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  • so what if someone slips out of their seat?

    lol

  • @ledzelda9...what the hell are you saying?!?!?

    Roxas IS Sora's Nobody. He is Sora's body. When Sora stabbed himself, his heart went away, but Ven's stayed within Sora's body. Sora turned into a Heartless, while his body animated into existence. The only reason why Roxas can feel emotion, and experience emotion is due to having Ven's heart inside him. He has no access to Ven's memories, only his Keyblade once Xion dies.

    Ventus' body is still hidden within Castle Oblivion, no other place.

  • @tanner3619

    ... Ledzelda9 makes more sense, but what you said is more than likely what happened.

  • just to explain, roxas IS ven, he is told that he is sora because xemnas knows the truth and doesn't want him to know, roxas isn't actually a nobody which is why he can feel, at the end of bbs, ven's heart enters sora, when sora releases the princess hearts, he releases tens as well, sora doesn't have a nobody because his body was brought back to his heart when he met up with kairi, ven's heart went on without memory and he was told he was roxas, thats how it happened

  • it's from 358/2 days and i think he edited the scene so instead of xigbar or xaldin (couldn't remember which one) it is roxas. i can't believe no one noticed and im not even japanese( indians from india rule).

  • @chibi66lol it's from day 30 sumthing idk it's titled 'sora'

  • what "day" in the game was this scene in? i know i saw it there but i dont remember...otherwise id need to play trough every day of the game

  • one person didn't know where babies came from.

  • How the hell did I go from Southpark to this? Lol but KH FTW

  • I undersand: nothing...

  • Xemans: when sora released his heart at hollow bason you were born.

    Roxas:.....-_-

  • aw rly? =/ bummer, i thought i figured that part out xP;;

  • in this game ther is a bbs connection.

    oh so roxas is call ven.

  • ty. i wanted to see what it looked like in Japanese. im learning it so i could understand a good amount of it. ty

  • Castle Oblivion was NOT created my Namine, in birth by sleep you find out that castle oblivion was originality the land of departure the home world of Terra, Aqua, and vens master. After there master was killed and Vens heart was shredded aqua needed a place to hide ven. So she hid him in a room in the land of departure and locked the world turning it into castle oblivion. The further you go into the castle the more memory's everyone will lose, EXCEPT Aqua who is stuck in the realm of darkness

  • @gprat1989 that explains why axel didnt remember sora or namine for that matter

  • yeah I mean that is ven and terra just through a serious of odd events, and he did talk to aqua. I am trying to see how they pull this series off , I think it would go past my highschool years but its about to LOL.

  • English please???

  • he was talking to aqua play kingdomhearts birth by sleep unlock the final story then watch the movie or sence they was tricking u on 358/2 days

  • the first few events of 358/2 also happen during the events of CoM thats why a couple of the Organization members disappear, The Organization were in castle Oblivion under orders of Xemnas to find the room of rememberance which ven lies in, Xemnas created kingdom hearts for 1 of two reasons, following the path of Xhernort or 2 trying to restore his fallen friend ven's heart.... Ofcourse most of this was probably just blown outta my ass oh look i ran outta space to type...

  • @VentusUnbirth why Namine says that she created the castle by her on? she knows where ven is?

  • @alexheart uhh can you fix your comment its a bit hard to understand.

  • @VentusUnbirth In chain of memories axel said that Namine created the Castle, Namine even said yes/not well... somehow yes, because she is part of aqua and is a WICHT, explains even if a little?

  • -sighs- are you idiots? it's translated when he says "Sora", and that's what the vid was about

  • *Sigh* Add learn to read Japenease on 'Things to do List'

  • Yeah, but at one point Xemnas goes something like, "So sleep has taken you yet again." Or at least in the english translation he does. It's not a cutscene with voices, just a passage. Xemnas HAD to have been referring to Ven, right?

  • translation:

    Xemnas: And that's where babies come from.

    Roxas: ...

  • hey i though the guy that was sitting at the birth  by sleep was ansem the wise or someone but not xemnas.(hey wait does that mean aqua talked to xemnas)?

  • @iraklismg Birth by sleep is out you know. and youtube exists for a reason.

  • @iraklismg it is Ansem the Wise sitting in the Realm of Darkness

  • @iraklismg nope, ansem was in there on the begging of his research, another thing is, in the time of roxas was in the realm of darkness, ansem was Dix

  • Could someone be so nice and PLEASE TRANSLATE THAT?!?!?!?!

  • OH! Everything makes sense now....

  • @anythingnew hahahahaha

  • @anythingnew i guess org13 is happy for you

  • 28 people understand japanese

  • What mission is this after?

  • @Roxas131413 And I just played it again...I figured it out. Yippee Xemnas.

  • I don't get this!!! I played bbs but still it don't make sense!!! How in the world did Xemnas know where Ven is? Terranort LOST his memories!!! NOT TO MENTION AQUA IS THE ONLY ONE WHO SHOULD KNOW since SHE was the only one who saw Ven for the last time!! Plz someone explain to me How Xemnas EVEN knew the name of the room and Ven's location... I'm so frustrated!!

  • @LANXDSHADOW ten years is a long time, man. it's pretty apparent that Xemnas, if not the heartless, remembered at least some of his time as Terra during that interlude. as for the rest... anything could have happened. maybe it's left up to fan imaginings, or maybe it'll be explained later. -shrug-

  • @LANXDSHADOW I'm thinking Xemnas spoke with Aqua, taunting her, like saying he would let her out of the realm of darkness if she would tell him where Ven is, so that Xemnas could go about reforgin again the X-Blade

  • @juicebox90000 wow, just spoilt the game buddy.

  • when was this scene

  • WE CANT READ JAPANESE RETARD

  • @KidRoxas12 Then go learn it moron.

  • @Roxas131413 man stfu you need to learn some to fuckin dickhead

  • @KidRoxas12 Excuse me? And how much do you know? Considering that half-assed txt tlk, probably not a lot. Too has TWO 'oo's, by the way.

  • @Roxas131413 I Know more than you can imagine faq

  • @KidRoxas12 Yeah, I can believe that. *sarcasm*

  • @KidRoxas12 Why are we arguing? There is probably an English or German version of this...somewhere.

  • @Roxas131413 Trust me theres not i looked

  • @KidRoxas12 Wth? I could've sworn I found it somewhere. Maybe it's on a KH website. like KH13.com, or KHvids.net.

  • what is up with everyone using japanese!?

  • but why ventus looks like roxas and vanitas laki sora but if roxas is sora WHAT THE ***** I'M SO CONFUSED someone can explain me?

  • @difjsohf in BbS Sora fills the hole in Vens heart, as Vanitas is the darkness in Ven, he ends up getting soras face, and Roxas looks like Ven cause in the end Ven puts his heart in Sora, in kh1 when sora gets turned into a heartless Ven is seperated and becomes his nobody, and then named Roxas by Xemnas

  • For some reason, I'm still not convinced he said "Sora." It is possible that Roxas only believes that Xemnas called him Sora. Having played every game to date and knowing Birth By Sleep's story, I can say that Roxas barely has anything in common with Sora other than that they are the same age and that they care about their friends. Also, Xemnas remembers being Terra, which is why he sent Axel to Castle Oblivion so many times to search for Ventus and also why he revisits Aqua's armor.

  • @SaveUsBTP I don't think Xemnas (Terra's part of him) thinks of roxas of anything except sora's nobody. He was probably surprised to see ven's face at first, but I think he realizes it's not ven. Remember, Roxas only looks like ven because sora and ven's hearts connected, in the end, Roxas is still Sora's nobody. Not Ven. Xemnas (Terra) wants to find the room of awakening so he can find Ventus.

  • @austin830dawg havent you seen that scene when roxas fell asleep for a lot of days in the game well in that scene xemnas goes to roxas' room and says ''i cant believe you fell asleep again my friend''

  • MAN~! I hope Square Enix will make a North America and Japanese version in the same time

  • Roxas's true name is Ventus

  • @MsIRONmaiden1 No. Roxas=/=Ventus. Roxas only looks like Ventus, but isn't Ventus himself.-____-;

  • i always thought that xemnas said: ventus

  • Lol every time Roxas's name popped up in the speech box to show who's speaking at first glance every time I thought it said dirt.

  • Terra + Xehanort = Young xehanort

    Young xehanort becomes a researcher of the heart, discovers how to make heartless, experimented on himself making Ansem seeker of the dark(which look like a young version of master Xehanort), later discovered that when heartless are made other beings are also created from the bodies without hearts, the Nobodies, so its like young xehanort divided by 2 is equals to ansem SoD and Xemnas.

  • Well, I really enjoyed this... IF I COULD HAVE READ IT!

  • OH! everything makes sense now lol

  • [major spoilers]

    Well, Xemnas in a way is connected to Terra. Think about it... Terra's sentiment only remembered the hatred and anger he felt toward Xehanort. And later in KH2, Xemnas talks about how all he remembers are rage and hate.

    Funny how the Terra/Xehanort theory happened to have been true!

  • @TheRPGPlayer Its not funny.

    It didn't really take a large leap of logic, after all, at the end of the secret ending, it shows that Terra has the same hairstyle (just shorter) and the same orange/yellow eye color as Xehanort

  • Okay, not literally funny come on... -_-

    Terra doesn't really have the same hairstyle... and yellow eye color is common, it's not just Xehanort's. I honestly don't think it's as obvious as people say it was. After all, when I watched the secret ending I laughed because it seemed like Terra's face magically transformed to look like the scientist Xehanort. Sure the hair is similar... but the faces weren't.

  • @TheRPGPlayer i didn't mean the exact same hair style

    but seriously, just look.

    Terra has his hair in three plaits?(whats the word for the way he styles it?) each consisiting of 3 spikes, and with the back slicked back.

    Xehanort has his hair in 3 plaits, each with 3 spikes, and the back is slicked back (just longer). the only real difference is the color, and the fact Xehanort has those wiers whisker like things on the side of his face.

  • I know they look similar. But it could have always been coinsidental. And Terra's FACE itself (in terms of how it moves and whatnot) is different and somehow transforms out of nowhere when he puts on the scientist suit. Also the fact that his eyes (when Xehanort possessed him) suddenly went from Yellow to brown even though Terra's normal eye color is blue.

    Still... after Birth By Sleep, Xehanort suddenly became the most complicated villain ever!

  • @TheRPGPlayer Xehanort was always complicated...look what he did to Eraqus...he wasn't always like that, something in his past drove him insane. Like the people i the legend, everyone had light, until peopl got selfish over it...and that greed created darkness, Master Xehanort, his heartless, Vanitas, Xemnas, Organizatio XIII, all crave the same thing...KINGDOM HEARTS and what is behind the door.

  • @holyfuck444

    He wasn't always complicated. In KH1 he was just an evil leader of Radiant Garden called Ansem. THEN KH2 made him complicated by saying his name isn't even Ansem, but is Xehanort and that he was a betraying scientist who became a Heartless and has a nobody. THEN in BBS they say Xehanort is an old man who possessed Terra's body which becomes the Xehanort who we know today.

  • @TheRPGPlayer He was complicated before Kingdom Hearts I eve happned...he made it his business to study the keyblade wars, the battle over light, the greed, study why people wanted kingdmhearts, what kingdom hearts could be, what is behind the door, he made vanitas make ven strong so they were equal t create he x-blade toopekingdom hearts...he made kairi and sora meet to see the outcome of a keyblade master meeting a princes of heart.

  • @holyfuck444

    ...You're misunderstanding me. I'm not talking plot-wise. I'm talking about in terms of the audience. Think about it... when you played KH1 years ago, did you ever think Ansem was a guy named Xehanort who was actually possessed by an old man named Xehanort? No you wouldn't. That's what I mean. I'm saying in terms of what is revealed, Xehanort just becomes more and more complicated.

  • @TheRPGPlayer I know ! I'm glad it's proven so people can stop the ridiculous theories thinking Xemnas was someone else...really dumb far fetch'd theories that Xemnas was from Riku or Ven, Sora's Dad, or like Sora/Riku from th future ...some really silly stuff.

    To be honest you don't need to play Birth by Sleep to know who Xehanort.

  • xemnas barely has any or little memories of his past. thats why he acts so weird sometimes. hes trying to make it look like he has a heart but its not really working. he remebers small stuff like aqua his exparaments but thats about it

  • people search up bbs secert ending and evrtyhing will make sense???

  • did u guys watch bbs????? xehanort took over terras body. which would make another person that person is xehanort student form. (kh 2 mickey has a flashback of him) and he made a nobody and it created xemnas!. geeze

  • @thedoortoolight exactly

  • Heartless existed before when MX ordered the neoshadows to attack ven and weaken him so he could create Vanitas

  • i already knew he said sora my lil bro thought he said "fool"

  • ven joins with sora..and..thats kinda how..when sora gave up his heart..roxas looks like ven(IM NOT 100% sure tho but thats what i think after i saw the kingdom hearts BBS ending)

  • One theory: Ven can maybe be someone Sora knew and his memory was activated as Sora's nobody's looking, roxas' looking,

    The Master Xemnas' (the old man in KH BBS) apprentice can be Xemnas (the silver hair man in kh2/1, leader of Org. XIII) , as Xemnas' nobody already "stolen" a name, Ansem's name

  • they are ready found the apprentice name so it cant be xemnas

  • How can that be when Xemnas didn't exist until a year after KH BBS?

    Nobodies and heartless never existed until Ansem's apprentices created them, 1 year after Birth by sleep.

  • no heartless existed

  • No they didn't. If nobodies didn't exist, how do the heartless exist? -.-

    Both are created when someone gets their heart taken away! If one doesn't exist, the other can't as well.

  • @XwARnINgXxXERRoRrX heartless existed. as well as so did nobodies. for example. lea was normal in kh 2days n den in kh com he is a nobody...i believe heartless n noboides existed its jus nobodies werent widely known or they jsu didnt say anything. its jus lik wit alot of games n shows. they dont say everything at once. however, riku does mention noboides a couple times in kd com while it was never mentioned

  • And heartless were only created -after- Xehanort and his buddies experimented with the darkness of people's hearts. :/

  • It's possible that within Castle Oblivion, in one of the hidden rooms, Ventus was converted to Non-existent matter, and it somehow found its way into Sora, and eventually, became one with Sora. That's probably why Sora's been having these strange thoughts, lately...

    Like, is any of this for real, or not?

  • @2101995eu xemnas is terra's nobody

  • @blackw16 nope xemnas is master xehanorts nobody

  • xemnas looks nuffin lik xehanort....he looks more lik terra.....jus my thoughts..could b wrong though...but neither heartless ansem nor xemnas look lik master xehanort datz y i said its terra nobody

  • xehanort took over terras body which made him look the way he was as a scientist for ansem the wise.(mikey has a flashback where it shows him) and so he made a nobody and thats why he looks like xemnas

  • @KeyPhoenix  wrong dude

  • @EDT3themonkey did i ask your opinion? no i did not so shut up

  • @KeyPhoenix no need to be mad and you corrected that dude

  • @EDT3themonkey sorry i misunderstood

  • @KeyPhoenix its okay dude

  • he's terranorts nobody. xehanort and terra formd together..

  • @thedoortoolight spoilers your not right but i see how see that SPOILERS i warned you

    its just terra

  • how am i wrong?

  • 1 problem I CANT READ JAPENESE

  • @brent592 i understand baka and things like that...WHEN THEY SAY IT!I CANT READ IT EITHER

  • @brent592 THEN BUY THE ENGLISH RELEASE!

  • passed it like 10 days ago in english

  • cant read!

  • Xion is a clone of Sora gone wrong,because Kairi was a strong memory in Sora she was shaped into Kairi. Ven,Aqua,& Terra I don't really know about however,they do show Org.13 having Aqua's armor.

  • They also show Xigbar having flashbacks of Ven. in 358/2 days

  • alot of the orgianzation members were close friends or knew eachother. Axel/ Sai'x knew eachother b4 even becoming nobodies. the orgianzation or at least the ones that are the oldest probably knew ven through just by meetin him or through other pple possibly

  • ven was trapped inside sora for some apparent reason (i have no clue,wait till birth by sleep.) that is why roxas looks like ven and thats also why he doesnt look like sora that much (ex. xemnas looks just like the picture in kh2 in radiant garden.)

  • nooo when someone looks at xion its different for each one

    for example

    -when saix looks at her all he sees is a hooded figure, thats why he calls her a puppet

    -when xigbar and probably xemnas looks at her they see ven

    -when axel saw xion he saw the hooded puppet but later on he sees her face

    -roxas saw her as a hooded puppet then herself and finally sora

    xion is just basically a replica

  • They see her as lik a part of sora however they onli know that part of sora so dat could possibly b the reason they see differently. itz lik not knowing a gurl is a killer but ur friend introduced her 2 u n u thought she was hot. u only know wat sum1 told u

  • @HLGToys axally xion had a blank face until roxas and soras memories

  • Xion is a clone of Sora made by Xemnas in case Namine wasn't able to repair Sora's memories.

    So far all we really know about Ventus is that he has a connection with Sora somehow...

  • no... Ven can't be sora's child because Birth By Sleep is Before Events Of "Kingdom Hearts 1" This is hinted because The trio Sees Young Riku and Sora on destiny island, They meet Cindrella, aurora, and Snow White before Malificent kidnaps them, And The Events when They Fight that Man "Maybe Ansem" At the end Of Kingdom hearts 2 Is when they die, Setting the light For Kingdom Hearts 1.... So making it Very So Impossible that Ven Is Sora's Child

  • GOT THE GAME DAY 99!

  • IVE GOT THE GAME!!!!

  • tommarow its here finally

  • when dose birth by sleep come out?

  • Im gonna take a guess and say that that thing that was with Xehanort, you know that was fighting Ven, that might be Xigbar's heartless.

  • about time too man!!!!

  • Guys guess what!! The Game is coming out this month!!!  YESSSS!!!!!!

  • YEAH Next Week

  • hmm i agree with kari7 this scene just shows what xemnas said from the first scene. he said sora. there may or may not be a birth by sleep connection. we definitely don't know right now so we should just stck with what tetsuya has revealed and of what has been revealed (:

  • well i guess well just have to wait and see to tell u the truth we will have to play birth by sleep because Ven makes an apperence in 358/ 2 days

  • err really? are you sure you're not confusing him with roxas by any chance O.o? lotsa people do that that's why i'm asking...

  • i can show u a video of ven in the game

  • hmm....ok i guess...show it to me

  • it is in 358 obviously u havent seen the the part where xigbar sees xion as ven and axel sees her as herself so play it again and pay attention xion was made from sora/roxas' memories she doesnt really exist what are u talking about i have the game dammit

  • i belive its day 354 ill get back to u tho if im off

  • No its just that why would they show Ven in 358/2 days...Xion is made up off Sora/Roxas, then why is she being seen as Ven, unless in Birth by sleep Xigbar as a human and not a nobody is in it...

  • to be honest idk its one of those things we are gonna have to find out in coded and birth by sleep

  • I think it shows that Xigbar, before getting nobodied, knew ven

  • Ven himself doesn't show up, but for a moment Xion turns into Ven because Xion takes on the form of different people in other persons memories.

  • actually tomodachi means my friend...so get your facts straight kari.

  • When did I said that it didn't?

    First of all, I knew that Tomodachi means my friend, but Xemnas doesn't say that to Roxas, he said "Sora". This scene is a revelation of what he said in the the first cutscene.

    Second of all, Tetsuya Nomura revealed that this scene happened in Roxas mind, so it never actually happened.

  • Question is though why would it happen in Roxas' mind? I mean why would he think of that?

    It must still have alot of significance considering the sheer number of times it's cropped up. It's in the KH1FM Secret Movie, KH2, KH 358/2, any others I missed? It's significant - very significant IMO, even considering he didn't say friend.

  • He didn't say it never actually happened. He said it did, but in Roxas's dream, it turned out differently than the real conversation. So this is more mixed with Roxas's own thoughts and confusion.

    And while Xemnas did say Sora, both Roxas and him are connected to Ven. When you compare the scenes, it's too much of a coincidence. Two people who we theorize connect to Terra and Ven, the same pat on the shoulder (with the same echo as in BBS at that), Roxas turning his head a little...

  • @heimster08 u do realize when terra became xehanort(xemnas) he lost all his memories, right?

  • wait what? where is this scene from?

  • there is a new kingdom hearts game thats coming out in america in 2 months, but already released in japan, thats where this scene is from.

  • i already played 358/2 days -_-, i just talking about when did this scene happened

  • i dont suppose you would know how to or know anyone who does know how to translate the conversation between them

  • Actually...

    Aren't there TWO cutscenes that involves this? There's this one, where he clearly says, "sora".

    But there's also a longer version, completely seperate when they're on the beach in the dark. On that cutscene, he does mouth "tomodachi" when he places his hand on Roxas' shoulder.

  • I know that scene. However, I'm pretty sure this scene is a revelation of what Xemnas said: Sora.

  • true, but without knowing the context around it due to not being able to read japanese, it's very hard to tell everything.

    Honestly, he could've easily said friend, but used his manipulative Xemnas ways to make Roxas recall the scene and something else.

    Then again... Xemnas could be blabbing on about ponies while Roxas daydreams of being touched by his man friend. :P

  • LOL, I don't understand NOTHING of Japanese and I know the kanji of Sora. It's just pay attention to the dialogs, mainly in FM+

  • No, he said sora. The kanji are those of "sora".

  • is this the d.s version? please respond!!!

  • Yes, it is.

  • there's no other versions.

  • It really did look like he said "tomodachi" but the real interesting connection is Xigbar

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