what I would call Corporate media. No I didn't. I get my media from independent sources and from news programmes like DemocracyNow which doesn't have any corporate backers. I then analyses it and route out the assumptions that are made during the broadcast or article. I then decide what I think.
@AntiSisyphus Fine. Mainstream or not, though, if you've as yet adopted the myth that our tea party is part of the (how's it spelled?) klan, you've already jumped onto the close-minded lefty groupthink bandwagon. Our tea party is comprised of a diverse variety of conservatives, independents, and libertarians, but I shouldn't have to tell you what you SHOULD be observing for yourself. We just attended the cannabis crusade to legalize marijuana this past Saturday. Call it a sequel, if you like
@QuartuvLarry [cont/] You try and besmirch me with what you must do. I think the psychologists call that projection. As for independent thought, LOL, I remember reading about similar independent thought that occurred in late Weimar Germany.
UKIP are just a softer Version of the BNP! And although I do NOT agree with the BNP's Opinions on other Races & Gays, I DO agree with their intrepid promice to get ISLAM out of our country. And THAT is why I will vote for them. God have mercy on my soul.
nobody can get a religion out of a country, it's a physical impossibility. do you think the ukip will be able to remove legal citizens from this country?? this is delusion.
@gratex Do you have any better suggestions?!!! I don't agree with Saudi Law, Honour killings, Rape & Marrige of Children, Convert or Kill, Torture, Terrorism, and I want to see that episode of South Park Damn it!!! lol!!
But the BNP are the People to do it, if anyone can.
Abso-feckin'lutly.. My Ancestors are Scottish/Welsh/Irish/German etc.. Anyone can convert to Islam, i'd like to see the fuckers throw me out.
UKIP want the Church of England and the Monarchy to assume total power again like they did in the past.. And Condell wants to call himself an Atheist???
@2DRonaldo the Queen of England has been a rather nice old lady granted she is Royalty. Could be worse mayng,you could be stuck with a batshit insane sand nignog like Kadafi that wants his herd of camels to sleep under the same tent as his fleet of luxury class European cars.
It's like we tell those that sponge off the benefits that they're lazy scum that need a job.. The Royals only started contributing taxes around 96-98, they are the biggest spongers of the lot who get the finest education, train in the higest positions of the military to stroke their shallow egos.
They should look after themselves with the Charities they run and live with what they get.
They could live with Kadaffi and his camels if they want to leech off the workers.
@2DRonaldo Well, your middle class workers utopia is a shit hole without talking about Other Peoples Money, which is the OPiuM of the middle class struggle/warfare.
You middle classer wankers have created a crime state that disarms the victims, enables the abusers, robs from the havenots to give to the colonists.....
You're more likely to die from gunshot in America than you are in Britain.. Wish you fucktards will give the 'State out to get us' paranoia a rest, rather be alive than have a bullet in my brain by some dumb yank.
America's Gun Homicide rate is around 12,000+ Deaths a year to Britain's 300+ a Year.
Allot of Mexicos murder rates are down to Guns being smuggled over the border from the US.. You lot are a disease.
@2DRonaldo and this is from the nation that has that thieving bearded inbreeding cunt Darwin printed on your money....You value nothing but your sheepish life.
@2DRonaldo science doesnt hurt me, firearms are all about science, and laws. Darwin stole his so called 'Origin of species' from a gentlemen named Wallace.
The Native Indians were part of the process you worship known as natural selection, its horrible I know to admit it but you know the truth.
@2DRonaldo Where did I dispute evolution? If you follow the evolutionist/survival of the fittest why did you drag out the native American Indians of the closet? Looking for a emo-bone to break? You still havent explained why you are supposadly 'pro science' yet anti catalytic chemical reaction. All you did was quote some statistics, but what you failed to compensate for was the neanderthalic like violent crime in Britain where guns arent in high numbers but death by caveman like brutality is.
You critiscised the UK for it's Gun related Crime.
You might as well say making Murder a Crime doesn't work either.. That's what you base your argument on.
You make guns illegal isn't going to zero Gun Crime, but you greatly reduce the numbers of gun related crimes, less idiots getting their hands on guns, less death.. Fact.
Violence will never be erradicated but you've got a better chance to defend yourself if the criminal hasn't get a gun.
@2DRonaldo Darwin is on your money, and its proven Darwin stole the limelight and organised a way of getting Wallace stuck in the shade. What does that say about the credibility of the money that Darwins likeness rests on?
Id love to see you clarify where im engaging in character assasination.
@2DRonaldo You assumed I was an American for mentioning something about guns. That was your mistake. I am not American buddy, and this might send you a little dizzy, im actually English. :)
Keep on pretending you got it right ; ) your assumptions pretty much sum up British Elitism. As for Darwin, you certainly are a Darwinist because you dont CARE ABOUT THE SCANDLE.
@2DRonaldo No you crticised the US for Gun crime statistics, pretending that a black market would never exist and firearm availability would drop off if Guns were not available to the citizens of the U.S.A (depending on state laws and regs ofc).People have a better chance to defend themselves with a gun, because physical conditioning is not a great factor. Where the U.S.A has a work ethic of "Work Smarter Not Harder" you hold the work ethic of "Ug Ug Ug Me club and kick me win".
@2DRonaldo 4 armed cops eh? Well its a dangerous job dealing with criminals and all. Did those cops wear duty armour? You know like the Bobby in Britain wears Kevlar anti stab/slash/needle vests? Did you know though that the Cops in America dont wear solid shell Helmets. I guess the average British Bobby is far more likely to recieve blows to the face and head than a cop in America.
Who of the two (not cops, criminals) is the most regressive? Hint the UK is stuck in the medieval age.
@2DRonaldo as for criticising 'my' Country. Did you hear about your legal system a Teacher grabbed a student, picked up a dumbell weighing (3kg) and proceeded to hit the student in the head with it while shouting "Die Die Die" infront of the entire class. Thats like punching someone with a knuckle duster amirite? And guess what, your 'Justice System' let him walk away from an attempted Murder charge. The student had a fractured skull btw. So back to 4, quadruple murder - did they arrest the guy?
@2DRonaldo its no distraction and you know it, The key part was my closing sentence.
Did they arrest the quadruple murderer? Or did they kill him? And what would the 'justice' system have done if they caught the murderer? Would they put him in a pyscho prison with olympic swimming pools, Playstations etc or would they have him leathally injected. Face it Guns save lives. Libtards who are threatened by guns probably prefer boomerangs or whips or something ghey.
The Death Penalty IS a deterrent, that's why we abolished it over here in the UK, it was the main reason, plus allot of innocent people wrongly accused were put to death.. YES Innocent people were PUT TO DEATH.
Are you deliberatly being a twit in order to waste my time? I don't have to reply to you you know.. Stop wasting my time or i'm just going to ignore you in future.
@2DRonaldo No you moron, they abolished the death penalty in Britain because it was a CLASS issue. You know the Middle Classers wanted the old tools of the old state abolished. But they didnt secure their freedom by obtaining sufficent weapons to protect themselves from the state with.
If the Death Penalty is a detterent, why dont cops in Airports walk around with nooses wrapped around thier wastes and in thier belt loops. And why instead do they carry Sub Machine Guns?
@2DRonaldo Erm your arguement that the death penalty was an effecient deterrent means the abolishment of it in Britain was intened to increase crime figures? LOL WTF.
It was banned not because of a few injustices but because it posed a clear threat to class mobility. If the old establishment had control over the courts, the police they could dispatch 'trouble makers' as they do in Saudi Arabia to this day.
Now you must realise, you still have the death penalty in Britain today, only it comes in the form of a SMG, or a riot control club upside the head. How can you urge the police to disarm themselves? Answer is you cant, so you have no protection from the death penalty and still you oppose gun ownership for citizens because why?
@2DRonaldo Your being selective. You must publish Total Murders in Britain seeing as guns arent in circulation amongst the LAW ABIDING citizens, im proving to you that the UK is a regressive shit hole that is locked in Medieval behaviour.
Im also argueing the point for the modernization of our Civil rights to defend our lives with lethal force legally. Your still pretending Guns save no lives and want an entirely Crime orientated arguement leading me down the garden path.
The EU is a Social /Ecomomic Superstate, it's not an episode of 'Little House On The Prarie'. Just as with a knife; it can be used for good and bad. Hitler promised good if he had total power (like the EU), then he made evil without any barriers. It was created post WWII and it's purpose was lost at the fall of the Soviet Union. Yet still surviving without purpose; like the Monarchy.
The fringe parties are not after killing the EU, but not allowing it too much power.
Gratex, gratex, gratex. Pat Condell's vote is a protest vote. The UKIP is not likely to get anywhere near power.
He's protesting that immigration policy should be prioritized higher. 1 mil. people every 5 years. That's quite a bit above the limit for what is healthy for a sovereign nation. Is it not?
We've never had a real immigration policy because we've never really needed one. All the parties standing for election are going to change that, so why the UKIP? It's more than a protest at immigration, immigration itself is a bullshit gatekeeper concept masking something fundamentally deeper, in pat's case it is multiculturalism - ie the EVIL reality that people don't want to sing at the last night of the proms, those evil people!
where is your followup on this? you say rights make slaves of us all, yet applied to history you see that slavery existed prior to human rights, and was socially acceptable behaviour also. There are many reasons for having rights that are firmly based on historical narratives of most cultures. Or perhaps you like to imagine disavowing yourself of any responsibility for ensuring your community is slavery free? Whilst simultaneously complaining that rights make slavery, ofc.
@gratex My follow up is that we need to focus on freedoms, not "rights". Freedoms do not demand another furnish anything, but just not do things, so a freedom to get educated only asks that people do not prevent it, as happens to girls in Afghanistan. If you have a right to an education, one must force other people to pay for it, making them slaves. Rights are loved by Authoritiarians, Freedoms are loved by Libertarians.
your freedom to type comments on my videos ends where my freedom to not read your comments begin. Rights establish boundaries between individuals whose freedoms conflict.
Hmm. 15 secs in and I'm bored already. Sorry. I'm jjust the same with EVERYONE tho, so don't do doing a Minge Hair Gary and blocking me, will ya? You CAN be funny and I'm sure there are sopme valid point sin this 7.18 time of stuff.
Pat Condell usually elicits dead serious responses from you I noticed. Good to see another video. Your prophecy of a return to isolated feudalism here on Britain is an interesting one. Planning to do a response to Gary's two part response to you? He read out my comment, I was only implying we should go for a pint :(
As for the video response... it's to show unity between the Highlands and Lowlands. Or something.
Here's a question, do you view Condell as potentially dangerous?
@gratex In a probably futile attempt to salvage a relationship destroyed five years ago. I say "down your way" because I can only assume you're in the general Glasgow area. Could be wrong. Doesn't matter. Anyway, looking forward to more videos. I didn't miss YouTube until I came back weirdly.
true there are many stupid things that the EU has done, but they've probably saved 1000s of workers with similar H&S laws. The media always focuses on the stupid laws whilst ignoring the sensible, progressive ones. They do this to control the popular image of the EU, probably unconsciously.
but but but... they want to ban our curvy cucumbers and wonky bananas!! The EU is a billion times more evil than hitler ever was and it must be stopped at all costs!
Uncle G; this is serious, it deserves a homage. I like you uncle G; we share a very very similar world view, not identical obviously but yes good words there.
Tonight i work on a homage to the true hero of the hour though, it shall be patriotic and celebrate the best of britain on top, not to mention be packing that tune of national splendor that comes to mind every time the great one embarks on one of his just tirades.
the tories liked the idea of free trade, if they were long-sighted or imaginative enough they would have realised it was a slippery slope to the peasants having rights etc, which is, of course, something that disgusts them. A peasant with rights is like a black person allowed to sit anywhere on a bus ffs!
Good arguments and a nice counterpoint to Pat Condell's simplistic rantings and ravings.
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The EU has done f*** all for this country that our own politicians couldn't have done.
What if the EU decides to be tyrannical? The democratically elected European parliament has little real power, instead the unelected EU commission has most of the power - do some research man.
wordforge 1 year ago
pat condell is a cunt! he goes on about muslims and christians should not be allowed to believe in what they choose, when he is spreading his extremist atheist views .
Haruhide86 1 year ago
0:54 Poll Tax, forbidding settling migrants from voting etc....yah the Tories are cockfaggots, but worse of all is this mob are NeoCons straight out of Washington D.C's school of thought.
These twats are also the same twits that idolise Thatcher, the witch that wanted the Berlin wall to remain standing as long as possible. A Cold War till Europe would be redefined by the fracture of West Vs East...
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
Gratex you should hide behind your beard again, you scared my parrot so bad hes still hiding in the microwave 18hours after he glimpsed your mug on the viddy box.
UKip is a party for inbreeding and fox torturing.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
It sounds like your computer is really struggling to cool itself.
Wahey! Tory rule is back(ish). Hold on, there may be a bumpy ride ahead!
ultimateinfinite 1 year ago
I bet you have to have a lot of money to start your own business on your little island. Especially if you have to give every employee payed vacations every year. Nothing like strangling small business creation with EU barriers to entry. Some of these points you and caughlan bring up just sound so trivial and yet you are sooo impassioned. It sounds extremely fake your saying,
"How dare you Condel for being a conservative and telling people about it."
what a crime.
hozehd 1 year ago
@hozehd
Your rhetoric is tedious and laden with insecurity.
gratex 1 year ago
you are right on on this: we do not trade freedom for safety or for security, we trade is only for other superior freedoms.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
british on british fighting... yes!
pyrrho314 1 year ago
@pyrrho314 Hes Scottish you moron, you know the guys who want out of the British Union before the victims of British Modernisation start asking for reperation payment. Its clever Scottish penny pinching self protectionism, get out, blame England and make buttzekks with the EU.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
Gratex have you seen what I'm up to over at my channel
I'm serious we've found a stop gap solution to whats happening.
We're going to call upon God for the miricle of divine origin and darken the earth for three days and nights>
I'm not shitting you, I believe this will acctually work...
early2it 1 year ago
@early2it
lol
go do it, then
i remember praying once.
then I remembered there was nothng at the other end of the line
so I grew up, faced up rather than yoking up ;)
lulz, though.
have fun with your mentalism!
gratex 1 year ago
What about employer rights to pay whatever they want and give whatever holidays they like? You are just taking away one persons rights and giving unwarranted power to someone else. I am not rich but I do not think moral for the government to make laws about such things. The employer and employee should negotiate it between themselves. If the employee doesn't accept it he can find another job. Property rights, freedom of speech, freedom from violence - these are real human rights.
Ermintrude75 1 year ago
@Ermintrude75
In what way is it unwarranted for an individual to be able to bargain effectively with employers? It's a marketplace that can easily lead to outright slavery without some kind of state referee in there. Employees can find another job? This is a simplistic excuse you store within your brain, the reality is a complex job market where one has to lower one's standards because others do so easily.
gratex 1 year ago
Tom Newton Dunn must die...I bought The Sun as a cheap alternative to my usual brand of toilet paper today and saw the continued support for Cameron via the aforementioned... Sun Readers (I use the word read loosely...) get everything they deserve. And I hope TND catches HIV
bongolicious 1 year ago
Nationalism, slick as BP.
Di0genesus 1 year ago
I love that when you're angry, you're really angry.
MetaCraken 1 year ago
Pat Condell should be killed.
LimpLoser 1 year ago
I'm really kind of confused by the responses Pat's getting.
He does pretty explicitly say 'vote for who you believe in'. Okay so he's voting UKIP... one of my best mates is considering voting BNP. Sometimes people do odd things, and vote because they agree on one issue so strongly they'll forgive plenty of others.
iamthedave3 1 year ago
oh god, anybody that disagrees with you is a bigot, typical leftist operative
Dimension3D2 1 year ago
Pat Condell is being DMCA'ed by that troll Elliot Brown at the moment, his ukip video has been removed by Youtube.
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
someone silence this peasant!
jmeiskues 1 year ago
you aren't allowed to leave a country if UKIP gains control? they jail and lock you in their country? What?
HugNow 1 year ago
OK. SECOND viewing and I still made it to less than TWO minutes. I guess it's that fucking stupid title. I can see why Inmendham hands you your arse, to be honest. Just how bothered are you about politics? And just how much do you know about what you're voting for? Just how strategically can you think? You're right. Long comment but haven't even watched much of what's coming out of your face. I've heard it ALL BEFORE.
ArtificialCleverenAI 1 year ago
Ok. Ben's comment has made me want to watch more. Thanks for the nag. You bloody goofy man, you.
ArtificialCleverenAI 1 year ago
ok.. i admit it.. i commented b4 the end.. and now that ive watched it all.. SO fuckin faved.
awesome. a demolition job of epic proportions. i do hope he sees this.
oojamaflipper 1 year ago
Brilliant.
InnerSpaceTourist 1 year ago
"Never equate Nationalism with Freedom"
Hear, Hear.
Mjhavok 1 year ago
thumbs up fella.
tho i bet it was scripted and rehersed.. ur just better at hiding it. : P
oojamaflipper 1 year ago
I agree, nationalism is sick. Future generations will laugh, perhaps cry, at our imaginary lines on the ground and I wish I could say that separating people based on culture is primitive animal like behaviour but the truth is animals are a bit more human than us. Once the people are throughouly mixed, twisted characters won't dare to blow themselves up in fear of also killing a sister and angry young men will refuse to invade other countries because they would be killing their brothers.
LittleBlueBird 1 year ago
well said... though, as usual, this whole bickering misses the true point anarchism brings to the table. states are bad... but still creating super or global state may be better than letting capitalist overlords play the national card on the poor workers.
jogayot 1 year ago
@jogayot
yes it's a progressive move imo. This immigration saga is clearly an ultra-fnord.
gratex 1 year ago
Interesting stuff man.... BTW you will be long gone b4 the Oil runs out my friend... :)
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 1 year ago
Oh damn! Ha ha ha! Oh, you lefties are too far gone over there! A "right" for time off! LMAO! Call a thing for what it is! A "right to lounge around more than you deserve and get paid for it!" The wheel of fate is about to roll over us in the mud. Better everyone's freedom than everyone else's free goodies. You've already lost your right to bear arms. What's next to go? A people caged and fattened for slaughter.
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
@QuartuvLarry
get back in your cage you poor, deluded property of corporate america.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex Hehehe! "Cage" he says! Hmmm...nnnnno. I think I'll stay out of the cage. Or you can try to sell off on me your semantics of what a "cage" is. But it'll just be a red herring anyway.
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
@QuartuvLarry
A cage is the little square box rush limbaugh tucks you into at night so that you can sleep comfortably knowing that patriotic fervour will protect you from the boogeyman.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex Ah. NOW I see the light! Let us NOT be the bastion of freedom and liberty where little recourse can be found globally on a 1st world level. How dare my intrepidity!
And what bedtime comfort do you reserve for yourself, if you must wonder daily how open the fleeting door to expatriation is to you? To where should you flee? And what sanctuary of liberty do I deserve to attend if not my own homeland?
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
@QuartuvLarry You have been brainwashed into thinking you should work 365 days of the year. Your own minds traps you in your lot.
Yes guns, let us talk about that. Your right to guns has totally stop America being swallowed up by corporate interests. Your country has turned into one big corporation. They corporations publicly swears fealty to the flag, the constitution and FREEDOM! but in reality is doesn't give a flying fuck.
Oh the land of the free, and the home, of the, brave!!!! MEGA LULZ
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
@AntiSisyphus I thought you were going to talk about guns. What happened? You digressed back to corporatist aversion before you got there. Go on...
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
@QuartuvLarry Nice dodge. My point since I have to remove all subtlety is that your right to own a gun does you no good. Did it stop the banks being bailed out? Did it stop military spending? Do you even know why you have the right to own a gun? What is the purpose of your 2nd amendment? People like you wave your gun in the air and think your free while your county undergoes a coup d'état in slow motion. Do you really think you are going to have a well organised militia or citizens. lol.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
@AntiSisyphus of citizens*
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
@AntiSisyphus LOL! Ya gotta admit it makes things a little bit harder to load us onto cattlecars en masse, such as it was for the Jews of Poland and the Ukraine. It's going to be a little more difficult to control us, especially since owning firearms is merely one facet of resistance we have up our sleeve. Do you really think we don't know about the insolubility of our banks? (I suppose that's what the nazis were stripping their unarmed prisoners of before loading them onto cattlecars)
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
@QuartuvLarry It doesn't require weapons to control the minds of millions. Fox News and Rush Limbaugh do it everyday. The teabaggers are loaded to the teeth and they get controlled like lemmings whenever they attend one of their clan rallies.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
@AntiSisyphus Ha ha ha! Ohhhh, Sisyphus, Sisyphus, Sisyphus! How the lemming does so blindly describe its own chains! LOL! Uh, WHO is the one being controlled here? Considering YOU are the one who unquestioningly believes the breathless and unfounded claims by the mainstream media that we all attend "clan rallies," you're in no position to lash out at the independent political thought we hold outside your lefty party's little think-box, mmkay?
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
@QuartuvLarry @QuartuvLarry Unfortunately you are wrong. Did I mention "mainstream" or what I would call Corporate media. No I didn't. I get my media from independent sources and from news programmes like DemocracyNow which doesn't have any corporate backers. I then analyses it and route out the assumptions that are made during the broadcast or article. I then decide what I think.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
@AntiSisyphus Fine. Mainstream or not, though, if you've as yet adopted the myth that our tea party is part of the (how's it spelled?) klan, you've already jumped onto the close-minded lefty groupthink bandwagon. Our tea party is comprised of a diverse variety of conservatives, independents, and libertarians, but I shouldn't have to tell you what you SHOULD be observing for yourself. We just attended the cannabis crusade to legalize marijuana this past Saturday. Call it a sequel, if you like
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
@QuartuvLarry The clan remark was to deliberately antagonise you. Everyone knows superman defeated the Klan.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
@AntiSisyphus Well then, if you hadn't tried to antagonize me, I might not have besmirched you.
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
@QuartuvLarry [cont/] You try and besmirch me with what you must do. I think the psychologists call that projection. As for independent thought, LOL, I remember reading about similar independent thought that occurred in late Weimar Germany.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
UKIP are just a softer Version of the BNP! And although I do NOT agree with the BNP's Opinions on other Races & Gays, I DO agree with their intrepid promice to get ISLAM out of our country. And THAT is why I will vote for them. God have mercy on my soul.
therealKINDLE 1 year ago
@therealKINDLE
nobody can get a religion out of a country, it's a physical impossibility. do you think the ukip will be able to remove legal citizens from this country?? this is delusion.
gratex 1 year ago 2
@gratex Do you have any better suggestions?!!! I don't agree with Saudi Law, Honour killings, Rape & Marrige of Children, Convert or Kill, Torture, Terrorism, and I want to see that episode of South Park Damn it!!! lol!!
But the BNP are the People to do it, if anyone can.
therealKINDLE 1 year ago
@therealKINDLE
The BNP will show you south park? the bnp will forcibly remove anyone who reads from a book (not just the koran, mind).
you're a fucking moron.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex
Abso-feckin'lutly.. My Ancestors are Scottish/Welsh/Irish/German etc.. Anyone can convert to Islam, i'd like to see the fuckers throw me out.
UKIP want the Church of England and the Monarchy to assume total power again like they did in the past.. And Condell wants to call himself an Atheist???
He's a bigot, a total utter bigot!
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo the Queen of England has been a rather nice old lady granted she is Royalty. Could be worse mayng,you could be stuck with a batshit insane sand nignog like Kadafi that wants his herd of camels to sleep under the same tent as his fleet of luxury class European cars.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
It's like we tell those that sponge off the benefits that they're lazy scum that need a job.. The Royals only started contributing taxes around 96-98, they are the biggest spongers of the lot who get the finest education, train in the higest positions of the military to stroke their shallow egos.
They should look after themselves with the Charities they run and live with what they get.
They could live with Kadaffi and his camels if they want to leech off the workers.
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo Well, your middle class workers utopia is a shit hole without talking about Other Peoples Money, which is the OPiuM of the middle class struggle/warfare.
You middle classer wankers have created a crime state that disarms the victims, enables the abusers, robs from the havenots to give to the colonists.....
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
LOL you're a gun tooting yank I presume?
You're more likely to die from gunshot in America than you are in Britain.. Wish you fucktards will give the 'State out to get us' paranoia a rest, rather be alive than have a bullet in my brain by some dumb yank.
America's Gun Homicide rate is around 12,000+ Deaths a year to Britain's 300+ a Year.
Allot of Mexicos murder rates are down to Guns being smuggled over the border from the US.. You lot are a disease.
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo and this is from the nation that has that thieving bearded inbreeding cunt Darwin printed on your money....You value nothing but your sheepish life.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
As opposed to that theiving Catholic Church that sanctioned the Genocide of America's Native population.
If Science hurts your brain so much you shouldn't mention it.
Besides, haven't you got a defensless Possum to shoot over there in trailer trash land?
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo science doesnt hurt me, firearms are all about science, and laws. Darwin stole his so called 'Origin of species' from a gentlemen named Wallace.
The Native Indians were part of the process you worship known as natural selection, its horrible I know to admit it but you know the truth.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
LMAO.. Whether it was Darwin or Wallace who came up with it first, doesn't disprove Evolution?
Character Assassination, just shows your argument has fallen apart and so soon as well.
Evolution has been proven on the Micro-level, even through plant specimans
All that matters is Evolution is proven fact.. I know it's hard for a Limbic Texan brain to comprehend but you'll get over it with a Possum hunt. ;-D
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo Where did I dispute evolution? If you follow the evolutionist/survival of the fittest why did you drag out the native American Indians of the closet? Looking for a emo-bone to break? You still havent explained why you are supposadly 'pro science' yet anti catalytic chemical reaction. All you did was quote some statistics, but what you failed to compensate for was the neanderthalic like violent crime in Britain where guns arent in high numbers but death by caveman like brutality is.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
You critiscised the UK for it's Gun related Crime.
You might as well say making Murder a Crime doesn't work either.. That's what you base your argument on.
You make guns illegal isn't going to zero Gun Crime, but you greatly reduce the numbers of gun related crimes, less idiots getting their hands on guns, less death.. Fact.
Violence will never be erradicated but you've got a better chance to defend yourself if the criminal hasn't get a gun.
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
(cont..)
If you're not against Evolution then why attack me over it by discrediting Darwin and mocking people over Natural Selection?
Like I said, I prefer not to waste my time with Character Assasinations and Creationist piss ants.
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo Darwin is on your money, and its proven Darwin stole the limelight and organised a way of getting Wallace stuck in the shade. What does that say about the credibility of the money that Darwins likeness rests on?
Id love to see you clarify where im engaging in character assasination.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
"Darwin is on your money, and its proven Darwin stole the limelight and organised a way of getting Wallace stuck in the shade."
Fascinating story but so what???
Why is it relivent to me? Or to this argument? You brought it up, not me which was originally some rant about the Middle Class and guns.
I'm no Darwinist.. I never said I was a Darwinist.. Where the fuck did you get that from?
God sake!! You're a loon.
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo You assumed I was an American for mentioning something about guns. That was your mistake. I am not American buddy, and this might send you a little dizzy, im actually English. :)
Keep on pretending you got it right ; ) your assumptions pretty much sum up British Elitism. As for Darwin, you certainly are a Darwinist because you dont CARE ABOUT THE SCANDLE.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo No you crticised the US for Gun crime statistics, pretending that a black market would never exist and firearm availability would drop off if Guns were not available to the citizens of the U.S.A (depending on state laws and regs ofc).People have a better chance to defend themselves with a gun, because physical conditioning is not a great factor. Where the U.S.A has a work ethic of "Work Smarter Not Harder" you hold the work ethic of "Ug Ug Ug Me club and kick me win".
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
"No you crticised the US for Gun crime statistics",
If it doesn't work? Fix it, but don't critiscise my Country with lies, i'll expose every shit argument you come up with.
"pretending that a black market would never exist and firearm "
Where's your proof? Oh wait there is none.. More Character Assassination?
".People have a better chance to defend themselves with a gun"
Tell that to the 4 ARMED Cops that were gunned down in Washington State.
Yanks blame Mexican's and eat too much.
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo 4 armed cops eh? Well its a dangerous job dealing with criminals and all. Did those cops wear duty armour? You know like the Bobby in Britain wears Kevlar anti stab/slash/needle vests? Did you know though that the Cops in America dont wear solid shell Helmets. I guess the average British Bobby is far more likely to recieve blows to the face and head than a cop in America.
Who of the two (not cops, criminals) is the most regressive? Hint the UK is stuck in the medieval age.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
12,000+ Homicides in the US per year.
300+ in Britain per year
Kids that die through accidental shooting is the highest in America by over 2 thirds are they fighting off Criminals?
Knife Crime in the US is extremly high as well, utterly dwarfs Britain's Knife Crime figures, it's a culture thing.
You're making shit up all the time, I didn't deny that there wouldn't be a Black Market, I did say however..
"You make guns illegal isn't going to zero Gun Crime"
*Yawn*
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo What is the equivelancy of these crime figures? America is a VERY BIG place you know. Sarah Palin can see Russia from here house (LOLZ)
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo as for criticising 'my' Country. Did you hear about your legal system a Teacher grabbed a student, picked up a dumbell weighing (3kg) and proceeded to hit the student in the head with it while shouting "Die Die Die" infront of the entire class. Thats like punching someone with a knuckle duster amirite? And guess what, your 'Justice System' let him walk away from an attempted Murder charge. The student had a fractured skull btw. So back to 4, quadruple murder - did they arrest the guy?
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
"as for criticising 'my' Country. blah blah blah irrelivent distraction from the gun argument blah blah blah."
Guess you've run out of bullshit, I will bid you good day sir, thanks for the distraction. ;-)
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo its no distraction and you know it, The key part was my closing sentence.
Did they arrest the quadruple murderer? Or did they kill him? And what would the 'justice' system have done if they caught the murderer? Would they put him in a pyscho prison with olympic swimming pools, Playstations etc or would they have him leathally injected. Face it Guns save lives. Libtards who are threatened by guns probably prefer boomerangs or whips or something ghey.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
Again, another bullshit distraction.. The Death Penalty isn't a deterrent to murder, plus it costs more than enprisoning them.
America has one of the highest Prison populations in the World and it's full to bursting that they're releasing low risk prisoners.
What does this have to do with Gun Crime?
You've not proved anything, i've utterly destroyed your argument with statistical data; Like I said you're merely wasting my time with distractions.
Debunk or sod off?
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo Its not supposed to be a deterrent you idiot. Its there to kill the criminal.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
The Death Penalty IS a deterrent, that's why we abolished it over here in the UK, it was the main reason, plus allot of innocent people wrongly accused were put to death.. YES Innocent people were PUT TO DEATH.
Are you deliberatly being a twit in order to waste my time? I don't have to reply to you you know.. Stop wasting my time or i'm just going to ignore you in future.
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo No you moron, they abolished the death penalty in Britain because it was a CLASS issue. You know the Middle Classers wanted the old tools of the old state abolished. But they didnt secure their freedom by obtaining sufficent weapons to protect themselves from the state with.
If the Death Penalty is a detterent, why dont cops in Airports walk around with nooses wrapped around thier wastes and in thier belt loops. And why instead do they carry Sub Machine Guns?
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo Erm your arguement that the death penalty was an effecient deterrent means the abolishment of it in Britain was intened to increase crime figures? LOL WTF.
It was banned not because of a few injustices but because it posed a clear threat to class mobility. If the old establishment had control over the courts, the police they could dispatch 'trouble makers' as they do in Saudi Arabia to this day.
[Continued]
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
Now you must realise, you still have the death penalty in Britain today, only it comes in the form of a SMG, or a riot control club upside the head. How can you urge the police to disarm themselves? Answer is you cant, so you have no protection from the death penalty and still you oppose gun ownership for citizens because why?
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
@SecretTrollAccount1
UK population is 62 million, 300 gun related homicides a year.
Now let's match that with America's Population to see if there is a simularity?
4x62 Million=310 Million
4x300=1200
United States population=300 Million
US Gun Homicides=12,000
4x300 = 1200
10,200+ Difference.
PWNED !!
2DRonaldo 1 year ago
@2DRonaldo Your being selective. You must publish Total Murders in Britain seeing as guns arent in circulation amongst the LAW ABIDING citizens, im proving to you that the UK is a regressive shit hole that is locked in Medieval behaviour.
Im also argueing the point for the modernization of our Civil rights to defend our lives with lethal force legally. Your still pretending Guns save no lives and want an entirely Crime orientated arguement leading me down the garden path.
SecretTrollAccount1 1 year ago
The EU is a Social /Ecomomic Superstate, it's not an episode of 'Little House On The Prarie'. Just as with a knife; it can be used for good and bad. Hitler promised good if he had total power (like the EU), then he made evil without any barriers. It was created post WWII and it's purpose was lost at the fall of the Soviet Union. Yet still surviving without purpose; like the Monarchy.
The fringe parties are not after killing the EU, but not allowing it too much power.
RebeccaFarquharson 1 year ago
@RebeccaFarquharson
Hitler was a nationalist.
The EU can never have that much power, and even if it could it wouldn't have the rhetorical and propaganda power that nationalism provided hitler.
gratex 1 year ago
@RebeccaFarquharson Yes, Hitler and the EU are same. Nicely done. You automatically fail.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
What a civil bunch you atheist activists are lol.
cheekydance 1 year ago
@cheekydance
im an atheist activist now?
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex It is the internet generation gratex. You make a video on YouTube or a group on facebook and you are an activist.
Emily Davison would be proud.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
Tories: "I've never helped the poor before... and I'm not about to bloody well start."
Labour: "One day son, all this debt will be yours."
It's a grand world we live in, isn't it? Also, sneaky linkety linkety: watch?v=KJIn0GvG3DU
CuriousMoth 1 year ago
@CuriousMoth
yes democracy is almost dead in its' current form.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex Check out a book titled Democracy, Inc. By Sheldon Wolin.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
Any video that contains the phrase fuck you Condell is worth a thumbs up.
ScottishAtheist 1 year ago 2
Get ORFFFF me LARRRRR-ND!
hippyraverocker 1 year ago
Gratex, gratex, gratex. Pat Condell's vote is a protest vote. The UKIP is not likely to get anywhere near power.
He's protesting that immigration policy should be prioritized higher. 1 mil. people every 5 years. That's quite a bit above the limit for what is healthy for a sovereign nation. Is it not?
iamterrentia 1 year ago
@iamterrentia
We've never had a real immigration policy because we've never really needed one. All the parties standing for election are going to change that, so why the UKIP? It's more than a protest at immigration, immigration itself is a bullshit gatekeeper concept masking something fundamentally deeper, in pat's case it is multiculturalism - ie the EVIL reality that people don't want to sing at the last night of the proms, those evil people!
don't ever "gratex gratex gratex" me again.
gratex 1 year ago
@iamterrentia He could protest vote for the Greens or a Socialist party.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
If you had any idea of the "unintended" consequences of "human rights" you would want none of it, unless you were an Authoritarian.
Rights put an obligation on another to fund or provide it. No consent, an obligation. It makes slaves of us all.
The EU does not make you a peasant, it makes you a serf. It does not believe in free trade - the EU is a tariff club with a high wall around it.
p.s. MEPs are puppets. Unlike MPs they cannot propose legislation. All they do is rubber stamp.
harlingtonstraker 1 year ago
@harlingtonstraker
Rights makes slaves of us all, as compared to what? Anarchy? You are critcising a position without offering an alternative to compare it with.
gratex 1 year ago
@harlingtonstraker
where is your followup on this? you say rights make slaves of us all, yet applied to history you see that slavery existed prior to human rights, and was socially acceptable behaviour also. There are many reasons for having rights that are firmly based on historical narratives of most cultures. Or perhaps you like to imagine disavowing yourself of any responsibility for ensuring your community is slavery free? Whilst simultaneously complaining that rights make slavery, ofc.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex My follow up is that we need to focus on freedoms, not "rights". Freedoms do not demand another furnish anything, but just not do things, so a freedom to get educated only asks that people do not prevent it, as happens to girls in Afghanistan. If you have a right to an education, one must force other people to pay for it, making them slaves. Rights are loved by Authoritiarians, Freedoms are loved by Libertarians.
harlingtonstraker 1 year ago
@harlingtonstraker
your freedom to type comments on my videos ends where my freedom to not read your comments begin. Rights establish boundaries between individuals whose freedoms conflict.
gratex 1 year ago
You make some good points, though I would like the EU to be run much better.
deadly22sniper 1 year ago
lol fag
Freshman000000 1 year ago
Hmm. 15 secs in and I'm bored already. Sorry. I'm jjust the same with EVERYONE tho, so don't do doing a Minge Hair Gary and blocking me, will ya? You CAN be funny and I'm sure there are sopme valid point sin this 7.18 time of stuff.
ArtificialCleverenAI 1 year ago
@ArtificialCleverenAI So bored that you made a longish comment.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
Pat Condell usually elicits dead serious responses from you I noticed. Good to see another video. Your prophecy of a return to isolated feudalism here on Britain is an interesting one. Planning to do a response to Gary's two part response to you? He read out my comment, I was only implying we should go for a pint :(
As for the video response... it's to show unity between the Highlands and Lowlands. Or something.
Here's a question, do you view Condell as potentially dangerous?
TheFinalHighlander 1 year ago
@TheFinalHighlander
I won't be responding to Gary, no, I don't see the point?
Why are you coming here?
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex In a probably futile attempt to salvage a relationship destroyed five years ago. I say "down your way" because I can only assume you're in the general Glasgow area. Could be wrong. Doesn't matter. Anyway, looking forward to more videos. I didn't miss YouTube until I came back weirdly.
TheFinalHighlander 1 year ago
It's some of the EU health and safty laws that anoy me, they have had to ruin so many parks for the sake of stupid kids.
ajuk1 1 year ago
@ajuk1
true there are many stupid things that the EU has done, but they've probably saved 1000s of workers with similar H&S laws. The media always focuses on the stupid laws whilst ignoring the sensible, progressive ones. They do this to control the popular image of the EU, probably unconsciously.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex Most British "news"papers have a conservative bent so I don't know how unconscious it is.
AntiSisyphus 1 year ago
but but but... they want to ban our curvy cucumbers and wonky bananas!! The EU is a billion times more evil than hitler ever was and it must be stopped at all costs!
TJay9000 1 year ago
I hope they bring back that "Braveheart" law where Scottish women about to marry get to sleep with an English nobleman.
stanburdman 1 year ago
He's stitched himself up like a U-kipper.
yeahwotevaman 1 year ago
Uncle G; this is serious, it deserves a homage. I like you uncle G; we share a very very similar world view, not identical obviously but yes good words there.
Tonight i work on a homage to the true hero of the hour though, it shall be patriotic and celebrate the best of britain on top, not to mention be packing that tune of national splendor that comes to mind every time the great one embarks on one of his just tirades.
SothisAmon 1 year ago
can Amerika join the EU?
Barklord 1 year ago
@Barklord
Not until it wholly bans the death penalty ;)
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex
hey, Texass may try to secede so then we're one step closer.
Barklord 1 year ago
Pretty ironic considering it was the Tories who got us in to it.
They don't seem to make them like Ted Heath anymore.
dartaddict 1 year ago
@dartaddict
the tories liked the idea of free trade, if they were long-sighted or imaginative enough they would have realised it was a slippery slope to the peasants having rights etc, which is, of course, something that disgusts them. A peasant with rights is like a black person allowed to sit anywhere on a bus ffs!
gratex 1 year ago
Please check out - The Venus Project.
Lingerfoot 1 year ago
@Lingerfoot
it's modern-day marxism.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex
Or Nick Griffin becoming the next Pope.
dartaddict 1 year ago