@RS1963 LMFAOOOOOOOOOO you people will come up with anything hahahahahaha its god damn hilarious... so randhi say's it was a string,... now when she does it in a box the scientist made to rule out any of that, even though they already examined the objects, u say it was a magnet... dude.. just watch this and stfu /watch?v=4jgMzcRxxEE ... pwnt
randi is a fukin idiot.. SERIOUSLY I SERIOUSLY THINK THIS... he is old.. telekinesis is possible and its been proved.. randi is a stupid idiot.. seriously
When a Russian scientist tried to debunk her, challenging her to alter his own heart rate, the session was interrupted, as he nearly went into cardiac arrest (filmed). She reportedly stopped the heart of a frog and moved 1 lb non-metallic objects (some filmed). Russian literature describes fine electrically charged mist detected near her hands. The atheist Soviet science absolutely abhors supernatural explanations :-), so their methods would be quite rigorous. I am not so sure on this one...
This guy is an idiot. Don't you think magnets would be the first thing that people would search for? We are talking about scientist not just a crowd of people at a magic show. Here's a clue, scientist aren't going up to David Blaine to see how he moves objects, why?
Der Mann weiß doch nicht mal wovon er da redet wenn sie die Objekte mit Fäden bewegen würde man sieht ja auch im Video Dan würde sich maximal nur ein gegenstandt bewegen man muss ja bedenken man bräuchte einen Dünen Faden aber es bewegte sich erst die Streichholz Schachtel und danach diese komische runde Uhr in eine ganz andere Richtung also halte ich das führ eher unwahrscheinlich das sie getrickst hat.
oh, and by the way, it's a free forum, anybody can express it's opinion, none is above other, but making people belive in your opinion - to achieve that you should try to express it with a little bit more decency.
Ontopic : Maybe Nina didn't really had those powers, but I am sure there are people all over the globe, that have special "gifts" but don't feel the need to tell them to everybody.
Any real phenomenon will be hidden fast from the eyes of the "public".
lilducky85 - do you think of yourself as a persone who has a life ? think that there may be "psi" fans that also have a "life", maybe a lot more active then yours. Just for the record, I bet at least one of your "girls" left you / cheat on you for someone "who has a life"
Some of this phenomenons CAN have a scientific explication, and almost all of them a logical one. Do you really think any "youtuber" should be aware of the poss. of the "mind" ?
James Randi you are wrong about Nina Kulagina. Kulagina was put in a X Ray to see if she has any hidden magnets on her body but they didn't found any hidden magnets on her and they have no evidence of her using trickery. Do you think you can stop a frogs heart or make a person into a state of cardiac arrest by trickery? i don't thinks so. Her brain was registering 4x than normal level and her heart beat was beating 200beats per minute do you that can be done by trickery? MY FUCKING ASS.
Telekinesis is a natural ability we all have this albility but it is just locked down in our hidden mind.Telekinesis has to do nothing with magic,satanic,witchcraft,and wierd things.Telekinesis is natural it is not supernatural. If you want telekinetic power you have to have clarity of thought and be in that clarity for a really long time just like the guy from the movie The Phenomenon said.
if you'll watch the wholl original video you will see buth side of her hands and i can tell you for sure that there is no magnet in their hands.
and i promis you that the fact that she's a woman doesn't prevent from the scientists to check her, so what that james randy is saying seems as totaly nonsense .
he doesn't even knows her name .
he is hurry to denounce everything that related to supernatural powers.
you guys are sad and need to stop jaggin off and get a girl, life,or some type of outlet and stop trying to repress free thought. get off james randis ball sack and cultivate youre own knowledge and stop hating on what you are afraid of and cant comprehend
no, I ignored the part of your statement where you were trying to tell people to get a life and etc. that's some nonsense, so there was no point in addressing it.
the real issue is that you equated Randi's exposing of cons as repressing free thought.
now you're going to say that you weren't saying that.
1011010 listen you sound like an impotent right winged anglofial so ill forgive the reference to me being an unevolved neanderthal who worships the sun.
i am not disregarding scientific study as a basis of theory to explain the physical realm or reality. still i believe since we are still in a stage of evolution and will continue to b until we are no more, there are things that cant be explained through conventional methods.
You are absolutely disregarding science. Rather than saying, "you're right, claims of the paranormal usually fall apart under controlled conditions," you're making the usual childish argument that as non-believers we should be pitied, we are suppressive, we are prejudiced, and we can't comprehend your magic. That's not science, dude, that's blind sun worship. Christian zealots and Scientologists both use this type of nonsensical argument to justify their psychological need to believe.
Secondly are you guys agents of some sort? maybe youre thought police, like my good man Orwell referenced 2 , god rest his soul. lets think about what im saying here am i saying the video is irrefutable proof that pk exsists? No but is it possible?
you people are so adamant that this little old lady is part of some conspiracy y ? what does she have to gain by parceling off cheap parlour tricks and calling them something else entirely shes not david blaine and yes i know the difference asshol
What does she gain? Aside from humans having a psychological need to belong to a special group (which she would as a PK hero), she (and other psychics) stands to gain notoriety, infamy, money, respect, stardom, book deals, television shows, promote her local business with her notoriety, etc etc. Sounds like a lot to gain. We're talking about her right now, so already she's gained something. What's with the name-calling? "Asshole" "suck me off"? What's with the hostility?
That's because James Randi is fucken skeptical at Nina Kulagina no scientist can't explain the true telekinesis because it's fucken beyond the physical world you FUCKEN MORON piece of shit!!!! if a skeptic can explain that Nina Kulagina is a fraud that BULLSHIT.Lets say if Nina kulagina truley has telekinesis but a skeptics explains she is using tricks that's bullshit there are no prove of James Randi that Nina Kulagina is using tricks by the way he didnt expain how she can move objects in a box
they didnt really debunk anything at all. they stated a few theories. and how would this string trick work with a glass case over it? couldnt explain that one, she was under strick observation, and what about when she was able to control heartbeats? I like Randi and i think he has valid points alot of the time but sometimes he is a little TOO close minded about these things.
Why is it so hard to believe Nina could do this? Does it really matter if science or magicians can duplicate the feat. So what! I feel sorry for James Randi for being so small minded.
hi everyone! i know now for a fact! that this power does exist! and all you have to do is see the video i discovered, it was seriously hard to get and i got it right before they could delete it! the video shows genuine proof that this power does exist, and also it explain how the Russian scientist are getting tired of telling everyone that it is for real.
lol, i know right? stupid randi with his facts and proof. invisible thread? lol, no way, she obviously used magic!
Seriously dude, grow up, they're cheap parlor tricks and nothing else. It's really sad to see the human race reverting back to how we were hundreds of years ago when we believed that gods were shooting lightning at us. The most logical answer is the correct one 99.9% of the time. Think about it, what's more likely, a thin peice of thread, magnets and other tricks or magical voodoo?
You've got that backwards, any technology advanced enough seems like magic. This is an example of that, what was seen as "magic" back then has been proven as being cheap tricks. It's being laid out here clearly for you and you're refusing to accept the obvious. I suspect you also believe that the earth moves down when you jump don't you?
no im not refusing to accept the obvious, i am talking from my experience, these things are real, not only pk but many other paranormal things, tomorrow we wll not say i "beleive" in these things, couse it will be a fact, it will be a common thing. i thing skeptics are refusing to accept the obvious, lol and ironically they waste their life time investigating on these stuff, and they do this becouse deep down , they "beleive" too .
science don't know everything , and science don't deny these things, there are a lot of scientists studying on these tings, and there are scientist that say these are real, and i think that the major part know about these things but they redicule it, couse if every one will know that these things are real there will be a drastic change in the world.
try to keep us away from the occult and scare us , but the truth is that the church is scared, that if you know the "occult" which mean hidden, we will know the truth, knowledge leads to freedom, church keep people in dark. many people don't know our real potential. they are not aware of it, they don't think of it, they don't care of it.
Nice straw man argument, because we were totally talking about the occult, not the power of the human mind. If you can't stick to the subject at hand you have no right to argue. It's bad enough that you can't even use proper capitalization but being unable to stick to the topic and hand is just sad.
first of all we were discussing nina kulagina, and that would be more the power of human mind rather than "occult" and you mentiond magical voodoo.
but basically the power of human mind and the occult are the same thing, with the occult you will dscover yourself and the power of the human mind. a fortune teller use tarot cards, candles , crystals and that is like is "occult" but she still use the power of the mind to fortell the future. without a developed mind occult would not work
First of all I used the phrase "magical voodoo" as a derogatory of all of this new age junk that causes people like you to choose to believe that everything is mystical and magical just because you can't understand the science or sleight of hand behind it. Secondly, nothing you can say means anything when I have hard scientific proof to back up my claims whereas all you have is outdated beliefs from back when people were killed for thinking that the sun was the center of the solar system.
Yeah, you're right, that's why James Randi's $1,000,000 prize was snatched up right away right? Thousands of people have attempted the prize and no one seems to be able to perform one of these "psychic miracles" in a controlled environment where they don't have time to set up their mirrors and strings. Until there is any proof of a psychic feat performed in a controlled environment your argument has no basis. I have facts on my side and you just have your "feelings" telling you what's right.
and you think that every experiment they do , they make it public? you don't know what experiments are beeing done , right at this moment.and yes there are charlatans too but there are genuine once. btw i don't have my "feeling"telling me whats right.
I challenge you to present me with one piece of incontrovertible proof that you're right, I will drop my argument if you can do this. I warn you though, this task is impossible. The universe follow certain simple rules and people like you liken the rules you don't understand as being occult and psychic even though every time in history that something of that nature has been presented it's been disproved down the line. Even Houdini was said to have supernatural powers by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply to this. You probably won't even be able to understand my response judging by your inability to string together a proper sentence. First of all, did you even watch the video. There are no devices strapped to her at all. And it wasn't a controlled environment. She wasn't searched at all. Russia was so hell bent on being the first country to prove psychics as fact that they didn't bother employing the scientific method. Show me evidence to the contrary.
Secondly you could go up to any decent magician and he could duplicate every single thing she did. That's all it is. Simple trick. But then again you probably think that magic is real too.
i dont give a fuk about if there are gramatical errors ill leave it 2 you to be methodical in how you type its probably really important 2 youre ego..looser
anyway i was refering to another video when they hook her up 2 machines of sum sort. i wasnt there u werent there so all of this speculation is exactly wat it is conjecture.. and im not going 2 go bak and forth with you while you tirad about EVIDENCE. once again ill leave that up 2 you 2 produce evidence
Don't use words that you don't know the meaning of and don't trivialize grammar and spelling. Humans are the only animal ever to evolve to the point that we have a written language.
How can you cite something like "machines of some sort"? If you can't tell me what they are then they don't matter. They could just be heart monitors proving that her heart rate doesn't change when she does her stuff. And I don't have to provide evidence if you can't prove your point to begin with.
Language is a very important mechanism by which human beings express their thoughts. It is a vital tool in critical thinking. If a person cannot communicate well, it can't be assumed that they think well. If a person is too lazy to type, it can't be presumed she is an active thinker. A person can also be developmentally challenged, and there is nothing wrong with that, but perhaps the developmentally challenged shouldn't be arguing scientific methodology with someone on YouTube.
There is also the possibility that the person is not a native English speaker. That's a fair argument for being more lenient towards grammatical errors. But when a person abandons scientific methodology in favor of believing in unprovable, untestable, psychic nonsense, that's where the person really loses their credibility. It is far more closed-minded to believe in psi stuff than to be a skeptic. Skeptics will change with proof. Psi-fans will never change because believing feels too good.
And yes im a blck man trying 2 regurgitate english, lol Im not going to get into to a debate about the ins and outs of grammar and spelliinggg, feel me ?
but instead address the issue,
now alot has been said about credibility.
Who the fuk are you guys? And what makes youre opinion more credible than mine?
randy is stupid, jelouse, full of envy. i hate randy and skeptics like him, they try to find 1000,000,000,0000,00 stupid excuse to deny the evidens and the truth. and if they don't find any excuse, they still dont beleive, and say its a fraud.
fuck you randy
fuck you rand
randy want's to have these abilities, he is so frustrated, get a life randy.
she use to lose 2-3 pound per session from the tension, she died of a heart attack in her 50 th.. let me tell you one more thing, to be Psychic in USSR at that time wasn't the best thing.. cause officially this thing wasn't existing and even religion was prohibited. She was real! You that smart?? replicate it?? do same with magnets! move object in different directions and make tennis ball float in the air covered by the glass! Good luck!
another thing.. When I lived in Russia (USSR at that time) I heard about Kulagina, I remember even article in magazine "chelovek i zakon" (Man and the Law) article accused her in fakery and tricks, there was a court case and Kulaginna vas able to demonstrate her powers in court, so the magazine printed apology to her.! That was something unbelievable at that time, as Man and Law that government magazine about Police KGB and other stuff.
Find the highest-denier nylon stockings that you can. Tease out one of the monofilaments. Tie it into a loop and place it on a table in such a way that you can easily find it and secretly hook it between your hands. You will now be able to move matches and small boxes, and even watchers just a couple of feet away will be unable to see the nylon. Keep them even further away by claiming that they will 'adversely affect the demonstration'. Which they would do, of course.
Other methods are, of course, magnets or a high-frequency vibrator (on the knee, say) which can be secretly applied to a table leg. This is known as the 'bunch-of-sticks' principle of conjuring: one gets the same effect using different methods. Because the naive observer thinks that the same 'phenomenon' is acting every time, he systematically rules out trickery (he THINKS) because no single subterfuge can produce all of the observed behaviours. One subterfuge cannot; 3 or more subterfuges can!
ur explanations dont really explain it.if u got some videos show me how its done or im gonna be skeptical against you. u can say how its done but can u show how its done.she pulls multiple objects, ohh so she has multiple strings on her fingers and she would have to move her hand around to get them all on all of the matches, thats just not plausable, but if u can show me instead of tell me, then maybe i can understand ur reasoning.remember humans still dont know gravity,darkmatter,subatomics
So, if I tell you how the 'sawing a lady in half' illusion is done, I still have to build all of the apparatus and do it? That is not being skeptical; that is being obtuse. Even if I reproduced the above effects perfectly, you would then claim that I had used modern computer tricks. You have not even understood how the thread trick works: it is not tied to the objects, it is stretched between the hands. Watch the clip again. Why does she bring her hands together after moving the cigarette, etc?
Yes, when electricity first became widely available in the time of Edison, guess what the most popular domestic use was. It was to drive vibro-massagers. Not exactly beyond the technological skill of the 50s then.
I can't believe this joker says she his magnets in her vagina. If this jerk hates Psionics so much, why does he even bother to open his mouth.
If he would actually do some research himself, and not have his butt buddy Kramer do all his dirt work, he would find that the mind is more capable and powerful than he knows.
A "joker," huh? James Randi was granted the McArthur "genius" award, loser. He is also saying that the magnet is concealed in her bra, not her vagina, dummy. Makes more sense than "telekinesis."
I agree, the mind is powerful and capable. It is capable of reason and logic. People need to stop taking "psychics" at their word and apply critical thinking (hence, the powerful and capable mind).
Oh Randi you are so stupid! You're not a scientist, SO, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
gmailmarcos 1 month ago
oh yeah randi.. she moved a bunch of matches controlled conditions and in a box.. matches are made of wood... fukin idiot
infinity2012starseed 8 months ago
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RS1963 8 months ago
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infinity2012starseed 8 months ago
@RS1963 LMFAOOOOOOOOOO you people will come up with anything hahahahahaha its god damn hilarious... so randhi say's it was a string,... now when she does it in a box the scientist made to rule out any of that, even though they already examined the objects, u say it was a magnet... dude.. just watch this and stfu /watch?v=4jgMzcRxxEE ... pwnt
infinity2012starseed 8 months ago
randi is a fukin idiot.. SERIOUSLY I SERIOUSLY THINK THIS... he is old.. telekinesis is possible and its been proved.. randi is a stupid idiot.. seriously
infinity2012starseed 8 months ago
I sense jealousy.
saladmonsterfrommars 8 months ago
Check my new PK video. Thanks.
ChrisZanetti 1 year ago
Why does she need her hands if this is real and why is she straining so. It does look fake
Hailwillisthedon 1 year ago
When a Russian scientist tried to debunk her, challenging her to alter his own heart rate, the session was interrupted, as he nearly went into cardiac arrest (filmed). She reportedly stopped the heart of a frog and moved 1 lb non-metallic objects (some filmed). Russian literature describes fine electrically charged mist detected near her hands. The atheist Soviet science absolutely abhors supernatural explanations :-), so their methods would be quite rigorous. I am not so sure on this one...
dharmanova 1 year ago
@dharmanova bahahahahahaha russian scientist skeptic peice of shit = pwnt
infinity2012starseed 8 months ago
This guy is an idiot. Don't you think magnets would be the first thing that people would search for? We are talking about scientist not just a crowd of people at a magic show. Here's a clue, scientist aren't going up to David Blaine to see how he moves objects, why?
Ramel34 1 year ago 2
Der Mann weiß doch nicht mal wovon er da redet wenn sie die Objekte mit Fäden bewegen würde man sieht ja auch im Video Dan würde sich maximal nur ein gegenstandt bewegen man muss ja bedenken man bräuchte einen Dünen Faden aber es bewegte sich erst die Streichholz Schachtel und danach diese komische runde Uhr in eine ganz andere Richtung also halte ich das führ eher unwahrscheinlich das sie getrickst hat.
Alican17b 1 year ago
Hi.... :D
midnightblossom88 2 years ago
oh, and by the way, it's a free forum, anybody can express it's opinion, none is above other, but making people belive in your opinion - to achieve that you should try to express it with a little bit more decency.
Ontopic : Maybe Nina didn't really had those powers, but I am sure there are people all over the globe, that have special "gifts" but don't feel the need to tell them to everybody.
Any real phenomenon will be hidden fast from the eyes of the "public".
japoepitaph 2 years ago
lilducky85 - do you think of yourself as a persone who has a life ? think that there may be "psi" fans that also have a "life", maybe a lot more active then yours. Just for the record, I bet at least one of your "girls" left you / cheat on you for someone "who has a life"
Some of this phenomenons CAN have a scientific explication, and almost all of them a logical one. Do you really think any "youtuber" should be aware of the poss. of the "mind" ?
Personally, I am happy you aren't.
japoepitaph 2 years ago
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angelsssssssssssss 2 years ago
James Randi you are wrong about Nina Kulagina. Kulagina was put in a X Ray to see if she has any hidden magnets on her body but they didn't found any hidden magnets on her and they have no evidence of her using trickery. Do you think you can stop a frogs heart or make a person into a state of cardiac arrest by trickery? i don't thinks so. Her brain was registering 4x than normal level and her heart beat was beating 200beats per minute do you that can be done by trickery? MY FUCKING ASS.
angelsssssssssssss 2 years ago
Telekinesis is a natural ability we all have this albility but it is just locked down in our hidden mind.Telekinesis has to do nothing with magic,satanic,witchcraft,and wierd things.Telekinesis is natural it is not supernatural. If you want telekinetic power you have to have clarity of thought and be in that clarity for a really long time just like the guy from the movie The Phenomenon said.
angelsssssssssssss 2 years ago
Randi is interesting and all but is he saying that a magnet hidden in her vagina is responsible for this?
Maybe he ought to address this as that idea is more far fetched than what the Russians claim to have found.
AllowExpression 2 years ago
@AllowExpression hidden in her vagina? maybe that's why she's twitching a lot ;-) I fell around laughing & my stomach's sore.
Paddyllfixit 1 year ago
@Paddyllfixit ahahahahahaha
infinity2012starseed 8 months ago
Skeptics are dumb shit, if its a magnet then how does she move a wooden match under a glassbox. Ruling out the posibility of a thread or magenet
wolfeyes217 2 years ago
if you'll watch the wholl original video you will see buth side of her hands and i can tell you for sure that there is no magnet in their hands.
and i promis you that the fact that she's a woman doesn't prevent from the scientists to check her, so what that james randy is saying seems as totaly nonsense .
he doesn't even knows her name .
he is hurry to denounce everything that related to supernatural powers.
artp360 3 years ago
you guys are sad and need to stop jaggin off and get a girl, life,or some type of outlet and stop trying to repress free thought. get off james randis ball sack and cultivate youre own knowledge and stop hating on what you are afraid of and cant comprehend
lilducky85 3 years ago
it's amazing how easily you prove to be fooled by a simple magnet trick.
gtg309v 3 years ago
its amazing how easily you misconstrued
what i said
if youre not going 2 interject youre opinion
atleast do so regarding my statement in its entirety!
seriously im sick of u people who dont know shit anyway throwing in youre 2 cents
jus fuk off
lilducky85 3 years ago
no, I ignored the part of your statement where you were trying to tell people to get a life and etc. that's some nonsense, so there was no point in addressing it.
the real issue is that you equated Randi's exposing of cons as repressing free thought.
now you're going to say that you weren't saying that.
gtg309v 3 years ago
''What hes crazy , he said disregard conventional science''!
No merely refining the methods in which we percieve the physical realm
lilducky85 3 years ago
1011010 listen you sound like an impotent right winged anglofial so ill forgive the reference to me being an unevolved neanderthal who worships the sun.
i am not disregarding scientific study as a basis of theory to explain the physical realm or reality. still i believe since we are still in a stage of evolution and will continue to b until we are no more, there are things that cant be explained through conventional methods.
lilducky85 3 years ago
You are absolutely disregarding science. Rather than saying, "you're right, claims of the paranormal usually fall apart under controlled conditions," you're making the usual childish argument that as non-believers we should be pitied, we are suppressive, we are prejudiced, and we can't comprehend your magic. That's not science, dude, that's blind sun worship. Christian zealots and Scientologists both use this type of nonsensical argument to justify their psychological need to believe.
1011010 3 years ago
Secondly are you guys agents of some sort? maybe youre thought police, like my good man Orwell referenced 2 , god rest his soul. lets think about what im saying here am i saying the video is irrefutable proof that pk exsists? No but is it possible?
you people are so adamant that this little old lady is part of some conspiracy y ? what does she have to gain by parceling off cheap parlour tricks and calling them something else entirely shes not david blaine and yes i know the difference asshol
lilducky85 3 years ago
What does she gain? Aside from humans having a psychological need to belong to a special group (which she would as a PK hero), she (and other psychics) stands to gain notoriety, infamy, money, respect, stardom, book deals, television shows, promote her local business with her notoriety, etc etc. Sounds like a lot to gain. We're talking about her right now, so already she's gained something. What's with the name-calling? "Asshole" "suck me off"? What's with the hostility?
1011010 3 years ago
Fuck JAMES RANDI HE MAKES ME SICK all about his skeptical shit
angelsssssssssssss 3 years ago
That's because James Randi is fucken skeptical at Nina Kulagina no scientist can't explain the true telekinesis because it's fucken beyond the physical world you FUCKEN MORON piece of shit!!!! if a skeptic can explain that Nina Kulagina is a fraud that BULLSHIT.Lets say if Nina kulagina truley has telekinesis but a skeptics explains she is using tricks that's bullshit there are no prove of James Randi that Nina Kulagina is using tricks by the way he didnt expain how she can move objects in a box
angelsssssssssssss 3 years ago
they didnt really debunk anything at all. they stated a few theories. and how would this string trick work with a glass case over it? couldnt explain that one, she was under strick observation, and what about when she was able to control heartbeats? I like Randi and i think he has valid points alot of the time but sometimes he is a little TOO close minded about these things.
mattmorris222 3 years ago
Why is it so hard to believe Nina could do this? Does it really matter if science or magicians can duplicate the feat. So what! I feel sorry for James Randi for being so small minded.
dietrichian 3 years ago
yea stupid randi
angelsssssssssssss 3 years ago
hi everyone! i know now for a fact! that this power does exist! and all you have to do is see the video i discovered, it was seriously hard to get and i got it right before they could delete it! the video shows genuine proof that this power does exist, and also it explain how the Russian scientist are getting tired of telling everyone that it is for real.
Millineum20087731 3 years ago
and btw stupid randy, i dont think tha she use magnets to move matchstics , move the pingpong ball, and separate the white of an egg
kcaruana 3 years ago
lol, i know right? stupid randi with his facts and proof. invisible thread? lol, no way, she obviously used magic!
Seriously dude, grow up, they're cheap parlor tricks and nothing else. It's really sad to see the human race reverting back to how we were hundreds of years ago when we believed that gods were shooting lightning at us. The most logical answer is the correct one 99.9% of the time. Think about it, what's more likely, a thin peice of thread, magnets and other tricks or magical voodoo?
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
in near future "magic" will become science ;)
what now is paranormal tomorrow will become normal
kcaruana 3 years ago
You've got that backwards, any technology advanced enough seems like magic. This is an example of that, what was seen as "magic" back then has been proven as being cheap tricks. It's being laid out here clearly for you and you're refusing to accept the obvious. I suspect you also believe that the earth moves down when you jump don't you?
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
no im not refusing to accept the obvious, i am talking from my experience, these things are real, not only pk but many other paranormal things, tomorrow we wll not say i "beleive" in these things, couse it will be a fact, it will be a common thing. i thing skeptics are refusing to accept the obvious, lol and ironically they waste their life time investigating on these stuff, and they do this becouse deep down , they "beleive" too .
kcaruana 3 years ago
science don't know everything , and science don't deny these things, there are a lot of scientists studying on these tings, and there are scientist that say these are real, and i think that the major part know about these things but they redicule it, couse if every one will know that these things are real there will be a drastic change in the world.
even church says "occult" is dangerous, and
kcaruana 3 years ago
try to keep us away from the occult and scare us , but the truth is that the church is scared, that if you know the "occult" which mean hidden, we will know the truth, knowledge leads to freedom, church keep people in dark. many people don't know our real potential. they are not aware of it, they don't think of it, they don't care of it.
but soon there will be a change
kcaruana 3 years ago
Nice straw man argument, because we were totally talking about the occult, not the power of the human mind. If you can't stick to the subject at hand you have no right to argue. It's bad enough that you can't even use proper capitalization but being unable to stick to the topic and hand is just sad.
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
first of all we were discussing nina kulagina, and that would be more the power of human mind rather than "occult" and you mentiond magical voodoo.
but basically the power of human mind and the occult are the same thing, with the occult you will dscover yourself and the power of the human mind. a fortune teller use tarot cards, candles , crystals and that is like is "occult" but she still use the power of the mind to fortell the future. without a developed mind occult would not work
kcaruana 3 years ago
First of all I used the phrase "magical voodoo" as a derogatory of all of this new age junk that causes people like you to choose to believe that everything is mystical and magical just because you can't understand the science or sleight of hand behind it. Secondly, nothing you can say means anything when I have hard scientific proof to back up my claims whereas all you have is outdated beliefs from back when people were killed for thinking that the sun was the center of the solar system.
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
Yeah, you're right, that's why James Randi's $1,000,000 prize was snatched up right away right? Thousands of people have attempted the prize and no one seems to be able to perform one of these "psychic miracles" in a controlled environment where they don't have time to set up their mirrors and strings. Until there is any proof of a psychic feat performed in a controlled environment your argument has no basis. I have facts on my side and you just have your "feelings" telling you what's right.
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
and you think that every experiment they do , they make it public? you don't know what experiments are beeing done , right at this moment.and yes there are charlatans too but there are genuine once. btw i don't have my "feeling"telling me whats right.
kcaruana 3 years ago
I challenge you to present me with one piece of incontrovertible proof that you're right, I will drop my argument if you can do this. I warn you though, this task is impossible. The universe follow certain simple rules and people like you liken the rules you don't understand as being occult and psychic even though every time in history that something of that nature has been presented it's been disproved down the line. Even Houdini was said to have supernatural powers by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
what so called facts do u posses science itself means 'knowledge'
it is obvious Nina was in a controlled enviornment i mean c'mon theyve got all types ov devises strapped 2 her.
still thats my opinion. not fact which you seem so held bent on mentioning.
point being no body knows if this is real or not you can choose 2 belive or not.
still you cant disregard the overwhelming evidence that pk exsists
lilducky85 3 years ago
I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply to this. You probably won't even be able to understand my response judging by your inability to string together a proper sentence. First of all, did you even watch the video. There are no devices strapped to her at all. And it wasn't a controlled environment. She wasn't searched at all. Russia was so hell bent on being the first country to prove psychics as fact that they didn't bother employing the scientific method. Show me evidence to the contrary.
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
Secondly you could go up to any decent magician and he could duplicate every single thing she did. That's all it is. Simple trick. But then again you probably think that magic is real too.
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
youre an arrogant prick!
i dont give a fuk about if there are gramatical errors ill leave it 2 you to be methodical in how you type its probably really important 2 youre ego..looser
anyway i was refering to another video when they hook her up 2 machines of sum sort. i wasnt there u werent there so all of this speculation is exactly wat it is conjecture.. and im not going 2 go bak and forth with you while you tirad about EVIDENCE. once again ill leave that up 2 you 2 produce evidence
lilducky85 3 years ago
Don't use words that you don't know the meaning of and don't trivialize grammar and spelling. Humans are the only animal ever to evolve to the point that we have a written language.
How can you cite something like "machines of some sort"? If you can't tell me what they are then they don't matter. They could just be heart monitors proving that her heart rate doesn't change when she does her stuff. And I don't have to provide evidence if you can't prove your point to begin with.
thegoldenwombat 3 years ago
Language is a very important mechanism by which human beings express their thoughts. It is a vital tool in critical thinking. If a person cannot communicate well, it can't be assumed that they think well. If a person is too lazy to type, it can't be presumed she is an active thinker. A person can also be developmentally challenged, and there is nothing wrong with that, but perhaps the developmentally challenged shouldn't be arguing scientific methodology with someone on YouTube.
1011010 3 years ago
There is also the possibility that the person is not a native English speaker. That's a fair argument for being more lenient towards grammatical errors. But when a person abandons scientific methodology in favor of believing in unprovable, untestable, psychic nonsense, that's where the person really loses their credibility. It is far more closed-minded to believe in psi stuff than to be a skeptic. Skeptics will change with proof. Psi-fans will never change because believing feels too good.
1011010 3 years ago
hey skeptic, Suck me off,
And yes im a blck man trying 2 regurgitate english, lol Im not going to get into to a debate about the ins and outs of grammar and spelliinggg, feel me ?
but instead address the issue,
now alot has been said about credibility.
Who the fuk are you guys? And what makes youre opinion more credible than mine?
lilducky85 3 years ago
randy is stupid, jelouse, full of envy. i hate randy and skeptics like him, they try to find 1000,000,000,0000,00 stupid excuse to deny the evidens and the truth. and if they don't find any excuse, they still dont beleive, and say its a fraud.
fuck you randy
fuck you rand
randy want's to have these abilities, he is so frustrated, get a life randy.
kcaruana 3 years ago
i dont care about this guys penis, but i think shes real.
sosocooiam 3 years ago
Doesnt answer the heart-stopping of the frog test....although that isnt on video and Russia would LOVE to have propaganda going out on the psy-race.
thestrugglewithin 3 years ago
I can lift my penis without touching it.
dumpel 3 years ago 2
lol DONT make a video XD!
thestrugglewithin 3 years ago
she use to lose 2-3 pound per session from the tension, she died of a heart attack in her 50 th.. let me tell you one more thing, to be Psychic in USSR at that time wasn't the best thing.. cause officially this thing wasn't existing and even religion was prohibited. She was real! You that smart?? replicate it?? do same with magnets! move object in different directions and make tennis ball float in the air covered by the glass! Good luck!
pavelprorok 3 years ago
another thing.. When I lived in Russia (USSR at that time) I heard about Kulagina, I remember even article in magazine "chelovek i zakon" (Man and the Law) article accused her in fakery and tricks, there was a court case and Kulaginna vas able to demonstrate her powers in court, so the magazine printed apology to her.! That was something unbelievable at that time, as Man and Law that government magazine about Police KGB and other stuff.
pavelprorok 3 years ago
yea but there were matches.. matches are not magnetic or attracted to magnets... he never explains things that are hard for him to explain
boxa888 4 years ago
Find the highest-denier nylon stockings that you can. Tease out one of the monofilaments. Tie it into a loop and place it on a table in such a way that you can easily find it and secretly hook it between your hands. You will now be able to move matches and small boxes, and even watchers just a couple of feet away will be unable to see the nylon. Keep them even further away by claiming that they will 'adversely affect the demonstration'. Which they would do, of course.
flowerbower 4 years ago
Other methods are, of course, magnets or a high-frequency vibrator (on the knee, say) which can be secretly applied to a table leg. This is known as the 'bunch-of-sticks' principle of conjuring: one gets the same effect using different methods. Because the naive observer thinks that the same 'phenomenon' is acting every time, he systematically rules out trickery (he THINKS) because no single subterfuge can produce all of the observed behaviours. One subterfuge cannot; 3 or more subterfuges can!
flowerbower 4 years ago
ur explanations dont really explain it.if u got some videos show me how its done or im gonna be skeptical against you. u can say how its done but can u show how its done.she pulls multiple objects, ohh so she has multiple strings on her fingers and she would have to move her hand around to get them all on all of the matches, thats just not plausable, but if u can show me instead of tell me, then maybe i can understand ur reasoning.remember humans still dont know gravity,darkmatter,subatomics
boxa888 4 years ago
So, if I tell you how the 'sawing a lady in half' illusion is done, I still have to build all of the apparatus and do it? That is not being skeptical; that is being obtuse. Even if I reproduced the above effects perfectly, you would then claim that I had used modern computer tricks. You have not even understood how the thread trick works: it is not tied to the objects, it is stretched between the hands. Watch the clip again. Why does she bring her hands together after moving the cigarette, etc?
flowerbower 4 years ago
un vibrador de alta frecuencia en los años 50?O_o
adrikaranza 3 years ago
Yes, when electricity first became widely available in the time of Edison, guess what the most popular domestic use was. It was to drive vibro-massagers. Not exactly beyond the technological skill of the 50s then.
flowerbower 3 years ago
conceal metal in the matches
somedude654321 3 years ago
stupid retards ! she covers her bra by hands!
ExtraTerrestrials 4 years ago
Actually Randi suspects the magnet is hidden in her bra.
ultratom 5 years ago
what about the matches there not metallic
boxa888 4 years ago
I can't believe this joker says she his magnets in her vagina. If this jerk hates Psionics so much, why does he even bother to open his mouth.
If he would actually do some research himself, and not have his butt buddy Kramer do all his dirt work, he would find that the mind is more capable and powerful than he knows.
xXxGlorfindeLxXx 5 years ago
A "joker," huh? James Randi was granted the McArthur "genius" award, loser. He is also saying that the magnet is concealed in her bra, not her vagina, dummy. Makes more sense than "telekinesis."
eminboztepe 5 years ago
I agree, the mind is powerful and capable. It is capable of reason and logic. People need to stop taking "psychics" at their word and apply critical thinking (hence, the powerful and capable mind).
oldschoolwarrior 5 years ago
BITCH LOOK AT MY VIDEOS NO SUCH THING!
jonathanpantoja 4 years ago
vagina?? LOL he was talking about her breasts, doofus.
Addicted2Yoga 4 years ago