the oem of this gun is vfc. echo 1 never makes guns of there own and they resist to admit. echo 1 also is made up mostly of jg for the m4 m16 mp5 and there ak47 and 74s are from cyma there snipers are from well.
Most fields are 400FPS limit...Luckly i know how a gearbox works so i can change spring myself :) but does anyone have a good recommendation for what spring will give me just under 400FPS? (NOT 350 or 370 but around 380 - 390)
@FlyinMonkeysFTW I was thinking the same thing, but it gives the gun really good compression, so I decided to keep it on mine. Plus it gives it a nice sound.
I hope everyone knows by now that "JG" is an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) for "Echo 1"! OEM means that if a customer can commit himself to buying a large order, it is worth it for the OEM (in this case "JG") to accommodate a customer's wish for a slight change in parts in the product line and even have the customer's logo printed on a box or product itself. This is called "product diversification."
so you dont pay as many bad as i do. im just saying this is not a bad deal condensing this price. quality i tested and what you receive in this package.
i have an e1 and it is a decent gun for the price. sorry im not a rich boy and can drop 400 on a gun. i re bilt my e1 and it has destroyed any thing that has come my way.
I'm not rich by any means, I recieved a $75 savingsbond when I was born so now I cashed it and used it to buy candy and sell it. I had $100 in the bank from Christmas, and it took me 7 months to raise $300. I bought my KM4A1 on sale for $269.99, plus battery and charger. I worked for my gun. I'm 15 btw.
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Wow, if you're going to choose your gun based on a shity case you might as well just not play airsoft. Do some research, the KWAs have ROCK solid internals. This E1 Platinum has decent-good internals but they're not the best. Then again, this is a budget gun(I think, E1 rebrands budget JGs or VFC this time) so it doesn't need the most amazing internals.
first off, the case is actually a vfc case, so its not utter crap. from what I have seen, the internals on this new echo 1 seem very nice, and without you even seeing it, I really don't think that you should say that they are worse than kwa. the kwa probably does have better internals, but we will have to wait and see until someone other than E1 actually tests this gun. also, kwa internals have their faults too, they have an incompatible air nozzle, and self shimming gears.
the self shimming gears work but for a perfect build, they are really not the greatest choice. also, I know that kwa's
2gx guns are amazing, but earlier models did have problems with cracking gearbox shells, so I wouldn't say that they are perfect. kwa definitely has had its faults too.
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i heard this is bascially a vfc e series m4 with a echo1 body....im not suprise echo 1 rebrands they upgrade a little usally by replace the body or add a extra magazine
Jesus Christ, this music makes me want to murder small animals.
ZapHappy1 5 months ago
the oem of this gun is vfc. echo 1 never makes guns of there own and they resist to admit. echo 1 also is made up mostly of jg for the m4 m16 mp5 and there ak47 and 74s are from cyma there snipers are from well.
TheDarkSideOfJesus 6 months ago 3
@TheDarkSideOfJesus the 74's are javelins, I think.
pipebillys 6 months ago
@pipebillys ya the electric blowback models
TheDarkSideOfJesus 6 months ago
@pipebillys I'm pretty sure it's Cyma. Javelin doesn't make guns either lol. Not trying to be an ass here :)
magstrike105 4 months ago
so i have a Mtrix High Toque Motor and A M120 Spring.. will i need to put either of these in this gun?
ShwackerSwag 7 months ago
Brian people are shooting 430 out of the box not 400-405 lol
gamewiz0070 7 months ago
Most fields are 400FPS limit...Luckly i know how a gearbox works so i can change spring myself :) but does anyone have a good recommendation for what spring will give me just under 400FPS? (NOT 350 or 370 but around 380 - 390)
gamewiz0070 8 months ago
@gamewiz0070 m120 should go 380- 400. I would use m110 just to be safe...
yoyager6567 7 months ago
@gamewiz0070 M115
boredgunner 6 months ago
Would the Polycarb piston withstand a Matrix PDI M130 Spring?
Lysander528 1 year ago
@Lysander528 Yep you should be fine.
Samsterdude1 8 months ago
I can't wait to get mine. I think the internals will last a really long time. The only upgrad I'm going to do is a new barrel for supreme accuracy
owizzle55555 1 year ago
why the fuck would they use an aluminum piston head for a high speed setup? still getting this gun but thats gonna be the first to go lol.
FlyinMonkeysFTW 1 year ago
@FlyinMonkeysFTW I was thinking the same thing, but it gives the gun really good compression, so I decided to keep it on mine. Plus it gives it a nice sound.
ihatenoobsauce 1 year ago
are the internals vfc ??? they look alot like it
airsoftboy14 1 year ago
@airsoftboy14 yes this gun is a collaboration of Echo1 and VFC
hobojoeisme 1 year ago
That hierate I say the sane thing
owizzle55555 1 year ago
what internal upgrades do you need for this gun to shoot with an m150 spring?
CoolBendyStraws 1 year ago
the red wire that connects to the motor is snaped off is there any way to replace the red wire only?
redpinepro 1 year ago
This is basically a VFC M4 E-Series.
I will stress that this is NOT a clone/rebrand, but a collaboration between VFC and Echo-1.
VFC made all the parts except the receiver, shipped those parts to America, and then Echo-1 assembled it in the states.
The reason it's more expensive is because of the custom receiver, American assembly and QC, the case, 2 mags, and the rear wiring/crane stock
(no, I don't work for Echo-1, I ust want to clear this up for people)
hierate 1 year ago
I like that fuse housing.
DrewRod13 1 year ago
seems like everything on here is VFC. maybe they felt bad for echo 1 and threw their name in lol
martinairsoft123 1 year ago
Could I flag this as "Other Sexual Content" Makes sense to me.
Oxstayne 1 year ago
can the stock internal parts motor, gears and what not handle a 130 or 140 spring, im trying to make it shoot around 470 fps.
rocksolid90 1 year ago
@rocksolid90 probably not, its more of a high speed gun. you would need a new piston, gears and motor
martinairsoft123 1 year ago
can you use a faster and more torque-ey motor?
jaketownsend36 2 years ago
This is a great looking gun, e1 made a good choice to collaborate with VFC.
Heylookaneagle 2 years ago
Where is your southfield michigan store and what are the hours?
Theairsoftaustin 2 years ago
From Jawz on airsoft retreat:
I hope everyone knows by now that "JG" is an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) for "Echo 1"! OEM means that if a customer can commit himself to buying a large order, it is worth it for the OEM (in this case "JG") to accommodate a customer's wish for a slight change in parts in the product line and even have the customer's logo printed on a box or product itself. This is called "product diversification."
Heylookaneagle 2 years ago
this is not a JG rebrand fyi
TheFinalFrame 2 years ago
@TheFinalFrame I know
Heylookaneagle 2 years ago
@Heylookaneagle `Not all echo 1's. This is vfc, and they have several other rebrands, like cyma, a&k, kart, etc.
fingersticks74 1 year ago
wat type of battery?
arkantos1525 2 years ago
so you dont pay as many bad as i do. im just saying this is not a bad deal condensing this price. quality i tested and what you receive in this package.
gnarlez 2 years ago
i have an e1 and it is a decent gun for the price. sorry im not a rich boy and can drop 400 on a gun. i re bilt my e1 and it has destroyed any thing that has come my way.
gnarlez 2 years ago 2
I'm not rich by any means, I recieved a $75 savingsbond when I was born so now I cashed it and used it to buy candy and sell it. I had $100 in the bank from Christmas, and it took me 7 months to raise $300. I bought my KM4A1 on sale for $269.99, plus battery and charger. I worked for my gun. I'm 15 btw.
Christianmarquez 2 years ago
Well thats good for u but who the F*k cares..?
foxtrot92404 2 years ago
The guy I was responding to I guess :P.
Christianmarquez 2 years ago
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Christianmarquez 2 years ago
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whats beter the 2008 jg m4a1 or the echo1 ak47 CPW?
hubermsj 2 years ago
cpw is ok.the top rail moves i bit but it is i nice gun
gnarlez 2 years ago
what size rails does this gun come with??
T2bkiller 2 years ago 2
this also comes with a hard shell case. does kwa.... no it does not.
gnarlez 2 years ago 2
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Wow, if you're going to choose your gun based on a shity case you might as well just not play airsoft. Do some research, the KWAs have ROCK solid internals. This E1 Platinum has decent-good internals but they're not the best. Then again, this is a budget gun(I think, E1 rebrands budget JGs or VFC this time) so it doesn't need the most amazing internals.
Christianmarquez 2 years ago
Woah, just checked, $360 is overkill, definately not a budget gun xD. I'd still pick the KWA :P. Better and Cheaper too :P.
Christianmarquez 2 years ago
first off, the case is actually a vfc case, so its not utter crap. from what I have seen, the internals on this new echo 1 seem very nice, and without you even seeing it, I really don't think that you should say that they are worse than kwa. the kwa probably does have better internals, but we will have to wait and see until someone other than E1 actually tests this gun. also, kwa internals have their faults too, they have an incompatible air nozzle, and self shimming gears.
ctres94 2 years ago
the self shimming gears work but for a perfect build, they are really not the greatest choice. also, I know that kwa's
2gx guns are amazing, but earlier models did have problems with cracking gearbox shells, so I wouldn't say that they are perfect. kwa definitely has had its faults too.
ctres94 2 years ago 2
The KWA doesn't self-shim, the gears fit perfectly inside so no shims are needed xD.
Christianmarquez 2 years ago
wow kwa has a great m4 for 295 that blows this piece of shit out of the water
nolanls43 2 years ago
Yeah dude, I have a KWA M4 RIS, BEAST!!!!!!!!
IT blows E1 out of the water
AHaisoft 2 years ago
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i heard this is bascially a vfc e series m4 with a echo1 body....im not suprise echo 1 rebrands they upgrade a little usally by replace the body or add a extra magazine
teams2k 2 years ago
not an echo 1 body.
smacksaman 2 years ago 15
@smacksaman VFC
SickDistrictChris 3 months ago
It is a VFC with an echo1 body
AHaisoft 2 years ago
cool
extreemDHer 2 years ago 2
such an exiting new product :D
xXgoROTinAsack89Xx 2 years ago 8