How many of you have actually SEEN this game?! I just did, it's on YouTube, and there's really no need for all the big words here. It's a boring game for the first half hour, with both teams having only 1 chance, Liverpool missing theirs and Flamengo scoring. Then there's a lucky free kick, 2-0 and that's game over. Nothing spectacular.
A week after this game, Liverpool lost 3-1 at home to Manchester City. It doesn't say all that much.
I hate people who say Toyota cup was nothing.It was an special trophy,They gave the Toyota cup and the Intercontinental cup ,which was established in 1960.the most important thing.The Toyota cup was an international title recognised by Fifa.
So dont tell me it was an waste.Once on the pitch both teams wanted to win.You dont travel to Tokyo ,and then pretend you dont care.Its a shame they dont play it anymore.since 2005 every final has been european south american at fifa club world cup.
what am i smoking? obviously nothing as potent as what you are, coz you seem off your face! when you come back down to earth you will find lfc are, with five euro cups and three uefas are easily the third most succesful club in european history, and thats saying nothing of their domestic succes. any chance of your dealers number?
It is laughable when some suggets that it means nothing for the europeans. Watch the game and tell me that; the Liverpool players tried everything; but on that day Flamengo was just a class above
That particular Flamengo team really was the best in the world, but South Americans would do well to remember always that Europeans care nothing for the intercontinental cup. It means less than the charity shield to English people.
Its a nothing match they play under protest so you shouldn't gloat lol.
Well.. you have teams with limitless purchasing power and can purchase players from all corners of the world to make your team great. Means a lot for our teams from South America beating these "power house" Euro teams bc we beat you with our talent. Not with our wallets.
@boosra And the IC simply means another trophy for the trophy room for us. Besides that, a crap trophy played against shit teams from the old world is highly irrelevant. I would rather play an Asian team.
@boosra Yes, Liverpool cared nothing for the Intercontinental. Thats why Liverpool chairman in 1981, John Smith, said: “Make no mistake, we’ll be back and next time we’ll show what we can really do.” Because they cared nothing.
And nobody is gloating here. Just stating reality.
Not nothing. Sure they wanted to win it, but its a stone fact that most people in Europe never even knew the intercontinental cup existed. It was a non event here and a chore for the players.
Don't take it as an insult, Flamengo were clearly the best team in the world in 1981 and good enough to beat Liverpool in any context.
I was just giving a broad warning about putting too much importance on intercontinental cup results in general.
@boosra quite frankly i think this is just an excuse europeans make because they still think they have better teams just because they are richer and that is just bullshit. no matter how good a non european team is people will say they are not top notch because they arent an european team that is just ignorance.
Im a Liverpool supporter and have been since childhood. Liverpool are a legendary club, and were consistently the best side in Europe in that era. However against Flamengo they met their match. Even for Liverpool the Brazilians were a step up in quality. They had Zico for heavens sake! My Liverpool were good but
I'm from Rio, Brazil and a 35yo Flamengo supporter, although I was very young I remember that game. Zico to me was bigger than Maradona. Kudos for you MoeRocco75 for your honesty. In england I like Liverpool. Cheers!
@MoeRocco75 What the fuck is that shit you call liverpool? Sounds like a brand of pig. Legendary? Boca Juniors, Estudiantes, Flamengo, Santos, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Inter Milan, and Peñarol are legendary.
For that the English equipments(teams) not him(her) danban major importance this tilt? ... nowadays it is possible to understand for the great difference between Europeans and the rest of the world .... in this party(game) flamengo gain(earn) 3-0 .... for that to despise it? Tenian fear of being humiliated if they were taking it seriously or that?
¿por que los equipos ingleses no le danban mayor importancia este torneo?...hoy en dia se puede comprender por la gran diferencia entre europeos y el resto del mundo....en ese partido flamengo gano 3-0 ....por que despreciarlo? tenian miedo de ser humillados si lo tomaban en serio o que?
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Does a SUMMER CHAMPIONSHIP mean something? NOT.
You can say whatever you want, at the time, this tournament was not treated like a WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP, but like a friendly played in Japan ORGANIZED BY TOYOTA and with a CAR as prize, and not a Trophy. DO TOYOTA ORGANIZE CHAMPIONSHIPS? NOPE. SO, YOU CAN SAY YOUR BULLSHIT OPINION FOR WHO YOU WANT, THIS WAS NOT A WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO BE DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IS JUST A FRIENDLY!
not treated like a world club championship??well, take a look at FIFA's website...Flamengo has a World Club Championship title, from 1981....
Excuses, excuses....
no wonder why Brazil has the most World Cup titles...they have the best soccer players, and most of the times, when a brazilian team face a european team in the World Championship match, the brazilians win, like Internacional and Barcelona...
You're just pissed off and keep saying the old Toyota Cup is a friendly because Liverpool has yet to win an ACTUAL world title.
In fact, there's only one British team that has an ACTUAL world title whether it's the Toyota Cup or the FIFA Club World Cup and that's Manchester United who have two world titles.
So until Liverpool beats teams outside of Europe and wins ACTUAL world titles, you're just champions of Europe.
yeah, stay at home with mommy and don't venture outside the door, or you may find real talent; World Champions playing real football and yes, that is not a "meaningful trophy at home" since for real players there's nothing really meaningful at your home. There's no cure for blindness when one refuses to see...
Yeah, I bring it up because Manchester United are currently the only British team that has won a World title and still do well in their season
2008-09 for example, Manchester United won the 2008 FIFA Club World Cup and still won the League, the Carling Cup, went to the semifinals in the FA Cup and were runners-up to Barcelona in the UEFA Champions League.
Friendly Cup? BS!! Is the World Cup (countries) also a friendly in your views? We win in the club and off course the country level. A England has never won against a Brasil in the WORLD CUP! Get real and start adding some real talent to your lame league. And tell me when the last club won without a South American player? Did this ever happen? Correlation, Friendly or Hypocrisy?
Since when was the Toyota Cup anything like the World Cup? Face it, it's a cup we hardly care about, Liverpool even sacked it off twice in the '70s, as did Nottingham Forest.
Sure, past English winners either lose or decline to play the Toyota Cup, but only one has actually played in it and won the trophy: Manchester United.
we would rather win something trophie that actually means something Toyota Cup was a waste of time we had to travel halfway around the world to play it for starters
If it was such a waste, you shouldn't have gone at all. Also, last time I checked, England is closer to Toyko than Brasil is. Your point about traveling halfway around the world is moot. There is no shame in losing, you lost to one of the best South American teams ever assembled.
Yeah! when Liverpool went to play Sao Paulo they got their ass beaten again!Obviously didn't learn the first time around! European teams they're so good but when they play South American teams outside Europe they can't win, can they?
Flamengo era realmente o melhor time daquela epoca concerteza ganharia do time do Barçelona de hj
Gabriel81893 2 months ago
How many of you have actually SEEN this game?! I just did, it's on YouTube, and there's really no need for all the big words here. It's a boring game for the first half hour, with both teams having only 1 chance, Liverpool missing theirs and Flamengo scoring. Then there's a lucky free kick, 2-0 and that's game over. Nothing spectacular.
A week after this game, Liverpool lost 3-1 at home to Manchester City. It doesn't say all that much.
reltiet 9 months ago
I hate people who say Toyota cup was nothing.It was an special trophy,They gave the Toyota cup and the Intercontinental cup ,which was established in 1960.the most important thing.The Toyota cup was an international title recognised by Fifa.
So dont tell me it was an waste.Once on the pitch both teams wanted to win.You dont travel to Tokyo ,and then pretend you dont care.Its a shame they dont play it anymore.since 2005 every final has been european south american at fifa club world cup.
kallashah 1 year ago
flamengo, the best od world! the more bealtiful! the warrior !!! i love flamengo! you love flamengo!
EltonEditor 1 year ago
inter milan? dont make me laugh.
MoeRocco75 1 year ago
@supersonic...
what am i smoking? obviously nothing as potent as what you are, coz you seem off your face! when you come back down to earth you will find lfc are, with five euro cups and three uefas are easily the third most succesful club in european history, and thats saying nothing of their domestic succes. any chance of your dealers number?
MoeRocco75 1 year ago
England has always had shit football, shit teams, and shit coaches like the fat bastard coaching that shitty team.
What a waste of space on this tourney...I think even an Asian or Oceanian team might have been more of a challenge then the euroshits from Ingayland.
SuperSonicx1986 1 year ago
It is laughable when some suggets that it means nothing for the europeans. Watch the game and tell me that; the Liverpool players tried everything; but on that day Flamengo was just a class above
marbonjour 1 year ago
Flamengo is a maior torcida do World
gabrielfelipeBRASIL 2 years ago
FLAMENGO PORRRA !
Campeão Mundial de 1981 !
Brigado !
90Urubu 2 years ago
lol Zico owned Liverpool.
That particular Flamengo team really was the best in the world, but South Americans would do well to remember always that Europeans care nothing for the intercontinental cup. It means less than the charity shield to English people.
Its a nothing match they play under protest so you shouldn't gloat lol.
Still a great vid though, Zico was the best.
boosra 3 years ago
Well.. you have teams with limitless purchasing power and can purchase players from all corners of the world to make your team great. Means a lot for our teams from South America beating these "power house" Euro teams bc we beat you with our talent. Not with our wallets.
alexwribs19 2 years ago
@boosra And the IC simply means another trophy for the trophy room for us. Besides that, a crap trophy played against shit teams from the old world is highly irrelevant. I would rather play an Asian team.
SuperSonicx1986 1 year ago
@boosra Yes, Liverpool cared nothing for the Intercontinental. Thats why Liverpool chairman in 1981, John Smith, said: “Make no mistake, we’ll be back and next time we’ll show what we can really do.” Because they cared nothing.
And nobody is gloating here. Just stating reality.
invinoveritas32 1 year ago
@invinoveritas32
Not nothing. Sure they wanted to win it, but its a stone fact that most people in Europe never even knew the intercontinental cup existed. It was a non event here and a chore for the players.
Don't take it as an insult, Flamengo were clearly the best team in the world in 1981 and good enough to beat Liverpool in any context.
I was just giving a broad warning about putting too much importance on intercontinental cup results in general.
boosra 1 year ago
@boosra quite frankly i think this is just an excuse europeans make because they still think they have better teams just because they are richer and that is just bullshit. no matter how good a non european team is people will say they are not top notch because they arent an european team that is just ignorance.
airgear001 10 months ago
Props to MoeRocco for saying what others don't want to say.
Torneio de verão? Que eu conheço, só tem um, que é o torneio vencido pelo Corinthians sobre nossos eternos freguês. :-)
Skins4SB 3 years ago
torneio de verão, com mundial no nome e reconhecido pela fifa...td oq esse titulo de vcs nao é hahaha
andreh4eva 2 years ago
Im a Liverpool supporter and have been since childhood. Liverpool are a legendary club, and were consistently the best side in Europe in that era. However against Flamengo they met their match. Even for Liverpool the Brazilians were a step up in quality. They had Zico for heavens sake! My Liverpool were good but
Flamengo were better.
MoeRocco75 3 years ago 9
I'm from Rio, Brazil and a 35yo Flamengo supporter, although I was very young I remember that game. Zico to me was bigger than Maradona. Kudos for you MoeRocco75 for your honesty. In england I like Liverpool. Cheers!
ssenssel 3 years ago
@MoeRocco75
Brasil sempre!!!
Grande time com Zico mostrando que o Liverpool sempre foi fregues de brasileiro
Um dos maiores times de todos os tempos Flamengo- 81
Esses são os verdadeiros clubes do pais
São Paulo, Palmeiras, Santos, Gremio, Inter, Cruzeiro, Flamengo e Vasco
O resto nem conta
DaniloHenrique87 1 year ago
@MoeRocco75 What the fuck is that shit you call liverpool? Sounds like a brand of pig. Legendary? Boca Juniors, Estudiantes, Flamengo, Santos, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Inter Milan, and Peñarol are legendary.
What the fuck are you smoking?
SuperSonicx1986 1 year ago
For that the English equipments(teams) not him(her) danban major importance this tilt? ... nowadays it is possible to understand for the great difference between Europeans and the rest of the world .... in this party(game) flamengo gain(earn) 3-0 .... for that to despise it? Tenian fear of being humiliated if they were taking it seriously or that?
pompidu23 3 years ago
¿por que los equipos ingleses no le danban mayor importancia este torneo?...hoy en dia se puede comprender por la gran diferencia entre europeos y el resto del mundo....en ese partido flamengo gano 3-0 ....por que despreciarlo? tenian miedo de ser humillados si lo tomaban en serio o que?
pompidu23 3 years ago
flamengo rules!!
JRzonR 3 years ago
eu sou um londrino , eu amor flamengo e chelsea ......eu gosta tua bonita terra
mickey8971 3 years ago
who the fuck are liverpool ?
cjl501 3 years ago 2
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flamerda é lixo e copa toyota não é mundial
tiagopeace 3 years ago
Flamengo did the same thing to Real Madrid in 97, scoring 3 goals against European teams is just what Flamengo does.
moreblack 3 years ago
In Brazil this a Tournament like that is called Summer Championship. ;)
JustOneWanderer 3 years ago
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Funny that in the FIFA is saying: Toyota cup...
Oh, I've forgot! I can't say anything, because it's a excuse, huh.
You cannot argue with a FACT. ;)
And the fact is: The game was a summer championship, because of that Hansen were palying in Left Back, man.
And not just Brazil ''makes'' good players, AS YOUR MEDIA SAYS, MY DEAR...
JustOneWanderer 3 years ago
i thought it was played in december the world club cup has never been played in the summer
col06 3 years ago
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Does a SUMMER CHAMPIONSHIP mean something? NOT.
You can say whatever you want, at the time, this tournament was not treated like a WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP, but like a friendly played in Japan ORGANIZED BY TOYOTA and with a CAR as prize, and not a Trophy. DO TOYOTA ORGANIZE CHAMPIONSHIPS? NOPE. SO, YOU CAN SAY YOUR BULLSHIT OPINION FOR WHO YOU WANT, THIS WAS NOT A WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO BE DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IS JUST A FRIENDLY!
JustOneWanderer 3 years ago
not treated like a world club championship??well, take a look at FIFA's website...Flamengo has a World Club Championship title, from 1981....
Excuses, excuses....
no wonder why Brazil has the most World Cup titles...they have the best soccer players, and most of the times, when a brazilian team face a european team in the World Championship match, the brazilians win, like Internacional and Barcelona...
C03LH0 3 years ago 3
@JustOneWanderer
You're just pissed off and keep saying the old Toyota Cup is a friendly because Liverpool has yet to win an ACTUAL world title.
In fact, there's only one British team that has an ACTUAL world title whether it's the Toyota Cup or the FIFA Club World Cup and that's Manchester United who have two world titles.
So until Liverpool beats teams outside of Europe and wins ACTUAL world titles, you're just champions of Europe.
joesakic91 2 years ago
well, thats your fucking problem, not ours. If you pull out of the Champions League, the CL winner will not cry because you pulled out.
rogerpenna 3 years ago
Liverpool should win this year's Champion's League and maybe have a rematch with Flamengo in december.
libernull 3 years ago
its bollocks why do u milk a thing thats basically a friendly match during our season
so what if we did'nt win it i'd rather win something thats more meaningful like a trophy at home
col06 4 years ago
yeah, stay at home with mommy and don't venture outside the door, or you may find real talent; World Champions playing real football and yes, that is not a "meaningful trophy at home" since for real players there's nothing really meaningful at your home. There's no cure for blindness when one refuses to see...
pentawinner 4 years ago
the league is englishs teams main proity if u wanna learn something
col06 4 years ago
Simply a football lesson for Liverpool. Go home and try the next time.
Pitonto 4 years ago 3
don´t be such a bad loser
PsilocybeBRA 4 years ago 2
@col06
Give me a break.
Manchester United won the 1999 Intercontinental Cup over Palmeiras and still won the League title.
joesakic91 2 years ago
i knew united would come into this somewhere
col06 2 years ago
@col06
Yeah, I bring it up because Manchester United are currently the only British team that has won a World title and still do well in their season
2008-09 for example, Manchester United won the 2008 FIFA Club World Cup and still won the League, the Carling Cup, went to the semifinals in the FA Cup and were runners-up to Barcelona in the UEFA Champions League.
It's all about going for all major honors.
joesakic91 2 years ago
Liverpool distroyed by Zico and Co. The reds were crying.
Pitonto 4 years ago
Friendly Cup? BS!! Is the World Cup (countries) also a friendly in your views? We win in the club and off course the country level. A England has never won against a Brasil in the WORLD CUP! Get real and start adding some real talent to your lame league. And tell me when the last club won without a South American player? Did this ever happen? Correlation, Friendly or Hypocrisy?
pentawinner 4 years ago
Since when was the Toyota Cup anything like the World Cup? Face it, it's a cup we hardly care about, Liverpool even sacked it off twice in the '70s, as did Nottingham Forest.
duney 4 years ago
@duney
Sure, past English winners either lose or decline to play the Toyota Cup, but only one has actually played in it and won the trophy: Manchester United.
joesakic91 2 years ago
Skins4SB,
Very well put! :)
tombrbr 5 years ago
yeah your right but you have to admit its hardly the most important trophy to aim for the europeans treat it more as a friendly
col06 5 years ago
That's what I call a poor excuse not to admit a clear, evident, humiliating defeat.
Pitonto 4 years ago
i agree with pitonto
don´t be such a bad loser!
PsilocybeBRA 4 years ago 5
we would rather win something trophie that actually means something Toyota Cup was a waste of time we had to travel halfway around the world to play it for starters
col06 5 years ago
If it was such a waste, you shouldn't have gone at all. Also, last time I checked, England is closer to Toyko than Brasil is. Your point about traveling halfway around the world is moot. There is no shame in losing, you lost to one of the best South American teams ever assembled.
Skins4SB 5 years ago
liverpool sucksss
ruanrocha 5 years ago
Goooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal
efcmad 5 years ago
Yeah! when Liverpool went to play Sao Paulo they got their ass beaten again!Obviously didn't learn the first time around! European teams they're so good but when they play South American teams outside Europe they can't win, can they?
DrMindBender76 5 years ago
you should have pulled out of this one..hahahaha
Skins4SB 5 years ago
yeah really.
daca 5 years ago
Galvão Bueno narrando esse título é de arrepiar! Eu tinha 4 anos e nem me lembro de como eu comemorei.
Saudosista80 5 years ago
uhuuul.
lucasx 6 years ago