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  • is hellfire for eternity a "just" punishment. A person could kill 100 people and eternal hell fire is a pretty bad punishment to me

  • @onlyadrenaline Of course it is! "justness" and "fairness" is a reflection of God's character and He is the one who is going to send most people to Hell. Are you trying to judge God? If so, that wouldn't make any sense. Why don't you just repent, trust in Christ and start obeying God?

  • so preety much everyone going to hell?

  • @kajenius Yes, MOST people are going to Hell, according to Jesus in Matthew 7:13-14.

  • @skellys3 But if one was to admit to their sin's and ask for forgiveness would it be granted?

  • @kajenius No, that does not meet all of the requirements. Just admitting and asking for forgiveness is NOT enough. The Bible no where says that this is enough either. You are missing two very important requirements:

    1) Repenting of sin- forsaking it, turning from it and deciding that you never want to do it again.

    2) Trust in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ- without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. Christ's sacrifice is the very grounds for every sinners possible forgiveness.

  • @skellys3 So that would mean God is a failure. Makes a whole lot of sense.

  • @SuperBspb How is "God a failure" according to what I said above?

  • I need one of these in Arabic, or at least Arabic subtitles, I'm trying to witness to a Muslim, but there is the language barrier I have to deal with.

  • @bandcreator28 That's strange. It works for me...

  • awesome!!!!

  • Good job brother... Keep preaching the gospel

  • @canalzonebratt90 Thanks!

  • Cows drink water calf drink milk, but after a few months they never drink again!!!!!'

  • those were tricky tounge twister questions lol

  • God Bless :)

  • lols i answered "milk" spell silk S I L K what the cows drink " Milk"

  • @1bugriz1 - Baby cows drink milk...lol...jk Check out this guys other videos. He is humble and Biblical. Even if you don't believe you can still learn from him. My prayers are that you come to the truth if you haven't already though. Being set free by Christ is the best thing that will ever happen to you. Take care!

  • @andrewdudek84 You're welcome...

  • Hi skellys3, thank you for responding.

    Wasn't Adams sinful death caring seed passed all the way the human line until Jesus came and died with that seed making it null that we all may now have life?

    Also, what does following Jesus the rest of their days looks like to you?

  • @andrewdudek84 No, and the Bible nowhere teaches such a thing. If you think it does, please show me where it does. Sin is not something that is "passed along" through a "seed". Sin is not "in the blood", is not "in the semen" and we are accountable for our own personal sin only. Sin is a choice to disobey God, whether in thought, word or deed.

    Following Jesus means obeying His commandments as they are found in the N.T. In fact, it means obeying all of the commands found in the N.T.

  • @skellys3 how about ROMANS 5:12-14?

    So what happens if we break the N.T commandments?

    Does Jesus need to die again for those one's?

  • @andrewdudek84 What about it? I suggest that you watch this video on that passage: /watch?v=uqA6BCayxII

    What do you mean by "we" in your question? Are you referring to Christians or non-Christians?

  • @skellys3 thank you for the video. I see you must have been asked about that verse before :) beat me on that one,.. for now :)

    For "we" lets mean Christians. But I think you answered my question in the video, by breaking some of the N.T. Commands you will be punished, but not eternally?..

  • @andrewdudek84 If a professing Christian sin, they must confess and repent of it again. If they do, they are cleansed from their sin (1 John 1:9). If they don't confess it and repent of it, then they will not be forgiven.

    Christ's sacrifice and the benefits of it are contingent upon repentance, faith and persevering in holiness until the end. If a Christian sins, they are in danger of dying and going to Hell, since if they die in sin, they have not persevered until the end.  God Bless...

  • @andrewdudek84 Here's another video you might want to watch about HOW and WHEN a Christian might "lose their salvation" - /watch?v=6xqJLHgCdWQ

  • Wasn't eating the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil that separated us from God in the first place?

    Also, didn't Jesus die already for sin? Why would people be punished after death again for adultery?

  • @andrewdudek84 No, eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was adam and eve's sin not my sin. Their sin doesn't separate me from God, only them. Physical death isn't the punishment for sin. Hell is the punishment for sin.

    Christ's sacrificial death is simply a substitute for sinners going to Hell forever.  It is only available to sinners who will repent of their sins, trust in Christ's sacrificial death and follow Jesus the rest of their days...

  • Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by Him.

  • Amen Brother! Good to see some street work. Keep it up.

  • Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    who purchased the church?= GOD,

    with who's blood was it purchased with ?= Jesus Christ

    so the scripture is saying Jesus Christ Who is God purchased the church with his own Blood, the father never shed his blood, only the son took upon himself the flesh. John 1:14,

    Jesus is God

  • At least he was a respectful muslim lol VERY RARE, most of them would of just flat out told you the Bible is corrupted i dont believe in it and jesus was a mere prophet.

  • skelly you make some good points also i wud advise u to have a lil look at the early muslims wen they used to worship 150 gods at that time there present god allah was one ov many gods who was being worshiped at the time (he was the moon god) also skelly also have a look at there mohammad who was with a 9 yr old JESUS bless you

  • hey man good job witnessing, i have used the method from way of the master too! And i got my friend to come to Christ!

  • good insight on the lawyers by muhamed. and goodjob on witnessing too

  • .

    Remember Christians, the will of God is no Catholic, Protestant,Orthodox, Penticostal, Adventist, JW, Mormon Etc. NO DIVISION, Only Christians, holy, helping and sharing instead of buying and selling.

    "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." (John 17:9-21)

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  • Sure, TRUE CHRISTIANS should be united. But, Christ never advocated unity at the cost of TRUTH. The fact is that all the "denominations" that you just mentioned disagree with each other on pretty ESSENTIAL things.

    So, who's going to give in? Who has the truth? I would never unite myself to Catholics, JW's or Mormons! That would be ungodly. Remember, Christ did not come to bring peace, but a sword. A sword that will naturally separate His followers from those who are not following Him!

  • great job and video

  • It is impossible to pay God for our sins, with any Good works or act. We are guilty of sin, and already deserve Hell. We can not save our self, and a siner can not pay for an other siner, because he or she is just as guilty as the other. God is clear in the Bible, Salvation depends only on Him alone, 100%. We are save by grace, for free, so no one can bost, or bragg. God can not allowed a siner in his presence, he is to Holly. Doing more good than bad, it's never a reason for a just God to save.

  • God tell us the truth in the Bible. It is a partial truth that a person can not pay for an other person sin because all humans have violated God's laws, and Holly standrds for salvation, and for that reason we deserve hell for eternity, Tat is why God Became a man, to go throw all our tamptations, but he never sined ones. Jesus is the only person that can pay for our sins, because he did not deserv it, and that it's not cheating, it's called Grace, and Love. God say no one can earn Heaven

  • hey skelly wheres the other parts of the video?? i cant find it

  • I deleted them because I said some things in the video that I no longer believe...

  • what did you say?

  • Stuff like, "You broke the law, Jesus paid your fine." I don't think it is that simple and the Bible doesn't communicate it in such a way...

  • Hi skellys, I enjoyed watching this and kudos on your work and zeal. For clarification ... you don't believe that Jesus died for that man's sins and that if he repents and places his faith in and follows Christ he will not be saved & forgiven?

  • That's not what I said. What I said was, "I don't think it is that simple and the Bible doesn't communicate it in such a way..." Of course Jesus died for man's sins. I just don't think that Bible says, "Your broke the law, Jesus paid your fine." Sinners don't have a fine to pay. Sinners have a sentence: HELL. Jesus didn't go to Hell for us, so He didn't serve our sentence. He was a substitute for us going to Hell. God is willing to accept His perfect sacrifice in place of us going to Hell.

  • Hi s,

    Thanks for your quick response. There isn't a thing you said I don't disagree with (nor any Bible believing Christian would for that matter except a Calvinist). I think you're getting a bit hung up on the semantics though. In Galatian's 2 Paul identifies those who break the law as "transgressors" of the law. It means the same thing. Yes our sentence is Hell but isn't the good news that Christ paid for our sins by His shed blood?

  • In other words, each sinner has two options: 1) they get what they deserve for their sins: an eternity in Hell 2) they are forgiven of their sins through the mercy of God. He treats sinners as if they hadn't sinned because of what Christ did on the cross. Christ died for the sins of all. He died to reconcile us back to God. His sacrifice is sufficient in God's eyes for us to be pardoned. Their was no "payment" made in the sense of a legal transaction though. And it wasn't an exact....

  • ...substitute. An exact substitute would be Jesus going to Hell for a million eternities (if a million sinners were to be saved). That's not what happened.  Anyway, I know this is a long response, but the atonement is not an easy thing to explain. Thanks for clarifying. God Bless...

  • We're on the same page my bro. I just view the payment as the blood that was shed and I believe you would agree. The blood is as our Lord said ... 30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, e​It is finished, and he bowed his head and f​gave up his spirit. It is finished is the greek τετέλεσμαι; ... paid in full.

  • I'm sorry, but I am going to have to disagree with you on this. Jesus is simply saying that He has finished the work that the Father gave Him while He was on earth (John 17:4). This has nothing to do with a payment He made or any such thing. Teleo is only translated in such a way ("paid in full") when it is talking about money, taxes, etc. As I said, Jesus didn't make a "payment" to anyone. No one needed a payment. He simply shed His blood for us and "bought us" with His blood.

  • Not going to argue with you but to most logical thinking people who speak 21st century English, to say "he bought us" is identical to saying "he paid for us". When I go to the store and buy something it is no different than saying I paid for something. Perhaps in your mind they mean 2 entirely different things but to most laymen it is identical. If your goal is clear communication to English speaking people you may want to avoid using confusing terms. "Bought us" or "Paid for us" is no diff.

  • Saying "he purchased us with his blood" is the same as saying that shedding His blood made it possible for us to be right with God. As I have already said though, there is no fine to be paid! We had a sentence to serve-ETERNAL HELL. Christ, therefore, ISN'T a LITERAL payment or literal substitute. Getting this wrong can lead to all kinds of false doctrines, such as-Once Saved, Always Saved, Calvinism, God's wrath poured out on Jesus, etc. I'm really not interested in discussing this anymore...

  • @skellys3 So do you mean to tell me that Jesus voluntarily gave up his blood? Theoretically speaking, IF Jesus wanted to escape and live, could he have done so? So... Did he buy us with his blood, or was his blood taken from him? Also.. if Jesus Christ IS also God, why talk to himself?

  • Of course Jesus voluntarily gave up His blood. That's what the Bible says. He could have called on Angels if He wanted to. Jesus bought us with His blood. Jesus Christ is God the Son and the Son of God the Father. Not interested in discussing the Trinity with you though...

  • @Freshbrood

    Jesus had to live a perfect sinless life to br the perfect sacrafice. His blood was taken from him but he says that no one takes his life, he lays it down to take it back up. Its like this your a criminal in Gods eyes, you broke his Law & God is so good he cant let you go. All of a sudden some1 u dont even know comes in the courtroom & pays your fine. Thats what Jesus did. You broke the Law & Jesus paid your fine. God commands men to repen (turn from sin) & trust Jesus.

  • Dang, man! You sure pulled it out real smooth. Good work.

  • yep! ching ching ching all the way to the bank! i love the evangelist policy of titheing 10% of your income to the church you attend... Islam is indeed a beautiful religion where we are encouraged to give charity where most needed, regardless of the person in need's faith :) God is Great :)

  • This guy should interogate/interview the leaders of the muslim and mormon religions. Someone who is on the same level of intellect as he. The mormon and muslim sound like they know the basics to their religion. Its like the guy twists things... I swear you sound like a lawyer... I wish I can question like you... But I dont have that gift...

  • In Islam Allah is most forgiving and most merciful, he would not kill an innocent man on the cross or rather crucify Jesus so called his begotten son to forgive all the criminals. He forgives whomever he wills. That is the last nail on the Christian coffin.

  • Hebrews 9:22 of God's Holy Word says, "Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins..."

  • skellys3

    Hebrews 9:22 of God's Holy Word says, "Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins..."

    So does it explain anything, you can sacrifice a bull or a goat in the name of God. And if you sin then God has to forgive you, who died on the cross before Jesus for the sins of those who died before him? If Jesus died for the sinners he died for everybody's even if I don't believe, he died for mine but I don't accept his death for my sin because he cried on the cross.

  • That's not the way it works. In the O.T. they did sacrifice animals, but they weren't good enough. They were just a shadow or a type of Jesus who was to come. The people in the O.T. looked ahead to Jesus, the Messiah, the people in N.T. times looked at him directly and we look back to Him in faith. Jesus' blood shed is only one of God's requirements being met. The other requirements are repentance, faith in Jesus and enduring to the end...

  • skellys3

    The problem is to accept everything from the OT or even NT, first you need to prove the Bible is the word of God, I know it is dificult to put everything in 500 characters here you can use my mail directly so that I can shoot down your canard. The name Bible means library of books. You know Jews never accepted the sacrifice crap, he never willingly died for anyone.

  • You make no sense. If you want some "proof" that the Bible is the word of God, simply go to my website via my profile and go to the Bible page. There is plenty there to chew on. Can you PROVE that the unholy koran is God's Word?

  • You are a liar. The Roman Tacitus and Josephus both write about Christ, Pontius Pilate and the Crucifixion. Your Muhammed saw an angel and the Bible says Satan is an angel of light.

  • Not that I'm Muslim, but if Satan is an angel of light how can you possibly ever determine if you saw a real angel. Shining angels appered to the shepards when Jesus was born, an angel appered to the Virgin Mary to proclaim that she was to bear Christ. How can you be certain it wasn't Satan? Thats is what your argument is.

  • Please if your gonna quote something using it context.

    "...such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light." 2 Corinthians 11:13-14

  • So you are saying that Angel Gabriel is Satan! Very bold words, we believe, as Muslims that everything is written, this one will come back to bite you in the rear.....

  • Allah forgives all sins he forgives whoever he wills except those who taking partners with him. In other words he will not for give those who worship other gods. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds in the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I shall forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with an earth full of sins and were you then to face Me, without having associated anything with Me, I shall grant you an earth full of pardon.'"

  • Only Jesus has the power to forgive sins because he is the only one who lived a sinless life. He shed his blood for you and me and it is by this act that he is the only one who has the right to forgive. Jesus said "I give my life willingly, no man takes my life from me" He then rose from the dead and lives forevermore. May his Love totally surround you and his Holy Spirit Guide you.

  • AMEN!

  • Matthew 21-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prpophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity". A Muslim submits to the will of God & follows the teachings of Jesus (pbuh).

  • Surah

    9:80

    Ask forgiveness for them (O Muhammad), or ask not forgiveness for them; though thou ask forgiveness for them seventy times Allah will not forgive them. That is because they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger.

  • Peace! As a follower of the true faith, Islam, I believe that no-one is responsible to carry the blame for my sins but myself! Make sense? If you pass an exam by cheating, it would not feel as sweet as if you actually worked hard towards passing instead.

  • I agree. No one else is responsible for my sins or the blame of them. I never said that Jesus was responsible.  I simply said that he made the way for God to forgive sinners of their sins. He was an atonement, a sacrifice, a sin-offering! The only way that sinners could be forgiven is if there is a substitute. Otherwise forgiveness would be by works. But good works will never forgive you of your sins. They will never pardon you of your crimes against a holy and just God...

  • ditto lolol

  • I failed that little mental test portion so badly. Guess I'm impressionable.

  • Amen brother

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