You people are among the parents that have given up and it's people like you that will keep your children held back. Just accept that autism is a medical condition.
I love my autistic kid juust like the rest of those that care for their autistic child. If my daughter never "recovers" I will still love her greater than I could possibly love another being. But you are really in denial of what autism really is. I suppose that you get offended to cancer patients that want to recover too.
Where do you get that I have given up on my sons? Just because I don't spend money on snake-oil?
My sons conditions are genetic. As I wrote to you, there is no more sense in trying to rearrange their DNA, than to rearrange mine to give me blue eyes, or how about perfect vision? Yeah, why did my parents just buy me glasses, instead of curing my visual impairments? Didn't they care about me? Did they like me getting called 4-eyes? waaaah
Sorry, but autism is not like eye color. You refuse to believe that it's an "un normal" condition because you are afraid that you may be putting your child down. i get that, but denial never helps a child with any condition.
Autism is yet to be proven past theory that it's genetic. And if it is genetic, it may very well be a genetic mutation, not a family trait.
You are a very combative parent. I'm not putting your kids down. So there's no need to defend them with me.
By the way, you are the queen of assumptions. No one said anything about snake oil. I don't believe in exploiting parents of autistic children either. No one has ever sold me anything that claimed to heal my kid. I'm not like the other desperate and foolish parents that you may have met in the past. My 3 year old child is indeed recovering from autism from a combination of a better/restrictive diet, therapy and education, and love and support from people that love her. Not snake oil.
??? Have you interacted with any adult autistics? Most of them are offended by the notion of "recovery". Maybe it makes "zero difference" to you, but what you tell her about herself forms her self-esteem. If you are bound and determined to "get rid of her autism", that doesn't help her learn that it is okay to have a disability.
Several. In fact my daughter's school has over 200 autistic people, some are adults. I think you should visit a place like this where they are all there for help and get to get better.
Perhaps you should keep your own kids from the educational system that offers additional therapy for autistic children. Because according to you, it's an insult.
In addition, my daughter was not born with autism. She developed this condition after about a year and a half. Your ignorance puts your mind in a state to believe that all autistic cases are exactly like your own child's. The fact is, not every case is the same, and indeed, I WILL make sure my daughter recovers from her "medical condition" called "autism spectrum disorder"
I know very well that autism is a spectrum. I believe all of humanity is a spectrum. I just want fearful desperate people to know that a dx is not the end of the world for an individual, or her family. I choose not to discriminate against disabled people. That is not denial. It is acceptance.
I like what you have to say, Suz. I think there could be another word we could use when our children progress. Nothing wrong with helping our children to the max.
. If you knew me, you would realize that I am not using word such as recovery, nor do I wish or even am interested in normalization, its just the other way round. I am of course not talking about recovery to parents I meet. That would be dishonest and not be helpful and it would fail the point. I wish the children I meet the same I wish for my son.
ok. I hope that removing my other question and your response will help ease your mind. I was asking because i know you are in a unique position to answer, even if I don't know you well enough to have known your answer in advance.
I understand what you are all saying and I agree fundamentally with this; however, I do not agree with the view that parents wishing their children to do well implies they do not accept and love their kids as they are. I think the inappropriate use of terminology is an issue you are right, and this needs to be changed, but why get stack on this point? People are free, it's not about words, it's about how they live their life and love their kids that matters: What you do and what they do.
I never meant to say that parents wishing their children to do well implies they do not accept and love their kids as they are.
Quite the contrary!
Why get stuck on this point? Because it bothers me. I decided to put up a video about it, because for the most part, talking about this with people seeking "recovery" is ineffectual. I wanted to say it in a way that doesn't attack a specific person, and in a way that no one can delete because they disagree.
what annoys me most too- people prefer to attribute learning, developmental progress to things they've done, themselves, when its the child (still autistic), working hard -growing learning
Very good points you bring up My New Friend. I have never thought about the word "recovery" in this light, but definitely see where you are coming from. People are born the way they are for a reason, and we all should feel special the way God intended us to be. Thank you for this positive video. You are well spoken, and sounds like you are an Awesome, Supportive, and Caring Mother. Kudos to you.
Well, you know I agree with you on this subject! I think that is the biggest problem with many autism treatments (even the safest ones)...they seem to forget that you are dealing with a PERSON who doesn't just need to learn how to speak, but needs to find their passion in life and feel good about themselves and their accomplishments. Just like the rest of us.
yeah, i know, there are those of us who think this way, and those who do not. I just had to speak my mind on this.... NOT just to get all my friends to say amen. But thanks for your comment, especially since you have such a rockin' kid, and you would never take his pride or passion away from him.
You people are among the parents that have given up and it's people like you that will keep your children held back. Just accept that autism is a medical condition.
I love my autistic kid juust like the rest of those that care for their autistic child. If my daughter never "recovers" I will still love her greater than I could possibly love another being. But you are really in denial of what autism really is. I suppose that you get offended to cancer patients that want to recover too.
Lavinco 2 years ago
Where do you get that I have given up on my sons? Just because I don't spend money on snake-oil?
My sons conditions are genetic. As I wrote to you, there is no more sense in trying to rearrange their DNA, than to rearrange mine to give me blue eyes, or how about perfect vision? Yeah, why did my parents just buy me glasses, instead of curing my visual impairments? Didn't they care about me? Did they like me getting called 4-eyes? waaaah
wiscsuzski 2 years ago
Sorry, but autism is not like eye color. You refuse to believe that it's an "un normal" condition because you are afraid that you may be putting your child down. i get that, but denial never helps a child with any condition.
Autism is yet to be proven past theory that it's genetic. And if it is genetic, it may very well be a genetic mutation, not a family trait.
You are a very combative parent. I'm not putting your kids down. So there's no need to defend them with me.
Lavinco 2 years ago
By the way, you are the queen of assumptions. No one said anything about snake oil. I don't believe in exploiting parents of autistic children either. No one has ever sold me anything that claimed to heal my kid. I'm not like the other desperate and foolish parents that you may have met in the past. My 3 year old child is indeed recovering from autism from a combination of a better/restrictive diet, therapy and education, and love and support from people that love her. Not snake oil.
Lavinco 2 years ago
Your 3 year old is growing up with autism, not "recovering" from it.
wiscsuzski 2 years ago
incorrect again.
Lavinco 2 years ago
tscha. This from the boy who refused to learn that the mercury in his old thermostat was not organic, but elemental.
wiscsuzski 2 years ago
What is wrong with you? You are trying to prove something that makes zero difference either way.
Lavinco 2 years ago
??? Have you interacted with any adult autistics? Most of them are offended by the notion of "recovery". Maybe it makes "zero difference" to you, but what you tell her about herself forms her self-esteem. If you are bound and determined to "get rid of her autism", that doesn't help her learn that it is okay to have a disability.
wiscsuzski 2 years ago
Several. In fact my daughter's school has over 200 autistic people, some are adults. I think you should visit a place like this where they are all there for help and get to get better.
Perhaps you should keep your own kids from the educational system that offers additional therapy for autistic children. Because according to you, it's an insult.
Lavinco 2 years ago
In addition, my daughter was not born with autism. She developed this condition after about a year and a half. Your ignorance puts your mind in a state to believe that all autistic cases are exactly like your own child's. The fact is, not every case is the same, and indeed, I WILL make sure my daughter recovers from her "medical condition" called "autism spectrum disorder"
Lavinco 2 years ago
I know very well that autism is a spectrum. I believe all of humanity is a spectrum. I just want fearful desperate people to know that a dx is not the end of the world for an individual, or her family. I choose not to discriminate against disabled people. That is not denial. It is acceptance.
wiscsuzski 2 years ago
I see your point, Suzi. Very well taken.
Recovery means they are recovering from something, when in fact, autism is just another way of "being".
gahana108 3 years ago
I like what you have to say, Suz. I think there could be another word we could use when our children progress. Nothing wrong with helping our children to the max.
Thanks, Suz.
leoleponge 3 years ago
. If you knew me, you would realize that I am not using word such as recovery, nor do I wish or even am interested in normalization, its just the other way round. I am of course not talking about recovery to parents I meet. That would be dishonest and not be helpful and it would fail the point. I wish the children I meet the same I wish for my son.
Skymaker69 3 years ago
ok. I hope that removing my other question and your response will help ease your mind. I was asking because i know you are in a unique position to answer, even if I don't know you well enough to have known your answer in advance.
I'll delete more, if you'd prefer it.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
I understand what you are all saying and I agree fundamentally with this; however, I do not agree with the view that parents wishing their children to do well implies they do not accept and love their kids as they are. I think the inappropriate use of terminology is an issue you are right, and this needs to be changed, but why get stack on this point? People are free, it's not about words, it's about how they live their life and love their kids that matters: What you do and what they do.
Skymaker69 3 years ago
I never meant to say that parents wishing their children to do well implies they do not accept and love their kids as they are.
Quite the contrary!
Why get stuck on this point? Because it bothers me. I decided to put up a video about it, because for the most part, talking about this with people seeking "recovery" is ineffectual. I wanted to say it in a way that doesn't attack a specific person, and in a way that no one can delete because they disagree.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
Agree with all you've said. 5*
liamjakesmum 3 years ago
thanks.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
Nice video!!!! Some people think if they teach the autistic child to act normal they recovered, not true, it's called ACTING!!!!!
superautism 3 years ago
good one! thanks
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
Chase is doing great, using new words every day and communicating with his peers in ways I never thought he would...
and he's STILL AUTISTIC.
The word recovery takes everything there is to be proud of concerning autism away.
My child is the same child he was before diagnosis. He will always be that same child. The one I always knew and loved.
drmaier 3 years ago
beautiful. Thank you for commenting.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
agree 100%
what annoys me most too- people prefer to attribute learning, developmental progress to things they've done, themselves, when its the child (still autistic), working hard -growing learning
lafemdilletante 3 years ago
right. You are a very diligent mom and home educator, but I never see you taking credit for what your kids have learned.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
Well said Suz!
rainbowmummy 3 years ago
Very good points you bring up My New Friend. I have never thought about the word "recovery" in this light, but definitely see where you are coming from. People are born the way they are for a reason, and we all should feel special the way God intended us to be. Thank you for this positive video. You are well spoken, and sounds like you are an Awesome, Supportive, and Caring Mother. Kudos to you.
Dengar013 3 years ago
Well, you know I agree with you on this subject! I think that is the biggest problem with many autism treatments (even the safest ones)...they seem to forget that you are dealing with a PERSON who doesn't just need to learn how to speak, but needs to find their passion in life and feel good about themselves and their accomplishments. Just like the rest of us.
Dallasyourock 3 years ago
yeah, i know, there are those of us who think this way, and those who do not. I just had to speak my mind on this.... NOT just to get all my friends to say amen. But thanks for your comment, especially since you have such a rockin' kid, and you would never take his pride or passion away from him.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
Going into the Posautive Youtube group and its sense subgroup - makes beautiful sense to me, thank you.
dinahkcm 3 years ago
Thank you very much Dinah.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago