Destiny and CombatEX talking strategy - Starcraft 2

[Monerasauce]

Ha. this is the kinda balance QQ toss gives. They make their deathball and call the other race imba cuz they're not used to their deathball dying.

[Zzzzzzeer]

13:53

Oh how times have changed...

[messi996]

@Zzzzzzeer just shows that balance is never really an issue, finding out how to play is the important thing, if i am not mistake there wasnt a huge amount of changes towards muta opening since then

[InzaneMode]

LOL destiny is owning sooooo hard xD

[serg37]

Steven : I am back, Sorry did it miss some thing?

Ex: I am just trashtalking your girlfriend

Steven: Arh Okay

LOLS LOLS

[microitup]

A man with a wrench and an engineering degree counters an aircraft carrier blowing his house up. He could technically disassemble it.

ROFL

[gotentk4]

is combatex back instreaming?

[rufia75]

megumi is so manner rofl.

yo bitch, is Steven there?

Why dont you make sandwiches?

This is why girls dont go anywhere in life?

she sounds like she's 5.

No BM in response from Megumi. Megumi you're awesome.

[xTheLynkx]

around 6:40 "you're doing everything too early" (talking about his 2 base rush) well he's obviously doing it properly as he won both times against you with it..

[strills1234]

Combat sounds different in this vid.

[MKSecOld]

What a great analogy.

[Enzofromwb]

Holy sarcastic absurdly patient trolling, Batman!

[terrell568]

"I got to make my paper boo boo" LMAO steven you will forever be my favorite streamer

[Zinjah]

CombatEX is such a fucking moron

[igotTHEcookies]

"brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb" "keeps talking... lol"

[webad00]

You get the impression CombatEX is trying to guide big D into how he should play?

[GrovBenstomme]

I think CombatX is schizo after watching this video

[timdoozy]

So much bm ^^

[DFTF2]

"No humility; no skill." - War cry of CombatEZ

[tobyism]

CombatEZ may be the biggest simpleton in the SC2 community. Stream sniper telling people how to play? Please

[LintyHaloHunter]

@tobyism Why quote deezer?

[tobyism]

@LintyHaloHunter damn.. that hurts. but I'm guessing there is no way deezer was half that articulate.

[oIICharlieIIo]

Whats wrong with that CombatEX guy? lost 4 of 5 matches and will tell him how to play? lol

[jkimpiano]

CombatEx is ossum^^ btw im pretty sure the two are close friends.

[RealQuizM]

CombatEX, what a duche!

[iheartyoursoul]

Tbf, he is actually ok at SC D:

[GOcgyFLAMESgo]

combat sounds like a pms'ing hoe

[guitarpro925]

before he hated destiny and would be so immature ,and halfway through its like their good friends, and he says "steven i actually think your a really smart guy" god its like a matrix ._.

[HoldThisHandTightly]

this video shows perfectly the reason this guy is called combatEZ he's pathetic as shit

[guitarpro925]

destiny your like coaching combat ez and being so sarcrastic and nice at the same time, at first combatez is mad, then he is just begging for how to beat destinys build , and destiny is just being nice and coaching him, god combat is such a sad sad little fuck , and destiny is so smart, "you just said my strategy is shit now your saying its unbeatable" he cant accept defeat -_-

[guitarpro925]

its so funny how sad combatex is , destiny is like being so sarcastic and he isnt taking it seriously and hes trolling the fuck out of combatez and see him get that mad is so funny

[MrJordanport]

Is that Teemo? Wait, wrong game

[xNucL3aRx]

4:30 ! ?!

[swordwielder]

The girl is Megumixbear

[Finrayy]

Interesting, CombatEX actually gained some humility halfway through and actually started speaking with some respect.. I've never seen this side of him before^^

[WeNeedALifeBLKOPS]

Megaplex unit, which evolved from the hive, then a fungal unit building, then evolve fungal units from broodlords, and when it evolves it has a 50% chance of dieing but on creep its only 30% because creep is soft :)... Cute troll oh lol oh lol

[ThEfRoZeNbLiZzArD]

Is... tamara home?

[MariosGuy]

he sounds so much like idra thru skype like his voice

[jaaki94]

combat got nice strategic insight but otherwise he's a complete dickface

[malaki166]

what destinys talking is complete shit, infestors are op and youre all going to see when they get nerfed

[jayliquori]

I don't understand how anyone could follow CombatEZ.

[Dsan805]

So it's the megaplex-fungle tree+broodlord= 50% chance it crashes into ground & died except on creep where it's only a 30% chance?

[DavidAllison008]

haters gona hate

[canadianalbanian]

lol PWNED COMBATEX its nice to hear a TOSS complain about ZERG being broken

[RowdyWizzarrdd]

Aren't you at his house, bitch? Making sandwiches? WTF IS WRONG WITH HIM.

[kennypu]

"Yo Bitch, is Steven there?"

LOL

[pyrotrout]

Awww... Destiny left for that amount of time because his child was crying, you can hear it in the background.

[allmhuran]

Templar don't really counter infestors anyway. First of all, fungal range is longer than feedback because of the AoE of fungal. Secondly, infestors only need to fungal the front of the protoss army, whereas templar need to feedback the rear of the zerg army. And thirdly, fungal is an AoE cast, feedback requires much more accuracy (micro). Solution might be to reduce the range of fungal or increase the range of feedback (probably the latter, since templar also can't really feedback ghosts atm)

[deathnube99]

@allmhuran IMO feedback range is WAAAYYY further than fungal range, and the delay for fungal n feel bad, i don think what u say is "fully" right, jus partially.

[Dmen555]

@deathnube99 no theyre both 9 lol....check liquipedia

[allmhuran]

@deathnube99 This is not a matter of opinion. The on-paper range for each is the same (9), but fungal has an AoE radius of 2, which means that the infestor can hit a unit at 11 range with fungal.

[deathnube99]

@allmhuran how often do u c a fungal laying down 1st of the feed back happen 1st? i think mayb is caus of the delay, i myself do not own a starcraft 2 caus i live in Msia and the server here is bad as hell but i do love to watch alot of starcraft 2 game plays so... sry for the lack of understanding.

[dcoxen]

@allmhuran If there are a lot of infestors, why not just storm them? Infestors are slow, they cant run out of the storms very quickly. One or two storms can kill quite a few infestors, just like fungal can kill hts if in the wrong position.

[allmhuran]

@dcoxen 1 storm will not kill an infestor. 2 will if they just stand in it (but of course they won't do that). Infestors are much much faster than HT, and once a HT is fungaled it is immoble, therefore easy to fungal again or hit with something else.

[dcoxen]

@allmhuran just like 1 or two fungals wont kill a ht, but infestors are more expensive than hts. They are still overall a counter to infestors.

[allmhuran]

@dcoxen Maybe they're supposed to be, but if the HT can never get in range of the infestor to cast feedback (given relatively equal micro), then the fact that feedback counters them on paper is kinda moot (we seem to have concluded that storm vs fungal is not the relevant comparison, aye?)

[Mitsoumi21]

"Cos the creep is soft" rofl.

[armyrule17]

why i think CombatEX is nice in this video.... LOL

[Dmen555]

btw destiny ur awesome XD

[Dmen555]

combatEX flames too much -.-

[kamikrazi123]

holy fuck combat ex, just fucking scout. even diamond 3v3 scrubs scout ffs.

[own121212]

wow CombatEX manning up hes smarter than the protoss qqing about infestors

[tdogg224]

i wish combat would stop spitting into the mic

[blaekman]

he won 4/5 of the games hahaha holy fuck combat ex is so bad akk he dies us cheese

[jobroking]

the creep is softer !!! lol:p

[Mydashkey]

spaz out

[tg43fly]

rofl, destiny schooling combatex in sc2

[BreakPointSC]

Is that Megumi in the backround O_o

[Apolloaded]

CombatEZ sounds like that DDOS kid. o __o

[allmhuran]

Mothership, leave in the back, vortex your own army after all the neurals are cast. No more energy for neural (destiny will probably say this later but I'm at 6:20...)

[Capeau]

hes right about the infestors being obviously op though... off course destiny doesnt agree, infestors are his favoured little pets

[zOLdixCL]

i LOLed so hard at CombatEX's Good manners at the end of the video, he definetly learnt a leasson that day, <3 Destiny

[InFusing]

2 base zergling/infestor is his ZvP signature play, this guy is fucking retarded he doesn't even know what a all-in is.

[cruzer1011]

lol charge him for the lesson

[Phillehboi]

LOL "I had the hardcounter to infestors and you still won"

I really think if that happens, you're freaking terrible.

[kyr200]

"I should of won that battle"

to bad you didn't CombatEz

[herbalman2000]

CombatEZ is the worst player ever, besides its funny how he keeps contradicting himself... this shows how he really does not understand how the game works...

[APPLEPIE978]

@herbalman2000 He is in Grand Masters and could probably easily pawn anything under low Grand. He has also has beaten Destiny a couple of times, it's just that it's less publicized.

[qwaszxedcvfrtgb]

@APPLEPIE978 Atleast 90% of the times CombatEX beat Destiny was because CombatEZ was stream sniping.

[APPLEPIE978]

@qwaszxedcvfrtgb but you got to admit that he is not a bad player. You have to have some sort of skill to make it to low Grand.

[qwaszxedcvfrtgb]

@APPLEPIE978 he's not a bad player no, otherwise he wouldnt be a GM. but i think he has to quit stream sniping and manner the fuck up.

[RockeroNato]

@qwaszxedcvfrtgb manner isnt a necessity, he uses it for meta game, wich is really smart xD

and his stream sniping doesnt help him at all xD

[Hulavuta]

@herbalman2000 He wasn't contradicting himself, he was admitting he was wrong. There's more respect in that. 

[AnderJ017]

Yo bitch, is Stephen there? lmao

[kamikrazi123]

I hope steven's not selling himself out.

[Rabble2]

ahhhh my ears were bleeding when i started watching but now i kind of feel at peace

[ahnman341]

dude.  magumi is so nice.

[ospray911]

cause creep is softer XD

[33erasmus]

lololol combat trying to be manner

[Forgiv3n777]

i really go like this strategy talk really interesting and nice to watch

[LordChrisHimself]

Impressive dude. This kid is growing up. You guys might actually be friends lol

[iknowbetter]

wow, Combat was actually mannered for most of the video, and actually had a smart conversation. I am impressed.

[LordChrisHimself]

AHAH "When Starcraft 2 gets done in a year, I'm fucked"

[Harkruel]

That was good... I have to give some props to CombatEX.. he has improved, NOT ALOT but he has somewhat.

[TheSecretStalker21]

I fucking love Destiny so fucking much.......

[tjlegion2]

"I'll brb!"

/continues to talk for 5 minutes.

[Sthetoscop3]

combatEX manner? wow lol

[DevilMayFry]

"I had the hard counter to Infestors but still lost T_T"

"You have to micro them too HURR DURR COMBADEZ"

[shipsimulatorfreak]

and fuck combatez hes a bitch 

[Equity213]

I want combatex to win MLG and for incontrol to have to present him with his award.

[shipsimulatorfreak]

wow i really agree with destiny i mean i think high temps should have an area of effect

[tjtomax]

@shipsimulatorfreak those are called ghosts.

[shipsimulatorfreak]

@tjtomax yes but were talking about protoss not terran

[GamesGaloreVideos]

@shipsimulatorfreak He was trolling him. This is him making fun of CombatEX.

[3atPie]

OMG RALEIGH+COMBAT EX=WOOOOT

[gooooooople]

I actually enjoyed this. I had no idea about the Mothership thing, I'll give that a shot.

[flairmonkey]

Is that Steven's girlfriend? She sounds hot as hell I must say.

[Ptondus]

CombatEZ, you mad bro? TROLROLROROLROLROLRORLORLOL

[1q2w3ejoshy]

Lol, thanks for the heads-up ppl:)

[Eschatonx]

LOL I love destiny trolling, great stuff

[xJdProductions]

@1q2w3ejoshy Bm means Bad Manner

[Iamthemonkeyhead]

What would happen if CombatEx went a lot of phoenix to lift up infestors and snipe em. Brood/roach can't touch them. Or is that a dumb suggestion? :P

[piew101]

@Iamthemonkeyhead Fungal Growth,Neutral Parasite,corruptors >.> Brood Lords come from Corruptors you know?

[The1stJesusMachine]

@Iamthemonkeyhead dumb suggestion, fungal phonix

[StL33T]

@Iamthemonkeyhead thats smart, but i pheonix group up quite easy, and i think of player like destiny can fungal that quite ezily

[whorehey0]

@Iamthemonkeyhead infestors would fungal the phoenix. and before make broodlords you need to make corruptors and that hard counters phoenix. the only way that the phoenix would work is luck if you can lift all of them at once while the player isnt looking :)

[lithiumissick42]

@Iamthemonkeyhead eehhhhhhh fungal growth kinda rapes phoenix and i think it has more range than graviton beam not sure tho......also they can just mix hydras...dont think it would work just cuz fungal owns phoenix soooooo hard + infested terrans if needed

[itsweibo]

@Iamthemonkeyhead destiny could always fungal them.

[flixt]

@Iamthemonkeyhead what if fungal caught the pheonix

[aboody1111]

@Iamthemonkeyhead its dumb because fungle catches all the phoenixes that clumped up together

[sirfreakish]

@Iamthemonkeyhead A lot of phoenixes is a large investment and of course infestors can fungal/infesteterran them

[zept42]

@Iamthemonkeyhead well 1 fungle traps all the phoenix and rapes the shit out of em...

[wickedfire0]

@Iamthemonkeyhead Fungal :(

[Iamthemonkeyhead]

@wickedfire0 That powerful, huh? Well then I don't know.

[ragnarocks0]

@Iamthemonkeyhead Its a good suggestion but a mute point, because CombatEZ can't micro.

[DibzIsHere]

@Iamthemonkeyhead Fungal, infested terrans.

[Thetrollmaster2000]

@Iamthemonkeyhead fungal growth

[Sharkrzebest]

@Iamthemonkeyhead I think destiny has enough micro tu fungal them before they come to contact

[zhopenza]

@Sharkrzebest spamming fungal is hard

[mrtretre100]

@Iamthemonkeyhead yea brood lords come from coruptors. corruptors counter phoenix

[fLyGoN160595]

@Iamthemonkeyhead fungal destryos phönixes.

[HeathenSC]

@Iamthemonkeyhead burrow infestors and make infested terran or fungal the phoenix to death.

[zorrodude2]

@Iamthemonkeyhead fungals and infested terrans pretty much beats it.

[kamikrazi123]

@Iamthemonkeyhead nt scrub, you just chain fungal the flock of phoenixes

[deathnube99]

@Iamthemonkeyhead i think it would be fungaled b4 it reaches them? idk.... jus oponion

[CuPants]

@Iamthemonkeyhead I'm sure you've probably gotten 100 replies, but fungal and infested terrans would clean that up pretty well.

[dcoxen]

@Iamthemonkeyhead Corruptors are pretty good against phoenix, and fungal is pretty good against them as well.

[BANDITProductions1]

@Iamthemonkeyhead Well, the thing is if Steven gets off a nice fungal on the phoenix then Combat would be fucked. Yeah its a less fungal(s) on the army, but thats a big part of supply Combat couldn't use. They also die pretty fast. I agree with your idea though, I like it.

[FungeySpongey]

@Iamthemonkeyhead That's assuming he can even get close enough without getting fungaled (phoenix group up like mad). Also, if he invests too much in air units, his ground army will be easily destroyed by his ling/roach composition and there would be no reason to even have to infestors to be cost effective.

[FleivaSleiva]

@Iamthemonkeyhead i think that and HT + colosuss and stalkers would have done it very well :) but ofc it all comes down too micro and the marco before that :) uppgrades and economy.

[catalyst2200]

@Iamthemonkeyhead the Phoenix could be fungled, and his ground army would be smaller, so the roaches could just walk into his base. /shrug idk

[XDPirateXD]

lOl

[1q2w3ejoshy]

Im sorry, this a no-brainer, but what does BM stand for?

[Lappie89]

@1q2w3ejoshy Bad manner :)

[wesboyman101]

@1q2w3ejoshy Bad Manner

[igetbetter901]

@1q2w3ejoshy bad manner

[LordKnasticuz]

@1q2w3ejoshy Bad Manner, like talking shit etc

[Hiso3]

@1q2w3ejoshy Bad Manner

[itzvajonah]

Does combat know he has the shittiest mic ever?

[GameWasASuccess]

Interesting

[Leon27Bears]

.......where the fuck did steven go? Lol

[Shinji87]

The great and powerful Wasif Khan will be at MLG Raleigh!!!

21:05

[srikanth94]

8 supply for fucking unit...

[srikanth94]

lol @ brood lord falling down...

[cuiiey]

I would be extremely happy to watch your stream even if you were to just talk to others about starcraft!

[Hankatu]

Hmm. He doesen't seem like as big of a twat in this video.

Perhaps he was just trolling in that Deezer grudge match interview. *Shrug*

[OsirisCLIPS]

CombatEX needs to get a new fucking mic...wow. Spics, spics everywhere.

[1q2w3ejoshy]

CombatEx is actually quite the joker.

[iluvluckystar]

 I dunno why, but this video made me think combt is pretty cool

[RythmEmotions]

Destiny is so getting laid.

[onarass]

LOL I love the bit when he leaves to tend to his child and Combat-EX is like "Stop beating off"

[schustererik83]

the part about the man with the engineering degree made me LOL IRL

[MrFellanG]

Destiny y u so crazy? :3

[Eclypsia13]

I could see Phoenix's being good against infestors. Grav a good ammount snipe their fragile asses then piss off. Which then will push your opponent to making more queen or hydra as the mutas and corruptor being cruddy.

[Youcansuckme69]

@Eclypsia13 OR the zerg fungals all the pheonix.

[Eclypsia13]

@Youcansuckme69 If your stupid enough to be doing it from a position that they can blatantly see it from. You know, phoenix's being the fastest unit, it doesn't exactly give them time to react. Their not seige mode tanks xP

[SomaCruzCastle]

I am starting to like CombatEX. D:

[itzvajonah]

@SomaCruzCastle How?

[chappyman82]

Combat ex is a really good player and most people don't realize but these two are like best friends so stfu every 1 bagging combat ex

[fezlightning]

@chappyman82 is that a serious statement?

[FalconX88]

Well i cannot take CombatEx serious....don't know why (yes, that's sarcatsic)