Greek Civilization, Women and Sappho

[rocoreb]

the fact is that she (Sappho) committed suicide for her love of a man by throwing herself of a cliff on the Ionian island of Lefkas (my place of origin). Of course this part of her story is conveniently omitted by the army of homoerotic fans all over the world. Why ruin a great lie over such a small detail hey?.....

[szabisy]

They try to dirty everithing was great in ancient world..for exemple you must heared the opinion that all greeks were homosexual..spartans atenians all..somehow I cant beleave it..It couldnt be like that..but if you watch discowery chanel you can find this opinions...

I was hapy to see your video: sparta either with...wher you show how spartan womans loved theyr man...and not "spartan man loved theyr man"(discovery version)

I think many of this intelectuals are themselfs homo thats why thay say

[Bitsiko]

@szabisy In ancient greece there was no shame of homosexuality. It was accepted and natural. Not all of them were homosexual but being one didn't cast you out of the society. Although i'm straight i can't stop admiring that. Ancient Hellas will always be in my mind a place filled with white light free of superstitions and demons, where to be worthy was measured by what you did, not whom you made love with

[panarkas]

@Bitsiko Είναι αλήθεια ότι στην αρχαία Ελλάδα οι ομοφιλόφυλοι δεν κρύβονταν όπως έκαναν σε άλλες κοινωνίες της εποχής εκείνης επειδή προφανώς φοβόνταν για τη ζωή τους. Όμως αυτό που είπες ότι η ομοφυλοφιλία θεωρείτο φυσιολογική και κοινώς αποδεκτή είναι εντελώς λάθος. Η λέξη που χρησιμοποιούσαν τότε για τους ομοφιλόφυλους το αποδυκνύει.

[szabisy]

"man take feminity from women" and "woman take masculinity from man and than loose themselves and that is how we losse civilization"

I think this is absolutely true...it is very nice sayd

in the presenet there are few societies witch are working we now well about the problems, how mothers leave theyr childrens and parents divorce so childrens dont grow up in balance so they become criminals drunkers and people good for nothing...

[szabisy]

I think man behavior has nothing to do with culturaly taught, just with our nature, for exemple: if you look at the exemple of the childrens(they dont have culture, it is still undeveloped in them) boys are playing war games and girls are playing with dols...it is theyr nature, it is built within us...

if man try to have femine values that is stupidity its like hunting birds with cannons, it is possible but absolutly ineficient and meaningles, same if woman try to be man

[szabisy]

I think it is all bcz women lost theyr feminity and took masculinity from man

we dont know what are the limits betwen man and women, woman behave like man and man like women

A society I know well and is working even in present is the indian society, they are wery aware of this things so they never mix woman and man, thay say: water is good, milk is good too..but if you mix them..so we need to keep its purity

I think that's why indian society is working, and ancient spartan society was also same

[qaplatlhinganmaH]

Greco-Buddhism, sometimes spelt Graeco-Buddhism, refers to the cultural syncretism between Hellenistic culture and Buddhism, which developed between the 4th century BCE and the 5th century CE

[hanrinch]

well the technology disadvantage also cumble the empire's last foundation when medieval knight slash through classic legion/hoplite like no men zone. swiss pike and steel axe/hammer smash the classic army into defenseless situation and made them like helpless animal in the slaughterhouse . plus the northern tribe are physically stronger than average roman/greek made them defenseless even in rome's height.

strength speaks the rule and domination.

[hanrinch]

they have their writing system that can push back to 4th century bc. they invented the first horse shoes, first steel plate armor, crossbow had been massively use by norman since roman-gothic campaign(270bc - 605ad). they started a military technology revolution that which would change the world completely. even modern day.

however they are lacked of architecture skill made them look savage and barbaric. but they just shown no interesting on building useless monument like other ancient world.

[hanrinch]

soxan and goths had pwn greek mercenary really bad back in campaign of andrianople and suffer heavy lose and sacked entire region during gothic war in 3~4th century ad. spartan hoplite did not work well against the newer medieval army that destroy the roman legion with ease. that is the timeline where the classic era end. where military technology and brutal strength starting dominating the history. norman axemen/swisspike rules

[TimoleonofKorinthos]

So, you don't think that the Egyptians or the Persians and the Lydians were civilised? And yet the classical Greeks scorned this kind of life-style, even of their Mycenean ancestors, not on the ground of material feats but of ideology.

[hanrinch]

only norman and goth/soxan are civilized. even the low end slavs are hella better than egypt and persia ever be.

[TimoleonofKorinthos]

Hey, you take your point of focus back to the very beginning, but I am interested as to why of the all forms of sedentary/civilised lifestyle the classical Greeks came up with the city-state and placed its ideal in the very core of their cosmotheory.

[poeforward]

Excellent work. Thanks for posting.

[judi219]

has someone the lyrics of this song??? in greek  or maybe translated at english...if someone has it, please send it to my channel as a message...thank u

[theinkbrain]

when different cultures come into contact with each other they cross pollinate. this is the natural course of things. why cant we just benefit from that and be thankful? what is gained from anger and hostility? there is sufficient strife in the world as it is. lets just listen to this song and appreciate the beauty expressed in this clip.

[BlackNMedBlaze]

Lesbians are beautiful I love to see girls kiss and eat each other out.

[Twycross]

Why don't you go chase your food around the steppe in west china you imbred sore ass turk?

[fggtgreeks]

"civilization" hahahahahaha

[Twycross]

It really depends on the teaching and culture of the people, again nothing biological. Western europeans didn't treat women all that well either. I personally don't view things like beauty and grace to be femenine qualities for example but say in America and west europe they are often seen as such.

[Twycross]

only biological difference really is child birth and male upper body strength. That's really it. Different scientists can have studies and contradict each other but we're all really in general the same, the differences lie in our individuality.

[Twycross]

The debate is meaningless when really it's just cultural. "Intrinsic" to me suggests a higher being's implimentation. From God there is none but free will. We are given our roles of course as fathers, as mothers, as priests, as priest's wives etc. But I think the video for me goes too far on that assumption.

Sappho has been hijacked by lesbian femanazis to put it in short.

[Twycross]

I don't think any value can be specifically male or female like attachment. Nor do I get the point of the lesbianesque type pictures. Other then that it was nice.

[balkancoolhead]

what a peasant vision!!!!!!!! ha ahaha...

[balkancoolhead]

perhaps you ought to reconsider the vulnerability of your world view, especially when you still employ words like "enemies" and "barbarians", that's madness.

if you accept that humankind is still learning about the universe and knows next to nothing, then you realize we are not enemies, we are in the same boat. we all seek more knowledge in order to learn to be truly free.

so i say to you, join the boat of bocari, of koloktroni, you don't have to make love to bouboulina, but respect her!

[balkancoolhead]

don't worry, the right people are always listening. ;-)

[balkancoolhead]

this is so moving. yasso arvanita!

[Princesshayuhi]

my dear friend, we always love your videos ,

great music !! 5/5 :)

[Kekogirl]

very clever.. good job yannh

[kozani07]

(yanitsaros)

ALWAYS COOL.!!

[bardisrethymno]

συγχαρητήρια!

[ellasAZ]

Wraio video file mou, opos panta, euxaristw!

[Laistrigonas]

loipon, 5* epeidi to video ehei oraies iparkseis..

[CilicianAri]

beautiful video yani!