I like to picture the 4kids dub of one piece as an alternate reality where people suck loli pops instead of smoking and instead of being shot you are instead put into the dungeon.
I blame more Toei Animation more then I did 4 kids because they allowed these changes and ruined what one piece was about. Thank goodness they have Funimation dubbing this now.
At least they didn't change the gun into a water gun. Actually, on second thought, since 4kids is already ridiculous enough as is, that would have been hilarious.
When you work with 4Kids, never say die. Oh yeah, and while you're at it, one instance of the word die, and they will come to your house, drag you out of your bed with clubs, pitchforks, and Poorly photoshop'd Hammers, and do things to you that would make a sadomasochist squirm.
seriously so many of you so ridiculous in your view of 4kids, yes we all know they changed many things that were unnecessary or made them weird, awkward, censored blood, clipped a lot of episodes, cut a lot of parts out, but please don't tell you you actually want a Y7 rated TV show to include death and alcohol and GUNS? Almost every Y7 show has to avoid death by only implying it or by making it comical or lessen its impact somehow
It's not "messing up", it's them making it fit for 7 YR OLDs =/
@Yoshi17th One Piece is not supposed to be for 7year olds. So..if they try to make it. It is ruined. This is it. And 4kids made an especially bad effort to ruin it
I understand that. What I'm trying to say is that people should not be bashing 4kids' adaption of it, but rather WHAT TARGET AUDIENCE they were adapting it for.
In which case, most people will blame 4kids for adapting it for kids then -- However people do not seem to realize that it is ONE PIECE's fault for allowing 4kids to dub it, not 4kids' fault! If the owners of One Piece decided to let 4kids adapt it for kids, then we REALLY should be blaming the owners, not 4kids, see? :)
@Yoshi17th Hmm ive never seen that from this point of view. You might be right. But still..i think there were unnessesary edits, job done badly and other stuff. Ok turn the guns green or whatever, erase blood. But stop there. As for bellemere's death, they could have just make the gun noise and thats all. You know 4kids has allowed guns and deaths occcasionally in theyr dubs.
Yeah I do agree some of the editing is weird/dumb lol. For example taking out text simply because they do not want children to have to read, because it would make kids who can't read well feel bad...
Oh, didn't know they did! I haven't seen anything 4kids for a while. In that case yea an off screen + gun shot would have worked. Come to think of it there are other Y7 shows where there are offscreen deaths. So I guess you're right it wasn't necessary. I guess 4kids likes pointing xD
@Yoshi17th theres nothing wrong with kids whatching death scenes or guns or seeing blood. i let my little brother whatch violent animie. some contries dont censore anything out. why cant america do the same?. kids these days play violent video games and play with toy guns. its just a cartoon. i cant belive there censoring a fucking cartoon. they should leave everything uncut.
There is if the parents have a problem with it... that's why they have ratings, to help parents decide. And because TV channels need views for money, they need to please the viewers -- this includes the parents, who can control what their kids watch.
Thus, they have to keep rules sometimes such as no death, etc., or usually Y7 only, with PG and higher needing warning signs at the beginning to show that it's not a Y7 or below show.
I can't believe that 4Kids messed up with this anime even more than with Yu-Gi-Oh.
OMG I'm shocked.
They think that this is more fitting for children than death.
Especially I hate it when they just cut of the cruel past of a villain. Of course villains are bad, but knowing their past gives you at last a chance to imagine how such a wrath can be created.
If there is so much hate, for children, I think it's more scary if they are evil without a reason, like they were just killing time with it.
this is just terrible. they took out the saddness. how can they do this? how do they make the story work when they do this? when luffy beats arlong what happens. does she just forget about herr?
@Sasukechidori16PSN They made it FOR KIDS. 12 and up can just watch funimation or japanese. They made all those changes because little kids are stupid, which is why they're very impressionable.
@MrPuddingTaco Yeah but you know how 4Kids gets random at times, I literally was shocked when I heard Nojiko say that. When I saw Funimations version first, I speculated that they execute Bellemere by saying Arlong and his crew hung her from the gallows. I was extremally shocked when I found out that they edited Bellemere's grave cross into a blank tombstone.
At the time 4Kids had One Piece, my channel package didn't have Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. I watched it because it was essentially the only thing on in that timeslot. I read the manga in Shonen Jump monthly. It wasn't until years later that I saw exactly what 4Kids had done, at which point I went, "my god, what was I thinking?" I now applaud the wonderful job Funimation is doing with the show.
No. No no no no no no no no. No. This is wrong. This is not how it happened. This is not in anyway good dubbing.All this is, is an insult to one piece and all animes in general. 4kids should never have been allowed to go near one piece. Even for younger children this is just plain stupid. People should forget that this even exists and just watch either funimation or the japense dub.
Here's a teenager being nostalgic and who never watched the original or Funimation version: You know One Piece used to be the most awesome show when I was kid **Finds Funimation dub** Hey I know this episode this is where we find out about Nami's past...wait, why do these voices sound different...Wait, Arlong why are you pointing that gun at Bellemere...**Bellemere gets shot** O_____O
She limps, clutches her arm, and acts seriously hurt, even though he never touched her. Why? Because Arlong is just that badass and his mere presence causes pain!!!
@itsamatterofdog They didn't even have a party, they left as soon as they defeated Arlong and got the money back from Nezumi. Apparently, throwing parties to celebrate freedom after eight long years of oppression is considered offensive or something.
@itsamatterofdog They even cut out the episode featuring the party! They just leave straight away and two minutes later are heading to logue-I mean Roguetown as if nothing happened!
I like to picture the 4kids dub of one piece as an alternate reality where people suck loli pops instead of smoking and instead of being shot you are instead put into the dungeon.
dirkmcdirt 5 hours ago
this is like the one of the most disturbing moment in one piece.4kids just dont have any respect to art.they just care about money
hardkandy91 1 day ago
Eh, whatever.
IF YOU CANT PAY THE CASH, YOU'RE OUT WITH THE TRASH.
1337sir 6 days ago
That dub was was......One Piece of crap WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
CocaColton 6 days ago
I blame more Toei Animation more then I did 4 kids because they allowed these changes and ruined what one piece was about. Thank goodness they have Funimation dubbing this now.
Westerngamer5 1 week ago
As bad as the 4kids dub was/ still is bad now. Back than it was my childhood ^_^
Gr8estLeacy 1 week ago
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They ruined this fucking emotional scene with Nasty Music, Pointing fingers & Off-screen Deaths etc.
and, WHERE TEH FUCK IS THE SHAHAHAHAHA LAUGH????
AliceSonicGundamFan 1 week ago
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AliceSonicGundamFan 1 week ago
Bellemere still lives in that dungeon up until this day...
earearman 1 week ago
The Hell happened?? Where is the gunshot? Damn you 4kids! But is ok I rather watch the Japanese version!
MVangelmx 1 week ago
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaah, the Funimation version is sooooo much better. Although I did like Arlong's and Buggy's voice in the 4Kids version.
fattybuccha72190 1 week ago
4kids dubsted IS SHIT!!!!!!
one piece is epic,that is fucking pathetic..
sumguy47 1 week ago
wait....tehy took out the gun and the gunshot? and the crying? and the reason for nami to even get revenge....bullshit
wineandforgive 2 weeks ago
And feel free to quote me. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THERANK1231 2 weeks ago 4
....where's my brain bleach?!?!?!
ChaosTiger21 2 weeks ago
... Worst dub ever.
theweasly 3 weeks ago
4Kids dubbed One Piece?
PUT THEM IN A DUNGEON!
danluen 1 month ago 20
@danluen And banish that dungeon to the MOOOOOOON!!
TXIIILightning 2 weeks ago
in a dungeon my ass! that bitch got shot...
londonbreksa 1 month ago 10
@londonbreksa
$Kids could've at least explained why no one went to save her...
Mayeur000Donz 2 weeks ago
Bellemere just got fingerbanged.
89Dustdevil 1 month ago 21
WTF,they even cut out the crying?
hobbit4571 1 month ago 2
where is bellemere she just dissaped oh wait! she is dead!!!
mario167100 1 month ago
So wait, they just left her in the dungeon to starve after Lufy defeated Arlong?
GODDAMMIT 4KIDS
hedgehoggy147 1 month ago
W T F did 4kids do they ruin almost everything that's cool
XAkashX23 1 month ago
Arlong is a douche.
BlackMesa7 1 month ago
Wheres his dungeon at?
chilX3467 1 month ago
@chilX3467 On his ship XD
AliceSonicGundamFan 1 month ago
At least they didn't change the gun into a water gun. Actually, on second thought, since 4kids is already ridiculous enough as is, that would have been hilarious.
Zebragoombatsg 1 month ago
OMG!!! Im laughing soo hard!!
ShiroiHitomii 1 month ago
Leave it to 4Kids to ruin the most emotional sean in the seaers...
AaronsGame 1 month ago
So Bellmere simply disappears off-frame while surrounded by all these people taking naps? Gotcha.
BJtheBassist 1 month ago
I actually like Arlong's 4Kids voice.
007whitespy 1 month ago
When you work with 4Kids, never say die. Oh yeah, and while you're at it, one instance of the word die, and they will come to your house, drag you out of your bed with clubs, pitchforks, and Poorly photoshop'd Hammers, and do things to you that would make a sadomasochist squirm.
1aundulxaldin 1 month ago
@1aundulxaldin I'm assuming they put you in the dungeon? :3
hedgehoggy147 1 week ago
0:13 namis mom scratches her ass before touching nami ....... watch carefully XD
javllinRedHawk 1 month ago
@javllinRedHawk no, originally she had a horribly broken arm, the retards at 4kids couldnt even edit it out properly.... but your ways funnier xD
DBXguy 1 month ago
seriously so many of you so ridiculous in your view of 4kids, yes we all know they changed many things that were unnecessary or made them weird, awkward, censored blood, clipped a lot of episodes, cut a lot of parts out, but please don't tell you you actually want a Y7 rated TV show to include death and alcohol and GUNS? Almost every Y7 show has to avoid death by only implying it or by making it comical or lessen its impact somehow
It's not "messing up", it's them making it fit for 7 YR OLDs =/
Yoshi17th 1 month ago
@Yoshi17th One Piece is not supposed to be for 7year olds. So..if they try to make it. It is ruined. This is it. And 4kids made an especially bad effort to ruin it
KwstasMode 1 month ago
@KwstasMode
I understand that. What I'm trying to say is that people should not be bashing 4kids' adaption of it, but rather WHAT TARGET AUDIENCE they were adapting it for.
In which case, most people will blame 4kids for adapting it for kids then -- However people do not seem to realize that it is ONE PIECE's fault for allowing 4kids to dub it, not 4kids' fault! If the owners of One Piece decided to let 4kids adapt it for kids, then we REALLY should be blaming the owners, not 4kids, see? :)
Yoshi17th 1 month ago
@Yoshi17th Hmm ive never seen that from this point of view. You might be right. But still..i think there were unnessesary edits, job done badly and other stuff. Ok turn the guns green or whatever, erase blood. But stop there. As for bellemere's death, they could have just make the gun noise and thats all. You know 4kids has allowed guns and deaths occcasionally in theyr dubs.
KwstasMode 1 month ago
@KwstasMode
Yeah I do agree some of the editing is weird/dumb lol. For example taking out text simply because they do not want children to have to read, because it would make kids who can't read well feel bad...
Oh, didn't know they did! I haven't seen anything 4kids for a while. In that case yea an off screen + gun shot would have worked. Come to think of it there are other Y7 shows where there are offscreen deaths. So I guess you're right it wasn't necessary. I guess 4kids likes pointing xD
Yoshi17th 1 month ago
@Yoshi17th but this is a show that was made for teens and adults. and when we saw the subbed versions of one piece, we were really pissed.
sonicdihedgehog1 1 month ago
@sonicdihedgehog1
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Then go blame the owners of One Piece for not telling 4kids to adapt it for teen + instead of kids, or for simply finding a different dubber.
Yoshi17th 1 month ago
@Yoshi17th theres nothing wrong with kids whatching death scenes or guns or seeing blood. i let my little brother whatch violent animie. some contries dont censore anything out. why cant america do the same?. kids these days play violent video games and play with toy guns. its just a cartoon. i cant belive there censoring a fucking cartoon. they should leave everything uncut.
THEFRESHISHERE 1 month ago
@THEFRESHISHERE
There is if the parents have a problem with it... that's why they have ratings, to help parents decide. And because TV channels need views for money, they need to please the viewers -- this includes the parents, who can control what their kids watch.
Thus, they have to keep rules sometimes such as no death, etc., or usually Y7 only, with PG and higher needing warning signs at the beginning to show that it's not a Y7 or below show.
Yoshi17th 1 month ago
terrible vices
MLink96 1 month ago
arlong is a retarded smilimg bumsack freak!!!!
MrKhalil9 1 month ago
0:43 where my gun? i knew i had it some where
Ineedgames 1 month ago
@Ineedgames 4kids, where hand guns hurt for real
53Spawn 1 month ago
@53Spawn You mean invisible guns.
KingNazaru 1 month ago
@KingNazaru Look at his hand, its shaped like a lil finger gun >:[ thats what i meant
53Spawn 1 month ago
What effect did they do to make his (Arlong's) voice like that?
PTp1ranha 1 month ago
"If you can't pay the cash then you're out with the trash. And feel free to quote me...AHHHHH!"
wintersun234 2 months ago
after watching the japanese version, then the funimatiion dub, this really makes me want to cry
sickweirdo 2 months ago
I can't believe that 4Kids messed up with this anime even more than with Yu-Gi-Oh.
OMG I'm shocked.
They think that this is more fitting for children than death.
Especially I hate it when they just cut of the cruel past of a villain. Of course villains are bad, but knowing their past gives you at last a chance to imagine how such a wrath can be created.
If there is so much hate, for children, I think it's more scary if they are evil without a reason, like they were just killing time with it.
asrelle 2 months ago
4kids rly changed this scene O.O
MrKguy97 2 months ago
PUMAN!!
BlamefulEye36 2 months ago
IT BURNS MORE THAN ACID RAIN
InsaneAlterEgo 2 months ago
THIS HURTS. THIS PHYSICALLY HURTS.
Kakashisister 2 months ago
@Kakashisister looooool i agree
Hordeofthetube 2 months ago
Arlong: "Heh, my finger points!"
Subtle 'Kung Pow'-Reference FTW.
kuribayashi84 2 months ago
this is just terrible. they took out the saddness. how can they do this? how do they make the story work when they do this? when luffy beats arlong what happens. does she just forget about herr?
lpforgood 2 months ago
Dramatic finger point.
Rutawind 2 months ago
"AND FEEL FREE TO QUOTE ME!!!!!!!"
-said by the Shark-man on the 4kids dub of One Piece
jillnz45 2 months ago
i hate how they turned the gun in a hand and go to the dungeon WTF!! even kids don't like that ! >:(
trobble11 2 months ago
WTF!!!! that was supposed to be one of the most emotional scenes in one piece!!!! 4kids needs to die- oh i mean go to the dungeon.
777leighx 2 months ago
Do you people honestly think an 8 year old is going to care about or notice ANY of these flaws?
Markgangzta 2 months ago
@Markgangzta I noticed errors in cartoons when I was younger, Your not giving children enough credit friend.
AlanSmithySculptor 2 months ago
That was the worst, 4kids destroyed one piece. 1. The voices, 2. The quotes, 3. They even changed some parts in the plot. Smh
Sasukechidori16PSN 2 months ago
@Sasukechidori16PSN They made it FOR KIDS. 12 and up can just watch funimation or japanese. They made all those changes because little kids are stupid, which is why they're very impressionable.
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@MrPuddingTaco Yeah but you know how 4Kids gets random at times, I literally was shocked when I heard Nojiko say that. When I saw Funimations version first, I speculated that they execute Bellemere by saying Arlong and his crew hung her from the gallows. I was extremally shocked when I found out that they edited Bellemere's grave cross into a blank tombstone.
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VaatiTheWindDemon 2 months ago
At the time 4Kids had One Piece, my channel package didn't have Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. I watched it because it was essentially the only thing on in that timeslot. I read the manga in Shonen Jump monthly. It wasn't until years later that I saw exactly what 4Kids had done, at which point I went, "my god, what was I thinking?" I now applaud the wonderful job Funimation is doing with the show.
CaptainAshSpearow 2 months ago
No. No no no no no no no no. No. This is wrong. This is not how it happened. This is not in anyway good dubbing.All this is, is an insult to one piece and all animes in general. 4kids should never have been allowed to go near one piece. Even for younger children this is just plain stupid. People should forget that this even exists and just watch either funimation or the japense dub.
ShinobiPXO 2 months ago
Here's a teenager being nostalgic and who never watched the original or Funimation version: You know One Piece used to be the most awesome show when I was kid **Finds Funimation dub** Hey I know this episode this is where we find out about Nami's past...wait, why do these voices sound different...Wait, Arlong why are you pointing that gun at Bellemere...**Bellemere gets shot** O_____O
jtanton10 2 months ago 24
@jtanton10
Dude... that wasn't nostalgia... you just took the freaking red pill!! :D
Mayeur000Donz 2 weeks ago
@jtanton10 Thats why I thank myself for NOT watching OP when it was dubbed by 4kids back in the day xD
Arekkusu1994 1 week ago
i luv the sleeping people on the floor r they going to the dungeon as well?
windwaker0rules 3 months ago
@windwaker0rules Shh sleepy time is important. Even pirates know that.
musicmanz15 2 months ago
God Along's voice sounds AWFUL!!
konoha2life 3 months ago
I was sooo hungry that my stomach felt as though it began to eat itself.....after this scene....I lost at least half of my appetite.
TRUEZFAN 3 months ago
She limps, clutches her arm, and acts seriously hurt, even though he never touched her. Why? Because Arlong is just that badass and his mere presence causes pain!!!
Morgil27 3 months ago
@Morgil27 well, she actually gets hit and killed, but 4kids did their messy removal of gore and such, and screwed the whole thing up.
malkeyor4 3 months ago
@malkeyor4 Obviously sarcasm is not something you can grasp.
Morgil27 3 months ago
EPIC FINGER POINT OF DOOM
Shipoopiism 3 months ago 6
@Shipoopiism OBJECTION!!!
raptorhunter104 2 months ago
WHAT THE FUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
AaronsGame 3 months ago
lol at arlong pointing a finger rather then a gun (originnaly arlong shot belle mere) at 0:44
yoleeisbored 4 months ago
I... wut.
Orangepitcher03 4 months ago
When I saw the gun changed into a hand, I actually laughed out loud.
Teknoheist 4 months ago 8
@Teknoheist lmao but reading the manga it was sad to see belle mere die she did her best to support her kids
yoleeisbored 4 months ago
ahhh, no! what have 4kids done?!
0Rhias 5 months ago
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what the fuck is this is this real ?
fusiontoa18 5 months ago
After they've defeated Arlong...
Luffy: So, Nami, do ya wanna go get your mom out of prison?
Nami: Pf, no. PARTYYYY!
itsamatterofdog 5 months ago 68
@itsamatterofdog Actually surprisingly enough, th 4Kids Dub said that she die...... passed away while inside the Dungeon.
VaatiTheWindDemon 3 months ago
@VaatiTheWindDemon Yeah, uh-huh, and snakes can fly into the sun.
MrPuddingTaco 2 months ago
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@MrPuddingTaco Dude, don't be assinine, look it up or watch it, these are facts, Nojiko herself says it to Ussop.
VaatiTheWindDemon 2 months ago
@itsamatterofdog They didn't even have a party, they left as soon as they defeated Arlong and got the money back from Nezumi. Apparently, throwing parties to celebrate freedom after eight long years of oppression is considered offensive or something.
4Kids sucks so much.
SemiJuggaloNumber2 2 months ago
@itsamatterofdog
wow.....is that...is that really what happen?
XINKAI 1 month ago
@itsamatterofdog They even cut out the episode featuring the party! They just leave straight away and two minutes later are heading to logue-I mean Roguetown as if nothing happened!
BOXINGMAN127 1 month ago
NO! not the dungeon!...what dungeon? did nami ever saw her again after that incident, i mean she worked for swordfishnose guy whats his name right?
reviewmaster007 5 months ago
This scene... makes me laugh... every time!
Fortenium 7 months ago 7
AND FEEL FREE TO QUOTE ME!!!!!!!
YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
IAMFEFNIR 7 months ago 5
Well for that horrible hairstyle she really deserves dea- dungeon
efperel 9 months ago 35
Badly photoshopped finger for the win.
TianlongProductions 9 months ago 7
oh no!
a big spooky dungeon
thats worse then DEATH
vampirekitty001 9 months ago