2008 - belief and trust

[ChristClubUnited]

How would you feel if the real Aruan9 was Bernard, Ann?

Would you continue to follow Desteni? If all of them had surrounded you, to manipulate you. To pretend they did not know what the truth was, when in reality they did.

[SpamAnn]

@ChristClubUnited : I dont follow desteni so really I dont care about believes and assumptions people make. i stand with desteni because I see what they do and direct themselves towards. Sometimes its better to gradually introduce truth. You gotta do whats more effective, regardless of morals.

[pboisei]

there is a really great movie you should see its called: Synecdoche New York. and American Beuaty if you have not already seen it.. seems random but they are about peoples struggles to appreciate life.

[pboisei]

there is a really great movie you should see its called: Synecdoche New York. and American Beuaty if you have not already seen it.. seems random but they are about peoples struggles to appreciate life.

[whenthecolorisfading]

Well you know what Ann, that may be true; it's hard to think life is amazing w/ all of those things happening...I have a hard time being happy sometimes, because I think of how fortunate I am to be free of these worldly issues...but they're just that-worldly issues, we didn't create a system for people to choose a wrong path in life, people chose that path for their own. So I think, as I have been like, taking on the weight of the world, that it is admirable, but DON'T forget about yourself okay

[SpamAnn]

maybe its just a candle floating ;) life is not amazing for the millions starving to death and being abused for example in the sex trade industry. As long as those things exist, life is not amazing, because its part of the system we have created.

[AruanNine]

@SpamAnn What exactly do you mean by that Ann?

[SpamAnn]

@AruanNine mean by what Aruan?

[AruanNine]

@SpamAnn Your floating candle remark Ann.

[SpamAnn]

@AruanNine that was towards a comment someone made which has been removed by him and then I deleted that so its not there anymore.

[AruanNine]

@SpamAnn Isn't it?

[scarlejr]

wow, what an intense list of comments..... Satanism, LMAO The Devil Has you Ann ;) careful....

Thanks for your videos!

[Christophe0De0Groote]

Thanks Ann !

[Energyium]

i never disconnect from the universal intelligence

we all have innate intelligence within us

that proves the existence of universal intelligence

i just observe nature

trust is the most importance expression of existence in the divinity

everything we see is a miracle

something that is a sysytem don't mean that it is bad

there are good systems too

we need to get to work and build a good sysytem

[ALPINESWATCHES]

What. is. she. talking. about?

[GodKiller7]

Ha ha ha Aruan you were afraid of being possessed - I have news for you - you are possessed. Did you think demon possession was like in the movies? Please demon possession is obsession with one believe, riddled with fear, hiding from commmon sense, distressed, pains in the body, focussed on one point, attacks on other people, need to be recognised, greed for power - sound familier?

[GodKiller7]

aruan9

It looks to me like you are obsessed with Satan. Would it be that you are so afraid of your own inner darkness that you cling to light weenie words and condem the dark? It appears that this Poolman man scared the shit out of you - what is your biggest fear that you are facing? FEAR OF DEATH, FEAR OF THE DARK, FEAR OF BEING ALONE, FEAR OF NOT BEING SPECIAL, FEAR OF ILNESS, FEAR OF YOUR OWN MIND

[StephFL07]

God bless you. I'll pray that you turn away from this foolishness and get saved by Jesus.

[SpamAnn]

lol, sorry but praying doesnt work. oh or maybe it does for you and not for millions of others. They are probably not believing enough then right? Or they deserve it? And the other believers in other religions are all wrong right? but they are doing the same as you, believing. I have been buzzy with christianity for years, also on christian message boards. I know fully what it is about.

[thelittlegoldfish]

Ann your actively seeking a spiritual activity , and you never thought these feelings are just that .or do you "desier" visual apparition ,,,give it time dear

lol

[wildchildplasma]

Take from the ether something for you and your life each day remebering that the bullies of this world arent all in that ether. so get somthing for you.

[ThreeofThree]

Hm...I think people are the most dangerous. They are not exactly predictable. ;) But I find that interesting.

[trey0007]

Also since many people will read this thread, I want to tell Marianne, thank you. Your spirit was courageous to help me break free. You are not even aware of how thankful I am for you. For all the ones who say negative things to me, I want you to know that I forgive you and I hope you forgive me. The spirit in all of us under our muck, is the same, we are love.

[jess9dob]

Thanks ann I've been feeling alot of the same things nice to here it from someone else

[dezies]

we are shaped by our thoughts ..so watch the thought and its way with care

[muso4all]

you tell them ann.

very direct

[SpamAnn]

:):) Ann is tha man. lol

[utubian83]

trust yourself. believe in yourself. your true self. when you stop and look at your true self. not the self our minds have been programmed by the systems of our world to "believe" is true. trust your true self not the self your mind presents to you because of our "desires" for money, acceptance, religion and guidance, relationshios, answers etc. we need to stop looking outward for everything when its looking inward that holds truth. thanks ann.

[SpamAnn]

Thank you to!

[trey0007]

God wants all of us to do something. Only some do and others look for a reason to do nothing. Have you found a good reason in Desteni?

[trey0007]

Ann Im not saying these things as an attack on you because I believe you have a unique gift to make change, however so far the standard of oneness that desteni is living in their application, is sitting in front of a computer all day, smoking cartons of cigarettes, criticizing everyone and doing nothing.

[DesteniProductions]

TRey

you are a hypocrite -all sex talk on chat, abusing women and alcohol aggression on forum and claiming to be bloodline illuminati--mow you belief in God -- another Illuminati scam to attack people with? What about self forgiveness and self honesty for YOU-- and using false aliases to place messages-- just stop- you are making a fool of yourself

[trey0007]

sorry if I hurt your ego. Your response shows the truth. Try to belittle me, it only defines you. Get out of your house and do something for others instead of toying around with your own ego. Your fear of action is apparent. Nice try . lol

[SpamAnn]

getting out of your house doing something is not enough.

[trey0007]

Ann you do not have to do anything you dont want to do, but in case you are driven to try something, I know you are smart enough to know the difference between real life and make believe. I have yet to find one email or video that contained enough content that can feed one starving person. I have taken a step towards service myself and I see the possibilities. All Im saying to everyone searching, is try it first... ideas mean nothing in this world only application. :P

[SpamAnn]

Trey you know there is much more to it then just go and do something. Everything starts with self. and you know and have seen how much our mind is fucking up. So you can work on yourself, and in that also move in the world by doing things. yes, only application. all depends on your starting point

[trey0007]

No Ann, I do not believe that. SELF is a Luciferian trick to get you to focus your energy on yourself and not others. You of all people should be able to have figured that out by now. Ann we have been duped, I know that now. look behind the veil and the truth is there look at the words they use and how they treat people.

[SpamAnn]

right back at ya

[LoveLightON]

They are fooling you Ann. It is Satanism. Service to self. They make you question yourself. Do not give up your soul to this.

[SpamAnn]

Questioning ourselves is EXACTLy the thing we need to do!

[LoveLightON]

Exactly...like why do you trust them? What do you know about them? Why don't you trust yourself? Service to self IS Satanism!You are their innocent!

[SpamAnn]

I dont trust anyone. I see their words, I dont look at who they are. And there words are true. The things I dont know, I just stay neutrl to.

[LoveLightON]

You trust Desteni or you wouldnt consider dropping out of college at the suggestion of those you don't even know!

[SpamAnn]

Its my own decision.

[SpamAnn]

btw , they suggested me not to quit but to walk through it. So read honestly before you say these things.

Btw: do you ever ask for assistance or suggestions to other beings?

[idavid24]

your words are contradicting. "i dont trust anyone...their words are true" they are splitting you up.

[SpamAnn]

Lol no. expeirence something for youself and thus knowing it is true, and having them write about it, it still is true. That does not mean i trust all they say. if I experience it for myself then its true in my experience.

[aruan9]

So, Ann, you have already become a second King Bernard, dedeucing that we should all experience as you do/did. Stop here and ask self: WHAT IF I DO NOT EXPERIENCE IT AS KING BERNARD DICTATES I SHOULD EXP IT?

[SpamAnn]

believe what you want.

[aruan9]

Tx, Ann, but then I will be "visited" by King Bernard in spirit, my shortcomings spread the world full, as Diavid Said, & it will be insinuated I am mad, most probably, but plain lost or doomed, whichever the self appointed king of earth, Bernard, decides on, for Bernard has become a bigger autocrat than ex Hitler, and makes me wonder if I and the world need his prescriptions based on his own, subjective guessings, dedeucements and clouding the sp issue with his satanism and World Control dream

[aruan9]

Ann, and you too have been fooling around here, whilst evading and negating the real/crux issue at stake here, so I ask:

1. Do you accept Satanism, Ann?

2. Do you support Bernard & Hitler's WORLD CONTROL tricks, as spread by The Little King and his Desteni?

[SpamAnn]

1. I dont know anything about satanism, just once read something about it on a christian message board. And I dont really cares about theories. I am just self honest in what I do.

2. bullshit

[aruan9]

Then, Ann, I suggest you read up on satanism and stop pretending you know all,but nothing of satanism and Desteni/Bernard's blatant satanism. & if y are as intelligent as y try to make out, how is it possible that y, WHO HAVE BEEN MADE TAME TO SATAN & HITLER ON THEIR FORUM, has not noticed the BLATANT WORLD CONTROL message and dream of Little King Bernard and Hitler? You, like Bernard P, are making out the partakers of YT are stupid and sheep to be blindfoldedly taken/lead..to Satan & H's dream

[bigmouthB]

But Ann y are now bullshitting. Here spreading a message that y kno all, but now suddenly y know nothing of basic satanism, nor do you WANT to know anyth of it. Then: A, are y suggesting YOU and Little King will decide what we as sheep readers may know, read, believe,swallow or gulp down? If y do not even know basics, Little Girl, how you think you can direct here, or us? Come tell us. You, like toy king B, are looking f sheep followers? Take note, no one needs yr permission t believe

[aruan9]

Yes, BiggieM, Bullshitting Ann (her word) blshits she knows nothing of satanism or Bernard's huge satanism & wants to conn y/me/us into B & Ht's satanism & world control MADNESS! And if Ann wants to play games and pretend she is B's pure white, dumb sheep, let her be it, but we readers are now sick and tired of B & A's bullshit. You know nothing, hey, so why should I know anything of yr vast publications? Y tell me. Time for games and sheep ploys are now over, as B has overstepped the mark.

[bigmouthB]

Aruan, i sitting here laughing at The Little Lady not knowing anything about satanism, not able to Google or search on the net, but wanting to sound intelligent here. My gawd, that someone can be so childish and then believe the obvious cover/excuse for the blatant satanism which she, Poolman and Desteni shares. Or, wait, come now, Blind Little Sheep Ann, can you say publicly that YOU ARE NOT A SATANIST? And the Little King, time for him to stop his hide-and-fool.  Satanist!

[aruan9]

BigM, it is called STOOGING. You catch people to GIVE YOU THEIR MIND, then y stooge them around. That is obviously why Darkie Ann is stooging us here with her satanism bullshit excuse of pretending not knowing a hoot thereof, even after MEETING ADOLF & Satan (ha-ha!!) on DP's forum . Look her nowadays wearing black, her black/dark/doom style in her vids, for ANN IS NOW A SATANIST, like Plman! Ya hit the nail on da head, Biggie. Now wath f da bugger frm Durban coming f ya one night. FY, B!

[bigmouthB]

Arn, y mean THE LADY IN BLACK, or THE BLACK LADY? The Darkie who knows nothing of the dark, who never heard the name Satan, exc when visiting a christian church, the trainee-stooger who is possessed or will be when visiting the Little King of South Africa, at the leader of the SS, the founder of the New Reichstadt, wherein Rommel will be replaced by Her Royal Highness Queen Ann. Ya know, Ar, I find NO HONESTY in this young lady when she says she knows nothing of Satan. Mindless? I wonder. Stooge

[SpamAnn]

LOL.

euhm about the wearing black... maybe you have not seen my recent videos. but I am not wearing black in them. And I am not a satanist and never was.

[aruan9]

So, Ann, what you are saying you know nothing about Satan, never heard the name, except in a christian church...which is bullshit...not even on DP forum? And be carefull, I am there too. You know Poolman is a devout satanist, but you are too scared of the twit to say it, y close yr eyes f the BLATANT SATANISM of Poolman, and y refuse to Google satanism...or, wait, you know not how...perhaps you cannot spell "Satan". Any more excuses Satanist Lady Ann? I say you are a Satanist!

[aruan9]

And more: IF YOU ARE WITH THE SECT OF SATAN, Desteni Productions, YOU ARE WITH SATANISTS!

You want to tell me you are touting a sect group, listenig to there I-AM satanism and you not know anything about Satan/satanism? You are then a DISHONEST PERSON claiming honesty. You are a fraud. And: if ya wanna be a satanist, be one. Why shy away when the money is to be counted. And more will soon be counted/weighed.... Your possession not completed, but will be! Mark my word, Young Lady.

[aruan9]

Two months or so ago some of us received vile writings (E's) from a person close to Poolman, knowing much about his doings, and in it you were dished out as having sex with, apparently in anticipation of a visit you plan to this satanic hell hole in Durban, where you will BE POSSESSED. I did not ask for these filthy letters, but where there is smoke a fire is burning.... Ya play with dirt, ya become soiled.

[aruan9]

I still have those filthy letters, Ann, and a few witnesses who also received them. I might publish it here...all of them. By the way, are you planning to visit Bernard and his team and his Dest Prod in Durban? Or may I say: are you really travelling out there to be possessed?

[aruan9]

Ann, some time ago I wrote y this. Y did not take heed: The main aim of Desteni/Col Bernard:

It is time to start looking at this:

"Development and production of artificial human companions...An economic 'godsend', which will allow someone 'power' over someone else. Polite, sophisticated, technologically feasible slavery. And the most profitable industry since TV and the computer."

All part of Satanism. Us ordinary persons call it possession. Poolman is a possessor & you to dumb to see it.

[aruan9]

I hereby challenge Bernard Poolman, of Desteni Prods, being Desteni, to say:

1. Are you a satanist, or not?

2. Do you, via yr cult/satanism, possess people?

3. Do you propose to possess Ann?

4. Have you partaken in possession before/ever?

5. Have you spiritually attacked me or any other person ever? I am Aruan, I say FY, I am not scared of you!

[BernardPoolman]

1. Desperate Donald HEaR-MAN displays all expressions of a possessed perSUN. Possessed by EGO as perSUNality-- a SHINING exAMple of HUMANITY.

2. All POSSESion is by URSELF--stop ABUSING people to FEED your eGO

3- Ann is HERE visiting-- YOU MISSED OUT

4.Stupid Question -- see number 2

5. sAruman - Your FEAR is apPARENT in your ABUSE of people as VENDETTA

[DeadGirlsDontSayNaa]

PoSSeSS Sion

SS | SS

PS

Poesi on

[DeadGirlsDontSayNaa]

Ann would make a lousy Satanist !!

[WheresMycoldBeer]

great

[BernardPoolman]

Desperate Donald of GODforum possessed by DESTENI DEMONS-- how Fitting

[Taygeta24]

wtf a? are yu a fearmonger aruen9 lol

[ambervisions]

Hi Hon! Who cares if you are wearing black! Black is just a color! It does NOT mean you are a Satanist. I know youre not a Satanist.And if Bernard is a Satanist.....he isn't openly admitting it or sharing it with you guys! Might be sharing some of the concepts and not saying what the basis is......but I know you are not a Satan worshipper. Much love to you! Di:)

[ambervisions]

Wearing black does not make one a Satanist. Aruan9......if B is into Satanism......he isnt telling those in Desteni. Ann is not knowingly a Satanist! She does not worship Satan! pls

[BernardPoolman]

Isn't Aruan9 your SOURCE of BEING LOVE?

[aruan9]

The main aim of Desteni/Col Bernard:

It is time to start looking at this:

"Development and production of artificial human companions...An economic 'godsend', which will allow someone 'power' over someone else. Polite, sophisticated, technologically feasible slavery. And the most profitable industry since TV and the computer."  All part of Satanism. Us ordinary persons call it possession.

[SpamAnn]

polite and sophisticated? lol :p I see you have not read their material with understanding.

[aruan9]

i have read their material, listened to it too, but i see by "understanding" you mean subjectively we have to accept all Bernard's bullshit and guessing...he does have strong stuff too, but tainted by his satanist and Hitler sold out approach. You mean we MUST understand what Bernard proclaims, aslo be scared of the little man?

[SpamAnn]

nope, I never just accept or believe anyone.

[idavid24]

a person of real wisdom would have the compassion to not attempt to humiliate someone EVER. are we to expect that you at desteni intend to help people unconditionally after you go spewing their faults to everyone on youtube once they make the decision to leave? where's your forgiveness? where is your sense of "oneness" as you say. exposing self is one thing, intending to make a fool out of someone is another. whatever you people are doing will hurt you in the next life. so i pray for you all.

[SpamAnn]

David to who did you say this? Because I dont understand your post.

[DesteniProductions]

Really--you live in a dreamworld

there is no wisdom--only self honesty to sort out the dishonesty within self--if you dare

[aruan9]

Desteni: Look, Barnard, if y are self honest,why hide yr motives with all this, which is but all Satanism and an idea of World control y got from the spirit of ex Hitler. Come now, B, y have had cahnces on The Tube to come honest with yr satanism fooling trick herein. Or are y wanting "the sheep" to come clean while t laugh in glee?

 Dishonest: DID Y ATTACK ME SPIRITUALLY, Bernard Poolman? Not that y got anywhere with it.

[aruan9]

Poolman's "dreamworld": you are the one living in a dream world, where y dream y can attack persons spiritually (even shoor Lenon, hey?), scare them, threaten them (always using pseudo names), abuse their belief in you and yr satanist dream. Come tell us yr "wisdom" of choosing satanism as te crux of our existence, be self honest with us, who listen and read what y publish. Or are y to shy or not ready to mae known to the world what yr aim in all this is?

[ambervisions]

HI Ann! I soooo agree with you and it's good too see you again! DI:)

[SpamAnn]

:) heeey Di!

Long time no chat :P

[jesperhultkrantz]

Hi ! Ann ;-)

[SpamAnn]

Hey Jesper boy :P:P