The idea that someone who deliberately chokes someone else to make a point on power play would be proving they are NOT a monster is cracking me up. That is exactly what they would be proving to me.
But be that as it may, it is clear that noone will change anyone's mind here so I for one will just say that I'm looking forward to the new Season and yes, the tension in the relationship.
I have no problem with either brother in this clip. It's actually rather mild.
"And yes telling Dean who is following some bloodthirsty violent murderer instead of listening to reason that he was using him as a replacement for his dad"
Actually, he was using him as a replacement for SAM, because he couldn't talk to Sam. He even said as much. (Can't tell all this to Sammy... have to keep my game face on.) It was Dean opening up to someone else when he wouldn't open up to Sam that Sam couldn't tolerate, which is why he went for the low blow.
Do you realize that you Samfans and you Deanfans sound almost interchangeable in your complaints?!? That you and accuse Sam and Dean of the same things? It's all "Sam is mean to Dean", "Dean is mean to Sam", "saint Dean" "perfect Sam". You spend all your time fighting each other and criticizing the "other" brother and the show. Are you even still enjoying the show?
Anyway, THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE CLIP. I look forward to seeing more of Sam, Dean, Cas and Bobby in S5!
Well, you didn't really think you limpdickers had the market cornered on the YouTube comments section, did you? Either stay in your little hidey-hole, or be ready for debate. Can't have it both ways.
"It's not like he hit him from nowhere like the punch in Bloodlust."
Nowhere? Sam had just told Dean that he was disrespecting the memory of their father, when Dean was the one who had respected their father all their lives and was currently being ripped apart by the weight of respecting their father's last wish. Come on, Charli! Do you really think we don't remember the episode?
Poor Dean? the last wish ? kill his brother, he decides not to tell Sam something directly involving him.
And yes telling Dean who is following some bloodthirsty violent murderer instead of listening to reason that he was using him as a replacement for his dad was exactly right that was COMPLETELY true that's WHY Dean hit him, it hit too close to home.
Some of us do remember that episode. He was lashing out at Sam but strange how people just like to blame Sam. That's why Dean apologised.
Dean wa not innocent in this and just blaming Sam is childish.
Both made terrrible mistakes and I want a fair situation not Dean right Sam wrong because thats isnt the case.
I didnt like some of the things did but neither did I like some things Dean did . Sam might have to take the main load but it wold be lying to pretend Dean was innocent in any of this.
" a psychologist would consider as a demonstration of power in the middle of a fight"
What do you suppose that psychologist would say to the victim of said sociopathic "demonstration of power"? I have a feeling the psychologist would say, "Get the fuck out of Dodge, sweetheart, because that guy is gonna finish the job one of these days."
I imagine the 'psychologist' would say what she'd have said to Sam after Dean punched him in the face and verbally lashed out at Sam iN ELAC and Bloodlust because of his own feelings of guilt, the exact same thing she'd have told Dean this past season.
Both these boys have made mistakes stop making it so ridiculously black & white that Sam is this evil person and Dean is holier than thou, they are both to blame for their behaviours last season.
A psychologist would have told Sam to go and lead his independent life ages ago. Dean is a controlling, needy, hypocritical individual with the emotional maturity of a 3 year od. he acks meta.cogintive capabilities totally. He's a textbook borderline case.
Sam demonstrated that he wasn't the monster Dean accused him of being. A monster would have killed him .
So yes, the demonstration of power is head on. You have no idea what a sociopath is, do you?
According to Jared Padalecki in SPN mag, it's SAM who is "needy"! He's also controlling. Sam wanted to do everything HIS way last season. HE *had* to be the one to kill Lilith. He told himself in WTLB that HE's the strong one, HE's the one with the destiny and Dean is weak and wrong. Sam is just as hypocritical as Dean... he tried to make a deal with a CRD too, for example.
Sam could have demonstrated he wasn't a monster by NOT choking Dean and by NOT choosing to go off with a demon.
The point is that both brothers have their flaws. You seem very anti-sam, but remember the differences between the deals that Sam and Dean tried, and in Deans case, did, and you will see Dean as flawed and weak. Look at the actions of Sam at the end of season four, and you will see him as arrogant and foolish.
TL;DR: Dont favor one over the other, they both suck.
Sam is apologizing, but he doesn't seem sincere. And he's apologizing for releasing Lucifer, not for the things he did to Dean, like lie, beat him, sneak out, suck blood, insult Dean and nearly killing him. For this Dean has to learn? If anyone has to learn, it should be Sam. Lesson one Sam, Dean's not your personal punching bag, he's your brother. Start treating him like one and stop expecting Dean to forgive everything you do and brush it off, like you're expecting him to do it now.
Dean punched Sam and made him his scapegoat after their Dad died, getting mad and lashing out and even phsyically hitting Sam then, and they both sorted through all that. Now the pair of them including the ever unblamable Dean *eyeroll* have to work together to sort this out. Bobby was ten times better at dealing with Sam last season than Dean was.
Saint Dean? Really? The Sam fans have Sam as an innocent victim in all this. Sam does nothing wrong, never did never will. He's just a poor woobie that tries so hard, poor Sam. Mean Dean just doesn't understand his poor brother. If Dean can't be nice to Sam, then Dean should leave Sam on his own. After all, poor Sam would be better off without mean Dean there. I know I'd be better off if Dean left Sam's sorry ass behind. Bobby was ready to throw Sam to the wolves. Or did you forget WTLB?
And Dean just wants to get on with working *together* to find Lucifer. Dean freely admits "WE started this." But Dean would rather focus on the big picture right now. He's responsible for more than just how SAM is feeling. He's hurt but he's swallowing his anger because he wants to work with Sam again. Dean should be allowed the time and space he needs to deal with his emotions the way that's best for him. But he wants to work with Sam and that's a positive thing for both boys.
Amazing. Dean is the one that went all out to try to save Sam, while Sam spent the year following the advice of a demon, insulting his brother, demeaning Dean by calling him weak in front of his face and Dean is the one that never learns? Learns what? To have Sam wipe his feet on him?
The fight was over and strangling someone on the ground to prove "hey, I could kill you if I want because I hold the power here" would be called sociopathic.
Obviously I don't believe that has happened, I believe Sam lost himself in a blind rage. But if he didn't, I'm not sure why people think that would be better. It's about a hundred times worse and would actually be completely damning to the character.
What annoys me is that dean always avoids a sincere conversation when sam needs to apologize or to explain something about himself (since season 1dean always said its ok, it doesnt matter, im tired). Maybe dean always needs time, but that lack of communication and sincerity in their relationship, is what makes sam believe that he can talk and be honest with anyone, but dean. If dean really wants to help sam, he should start listening.
Nobody likes to lie, but sometimes there are good reasons to lie and to develop a double life (for example, when u lie to your family bcause your family hate what u are). Nobody likes to fight, but sometimes u are SO HURT that u lose control and end up doing things u dont want to.
Dean rejects sam for what he is, but he KNOWS NOTHING about sam, bcause he always impedes sam to explain his actions, his feelings and his beliefs about what is to have demon blood in his body.
Dean never rejected Sam for "what" he is. Dean is wary of Sam's demon-given powers, and he's right to be. Dean loves Sam but he's gonna express his opinion about the powers that he feels are risky for Sam to use, and that's Dean's right.
Dean asked Sam to talk about it at the end of Meta, and Sam shut him down. Dean asked Sam to explain his reasons in Monster at the End of this Book, and Sam refused to talk about it. Sam could have explained, but he chose not to.
I'm not arguing the fact that Dean's entitled to an opinion at all, of course he is, what I'm arguing is that Sam is 'SOOOOO MEAN' to poor innocent Dean. They both made mistakes last season and I'd like to see them work together to repair them, I understand that will take time to sort through but if one brother isn't willing to try that ruins the brotherly reconcilliation.
Just because Dean needs some TIME to work on his emotions about what has happened, doesn't mean Dean isn't willing to try. Dean's actions and desire to work with Sam to fix what they started, tells me that he is willing. Dean has his own way of dealing with things. Just because he can't talk about it right now, doesn't mean he won't ever talk. Dean just needs to "do" something. And he's trying to tell Sam that he does want them to work TOGETHER, and right NOW, that needs to be good enough.
Well i can tell we're all starved for new episodes cause everybody analyzing the heck out of this clip. lol
Neither one of the brothers is wrong here so why the drama? Sam needed Dean to know he's sorry & Dean needs time to accept that.
but i gotta ask why do people keep saying Sam tried to kill Dean? He choked him which is bad & unacceptable Im not giving him a free pass on that but he wasnt trying kill him. No one was there to stop Sam if he was trying to kill Dean he would be dead.
Wow, Dean is a much better person than I would be if my brother actually tried to KILL ME. I'm not sure Sam realizes just how hurt Dean is after all the horrible things he did and said to Dean last season. Dean is just trying his best not to fight and to focus on the bigger (more important picture). He's got his walls up because that's what Dean needs to do to cope. Last time Dean opened up to Sam he got his emotions thrown back in his face with a "boo hoo" for what happened to him in hell.
So u never in the middle of a fight have lost control and have done and said horrible things to someone u love?
Sam wasnt trying to kill dean. The same act u consider an attempt to murder dean, a psychologist would consider as a demonstration of power in the middle of a fight.
And dean was not trying to murder sam when he locked him in the panic room knowing that a treatment like that may kill him. He just did what he thought was better.
You couldn't be more right iillarii21. Some people are so ridiculously unfair to Sam and letting off of Dean, both boys made mistakes. I excuse neither, I just hope with time they realise they are stronger together.
Dean was on the ground, going NOWHERE and Sam went in for the kill. Just because he didn't end up killing him doesn't mean that wasn't his intent.
And if you've ever had a loved one with a drug addiction, you might understand that it's not an easy thing to deal with. Dean and Bobby did the best they could to try to help Sam detox. It wasn't done out of anger. It was done out of LOVE and concern. Can't say that Sam choking Dean was out of "love."
Going nowhere? They just had a knockdown fight, he could quite easily have carried that on. He was hardly attacked from nowhere. Sam hit him cause Dean looked him in the eye & told him his greatest ever fear from the one person he loved most 'that he was a monster'. It's not like he hit him from nowhere like the punch in Bloodlust.
I won't excuse Sam strangling Dean, he was power mad with blood and borderline crazy but Dean isn't without judgement in all this. He made his own mistakes thanks
how people can blame Dean and justify Sam, I dont' know. Sam tried to kill him! I would never forgive somethitng like that. And he lied, choosed Ruby and ignored his feelings. I feel so sad for Dean, I think he'll be a bit indifferent and cold in regard to Sam and for me he has every right to have this reaction, completely understandable, but I know that a lot people will bashing him cause he's "bad" with poor Sammy, I wanna throw up
While I have to give Sam points for owning up to what he did, I guess for Dean at this point it's either ignore or let loose and say something incredibly nasty that wouldn't help. Thus, I don't blame him for ignoring.
And really, why I feel for Sam, that is called experiencing consequences for your actions. And this is like a mild breeze of that. He frankly has a lot more coming of it.
I disagree with you. Both boys made mistakes and hell yes Sam was out of order as was Dean, he called his brother a monster. They both have mistakes to make up for, backing off when they need to pull together more than ever is a RIDICULOUS suggestion to me but perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree.
For gods sake boys, Dean hon I KNOW you're feeling like you're going to have to regain trust in your brother ok but for the love of god, its the apocalypse. He's trying to start making it up to you, grow up dude.
You're brothers, you both need to remember how ridiculously important that is or i am NOT going to like you this season.
I'd say Dean is allowed to talk about things in his own time. He's probably still hurt and angry (as well he should be). But just because Sam wants to talk, doesn't mean Dean is ready to. And that doesn't mean Dean needs to "grow up." He deserves to deal with things in his own way. Sam needs to learn to back off. Or does he expect Dean not to be angry with him after Sam tried to kill him?
What's important now is to look at the big picture-- the apocalypse.
This reminds me of that girl in Atonement. You can't atone with ornate apologies. You have to do it with substance... by living better, by treating people better. And for heaven's sake, Sam tried to KILL Dean. That Dean is even in the same room with him right now ought to be more than enough to start with. Dean got mocked and degraded last season for sharing his feelings... he's not doing it again anytime soon, so move on and address this when everyone is ready to.
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I can't wait for this series to end. So that the stupid bickering ends too...between the Sam and Dean fans . It's getting annoying.
Iwiccaozzie 2 years ago
Why do you care if this show ends or not, if you don't like it stop watching it, the show isn't annoying you are.
SuperNikki1 2 years ago
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wow Jensen Acke is a really terrible actor. Love the show still, especially since Mark pellegrino was cast as Lucifer. Jacob FTW
cocaineuk87 2 years ago
wow i cant wait to see all the awkward moments between sam and dean lolsz
sexinay4u 2 years ago
The idea that someone who deliberately chokes someone else to make a point on power play would be proving they are NOT a monster is cracking me up. That is exactly what they would be proving to me.
But be that as it may, it is clear that noone will change anyone's mind here so I for one will just say that I'm looking forward to the new Season and yes, the tension in the relationship.
I have no problem with either brother in this clip. It's actually rather mild.
Sakurazuka1013 2 years ago 2
"And yes telling Dean who is following some bloodthirsty violent murderer instead of listening to reason that he was using him as a replacement for his dad"
Actually, he was using him as a replacement for SAM, because he couldn't talk to Sam. He even said as much. (Can't tell all this to Sammy... have to keep my game face on.) It was Dean opening up to someone else when he wouldn't open up to Sam that Sam couldn't tolerate, which is why he went for the low blow.
mara4789 2 years ago
Oh, bright. Honey. Learn to type before you pontificate. I'm not going to be bothered to sift through your kindergarten-level typing.
mara4789 2 years ago
Do you realize that you Samfans and you Deanfans sound almost interchangeable in your complaints?!? That you and accuse Sam and Dean of the same things? It's all "Sam is mean to Dean", "Dean is mean to Sam", "saint Dean" "perfect Sam". You spend all your time fighting each other and criticizing the "other" brother and the show. Are you even still enjoying the show?
Anyway, THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE CLIP. I look forward to seeing more of Sam, Dean, Cas and Bobby in S5!
hebe21 2 years ago 3
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*giggle* No, I stopped watching all eps a long time ago. I just like to rile people up. :)
It's so easy to get some to steep to personal attacks. Amuses me grandly. I'm evol that way.
starbright73 2 years ago
"Saint Dean brigade here again clearly."
Well, you didn't really think you limpdickers had the market cornered on the YouTube comments section, did you? Either stay in your little hidey-hole, or be ready for debate. Can't have it both ways.
mara4789 2 years ago
Can't help stooping to personal attacks when arguments fail? Can you? LMAO!
starbright73 2 years ago
I can help it, it's just much more fun to laugh at you out in the open than behind closed doors. :)
mara4789 2 years ago
"It's not like he hit him from nowhere like the punch in Bloodlust."
Nowhere? Sam had just told Dean that he was disrespecting the memory of their father, when Dean was the one who had respected their father all their lives and was currently being ripped apart by the weight of respecting their father's last wish. Come on, Charli! Do you really think we don't remember the episode?
mara4789 2 years ago 2
Poor Dean? the last wish ? kill his brother, he decides not to tell Sam something directly involving him.
And yes telling Dean who is following some bloodthirsty violent murderer instead of listening to reason that he was using him as a replacement for his dad was exactly right that was COMPLETELY true that's WHY Dean hit him, it hit too close to home.
Some of us do remember that episode. He was lashing out at Sam but strange how people just like to blame Sam. That's why Dean apologised.
brucewillisisaghost 2 years ago
Dean wa not innocent in this and just blaming Sam is childish.
Both made terrrible mistakes and I want a fair situation not Dean right Sam wrong because thats isnt the case.
I didnt like some of the things did but neither did I like some things Dean did . Sam might have to take the main load but it wold be lying to pretend Dean was innocent in any of this.
markie092 2 years ago 2
" a psychologist would consider as a demonstration of power in the middle of a fight"
What do you suppose that psychologist would say to the victim of said sociopathic "demonstration of power"? I have a feeling the psychologist would say, "Get the fuck out of Dodge, sweetheart, because that guy is gonna finish the job one of these days."
mara4789 2 years ago
I imagine the 'psychologist' would say what she'd have said to Sam after Dean punched him in the face and verbally lashed out at Sam iN ELAC and Bloodlust because of his own feelings of guilt, the exact same thing she'd have told Dean this past season.
Both these boys have made mistakes stop making it so ridiculously black & white that Sam is this evil person and Dean is holier than thou, they are both to blame for their behaviours last season.
brucewillisisaghost 2 years ago
A psychologist would have told Sam to go and lead his independent life ages ago. Dean is a controlling, needy, hypocritical individual with the emotional maturity of a 3 year od. he acks meta.cogintive capabilities totally. He's a textbook borderline case.
Sam demonstrated that he wasn't the monster Dean accused him of being. A monster would have killed him .
So yes, the demonstration of power is head on. You have no idea what a sociopath is, do you?
starbright73 2 years ago
According to Jared Padalecki in SPN mag, it's SAM who is "needy"! He's also controlling. Sam wanted to do everything HIS way last season. HE *had* to be the one to kill Lilith. He told himself in WTLB that HE's the strong one, HE's the one with the destiny and Dean is weak and wrong. Sam is just as hypocritical as Dean... he tried to make a deal with a CRD too, for example.
Sam could have demonstrated he wasn't a monster by NOT choking Dean and by NOT choosing to go off with a demon.
allicasi 2 years ago 12
@allicasi
The point is that both brothers have their flaws. You seem very anti-sam, but remember the differences between the deals that Sam and Dean tried, and in Deans case, did, and you will see Dean as flawed and weak. Look at the actions of Sam at the end of season four, and you will see him as arrogant and foolish.
TL;DR: Dont favor one over the other, they both suck.
Roxz80 1 year ago
Sam is apologizing, but he doesn't seem sincere. And he's apologizing for releasing Lucifer, not for the things he did to Dean, like lie, beat him, sneak out, suck blood, insult Dean and nearly killing him. For this Dean has to learn? If anyone has to learn, it should be Sam. Lesson one Sam, Dean's not your personal punching bag, he's your brother. Start treating him like one and stop expecting Dean to forgive everything you do and brush it off, like you're expecting him to do it now.
hermitme 2 years ago
Saint Dean brigade here again clearly.
Dean punched Sam and made him his scapegoat after their Dad died, getting mad and lashing out and even phsyically hitting Sam then, and they both sorted through all that. Now the pair of them including the ever unblamable Dean *eyeroll* have to work together to sort this out. Bobby was ten times better at dealing with Sam last season than Dean was.
CharliMill 2 years ago
Saint Dean? Really? The Sam fans have Sam as an innocent victim in all this. Sam does nothing wrong, never did never will. He's just a poor woobie that tries so hard, poor Sam. Mean Dean just doesn't understand his poor brother. If Dean can't be nice to Sam, then Dean should leave Sam on his own. After all, poor Sam would be better off without mean Dean there. I know I'd be better off if Dean left Sam's sorry ass behind. Bobby was ready to throw Sam to the wolves. Or did you forget WTLB?
hermitme 2 years ago
And Dean just wants to get on with working *together* to find Lucifer. Dean freely admits "WE started this." But Dean would rather focus on the big picture right now. He's responsible for more than just how SAM is feeling. He's hurt but he's swallowing his anger because he wants to work with Sam again. Dean should be allowed the time and space he needs to deal with his emotions the way that's best for him. But he wants to work with Sam and that's a positive thing for both boys.
allicasi 2 years ago 2
Amazing. Dean is the one that went all out to try to save Sam, while Sam spent the year following the advice of a demon, insulting his brother, demeaning Dean by calling him weak in front of his face and Dean is the one that never learns? Learns what? To have Sam wipe his feet on him?
hermitme 2 years ago
The fight was over and strangling someone on the ground to prove "hey, I could kill you if I want because I hold the power here" would be called sociopathic.
Obviously I don't believe that has happened, I believe Sam lost himself in a blind rage. But if he didn't, I'm not sure why people think that would be better. It's about a hundred times worse and would actually be completely damning to the character.
Sakurazuka1013 2 years ago
They both have to forgive each other.
What annoys me is that dean always avoids a sincere conversation when sam needs to apologize or to explain something about himself (since season 1dean always said its ok, it doesnt matter, im tired). Maybe dean always needs time, but that lack of communication and sincerity in their relationship, is what makes sam believe that he can talk and be honest with anyone, but dean. If dean really wants to help sam, he should start listening.
bbett23 2 years ago 2
Nobody likes to lie, but sometimes there are good reasons to lie and to develop a double life (for example, when u lie to your family bcause your family hate what u are). Nobody likes to fight, but sometimes u are SO HURT that u lose control and end up doing things u dont want to.
Dean rejects sam for what he is, but he KNOWS NOTHING about sam, bcause he always impedes sam to explain his actions, his feelings and his beliefs about what is to have demon blood in his body.
iillarii21 2 years ago 3
I like your response dude.
CharliMill 2 years ago
Dean never rejected Sam for "what" he is. Dean is wary of Sam's demon-given powers, and he's right to be. Dean loves Sam but he's gonna express his opinion about the powers that he feels are risky for Sam to use, and that's Dean's right.
Dean asked Sam to talk about it at the end of Meta, and Sam shut him down. Dean asked Sam to explain his reasons in Monster at the End of this Book, and Sam refused to talk about it. Sam could have explained, but he chose not to.
allicasi 2 years ago
I'm not arguing the fact that Dean's entitled to an opinion at all, of course he is, what I'm arguing is that Sam is 'SOOOOO MEAN' to poor innocent Dean. They both made mistakes last season and I'd like to see them work together to repair them, I understand that will take time to sort through but if one brother isn't willing to try that ruins the brotherly reconcilliation.
CharliMill 2 years ago
Just because Dean needs some TIME to work on his emotions about what has happened, doesn't mean Dean isn't willing to try. Dean's actions and desire to work with Sam to fix what they started, tells me that he is willing. Dean has his own way of dealing with things. Just because he can't talk about it right now, doesn't mean he won't ever talk. Dean just needs to "do" something. And he's trying to tell Sam that he does want them to work TOGETHER, and right NOW, that needs to be good enough.
allicasi 2 years ago 9
Well i can tell we're all starved for new episodes cause everybody analyzing the heck out of this clip. lol
Neither one of the brothers is wrong here so why the drama? Sam needed Dean to know he's sorry & Dean needs time to accept that.
but i gotta ask why do people keep saying Sam tried to kill Dean? He choked him which is bad & unacceptable Im not giving him a free pass on that but he wasnt trying kill him. No one was there to stop Sam if he was trying to kill Dean he would be dead.
reen16 2 years ago 4
I agree. It's just so sad to see them apart. Both boys made mistakes this season I just want to see them make up.
CharliMill 2 years ago 2
ditto. :)
I dont know how people can take side I feel really sympathetic for both of them.
reen16 2 years ago 4
Wow, Dean is a much better person than I would be if my brother actually tried to KILL ME. I'm not sure Sam realizes just how hurt Dean is after all the horrible things he did and said to Dean last season. Dean is just trying his best not to fight and to focus on the bigger (more important picture). He's got his walls up because that's what Dean needs to do to cope. Last time Dean opened up to Sam he got his emotions thrown back in his face with a "boo hoo" for what happened to him in hell.
allicasi 2 years ago
Something tells me you are younger than dean.
So u never in the middle of a fight have lost control and have done and said horrible things to someone u love?
Sam wasnt trying to kill dean. The same act u consider an attempt to murder dean, a psychologist would consider as a demonstration of power in the middle of a fight.
And dean was not trying to murder sam when he locked him in the panic room knowing that a treatment like that may kill him. He just did what he thought was better.
iillarii21 2 years ago 4
You couldn't be more right iillarii21. Some people are so ridiculously unfair to Sam and letting off of Dean, both boys made mistakes. I excuse neither, I just hope with time they realise they are stronger together.
CharliMill 2 years ago
Dean was on the ground, going NOWHERE and Sam went in for the kill. Just because he didn't end up killing him doesn't mean that wasn't his intent.
And if you've ever had a loved one with a drug addiction, you might understand that it's not an easy thing to deal with. Dean and Bobby did the best they could to try to help Sam detox. It wasn't done out of anger. It was done out of LOVE and concern. Can't say that Sam choking Dean was out of "love."
I'm 36 by the way.
allicasi 2 years ago
Going nowhere? They just had a knockdown fight, he could quite easily have carried that on. He was hardly attacked from nowhere. Sam hit him cause Dean looked him in the eye & told him his greatest ever fear from the one person he loved most 'that he was a monster'. It's not like he hit him from nowhere like the punch in Bloodlust.
I won't excuse Sam strangling Dean, he was power mad with blood and borderline crazy but Dean isn't without judgement in all this. He made his own mistakes thanks
CharliMill 2 years ago
Exactly! If sam wanted to kill Dean, he would be dead by now.
starbright73 2 years ago
how people can blame Dean and justify Sam, I dont' know. Sam tried to kill him! I would never forgive somethitng like that. And he lied, choosed Ruby and ignored his feelings. I feel so sad for Dean, I think he'll be a bit indifferent and cold in regard to Sam and for me he has every right to have this reaction, completely understandable, but I know that a lot people will bashing him cause he's "bad" with poor Sammy, I wanna throw up
anya7979 2 years ago
While I have to give Sam points for owning up to what he did, I guess for Dean at this point it's either ignore or let loose and say something incredibly nasty that wouldn't help. Thus, I don't blame him for ignoring.
And really, why I feel for Sam, that is called experiencing consequences for your actions. And this is like a mild breeze of that. He frankly has a lot more coming of it.
Sakurazuka1013 2 years ago
I disagree with you. Both boys made mistakes and hell yes Sam was out of order as was Dean, he called his brother a monster. They both have mistakes to make up for, backing off when they need to pull together more than ever is a RIDICULOUS suggestion to me but perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree.
CharliMill 2 years ago
For gods sake boys, Dean hon I KNOW you're feeling like you're going to have to regain trust in your brother ok but for the love of god, its the apocalypse. He's trying to start making it up to you, grow up dude.
You're brothers, you both need to remember how ridiculously important that is or i am NOT going to like you this season.
COME ON BOYS TEAM WINCHESTER ALL THE WAY.
CharliMill 2 years ago 2
I'd say Dean is allowed to talk about things in his own time. He's probably still hurt and angry (as well he should be). But just because Sam wants to talk, doesn't mean Dean is ready to. And that doesn't mean Dean needs to "grow up." He deserves to deal with things in his own way. Sam needs to learn to back off. Or does he expect Dean not to be angry with him after Sam tried to kill him?
What's important now is to look at the big picture-- the apocalypse.
allicasi 2 years ago 2
This reminds me of that girl in Atonement. You can't atone with ornate apologies. You have to do it with substance... by living better, by treating people better. And for heaven's sake, Sam tried to KILL Dean. That Dean is even in the same room with him right now ought to be more than enough to start with. Dean got mocked and degraded last season for sharing his feelings... he's not doing it again anytime soon, so move on and address this when everyone is ready to.
mara4789 2 years ago 3
Mocked and degraded? By whom?
stareacrossthisocean 2 years ago 2
Dean never learns.
EMGR46 2 years ago 3
Oh, Sammy!
stareacrossthisocean 2 years ago 4