Please be aware, after FOUR years on the hill -- the MGM bill( to make circumcision exclusivity the personal choice of the penis' owner) is before the the Joint Committee on the Judiciary to be voted up or down. It's been in the press a lot these last few months -- google it. Senate Bill 1777, or "MGM Bill"
I am glad this issue is being brought to the surface. It highlights American stupidity, this case being circumcision. We panic, believe doctors as they were Gods and several decades later, we find it was better to leave a boy uncircumcised. They used to take out your tonsils out at the drop of a hat years ago, maybe circumcision will finally go the same way.
MY goddnes its your body people. whs some doctors or even parents force you to circumsize you. Are you trully live in free country where anyone can decide freely? If someone try to elude you with hygene argument try to compare it with vagina- dirtiness and so on. Problems with foreskin can be solved by wary ways. Boys are not born prepared to intercourse or masturbation. Retractibility of foreskin is very very diferent person to person, someon at age of 2,3,4 someoneat 13,14,15.i gonna tb doctor
Guess what all us Irish men are 100% intact. Thanks Ma and Da for protecting us at the most vulnerable time in our lives. We love you a billion billion times.
It's a fucking scandal that the US still permits this barbaric act against innocent baby boys. If they were young baby girls the perpetrators would be jailed.
It is becoming clear that this taboo subject is no longer taboo. The silent majority are now vociferous and saying what many, many people know - circumcision of baby boys is a disgusting act of child abuse. And God, you can stuff your covenant up your ass.
The doctor is subversively antagonistic, which I assume is because he is cut or he has had a hand in the medical community practicing circumcision. The way he tried to reverse the comparison to FGM was annoying. He is a libertarian, so of course he jumped at the chance to say "you feel the government should involve itself?..." Well, yes,that's why the man said he'd rather have parents make good decisions without a law, but the majority are incapable of doing so in this country. They can't read.
The April 2007 Pediatric Child Health Report refers to seven other cases of serious complications that the members of the Paediatric Death Review Committee of the Office of the Chief Coroner of Ontario were aware of, though none of these cases were reported in the medical literature.
You can't take the right away from parents, but parents should be educated.
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Parents don't have the right to cut off a piece of their boy's genitals, just as parents don't have the right to cut off a piece of their girl's genitals.
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Uhh sorry to tell you but... parents do have the right to have a piece of skin cut off of their boy's penis. Oh well, circumcision is a lame thing to argue about. About a million things are more important than this topic. Cut it off... don't cut it off... whatever, if it is your kid... its your business.
So by the same argument, I suppose you think parents have the right to have female circumcision performed on their daughters. If your in-law was planning to do this to your niece, you'd be cool with it, right?
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Im not an idiot... so that makes your question rhetorical. Well, I'm going to be an idiot and answer your question... it matters what the situation is. If she is part of an old culture in some far away land... and that is what is supposed to happen, I can honestly say i would respect their culture. Yet, if they were doing it here... I would be upset becuase they are breaking the law... plain and simple. Anyway, boys and girls are different.
Boys and girls are not different that one should have rights over the other based on gender. That's just hypocrisy. Both genders have an equal right to have a whole body without society deeming which parts someone is allowed to have and amputate the rest. If a family member decided your niece was going to move and integrate to a place where female circumcision is acceptable and considered necessary, you'd be totally fine having her circumcised? Or, just as long as they weren't doing it "here"?
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If he mother and father were part of that culture, and they were moving back to their home, yes i would have no problem. You know what buddy, you win. Don't circumcise your kids... becuase thats all you have control over. I will circumcise my boys becuase i decide what is best for them, not someone with an opinion and too much time on thier hands. Just pray that i continue to have daughters.
If you're going to make the decision for your sons to amputate a part of their genitalia, you better hope as adults they won't resent you for mutilating them instead of protecting them like you were supposed to. If anything, as adults, let your sons decide whether they want to get circumcised or not. If they choose to get circumcised, you win by getting what you wanted for them. If they choose not to, they win because they didn't have this body altering decision made for them. Everyone wins.
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Ill think about it. Yet, it is likely that my sons will follow my African culture, and be circumcised. Its just how our culture is, and I have never heared any of my brothers or members of my tribe in Africa complain about it. How about this, if they don't like it, then my grandchildren won't be circumcised.
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wesdebaltz 1 year ago
Please be aware, after FOUR years on the hill -- the MGM bill( to make circumcision exclusivity the personal choice of the penis' owner) is before the the Joint Committee on the Judiciary to be voted up or down. It's been in the press a lot these last few months -- google it. Senate Bill 1777, or "MGM Bill"
mc4bbs 2 years ago
I am glad this issue is being brought to the surface. It highlights American stupidity, this case being circumcision. We panic, believe doctors as they were Gods and several decades later, we find it was better to leave a boy uncircumcised. They used to take out your tonsils out at the drop of a hat years ago, maybe circumcision will finally go the same way.
wildflowerchicago 2 years ago 2
MY goddnes its your body people. whs some doctors or even parents force you to circumsize you. Are you trully live in free country where anyone can decide freely? If someone try to elude you with hygene argument try to compare it with vagina- dirtiness and so on. Problems with foreskin can be solved by wary ways. Boys are not born prepared to intercourse or masturbation. Retractibility of foreskin is very very diferent person to person, someon at age of 2,3,4 someoneat 13,14,15.i gonna tb doctor
Cameronec 2 years ago 3
Guess what all us Irish men are 100% intact. Thanks Ma and Da for protecting us at the most vulnerable time in our lives. We love you a billion billion times.
brendubab 3 years ago 6
It's a fucking scandal that the US still permits this barbaric act against innocent baby boys. If they were young baby girls the perpetrators would be jailed.
brendubab 3 years ago 2
It is becoming clear that this taboo subject is no longer taboo. The silent majority are now vociferous and saying what many, many people know - circumcision of baby boys is a disgusting act of child abuse. And God, you can stuff your covenant up your ass.
zensho1 3 years ago 4
The Terror of the Female Circumcision in Islam
/watch?v=T3rWiKav37I
stefanie825 3 years ago
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MUHAMMAD, AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD
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stefanie825 3 years ago
The doctor is subversively antagonistic, which I assume is because he is cut or he has had a hand in the medical community practicing circumcision. The way he tried to reverse the comparison to FGM was annoying. He is a libertarian, so of course he jumped at the chance to say "you feel the government should involve itself?..." Well, yes,that's why the man said he'd rather have parents make good decisions without a law, but the majority are incapable of doing so in this country. They can't read.
ryanmczero 3 years ago 3
The April 2007 Pediatric Child Health Report refers to seven other cases of serious complications that the members of the Paediatric Death Review Committee of the Office of the Chief Coroner of Ontario were aware of, though none of these cases were reported in the medical literature.
james3d 4 years ago 4
Thursday, June 14, 2007, National Post, Don Mills, Ont., pg. A7
Week-old boy died after circumcision Ontario hospital
Bladder enlarged to seven times normal, causing septic shock
james3d 4 years ago 3
I hope this bill becomes law. The mutilation must stop
lanatur 4 years ago 8
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You can't take the right away from parents, but parents should be educated.
shadowmorman 4 years ago
You can't take the right away from parents, but parents should be educated.
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Parents don't have the right to cut off a piece of their boy's genitals, just as parents don't have the right to cut off a piece of their girl's genitals.
EscapeSociety 4 years ago 4
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Uhh sorry to tell you but... parents do have the right to have a piece of skin cut off of their boy's penis. Oh well, circumcision is a lame thing to argue about. About a million things are more important than this topic. Cut it off... don't cut it off... whatever, if it is your kid... its your business.
shadowmorman 4 years ago
So by the same argument, I suppose you think parents have the right to have female circumcision performed on their daughters. If your in-law was planning to do this to your niece, you'd be cool with it, right?
EscapeSociety 4 years ago 4
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Im not an idiot... so that makes your question rhetorical. Well, I'm going to be an idiot and answer your question... it matters what the situation is. If she is part of an old culture in some far away land... and that is what is supposed to happen, I can honestly say i would respect their culture. Yet, if they were doing it here... I would be upset becuase they are breaking the law... plain and simple. Anyway, boys and girls are different.
shadowmorman 4 years ago
Boys and girls are not different that one should have rights over the other based on gender. That's just hypocrisy. Both genders have an equal right to have a whole body without society deeming which parts someone is allowed to have and amputate the rest. If a family member decided your niece was going to move and integrate to a place where female circumcision is acceptable and considered necessary, you'd be totally fine having her circumcised? Or, just as long as they weren't doing it "here"?
EscapeSociety 4 years ago 4
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If he mother and father were part of that culture, and they were moving back to their home, yes i would have no problem. You know what buddy, you win. Don't circumcise your kids... becuase thats all you have control over. I will circumcise my boys becuase i decide what is best for them, not someone with an opinion and too much time on thier hands. Just pray that i continue to have daughters.
shadowmorman 4 years ago
If you're going to make the decision for your sons to amputate a part of their genitalia, you better hope as adults they won't resent you for mutilating them instead of protecting them like you were supposed to. If anything, as adults, let your sons decide whether they want to get circumcised or not. If they choose to get circumcised, you win by getting what you wanted for them. If they choose not to, they win because they didn't have this body altering decision made for them. Everyone wins.
EscapeSociety 4 years ago 8
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Ill think about it. Yet, it is likely that my sons will follow my African culture, and be circumcised. Its just how our culture is, and I have never heared any of my brothers or members of my tribe in Africa complain about it. How about this, if they don't like it, then my grandchildren won't be circumcised.
shadowmorman 4 years ago
Well said Mr. Antonelli. Power to the MGM bill.
james3d 4 years ago 4
Nice beginning. This HAS to stop.
farneyblakeley 5 years ago 3
I totally agree, why are females so much more special? Why should it be acceptable a males human rights violated and not a females?
JPL86 5 years ago 6