I happened to remember about this video, hopefully it begins working soon. You can't replace that raw sound and nostalgia, gives me goosebumps every time. One of the best Le Mans videos on youtube.
@panhardrod It seems like the 240p version is corrupted in Youtube's servers. I believe the wii pulls the mp4 version so that explains why it works for panhardrod. You should contact youtube or reupload it.
the only thing to add here, is that the sound of these things driving by at over 200+ you cant help but say... HOLY SH... or FU...k because you have to understand the engineering for these beasts at these speeds are insane. Great video again.. lovin it.
Wicked sounds... I wished I lived at the house at 1:09 LOL The long straight is truly amazing and a testiment to the cars ability for sustained RPM and high speed of over 220+ mph. Miss those days.
Is that somewhere around where today the 2nd chicane is? I heard from a relatively unknown spot there. Some kind of hotel or restaurant, but they charge 10 Euros parking fee - for every person inside the car...
I only made it to the marshalling post at the Hippodrome once, but the cars are far from topspeed there having just exited Tertre Rouge
Today the whole straight is patrolled by police and I bet it's the CRS "Hit first, ask then"
@tommy9927 The position is 320m before the start of the first chicane,access began to get tricky in the early nineties, before that it was a free-for-all.
This video captures the good essence of the old Lemans, when the Mulsanne didn't have any chicanes, wow i wish i could've been in that race back in those days, i've been dreaming with going to Lemans since i was like 5 lol
and that car was probably going like 240 miles an hour so you could hear it from a mile away approaching the view - gets louder and louder and louder and vroom! that was insane - I should go there myself and get the feel of this - 7 Le mans races and I know the drama from Le Mans - the fear, the glory, the triumph, the speed, the endurance, ladies and gents - this is one bad ass mother of a race
@johnsonx33x Why not - watching the cars at dawn is magical. and because most of the people like you are still tucked up in your tents its fairly quiet :)
As mentioned earlier,the camera was a Sony CCD V-100E.8mm video tape meant that it was a lot smaller and lighter than the full size VHS cameras of the day but it still rested on your shoulder and you peered into a small black & white viewfinder.
@idontwanttoregister yup. fuck the fia. they ruin everything. thank god the fia doesn't control most of american sports car racing yet. we still have the good ol' scca over here, creators of can-am and trans-am, two of the best sports car racing series ever.
They only achieved 240 (386 kmh) in private testing. In the 1971 race the 917 Langheck still did 224. Go to Mulsanne's Corner website and search for maximum speeds since 1960. The highest speed ever reached in the race was 405 kmh (252 mph) by a WM Peugeot in 1988 but it was pathetic in corners. The highest speed ever by a car in practice was 400 kmh by a Sauber C9 Mercedes in 1989, the year they won.
The best vision of 917s is in the Steve McQueen movie "Le Mans".
Jackie Oliver did 396kmh in the 917L in night qualifying in '71,Kenny Acheson did 408kmh in '89 in the C9 in qualifying where they unleash the boost and have longer gears
Not questioning your good faith or anything but I can find no reference to that. "Super Sports", Miura Publications, 1988 (ISBN 0-85429-689-1) says Oliver "only" did 240 (386 kmh) in a special test weekend in 1971. That was when they unveiled the new LH and the "Pink Pig". Mulsanne's Corner does not disagree. Sauber 61 (Acheson) did 400 kmh in practice, according to speed trap figures in Autotechnica Le Mans annual 1989 (ISBN 0 9512840 2 9). Mulsanne's Corner agrees.
Go to the 24hr Daytona in jan or feb every year. Plenty of parking and seats and cheap. They won't hit 230mph but it's not bad. It was better and faster in the GTP days.
Hey people, when you're saying "so loud"... most of what you hear in this video is just distortion because the mic of the old camera obviously just couldn't take that kind of noise.
As I say in the notes, the camera takes a break for a split second when hit by the electronic pulse of SOME of the cars but there is no distortion at all that I can hear.The video camera(Sony CCD V100E) was about as good as it got for a domestic model at the time and the sound on here is exactly as I remember it at the time,any body else getting distortion?
I don't know if distortion is the correct term but obviously the sound quality is not as good as it would be if you have had a time machine and a camera from 2000s... :)
Is this the only video like this you have? Please post more if you have.
And now , when the LMP is getting interresting , the organization is changing the rules again (don't they ever learn from the past?). In the near future, all cars will sound the same. Back in the Group C era you could tell what brand it was just by listening to the engine! Great era!
Was uo at Silverstone for the 1000k, a few weeks ago. Although the Audi is a fantastic machine, it was very dissapointing on the noise front. Motorsport could become very quiet, lets hope not. As you say Group C was by far the best. Silk Cut Jaguars, there will never be a noisy so sexy sounding again.
Just wish LMP could become as popular, as the racing last week was as good as anything i seen in the group C days.
None that I ever noticed,the noisiest car this year(88)was the 4rotor mazda which just piped the V12 Jaguar.The previous two years the triple rotor mazda would have been a lot worse but the worst I ever heard was the twin rotor which last ran in 1985.4am in the morning,a near deserted grandstand and the mazda changing up near the end of the pit straight was pure aural cruelty.The lack of valves in a wankel rotary were mostly to blame.The heavily turbo'd porshes were contrastingly civilised.
I've read that during IMSA GTP series did have noise limit regulations, 110 db I've read (but measured how?). That was probably because of so many street tracks.
But I doubt Le Mans and thus World Sportscar Championship had noise limits?
Late reply here, but they measured the GTP cars via trackside decibel meters. There's a story about James Weaver in a Dyson Porsche 962 which cracked its muffler and was going to be DQ'd because of excessive noise, so knowing where the little meter was he just went a bit off line and destroyed the device with his car :). I think that was at Del Mar...
I've read that story. :) According to Mike Fuller (Mulsanne's Corner website) during IMSA GTP years the noise regulation was actually as low as 108 dB. But what is important how they measured it...
But since Le Mans (and World Sportscar Chamionship) had more to do with FIA and ACO and their regulations, IMSA's rules doesn't apply here. Also WSPC wasn't run on street cources unlike IMSA which might have explained the noise regulation.
I found Mike's old post from Ten Tenths forums, about the IMSA regulation: "Track side, from a sound meter 50ft from the side of the car. And yes, many struggled to make the 108 db, the most notable being the RX-792P. But the V12 Jags ran mufflers as well."
So interestingly the IMSA regulation was actually lower than it is now in ALMS. Currently ACO regs say 112 dB, measured 15 meters (about 50 feet) from the edge of the track.
They're planning to gradually reduce the limit to 110. It's already 1 dB less than in 2007/2008.
2000-2007 the limit was 110 dB but measured quite differently - at 3800 rpm or 3/4 maximum revs and at a distance of 0.5 m and in certain angle to the exhaust. This allowed a lot noisier cars though...
When the top speeds on the straight reached the magic nimbers of 400kmh / 250mph the governing body forced the organisers to take action.The 2 chicanes effectively split the straight in 3.The car designers were forced to abandon high speed aerodynamics for high downforce,slowing the cars even more.
The problem back in those days was Le Mans being part of the FIA sportscar world championship and FIA mandated a max. length of a straight.
Never the less actions would've been taken never the less by the ACO, as they've dropped Maison Blanche for the Porsche Curves, flattened Mulsanne hump and made the new Esses without FIA dictation
There'd been complaints for years about safety & rising speeds, but it was the FIA who mandated an arbitrary straight length. Ironically enough the 1990 race which introduced chicanes wasn't even part of the FIA WSC championship.
Regardless, Schlesser hit 250mph in 1989 qualifying, that was pretty much the last straw. And he didn't even like the track!
This year cars were doing times in the race faster than 1990 qualifying, even with the new esses.
Last four cars were Porsche, Jag, I think Mazda and Jag. The Cats sound awesome!!
BuzzDaTower 4 months ago
117 likes for a video which doesn't work, haha, Le Mans fans are dedicated!
lioHoil 7 months ago
convert it to a different format like avi or mpeg using koyote free converter, reupload it and it should work
brown9708 9 months ago
i reuploaded it, check my channel if the user fix this version i will delete it from my channel greetings.......................
Dimix85 10 months ago
This is the only video in history on the straight without chicanes. Please fix video
brown9708 11 months ago
U have to watch this vid on a mobile device or wii or another game system for it to work. Shit is gay!!
BYasrad 1 year ago
saw this vid ages ago, now it ain't working :( ! I wanna hear the rotary symphony of the mazda 757 again!
DannyBoySmith1993 1 year ago
Video not working
brown9708 1 year ago
Please re-upload this, so the rest of us can watch it. Thanks! :)
TheAutoholic 1 year ago
I happened to remember about this video, hopefully it begins working soon. You can't replace that raw sound and nostalgia, gives me goosebumps every time. One of the best Le Mans videos on youtube.
Fibonacci09 1 year ago
Why isn't the video working at all?
buttonisbest 1 year ago 9
@buttonisbest Beats me ,and its my video.
panhardrod 1 year ago
@panhardrod reupload or fix pls
nikhil88156 1 year ago
@panhardrod yeah, serious bummer. this is the best mulsanne footage on youtube.
rknapick 1 year ago
@panhardrod It seems like the 240p version is corrupted in Youtube's servers. I believe the wii pulls the mp4 version so that explains why it works for panhardrod. You should contact youtube or reupload it.
knut 8 months ago
@buttonisbest Even more bizzarley I've just connected a wii to the internet and it works fine ?????
panhardrod 1 year ago
what a great vid !
i nominate this for the next oscar(s)
best actors,best sound,best french blue jacket in the front, best relaxed monsieur gendarm and best tiny house near the track. wanna live there!
135erKrawallo 1 year ago
That first car sounded like a Lamborghini R-SV...
leylandcarsloverslea 1 year ago
AWESOME FOOTAGE
rdtli 1 year ago
the only thing to add here, is that the sound of these things driving by at over 200+ you cant help but say... HOLY SH... or FU...k because you have to understand the engineering for these beasts at these speeds are insane. Great video again.. lovin it.
JuergenGDB 1 year ago
Wicked sounds... I wished I lived at the house at 1:09 LOL The long straight is truly amazing and a testiment to the cars ability for sustained RPM and high speed of over 220+ mph. Miss those days.
JuergenGDB 1 year ago
Videos like this are the reason I love Youtube.
Absolutely EPIC!
Thank you so much for sharing.
reds005 1 year ago
One of the best LM videos on the net.
Orvieta 1 year ago
Is that somewhere around where today the 2nd chicane is? I heard from a relatively unknown spot there. Some kind of hotel or restaurant, but they charge 10 Euros parking fee - for every person inside the car...
I only made it to the marshalling post at the Hippodrome once, but the cars are far from topspeed there having just exited Tertre Rouge
Today the whole straight is patrolled by police and I bet it's the CRS "Hit first, ask then"
tommy9927 1 year ago
@tommy9927 The position is 320m before the start of the first chicane,access began to get tricky in the early nineties, before that it was a free-for-all.
panhardrod 1 year ago
I love this. Makes the hair in my neck stand up.
Thank you for posting.
palerider225 1 year ago
This video captures the good essence of the old Lemans, when the Mulsanne didn't have any chicanes, wow i wish i could've been in that race back in those days, i've been dreaming with going to Lemans since i was like 5 lol
sakaralakabar 1 year ago
pure awesomeness.
adalbero 1 year ago
wow!
PeterMayer 1 year ago
This video is amazing, the birds chirping along with the sound of raw power.
vikas 1 year ago
Amazing...
Blackhawk51806 1 year ago
damn, 2:48 - I was like uh-oh, here it comes - like a freight train that sucker is coming - Panhardrod - that must have been rush for you - holy lord
ratzinator1 1 year ago
@ratzinator1
and that car was probably going like 240 miles an hour so you could hear it from a mile away approaching the view - gets louder and louder and louder and vroom! that was insane - I should go there myself and get the feel of this - 7 Le mans races and I know the drama from Le Mans - the fear, the glory, the triumph, the speed, the endurance, ladies and gents - this is one bad ass mother of a race
ratzinator1 1 year ago
5:45 A.M.? i wouldnt be out there that early/late
johnsonx33x 1 year ago
@johnsonx33x Why not - watching the cars at dawn is magical. and because most of the people like you are still tucked up in your tents its fairly quiet :)
jonnymv94 1 year ago
was this before they put in the chicanes?
737captaineasyjet 1 year ago
@737captaineasyjet Yeah. Chicanes went in for 1990 race I believe.
OttoVanKopf 1 year ago
the Car at 0.52 is fire!!
Dimix85 1 year ago
Ok thanks :D
TopThrillDan 1 year ago
I have a question, what kind of camera were you using?
TopThrillDan 1 year ago
As mentioned earlier,the camera was a Sony CCD V-100E.8mm video tape meant that it was a lot smaller and lighter than the full size VHS cameras of the day but it still rested on your shoulder and you peered into a small black & white viewfinder.
panhardrod 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The sound and the picture for this video are for shit. Thanks for posting, but it sucks hard.
beeroosterm 2 years ago
@beeroosterm go fuck yourself
mppy938 2 years ago
This is the 22 years old video.
what do you expect for a great quality of today!?
For a video that old it's make its job
done great!
brainysnaeha 1 year ago
excelent vid,and that sound!!!!!!
thekeesie1975 2 years ago
This video is awesome, thanks for posting
GDH1981 2 years ago
Great video! sound is good to.
TopThrillDan 2 years ago
awesome sound
ThePureracing 2 years ago
@idontwanttoregister yup. fuck the fia. they ruin everything. thank god the fia doesn't control most of american sports car racing yet. we still have the good ol' scca over here, creators of can-am and trans-am, two of the best sports car racing series ever.
chipattack911 2 years ago 3
SCCA, in particular, and perhaps exclusively, SCCA Pro Racing, tends to screw things up pretty royally as well though.
redriverman2006 2 years ago 5
just awesome,imagine the 917 longtails in '71,they were hittin 240mph back then,wish there was some footage of the kink
kossoff1 2 years ago 2
They only achieved 240 (386 kmh) in private testing. In the 1971 race the 917 Langheck still did 224. Go to Mulsanne's Corner website and search for maximum speeds since 1960. The highest speed ever reached in the race was 405 kmh (252 mph) by a WM Peugeot in 1988 but it was pathetic in corners. The highest speed ever by a car in practice was 400 kmh by a Sauber C9 Mercedes in 1989, the year they won.
The best vision of 917s is in the Steve McQueen movie "Le Mans".
Camerameister 2 years ago
Jackie Oliver did 396kmh in the 917L in night qualifying in '71,Kenny Acheson did 408kmh in '89 in the C9 in qualifying where they unleash the boost and have longer gears
kossoff1 2 years ago
Not questioning your good faith or anything but I can find no reference to that. "Super Sports", Miura Publications, 1988 (ISBN 0-85429-689-1) says Oliver "only" did 240 (386 kmh) in a special test weekend in 1971. That was when they unveiled the new LH and the "Pink Pig". Mulsanne's Corner does not disagree. Sauber 61 (Acheson) did 400 kmh in practice, according to speed trap figures in Autotechnica Le Mans annual 1989 (ISBN 0 9512840 2 9). Mulsanne's Corner agrees.
Camerameister 2 years ago
I have since found one reference to the figure of 246 mph (396 kmh) at the 917 site but it does not quote the source for this.
I wish I could post a direct link to Mike Fuller's Mulsanne's Corner site. It's very good.
Camerameister 2 years ago
the 917 is my favorite car of all time. for porsche at least. the new audis, peugeouts and dysons are great too.
lemans24fan 2 years ago
Go to the 24hr Daytona in jan or feb every year. Plenty of parking and seats and cheap. They won't hit 230mph but it's not bad. It was better and faster in the GTP days.
brown9708 2 years ago
INCREDIBLE video. More more more please!
raceralexuk 2 years ago
absolutely awesome video!!!!
thanks for sharing :)
being able to have seen & felt the cars going by at that speed would have been incredible!!
rachet01 2 years ago
AMAZING! incredible sound and footage, great vid!
ngendro 2 years ago
PURE WIN!!! Thank God for Youtube or I would have never be able to seen footage like this!!
I sure hope those blokes watching had earplugs or something....
400SA 2 years ago 3
does anyone live in this house?
manAllesVergeben 2 years ago 3
Excellent video, just wish i had witnessed Group C at Le Mans.
bigsw2000 2 years ago
Amazing footage if you take the technology of capturing it into consideration, tyvm.
Orvieta 2 years ago
Thanks so much for sharing. Awesome video!
JessopVTS 2 years ago
WOW - @ 0:50, 2:18 and 4:31 the sound is INCREDIBLE.
@ 2:39 nice sounds from the back...
MPZRACEVIDEO 2 years ago
Hey people, when you're saying "so loud"... most of what you hear in this video is just distortion because the mic of the old camera obviously just couldn't take that kind of noise.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
As I say in the notes, the camera takes a break for a split second when hit by the electronic pulse of SOME of the cars but there is no distortion at all that I can hear.The video camera(Sony CCD V100E) was about as good as it got for a domestic model at the time and the sound on here is exactly as I remember it at the time,any body else getting distortion?
panhardrod 2 years ago
I don't know if distortion is the correct term but obviously the sound quality is not as good as it would be if you have had a time machine and a camera from 2000s... :)
Is this the only video like this you have? Please post more if you have.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
amazing !!! that's what racing cars should sound like
buistonend 2 years ago
Classic stuff. You can hear a car accellerating and changing up through the gears at one stage. Takes a while to pass once it reaches top gear.
liveundrums 2 years ago
And this was only taken from the cafe :)
jonnymv94 2 years ago
And now , when the LMP is getting interresting , the organization is changing the rules again (don't they ever learn from the past?). In the near future, all cars will sound the same. Back in the Group C era you could tell what brand it was just by listening to the engine! Great era!
2stroke4Me 2 years ago 2
Well lets just hope they are not all Deisels.
Was uo at Silverstone for the 1000k, a few weeks ago. Although the Audi is a fantastic machine, it was very dissapointing on the noise front. Motorsport could become very quiet, lets hope not. As you say Group C was by far the best. Silk Cut Jaguars, there will never be a noisy so sexy sounding again.
Just wish LMP could become as popular, as the racing last week was as good as anything i seen in the group C days.
bigsw2000 2 years ago
so loud and , NOOOOOO DIEEESSSEELLL
yehhaaa
jawangnese 2 years ago
MORE!!!!!!
MBC22CE 2 years ago
That had to be F@CKIN LOUD! I don't know what to say... I wish i was there
Jamirofan89 2 years ago
@ 0:53 what do you excpect? It's a 4-rotor Mazda engine ffs!!! & it sounds sxc!
DannyBoySmith1993 2 years ago
@soulwaxer,
The WM Peugeot did it topspeed run during the first half of teh race and was officially clocked at 252,5 mp/h.
Jan Lammers did 251mp/h during the race in light rain,on slicks!
The year after,Hans J. Stuck achieved just short of 254(unofficially) during nighttime qualifying...
Yep,those were the days!
GTfour01 2 years ago
Far out footage! I've forwarded this one to many allready. Soooo great !
One small 'but' though. You calculate a little about the travelled distance of the cars and the sound reaching the camera.
The sound is irrelevant. At 230mp/h,the cars travel at little over 115 yards a second(!),so it IS indeed 0.9 mile away...
Shortly after which the brakingzone for Mulsanne corner came.
Again,m-a-g-n-i-f-i-c-e-n-t footage mate! ;-)
GTfour01 2 years ago
...made my night that clip....magnificent !!bravo...
FM77 2 years ago
the wm pegeout did 251mph in qual that year. Le mans was great in those days the 80's were golden years never to be repeated.
soulwaxer 2 years ago
Wow, stunning. Sometimes I wish i'd lived through the 80's :P
nickyp28 2 years ago
I was there best Le Mans ever 88. Hans Stuck was a legend
soulwaxer 2 years ago
This clip is stunning. Incredible.
trahsub 2 years ago
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trahsub 2 years ago
back then, were there noise limit regulations at all?
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
None that I ever noticed,the noisiest car this year(88)was the 4rotor mazda which just piped the V12 Jaguar.The previous two years the triple rotor mazda would have been a lot worse but the worst I ever heard was the twin rotor which last ran in 1985.4am in the morning,a near deserted grandstand and the mazda changing up near the end of the pit straight was pure aural cruelty.The lack of valves in a wankel rotary were mostly to blame.The heavily turbo'd porshes were contrastingly civilised.
panhardrod 2 years ago
Must have been nice.
I've read that during IMSA GTP series did have noise limit regulations, 110 db I've read (but measured how?). That was probably because of so many street tracks.
But I doubt Le Mans and thus World Sportscar Championship had noise limits?
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
Late reply here, but they measured the GTP cars via trackside decibel meters. There's a story about James Weaver in a Dyson Porsche 962 which cracked its muffler and was going to be DQ'd because of excessive noise, so knowing where the little meter was he just went a bit off line and destroyed the device with his car :). I think that was at Del Mar...
waterpolodan 2 years ago 2
I've read that story. :) According to Mike Fuller (Mulsanne's Corner website) during IMSA GTP years the noise regulation was actually as low as 108 dB. But what is important how they measured it...
But since Le Mans (and World Sportscar Chamionship) had more to do with FIA and ACO and their regulations, IMSA's rules doesn't apply here. Also WSPC wasn't run on street cources unlike IMSA which might have explained the noise regulation.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
I found Mike's old post from Ten Tenths forums, about the IMSA regulation: "Track side, from a sound meter 50ft from the side of the car. And yes, many struggled to make the 108 db, the most notable being the RX-792P. But the V12 Jags ran mufflers as well."
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
So interestingly the IMSA regulation was actually lower than it is now in ALMS. Currently ACO regs say 112 dB, measured 15 meters (about 50 feet) from the edge of the track.
They're planning to gradually reduce the limit to 110. It's already 1 dB less than in 2007/2008.
2000-2007 the limit was 110 dB but measured quite differently - at 3800 rpm or 3/4 maximum revs and at a distance of 0.5 m and in certain angle to the exhaust. This allowed a lot noisier cars though...
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
@FormulaOneSpy haha dude i don't give a shit, i love it. i say, bring on the noise.
chipattack911 2 years ago
Simply awesome footage, thanks for posting this
BestyX 2 years ago
le mans mythos is destroyed because of the two chicanes
freestyljunkynr7 2 years ago
0:52 seconds look like one of the Silk-Cut Jaguars.
Preenline 2 years ago
the last one is a jaguar
freestyljunkynr7 2 years ago
The first car is definitely a Jaguar XJR9LM V12 howl!
cragmac1000 2 years ago
fucking brilliant video!
slartibartfast69 2 years ago 4
You happen to have more videos like this?
deggis4 2 years ago 2
Why did they alter The Mulsanne straight anyway?
Factnotfictionpeople 2 years ago
When the top speeds on the straight reached the magic nimbers of 400kmh / 250mph the governing body forced the organisers to take action.The 2 chicanes effectively split the straight in 3.The car designers were forced to abandon high speed aerodynamics for high downforce,slowing the cars even more.
panhardrod 2 years ago
I guess it had to be something like that, didn't it! Thanks for the info. :-)
Factnotfictionpeople 2 years ago
Sauber Mercedes C9 hit 408km/h in qualifying '89
kossoff1 2 years ago
The problem back in those days was Le Mans being part of the FIA sportscar world championship and FIA mandated a max. length of a straight.
Never the less actions would've been taken never the less by the ACO, as they've dropped Maison Blanche for the Porsche Curves, flattened Mulsanne hump and made the new Esses without FIA dictation
tommy9927 2 years ago
There'd been complaints for years about safety & rising speeds, but it was the FIA who mandated an arbitrary straight length. Ironically enough the 1990 race which introduced chicanes wasn't even part of the FIA WSC championship.
Regardless, Schlesser hit 250mph in 1989 qualifying, that was pretty much the last straw. And he didn't even like the track!
This year cars were doing times in the race faster than 1990 qualifying, even with the new esses.
Karibanu 2 years ago
the race died for me in the 90s when they cut the straight,also last years race was crap,bring back the c1 cars,its like a go cart track now
blade0954 3 years ago
go kart track? take a look at most modern tracks used in professional races (a la F1 calendar) and there are some sanitated "go kart tracks" for you.
amazing video btw.
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
I disagree on absolutely everything. These Pugs and Audis are damn quick, and Le Mans is still the center of the racing universe.
redriverman2006 2 years ago
sorry its not got the same appeal for me anyway ive been to le mans and loved it,its still good,just not as good as it was
blade0954 2 years ago