" in each one of us theres such a potential for good and such a potential for evil" that line sums up everything not just in the rwanda genocide but life in general.. powerful words.
what was the captains name, beacuse people dont talk about how this man saved thousands. it makes me crie that every one os trying to blame every one else, and this man saved so many people and you ass holes are tring to blame religion, politicals. its not right. im so sad that this is what is our world is. i crie, i crie.
Cpt Mbaye Diagne, a Lion who paid the ultimate price for doing what was right in the most difficult of circumstances despite being abandoned by his own organisation (UN).............thank you captain, may your soul rest in eternal peace.
How can you stand there and tell me when almost 1 million ppl die in less then 3 months with eyewitness accounts suvivor reports victims families reports Red Cross reports videos New reports that you did NOT know? Plz!!!
Everyone keeps making this atrocity a black has no rights thing. That has been played out. The truth is that the capitalist world is only concerned about greed and profiteering. No government wants to help their fellow man just because it's the right thing to do. They only get involved if they can plunder and profit no matter if it is a Black, White, Arab or Asian country. Therefore it is up to individuals outside the government and big business to generate some form of help as best we can.
@manutddjw I would rather live in a capitalist society than a Communist society. Communism is nothing but forced collectivism and absolute government control of property and peoples personal lives.
@manutddjw ..I would agree with you on that partially except that if you watch Hotel Rwanda you see the UN first taking out the white people and leaving the Tutsis to die.There was a part in this documentary where some UN officials and some journalists come upon a church where Tutsis were hiding and you see them taking the white woman into safety.I remember a Tutsi woman begging them to help her and the rest of the people hiding but they just drove off ans said they couldn't help. HOW SAD
And you see the sight of the kid.....And you think how can someone be so cruel as to hack off a little kids hand for crissake! And then you shove all those facts away and you cry. Damn this scene made me cry.
"Pretty please stop murdering your fellow man Mr. genocidal maniac barbarian"...LoL Such an effective tactic. The U.N. is only willing to devote troops to pillage and rob nations. They obviously don't give two shits about human rights at the top.
Rest in Peace Captain Mbaye (sp?), you put others lives before your own and seemed like a very brave soldier, a loss for those who had the pleasure of knowing you.
It's annoying how many people need to comment on youtube videos to voice their political or religious opinions. No one cares about your opinion!!! It's also funny how so many people try to act "smart" on here. What do you do for a living? If you have a degree (not 1 class) in humanities or something similar, well ok! But if you work at Home Depot or you do some crappy blue collar job, then STFU! LOL!
the opinions on youtube, are what make it so interesting. sometimes people just need to say something. Furthermore, one does not need a degree of any sort to have the right to voice an opinion. Lastly, we as westerners have a distinct tendency to equate "blue collar" jobs with intelligence. This is also a blatant misconception and a fallacy. And I'm fifteen.
Nothing wrong with blue collar work... but they are usually not college educated except for ones that require trade schoo, but still. I'd personally listen to someone with a masters degree in humanities VS a pipe fitter. Seems like common sense to me! Anyone can google info and stuff, but how accurate is the info they're reading? A lot of people comment based on info off of Wiki... which is a horrible source.
Wiki is the worst. true. but we differ slightly in opinion. I would rather listen to a pipe fitter than a person with a masters in humanities. There are some things no school will ever teach anyone. a pipe fitter would know a lot more on life than a masters in humanities. which is the reason for which I talk to homeless people. They are oftentimes very wise people.
I look down on laborers. I know many of them, and 99% are pretty dumb to be honest. They also are usually bitter/mean people probably because they never set any decent goals or attempted to achieve anything. They always seem to enviously talk down people who have great paying & better jobs and act like they're "tough work" work is more honorable somehow. I've done loborer style work for a few years, it was horrible. I'm glad I didn't get stuck in that career.
Also, most homeless people are homeless for a reason. Drugs or crime usually. Some might have interesting views of life, but most are probably bad people. I wouldn't get to comfy around them... out here in CA some of them will attack and try to rob you.
you generalize a lot. You're right about the homeless people. but saying that they're bad people is going a bit far. I carry a knife, so, I'm pretty safe. I know what you mean about the labourers, but at the same time, I love listening to people.
The first part of your critique is correct, but the latter is not. It is not 'leftist wimps' that are to blame. It is the fact that all of the US/Western presidents and officials are nothing but pawns to capitalism. They, regardless of their party, will always react in this way; intervene when there is profitability, and stand aside when money can not be made. Bush's admin invested millions into the corrupt Rwandan governmentin place now, not too mention the horrors of his 8 years.
Bill Clinton has blood on his hands I cannot believe this I am truly disgusted with my country, Europe too WE let the holocaust happen and now when there wasnt even a legal state we couldnt declare war to stop this human catastrophe; Bill Clinton idoit, Madiline Halfbright pre-meditated murder look at that picture bitch that IS GENOCIDE, you simpering liberals dont we see these things only happen in the face of leftist bueracracies; these arent things we discuss these are things that we do
Watched this documentary in my Life & Death Decisions class. I teared up at various points throughout the film, but I really started crying at 5:22 . The atrocities committed against the people of Rwanda on the basis of ethnic identity were horrible and the fact that the US systematically avoided labeling the 100 days of massacre as "genocide" to justify their inaction makes me furious. Such a tragedy. It's heartbreaking what evil and dehumanization on the basis of "us and them" can achieve.
No one can judge if he hasn't been there to experience. Must been enormo mind fuck, millions of decisions, thoughts, desperation mixing. The ones that were there did the best they could. Only US failed like usual. This is best most emotional documentary ever. Especially because it happend. People will never learn :(
Thank's to a brave man like Captain Mbaye Diagne ,In Senegal,and particularly Pikine where he was born few people know about what he has done in Rwanda.
In the Rwandan civil war they had already teamed up with the one-party Hutu state against the Tutsis, it wasn't in their financial interest to get in conflict with Hutu forces. Just search for ''Dozens of French leaders 'supported Rwandan genocide' claims new report'', the photo on the article says more than a thousand words.
As I said French knew it especially well since they remained an influential presence to the french-speaking Hutu people during the time of the genocide because of the many financial cooperation's they had and have had with leading Hutu figures for the last twenty years.
I don't think this is true. Remember that the Americans sent a force of 20,000 or more to Somalia in December 1992 to stop the famine that had claimed the lives of 300,000. Unfortunately this turned out to be a calamitous operation by 1994, one of the main reasons why they didn't intervene in Rwanda. But to simply dismiss the Americans and Europeans by saying that they don't value Africans as humans is a tad ignorant.
Not disagreeing that it's a tad ignorant, but I would not be too optimistic about the extent of that human value at all.
Intervention in a genocide situation is a completely different situation than intervening in a famine. And the situation in Somalia was of a completely different character than that of Rwanda in so many ways that the ''that bad = this bad'' logic as a reason to not start an intervention in Rwanda earlier was either a result of pure stupidity
(however it's so stupid I can't possibly believe leading world authorities could have seen any real connection in practical application and calculated outcome of the operations) but much more likely humanitarian intervention didn't *look* good at the time. US sent troops to Somalia to begin with because of large media coverage of the area at the time which created a wave of empathy from US citizen,
but when 18 Americans got killed it didn't ring bells with the media and general public anymore, and the US quickly withdrew after that. Yes, Europe, America and UN intelligence had far away from perfect information of the *extent* of the genocide and that played a role in the lazy acting as well, but they knew it was a genocide and they knew it was one of big proportions. France knew it especially well since they remained an influential presence to the french-speaking Hutu people--
Could go on all day, but in short they might value Africans as humans in general, but it's funny how quick that ''value'' goes away if there is seemingly the slightest to lose on it.
fuck, captain Mbaye passed away that is sad. he was a true soldier. I think the captain the strongest man in history and human kind who put his life on line. the reason why dalaire survived is because he did not want to do what the Captain was doing. May his soul rest in peace
What a Soldier. A soldier and a half. An unsung hero who just saved lives with no guns nor any weapon. He had a smile as a weapon.He died while saving others, it was worth. Respect to those UN soldiers and other western who stayed. God bless u.
There is no God. When things like this happen. That should be enough proof. In my opinion ( I'm NOT asking any one to agree with it ) anyone worth worshipping would not let something like this happen.
not necessarily, i think that's a tad narrowminded, mothball22. plenty of hutus turned on their tutsi neighbours and slaughtered them - and i'm sure many of them regulary went to church and believed in god as well.
Not at all narrow-minded. Take a look at the vids I posted from the West Bank. Narrow-minded is not a term that fits me. You and others are using Christianity and GOD as scapegoats to cover-up the collective white colonial guilt.
Sorry my friend, but go back, view history. It is what it is: Belgium setting up a false tribal distinction to divide and conquer, false tribal tensions escalate when Belgium has plundered all it can, the US Administration at the time, in response to Belgium's embarassment obstructed preventative AND retaliatory action to prevent the killing, Sec. Christopher caught off record saying, "Let them die as long as our kids don't" You proceed from a false assumption.
"God was with those dying raising them to new life because human beings apart from God commit atrocities."
Thats funny considering many of the Hutu extremists that committed these horrible acts were primarily of Catholic faith, and even some priests and church leaders participated in the genocide, your comment fails on many levels.
It might even be good for psychopaths and mass murderers to believe in God cause they veiw themselves as the righteous hands of God to kill any who do not obey.
lol, no not really, probably the last paragraph of my comment but not the first.
Many of the preists didn't do anything to stop the Interahamew from murdering the Tutsi's, so they are just as guilty as those who actually committed the atrocities.
you witness a country doing something positive then you witness the same country doing something negative yet it has nothing to do with the "country"it comes down to being human and having a right mind and common sense.
You can always tell the people who cared about what was happening because they practically burst into tears when they talk about it. As opposed to the others who dismiss it like bad dream.
Captain Mbaye Diagne RIP...I just can't believe what evil humans are capable of...we completely deserve eternal hellfire...and that is what we are going to get.
Repent and follow Christ. If not...then you will die in your sins. Christ is the only way to be forgiven. He is the ONLY way to salvation.
well you hoping something wont change the fact that he was a muslim
and your pretty much saying that he saved thousands of lifes, but because he believed that jesus was a prophet and not the gods son, he will go 2 hell...
so all the jews who believe in GOD deserved the HOLOCAUST
Explain to me where GOD or JESUS was when Dr. Josef Mengele at AUCHWITZ had 2---- 5 year old twin Jewish boys strapped to a table and cut the testicles off of one of them(let the boy bleed to death)-Explain it---he had Jewish women give birth--as soon as the baby was born--he disected the baby while it was alive---EXPLAIN THIS TO ME
will smith i'am legend: "GOD DID NOT DO THIS...WE DID THIS", peace and mercy to all who died and has plans to do this evil must not live and drink bitter water.
Real life hero. All give some, some give all. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends (or in this case, even strangers of other countries, ethnicity etc)
The logical extension of atheism is genocide or something similar. Without a higher power or moral law giver there is no ultimate right or wrong so who is to say this is wrong if there is no God? You? A government? A government is what did this. Maybe you should be come a theist.
Fallacy of appeal to consequences. "X must be true because if X wasn't true, life would be terrible." Regardless of whether or not there would be horrible or bad results to there being/not being a god is irrelevant. Reality is what it is. Consequences do not change that.
And regarding right and wrong....are you telling me that the ONLY reason you don't go around committing genocide is because religion tells you not to? Really? That's the ONLY reason?
This Rwanda issue is a good example of the foreign policies that are to come if another low-value, self-centered, arrogant elitist, hypocrit democ-rat politician gets to power.
Captain Mbaye Diagne is a true hero and a saint. May he rest in piece and God bless his family. On this upcomming 14th anniversary for the genocide I will remember his selfless acts. I intend to visit his family on my upcoming trip back to Africa in 7 years.
Things like this are started by comments like the ones you read here. We should start by practicing tolerance towards each other rather than dissing each other. I'm not christian but if being part of an organized religion makes you a better person, more power to you... Let's learn from our stupid actions and not repeat it over and over and over and over again like we are doing right now in Darfour and Tibet... Tolerance people, we need it if we are going to survive as a species.
first of all the bible has nothin to do with ppl acting evil...ppl choose to do evil...christianity teaches to love ur neighbor so if u believe christianity is the blame u have a problem
my fucking 30th something time watching this entire documentary. and each and everytime i still cry, i still get angry and always affected by it. each and everytime...rwanda is under my skin....
Just because some people were killed in a Church?? A CHURCH IS A BUILDING!! The Bible has nothing to do with the reason these people were killed!! It was the "ethnic-cleansing" ! The Bible DOES talk about these things: "The heart is decietful, above all things, and desperately wicked, who can know it?" Jer. 17:9
My, my...with all the venom, hatemongering, and ignorance, apparently it is not only Christians who are evil. Perhaps you should try going to church, reading a Bible, and praying before you condemn a religion. Christians can certainly be evil, they are human. Christianity is not evil. Neither is the Bible. To state that is intolerant and hateful. By the way, the Bible was written by people from Palestine/Israel, not Europe. It was only interpreted into English, etc. by Europeans.
This discussion has obviously deteriated. shame, as a student who has spent so much time researching Rwanda it is sad to see how completely misunderstood and mistreated this subject is, despite the documentary being in fact very good, and horrific in it's accuracy.
Thank You also from me, i totally agree with SugarShandy, had the same feelings (also only watch in polish news that hutu fights with tootsie and killing each other), shame that after all of that Civilized World is not dooing much for help simular situation witch is happening right now in Sudan (darfur)
thank you soo much for posting this...while this was happening I was partying it up as a senior in high school, remembered seeing sprinklings about this on the evening news, but never really knew what happened...as an adult I watched Hotel Ruwanda with my mouth wide open...thank you for posting this and showing me the WHOLE truth...I am ashamed of my country...greed is the only thing that moves them
The UN asked for 6,000 trrops and had difficulty finding anyone. Israel and Cambodia, both with populations which have experienced/suffered genocide, should have ponied up 50,000 troops to send. Never again!
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke (1729-1979)
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it" Martin Luther King Jr.
its fine...I KNow my previous messages showed alot of anger but I was reading on the situation of sudan when i read your comment and just couldnt beleive I was reading such things... but im very happy that you have the desire to know more about my country than just its negative attention because im getting tired of hearing people have so much pity for all those war children that they see on t.v but at the end of the day they just go back to there lives and act as if they never saw anything
First off, I am an American. Secondly, I am more ashamed of the idiotic government of mine who couldn't define "genocide" because it wasn't in their "best interest".
The saddest thing was, Rwanda was NOT Mogadishu. Soldiers' bodies were NOT being drug through the streets. ALL IT TOOK WAS THE PRESENCE OF UN OR "WHITE" TROOPS. THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE GUNS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!
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manny90011 2 months ago in playlist Documentary - Ghosts of Rwanda & Related Clips
" in each one of us theres such a potential for good and such a potential for evil" that line sums up everything not just in the rwanda genocide but life in general.. powerful words.
kaaylo1 2 months ago
Wow... It's difficult to look... difficult to believe it is real....
candlumland2010 4 months ago
Captain Diagne, you are in HEAVEN. May your soul rest in perfect peace and may God bless your entire family.
portloko 5 months ago 6
God will have a beautiful place for you by saving peoples ! Rest in peace...
Kaloserge 6 months ago 4
what was the captains name, beacuse people dont talk about how this man saved thousands. it makes me crie that every one os trying to blame every one else, and this man saved so many people and you ass holes are tring to blame religion, politicals. its not right. im so sad that this is what is our world is. i crie, i crie.
rockingred141 8 months ago 4
Rest in Peace Captain Mbaye, you are a true hero
MichaelCasanovaMusic 8 months ago 10
Cpt Mbaye Diagne, a Lion who paid the ultimate price for doing what was right in the most difficult of circumstances despite being abandoned by his own organisation (UN).............thank you captain, may your soul rest in eternal peace.
bakamesungura 9 months ago 6
you are a hero Captain Mbaye !! I salute and all Rwandians salute you!!
byir0070 9 months ago 4
How can you stand there and tell me when almost 1 million ppl die in less then 3 months with eyewitness accounts suvivor reports victims families reports Red Cross reports videos New reports that you did NOT know? Plz!!!
ohwell94 9 months ago
God Bless Captain Mbaye!
King42089 10 months ago 6
GOD BLESS YOU CAPTAIN!!! YOU WILL REST IN PEACE BECAUSE YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!!
africanchicaful 10 months ago 9
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yah yah bra bra bra, just go get a job everybody. have a good week!!!
1722tasmania 11 months ago
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1722tasmania 11 months ago
Captain Mbaye Diagn went straight to heaven!!!!
DerBabic 1 year ago 6
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Zeruel3 1 year ago
They must've had to get a second stretcher for Digane's immense balls
Zeruel3 1 year ago
@Zeruel3 that's crass
backofthegibbin 11 months ago
@backofthegibbin It's a fitting tribute, the man did more to save lives in Rwanda than every security council member nation combined
Zeruel3 11 months ago
Shame on u UN
sajeewashaluka 1 year ago
@sajeewashaluka you too.
1722tasmania 11 months ago
Captain Mbaye Diagn is a Hero .. a true one ,
so rare to find ones like him these days
Purpleheart121 1 year ago 2
Everyone keeps making this atrocity a black has no rights thing. That has been played out. The truth is that the capitalist world is only concerned about greed and profiteering. No government wants to help their fellow man just because it's the right thing to do. They only get involved if they can plunder and profit no matter if it is a Black, White, Arab or Asian country. Therefore it is up to individuals outside the government and big business to generate some form of help as best we can.
manutddjw 1 year ago
@manutddjw I would rather live in a capitalist society than a Communist society. Communism is nothing but forced collectivism and absolute government control of property and peoples personal lives.
LordMalice6d9 1 year ago
@manutddjw ..I would agree with you on that partially except that if you watch Hotel Rwanda you see the UN first taking out the white people and leaving the Tutsis to die.There was a part in this documentary where some UN officials and some journalists come upon a church where Tutsis were hiding and you see them taking the white woman into safety.I remember a Tutsi woman begging them to help her and the rest of the people hiding but they just drove off ans said they couldn't help. HOW SAD
marmackk 11 months ago
The U.N. apparently loves their genocide trials. But they can't define the term to their satisfaction to stop it while it occurs.
hollywoodwerewolf 1 year ago
And you see the sight of the kid.....And you think how can someone be so cruel as to hack off a little kids hand for crissake! And then you shove all those facts away and you cry. Damn this scene made me cry.
shouavaj12 1 year ago 2
Captain Mbaye Diagne was not only a great person but a true muslim..
MaheenNajeeb 1 year ago 2
"Pretty please stop murdering your fellow man Mr. genocidal maniac barbarian"...LoL Such an effective tactic. The U.N. is only willing to devote troops to pillage and rob nations. They obviously don't give two shits about human rights at the top.
AllahConsciousness 1 year ago 2
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gangstercrab 1 year ago
These videos of Ghosts Of Rwanda is really very good.
chaifong9 1 year ago
this firl that survived...God is great. Wish I could do anything to help her. Where is she now?
vitalice1 1 year ago
scene this documentary most probably 20something times...and it always affects me the same way when i first saw it. so powerful.
elsoda 1 year ago
Rest In Peace.
Verbinguden 1 year ago
R.I.P. Cpt. Mbaye Diagne you were a very brave man <3
Senka73 1 year ago 5
there is such a potential for good and there is such a potential for bad
StacyOnt 1 year ago
thank you so much for adding this doc. Very insightful and thought provoking.
Definately a failure of humanity.
nikki
peace
volleygoddess89 1 year ago 2
Captain Mbaye, may you rest in perfect peace.. Very few people like him exist on this planet, true hero
shadgear 1 year ago
Rest in Peace Captain Mbaye (sp?), you put others lives before your own and seemed like a very brave soldier, a loss for those who had the pleasure of knowing you.
asstomouth1000 2 years ago 5
I respect the Seventh Day Adventist for one reason...ADRA They did shit in rwanda and they are doing their job right now in haiti.
TheOnlyLoneSolja 2 years ago
im not into religion but 8:00+ is amazing. so touching lol
alexaislikesocool 2 years ago 3
Does anybody think that maybe the sounds they heard in the church was that girls from earlier.
ThinkCreativeTv 2 years ago
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Wow, what a horrible event. It's sad how many genocides occur on this planet.
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littlenickyn 2 years ago
It's annoying how many people need to comment on youtube videos to voice their political or religious opinions. No one cares about your opinion!!! It's also funny how so many people try to act "smart" on here. What do you do for a living? If you have a degree (not 1 class) in humanities or something similar, well ok! But if you work at Home Depot or you do some crappy blue collar job, then STFU! LOL!
Just enjoy this doc and post related comments.
littlenickyn 2 years ago
the opinions on youtube, are what make it so interesting. sometimes people just need to say something. Furthermore, one does not need a degree of any sort to have the right to voice an opinion. Lastly, we as westerners have a distinct tendency to equate "blue collar" jobs with intelligence. This is also a blatant misconception and a fallacy. And I'm fifteen.
Snogrrrl 2 years ago
Nothing wrong with blue collar work... but they are usually not college educated except for ones that require trade schoo, but still. I'd personally listen to someone with a masters degree in humanities VS a pipe fitter. Seems like common sense to me! Anyone can google info and stuff, but how accurate is the info they're reading? A lot of people comment based on info off of Wiki... which is a horrible source.
littlenickyn 2 years ago
Wiki is the worst. true. but we differ slightly in opinion. I would rather listen to a pipe fitter than a person with a masters in humanities. There are some things no school will ever teach anyone. a pipe fitter would know a lot more on life than a masters in humanities. which is the reason for which I talk to homeless people. They are oftentimes very wise people.
Snogrrrl 2 years ago 3
I look down on laborers. I know many of them, and 99% are pretty dumb to be honest. They also are usually bitter/mean people probably because they never set any decent goals or attempted to achieve anything. They always seem to enviously talk down people who have great paying & better jobs and act like they're "tough work" work is more honorable somehow. I've done loborer style work for a few years, it was horrible. I'm glad I didn't get stuck in that career.
littlenickyn 2 years ago
Also, most homeless people are homeless for a reason. Drugs or crime usually. Some might have interesting views of life, but most are probably bad people. I wouldn't get to comfy around them... out here in CA some of them will attack and try to rob you.
littlenickyn 2 years ago
you generalize a lot. You're right about the homeless people. but saying that they're bad people is going a bit far. I carry a knife, so, I'm pretty safe. I know what you mean about the labourers, but at the same time, I love listening to people.
Snogrrrl 2 years ago
well said
smooth1operator 1 year ago
dfladger:
The first part of your critique is correct, but the latter is not. It is not 'leftist wimps' that are to blame. It is the fact that all of the US/Western presidents and officials are nothing but pawns to capitalism. They, regardless of their party, will always react in this way; intervene when there is profitability, and stand aside when money can not be made. Bush's admin invested millions into the corrupt Rwandan governmentin place now, not too mention the horrors of his 8 years.
FrankyTheFister 2 years ago
Bill Clinton has blood on his hands I cannot believe this I am truly disgusted with my country, Europe too WE let the holocaust happen and now when there wasnt even a legal state we couldnt declare war to stop this human catastrophe; Bill Clinton idoit, Madiline Halfbright pre-meditated murder look at that picture bitch that IS GENOCIDE, you simpering liberals dont we see these things only happen in the face of leftist bueracracies; these arent things we discuss these are things that we do
dfladger 2 years ago
Watched this documentary in my Life & Death Decisions class. I teared up at various points throughout the film, but I really started crying at 5:22 . The atrocities committed against the people of Rwanda on the basis of ethnic identity were horrible and the fact that the US systematically avoided labeling the 100 days of massacre as "genocide" to justify their inaction makes me furious. Such a tragedy. It's heartbreaking what evil and dehumanization on the basis of "us and them" can achieve.
stylejunkiex 2 years ago
UT? Sheldon Ekland-Olson?
iHateSally 2 years ago
Haha, yes. Really great class, I've enjoyed this semester immensely. :)
stylejunkiex 2 years ago
hahah that's cool. the professor is awesome. you ready for the test?
iHateSally 2 years ago
Noooope. Studying right now. That extra credit is sounding pretty good right about now.
stylejunkiex 2 years ago
haha well good luck
iHateSally 2 years ago
as nick cage said in the movie lord of war, "evil prevails when good men fail to act. what they need to say, is that evil prevails"
sports89man7 2 years ago 3
rubbish film, rubbish actor but very very true statement
crazypartyman1 2 years ago
No one can judge if he hasn't been there to experience. Must been enormo mind fuck, millions of decisions, thoughts, desperation mixing. The ones that were there did the best they could. Only US failed like usual. This is best most emotional documentary ever. Especially because it happend. People will never learn :(
royalsteven 2 years ago
Thank's to a brave man like Captain Mbaye Diagne ,In Senegal,and particularly Pikine where he was born few people know about what he has done in Rwanda.
moussa252 2 years ago 4
No one deserves to die
Black, White, Latin, Asian of any religion
G1tt7 2 years ago 55
@G1tt7 We're forgetting about the rapists and murderers that carried out the genocide....
LokitheCajun 5 months ago
/watch?v=g6m7UKQ3mjY
TheDentry 2 years ago
In the Rwandan civil war they had already teamed up with the one-party Hutu state against the Tutsis, it wasn't in their financial interest to get in conflict with Hutu forces. Just search for ''Dozens of French leaders 'supported Rwandan genocide' claims new report'', the photo on the article says more than a thousand words.
SwedxSimon02 2 years ago
As I said French knew it especially well since they remained an influential presence to the french-speaking Hutu people during the time of the genocide because of the many financial cooperation's they had and have had with leading Hutu figures for the last twenty years.
SwedxSimon02 2 years ago
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I wonder why black people kill black people and still blame it on whites!!!
How can someone of another race convince me to kill my own brother?
When white people kill white people, do they ever blame it on black people?
And all those fuckin african dictators with Swiss bank accounts, ever heard of a european dictator with an african bank account?
Africans should know that the rest of de world doesn't care. Africa should start loving and caring for its own people.
JustinNLD 2 years ago
the problem is americans nd europeans dont look at africans as humans.
amolsagar 2 years ago
I don't think this is true. Remember that the Americans sent a force of 20,000 or more to Somalia in December 1992 to stop the famine that had claimed the lives of 300,000. Unfortunately this turned out to be a calamitous operation by 1994, one of the main reasons why they didn't intervene in Rwanda. But to simply dismiss the Americans and Europeans by saying that they don't value Africans as humans is a tad ignorant.
willum69 2 years ago 4
Not disagreeing that it's a tad ignorant, but I would not be too optimistic about the extent of that human value at all.
Intervention in a genocide situation is a completely different situation than intervening in a famine. And the situation in Somalia was of a completely different character than that of Rwanda in so many ways that the ''that bad = this bad'' logic as a reason to not start an intervention in Rwanda earlier was either a result of pure stupidity
SwedxSimon02 2 years ago
(however it's so stupid I can't possibly believe leading world authorities could have seen any real connection in practical application and calculated outcome of the operations) but much more likely humanitarian intervention didn't *look* good at the time. US sent troops to Somalia to begin with because of large media coverage of the area at the time which created a wave of empathy from US citizen,
SwedxSimon02 2 years ago
but when 18 Americans got killed it didn't ring bells with the media and general public anymore, and the US quickly withdrew after that. Yes, Europe, America and UN intelligence had far away from perfect information of the *extent* of the genocide and that played a role in the lazy acting as well, but they knew it was a genocide and they knew it was one of big proportions. France knew it especially well since they remained an influential presence to the french-speaking Hutu people--
SwedxSimon02 2 years ago
Could go on all day, but in short they might value Africans as humans in general, but it's funny how quick that ''value'' goes away if there is seemingly the slightest to lose on it.
SwedxSimon02 2 years ago
fuck, captain Mbaye passed away that is sad. he was a true soldier. I think the captain the strongest man in history and human kind who put his life on line. the reason why dalaire survived is because he did not want to do what the Captain was doing. May his soul rest in peace
coolerfive 2 years ago 5
What a Soldier. A soldier and a half. An unsung hero who just saved lives with no guns nor any weapon. He had a smile as a weapon.He died while saving others, it was worth. Respect to those UN soldiers and other western who stayed. God bless u.
engineer14 2 years ago 7
WHERE IS GOD
standfield30 3 years ago
There is no God. When things like this happen. That should be enough proof. In my opinion ( I'm NOT asking any one to agree with it ) anyone worth worshipping would not let something like this happen.
CuteCanadian456 2 years ago
you're completely wrong. This event was proof that people without God do horrific things.
mothball22 2 years ago
not necessarily, i think that's a tad narrowminded, mothball22. plenty of hutus turned on their tutsi neighbours and slaughtered them - and i'm sure many of them regulary went to church and believed in god as well.
whateevs 2 years ago
Not at all narrow-minded. Take a look at the vids I posted from the West Bank. Narrow-minded is not a term that fits me. You and others are using Christianity and GOD as scapegoats to cover-up the collective white colonial guilt.
mothball22 2 years ago
hes not completely wrong at all
TylerJ33 2 years ago
yep he is and it's to protect our white guilt from being revealed.
mothball22 2 years ago
umm no.. not it is not
TylerJ33 2 years ago
Sorry my friend, but go back, view history. It is what it is: Belgium setting up a false tribal distinction to divide and conquer, false tribal tensions escalate when Belgium has plundered all it can, the US Administration at the time, in response to Belgium's embarassment obstructed preventative AND retaliatory action to prevent the killing, Sec. Christopher caught off record saying, "Let them die as long as our kids don't" You proceed from a false assumption.
mothball22 2 years ago 15
the division was never created but has always existed, its co-existent that is the problem
LUVFAMILIA 2 years ago
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Yo mothball: when was Sec. Christopher caught saying this? I've looked it up but I haven't found any such thing. You're either lying or a moron.
June28July 6 months ago
God was with those dying raising them to new life because human beings apart from God commit atrocities.
mothball22 2 years ago 2
"God was with those dying raising them to new life because human beings apart from God commit atrocities."
Thats funny considering many of the Hutu extremists that committed these horrible acts were primarily of Catholic faith, and even some priests and church leaders participated in the genocide, your comment fails on many levels.
It might even be good for psychopaths and mass murderers to believe in God cause they veiw themselves as the righteous hands of God to kill any who do not obey.
CommanderSavage 2 years ago
wow, separation from the facts on your part. Too bad, but so normal in those that minimize genocide.
mothball22 2 years ago
lol, no not really, probably the last paragraph of my comment but not the first.
Many of the preists didn't do anything to stop the Interahamew from murdering the Tutsi's, so they are just as guilty as those who actually committed the atrocities.
CommanderSavage 2 years ago
you witness a country doing something positive then you witness the same country doing something negative yet it has nothing to do with the "country"it comes down to being human and having a right mind and common sense.
srry for my bad english
aaahhhhaaaahhhh 3 years ago
You can always tell the people who cared about what was happening because they practically burst into tears when they talk about it. As opposed to the others who dismiss it like bad dream.
deforrestation 3 years ago 2
Nice word for Mr. Wilkins...good jod ..may God bless you..and the other good Samaritans who helped Rwanda people.
SouthKorea83 3 years ago
Captain Mbaye Diagne RIP...I just can't believe what evil humans are capable of...we completely deserve eternal hellfire...and that is what we are going to get.
Repent and follow Christ. If not...then you will die in your sins. Christ is the only way to be forgiven. He is the ONLY way to salvation.
mujiel 3 years ago
Captain Mbaye Diagne was a muslim.. so he went to hell?
unknowngiver 3 years ago
Anybody who dies saving life will never go to hell,it's sad that you think that muslims go to hell.
Hell is a place for evil doers and muslims,and non muslims can be evil doers too.
moussa252 2 years ago 3
Captain Mbaye Diagne A True Shahid!!!! May Allah bless his sole Ameen
abu229 3 years ago
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wtf are u talking about muslim ! they where not muslim u idiot !!
isa44954801 3 years ago
Captain Mbaye Diagne was a muslim
unknowngiver 3 years ago
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I hope he wasn't...I'll assume he was a Christian.
But you're right. Only people who believe in Jesus are made right with God.
If you think thats unfair...I can't change it. Thats how God chose to save us.
mujiel 3 years ago
well you hoping something wont change the fact that he was a muslim
and your pretty much saying that he saved thousands of lifes, but because he believed that jesus was a prophet and not the gods son, he will go 2 hell...
unknowngiver 3 years ago
Yah....Christianity affirms that Christ is the only way. Jesus said so himself.
So yah, a muslim who helps many still has his sin on him and must be punished.
mujiel 3 years ago
lol....okay there buddy
unknowngiver 3 years ago
Hey...the bible says so, and we Christians see the bible as the truth and God's word.
I don't pick and choose what to believe in it. I believe the whole thing and the bible says that Jesus is the only way.
I won't change my belief on that.
mujiel 3 years ago
jesus is the only way of wat?
walkdeep 3 years ago
Believing in Jesus Christ is the only way a human will see heaven.
Jesus said "No man comes to the father but through me."
You may think that this is not true or unfair...but God doesn't need our approval over the plan he has made.
Repent and believe in Christ. Trust me! Life feels so much better with the assurance and hope that we get.
mujiel 3 years ago
So all those who lived before jesus was born are in hell right ???
klaudio73 2 years ago
so all the jews who believe in GOD deserved the HOLOCAUST
Explain to me where GOD or JESUS was when Dr. Josef Mengele at AUCHWITZ had 2---- 5 year old twin Jewish boys strapped to a table and cut the testicles off of one of them(let the boy bleed to death)-Explain it---he had Jewish women give birth--as soon as the baby was born--he disected the baby while it was alive---EXPLAIN THIS TO ME
vivecavh 3 years ago
What are talking about...I said that the only way a soul can be saved is if they accept Christ as lord and repent.
I don't believe the Jews deserved the holocaust.....I don't know WHERE you came up with that.
That doctor may have believed in Jesus...but he was by no means a true Christian if he did those awful things...
Anybody can say they are a Christian....whether their actions prove it or not is another thing...
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7antiheld7 3 years ago
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@mujiel You are naive, brainwashed and mistaken.
7antiheld7 3 years ago
People always blame God for humanity's evil....
God sees it all and everyone will be judgded...including that doctor, who will recieve eternal punishment for his sin.
If God wanted to stop it then, he could have....but either way....he is going to judge all for their evil.
mujiel 3 years ago
Long live the memory of Captain Mbaye.
He was a true muslim, he shames these savages running around in the mountain calling themselves the mujahideen.
simply2ghetto 3 years ago
My God massacre in the church? I just couldnt believe my eyes?
rizkibalki 3 years ago 3
will smith i'am legend: "GOD DID NOT DO THIS...WE DID THIS", peace and mercy to all who died and has plans to do this evil must not live and drink bitter water.
renguillarte 3 years ago
Captain Mbaye Diagne. RIP
Real life hero. All give some, some give all. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends (or in this case, even strangers of other countries, ethnicity etc)
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cobenobo 3 years ago
This Rwandan issue tests the faith of even the most devote christian... why dear god why???
fully1975 3 years ago 4
Many rwandans became atheists after the genocide. So should you.
Kadrik73 3 years ago
I guess you missed the whole sarcasm in my comment:)
fully1975 3 years ago
The logical extension of atheism is genocide or something similar. Without a higher power or moral law giver there is no ultimate right or wrong so who is to say this is wrong if there is no God? You? A government? A government is what did this. Maybe you should be come a theist.
Poneutria 3 years ago
Fallacy of appeal to consequences. "X must be true because if X wasn't true, life would be terrible." Regardless of whether or not there would be horrible or bad results to there being/not being a god is irrelevant. Reality is what it is. Consequences do not change that.
And regarding right and wrong....are you telling me that the ONLY reason you don't go around committing genocide is because religion tells you not to? Really? That's the ONLY reason?
digitalcrypt 3 years ago
This Rwanda issue is a good example of the foreign policies that are to come if another low-value, self-centered, arrogant elitist, hypocrit democ-rat politician gets to power.
They are as false as CNN!
fefo33065 3 years ago
Captain Mbaye Diagne is a true hero and a saint. May he rest in piece and God bless his family. On this upcomming 14th anniversary for the genocide I will remember his selfless acts. I intend to visit his family on my upcoming trip back to Africa in 7 years.
trance301 3 years ago 16
Things like this are started by comments like the ones you read here. We should start by practicing tolerance towards each other rather than dissing each other. I'm not christian but if being part of an organized religion makes you a better person, more power to you... Let's learn from our stupid actions and not repeat it over and over and over and over again like we are doing right now in Darfour and Tibet... Tolerance people, we need it if we are going to survive as a species.
GuinevereP1977 3 years ago
excellent point well said and God bless
DazzelPebbels 3 years ago
first of all the bible has nothin to do with ppl acting evil...ppl choose to do evil...christianity teaches to love ur neighbor so if u believe christianity is the blame u have a problem
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cobenobo 3 years ago
You can't connect Catholicism and Christianity, they believe different things.
Just because some one has the title of "priest" doesn't automatically make them without evil. Satan still works.
burlygurly 3 years ago
my fucking 30th something time watching this entire documentary. and each and everytime i still cry, i still get angry and always affected by it. each and everytime...rwanda is under my skin....
ohio
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Just because some people were killed in a Church?? A CHURCH IS A BUILDING!! The Bible has nothing to do with the reason these people were killed!! It was the "ethnic-cleansing" ! The Bible DOES talk about these things: "The heart is decietful, above all things, and desperately wicked, who can know it?" Jer. 17:9
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cobenobo 3 years ago
My, my...with all the venom, hatemongering, and ignorance, apparently it is not only Christians who are evil. Perhaps you should try going to church, reading a Bible, and praying before you condemn a religion. Christians can certainly be evil, they are human. Christianity is not evil. Neither is the Bible. To state that is intolerant and hateful. By the way, the Bible was written by people from Palestine/Israel, not Europe. It was only interpreted into English, etc. by Europeans.
TheBruceGday 3 years ago
Also...Amen, Abu229. May Allah bless him indeed.
TheBruceGday 3 years ago
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cobenobo 4 years ago
Mbaye Diagne
None of you shit talking motherfuckers forget that name.
CheeezMaster 4 years ago 5
God Bless Mbaye Diagne. Goodness at its best.
yeaddiskonjo 4 years ago 2
so the UN convicted Kimbambe (?) for genocide, while DURING the genocide they stood by picking their collective noses?
What an organization.
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cobenobo 4 years ago 7
This discussion has obviously deteriated. shame, as a student who has spent so much time researching Rwanda it is sad to see how completely misunderstood and mistreated this subject is, despite the documentary being in fact very good, and horrific in it's accuracy.
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cobenobo 4 years ago
Thank You also from me, i totally agree with SugarShandy, had the same feelings (also only watch in polish news that hutu fights with tootsie and killing each other), shame that after all of that Civilized World is not dooing much for help simular situation witch is happening right now in Sudan (darfur)
activeblackberry 4 years ago
thank you soo much for posting this...while this was happening I was partying it up as a senior in high school, remembered seeing sprinklings about this on the evening news, but never really knew what happened...as an adult I watched Hotel Ruwanda with my mouth wide open...thank you for posting this and showing me the WHOLE truth...I am ashamed of my country...greed is the only thing that moves them
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cobenobo 4 years ago
The UN asked for 6,000 trrops and had difficulty finding anyone. Israel and Cambodia, both with populations which have experienced/suffered genocide, should have ponied up 50,000 troops to send. Never again!
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cobenobo 4 years ago
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke (1729-1979)
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it" Martin Luther King Jr.
ohthehumanitynow 4 years ago
its fine...I KNow my previous messages showed alot of anger but I was reading on the situation of sudan when i read your comment and just couldnt beleive I was reading such things... but im very happy that you have the desire to know more about my country than just its negative attention because im getting tired of hearing people have so much pity for all those war children that they see on t.v but at the end of the day they just go back to there lives and act as if they never saw anything
carinek 4 years ago
First off, I am an American. Secondly, I am more ashamed of the idiotic government of mine who couldn't define "genocide" because it wasn't in their "best interest".
The saddest thing was, Rwanda was NOT Mogadishu. Soldiers' bodies were NOT being drug through the streets. ALL IT TOOK WAS THE PRESENCE OF UN OR "WHITE" TROOPS. THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE GUNS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!
DOWN WITH THE UN!!! THEY ARE USELESS
eweiler460 4 years ago