@SolomanVain That is like saying a church trombone choir in the 17th century is the root of a New Orleans brass bands. The instrument does not make the genre, but rather a larger subset of typical modes, rhythms, and feelings.
Awesome video. The history of electronic music goes back further in time than most people think and is much more interesting than many realize. Thanks!
@toborexperiment It depends on what you call electronic music. The Tellharmonium, & later the theremin and such were the basis of music made with electricity- even though most of what people were playing would b considered 'classical' music. The roots of what people call electronic music r like that of a tree, w/ so many sources coming together to produce a tree with many branches. What I think of when I listen to electronic music is minimalism and efforts of ppl at BBC like Delia Derbyshire.
The other problem I have with this documentary is the complete and utter lack of mention of the mere existence of automatic musical instruments of the time such as coin-operated pianos and orchestrions, which indeed were QUITE SUCCESSFULLY used in public places such as restaurants, hotel lobbies, etc. etc. to provide background music instead of live musicians. Instruments popular circa 1905 include the Wurlitzer Pianino, Harp, and PianOrchestra, and Welte Orchestrions.
Incredible stuff. This was the point when electronic music and the live performance of electronic music truly started. It must have been an exciting period back then.
Even if the music is only speculative, it's a fun listen. But I think we could figure out what it truly sounded like by, very simply, building a new one. Can't be that hard, can it?
No sound recordings of the telharmonium exist unfortunately says the book ' Electronic and experimental music' by Thom Holmes. who knows? maybe one day one will be unearthed?
Well, I can't be fooled...that's most likely a Yamaha FM instrument emulating all the Telharmonium sounds...too perfect and clean for a tonal device 100 years old. Still, a great bit of history! Thank you.
@adrifromhh No, the accounts said it had a much more complicated sound and was able to emulate several sounds of the orchestra. Cahill's controller was not unlike a pipe organ console and had multiple keyboards and different switches for turning things on and off (not unlike the stop controls of a pipe organ).
hey thought there were no recordings of this instrument ?
'wikipidia: Although no recordings exist of the Telharmonium, observers reported that its sound was very clear and pure — probably referring to the sine tones it was capable of producing'
but cool documentary ofcourse :)
maybe edit the info or did cahill realy became over 160 years old ? :P
gues you are right but hearing this sound again im am convinced it is an modern recording maybe an interpretation of how the maker thinks the machine sounded like..
I suppose if enough photos, schematics, etc. exist someone could build another one. It's really too bad that all three were apparently sold for scrap.
Being familiar with the music of orchestrions and fairground organs from the era, I'm pretty sure that the instrument must have sounded MUCH richer and fuller than the dinky track that was created for this documentary.
Still, it's better to have this than have nothing, although I seriously doubt anything of Scott Joplin's would have been played (his music wasn't very popular at this time, and even "Maple Leaf Rag" was not as well-known as it would be somewhat later).
from what i've seen...because the wheels had square thooth's the probably sound like a square waver form.. but early experiemnts might have used mechanical gear whaeels ( gears from machine industry) whish has a triangular a-llike thot's making triangular sound waves... all camtured from the "pickup coils of course
later... the hammond organ usd a similar system.. but the hammod used varius tipes os tooth tipes one of them like a round wave a-like... making the sound sinewave.. mutch like a pipe organ... and thats what the hammond organ does perfectly.. and outher sound of course
This is a very in-depth documentary of arguably the first ever electrical/electronic synthesiser. Even by today's micro-chip standards, this giant is an incredibly mind-blowing piece of greatness. It's hard to even imagine!
Indeed it's amazing how the synthesizer, the loudspeaker, the theremin, iTunes, and the electric organ are all virtual successors to this piece of late 19th and early 20th century innovations in electronics.
Great documentary. One thing that was left out that I read in Analogman's Guide to Vintage Effects that Cahill's intent was to broadcast his mega-contraption over telephone wires to paid subscribers. Unfortunately every subscriber would obviously hear the same piece of music. I also would have liked to know when and why it eventually failed. Not only is the Telharmonium considered the first electronic musical instrument, but it's also an instrument with effects, another first ahead of its time.
Fantastic! No doubt the Telharmonium was the precursor to midi, mp3's, mpeg, 8-track, and all the other digital music media to follow! Groundbreaking technology. This should be on Discovery channel or History channel. Thanks for the video! 5 star for you my friend.
i was just reading about this on wikipedia. this thing could emulate woodwind and string instruments. its astounding that something like this existed over 100 years ago. no real recordings of it exist unfortunately :(
The world's first electronic organ. Too bad it didn't survive the invention of radio.
douro20 3 weeks ago
Very Cool!!!
musikopino 4 months ago
I really wonder what the Telharmonium sounded like.
9MinamiKe6 4 months ago
Anniversary of 120 years of electronic music, where I think these songs to download? amazing, I love history review
accarvalho79 4 months ago
wow, analog synths are much older then i ever have tought !
thePOLYGIRL 6 months ago
Who's narrating this?
dayveo 6 months ago
Música electrónica en linea desde 1890. Grandioso!
Tanoos 6 months ago
like every music genre has his roots, this is the roots of dubstep
SolomanVain 7 months ago
@SolomanVain That is like saying a church trombone choir in the 17th century is the root of a New Orleans brass bands. The instrument does not make the genre, but rather a larger subset of typical modes, rhythms, and feelings.
dumbo800 5 months ago
Synthpop not of 80's but 800's ahah ah
admi908 9 months ago
for the record, $100,000 then is over millions in today's dollars, and multicasting on a scale IPv4 can't handle? 110 years ago? genius!
qaliqo 10 months ago
for the record, $100,000 there, millions in today's dollars, and multicasting on a scale IPv4 can't handle. genius!
qaliqo 10 months ago
Awesome video. The history of electronic music goes back further in time than most people think and is much more interesting than many realize. Thanks!
23Henrich 11 months ago
Eu gostaria que alguém fizesse um documentário sobre o Telarmonio em português
De preferência o português do Brasil
paulodebelem 1 year ago
Very interesting but the soundtrack is horrific
MrFaceHead 1 year ago
So this is where it all began. The roots of electronic music. Awesome
rici22 1 year ago
@rici22
well these were just tech novelties... like the theremin, the trautonium and so on...
the real roots of electronic music belong to german serialism and franch musique concrete..
toborexperiment 1 year ago
@toborexperiment It depends on what you call electronic music. The Tellharmonium, & later the theremin and such were the basis of music made with electricity- even though most of what people were playing would b considered 'classical' music. The roots of what people call electronic music r like that of a tree, w/ so many sources coming together to produce a tree with many branches. What I think of when I listen to electronic music is minimalism and efforts of ppl at BBC like Delia Derbyshire.
jonnda 1 year ago
@jonnda
it's not a question of what I call electronic music...
The development of technological means for music is a bit something else from the development of electronic music language and techniques.
The Thelarmonium was just an Hammond Organ ante litteram...
toborexperiment 1 year ago
@toborexperiment both of you (toborexperiment and jonnda) are roughly saying the same thing, but labeling the notions differently
ahmettc 8 months ago
The other problem I have with this documentary is the complete and utter lack of mention of the mere existence of automatic musical instruments of the time such as coin-operated pianos and orchestrions, which indeed were QUITE SUCCESSFULLY used in public places such as restaurants, hotel lobbies, etc. etc. to provide background music instead of live musicians. Instruments popular circa 1905 include the Wurlitzer Pianino, Harp, and PianOrchestra, and Welte Orchestrions.
KawhackitaRag 1 year ago
1) Where did you get all this information?
2) What are these sounds actually from? Just synthesizers?
Envergure 1 year ago
Incredible stuff. This was the point when electronic music and the live performance of electronic music truly started. It must have been an exciting period back then.
ajittffcure 1 year ago
Even if the music is only speculative, it's a fun listen. But I think we could figure out what it truly sounded like by, very simply, building a new one. Can't be that hard, can it?
CaptainSiberia 1 year ago
This documentary feels as antiquated as the Telharmonium is.
eggbertsmith 1 year ago
such a funny presentation.
murmur54kbr 1 year ago
The Hammond Organ is about as close as one can get to the sound of the Telharmonium, same principle to produce the tones.
Xerox6085I 1 year ago
Generally, Cahill's idea was the same as modern music radio.
virulentwestie 1 year ago
the beginning of electronic music genre
The Telharmonium .
hanzotk 2 years ago
Very interesting!
albear972 2 years ago
underself is correct. There are no recordings of this amazing instrument... Cahill was waaaay ahead of his time. I own this movie on DVD! :)
DomiBabi3 2 years ago
i like the devil's voices in the background
Ticonderogavids 2 years ago
Ahhh...the first additive synthesizer utilizing electricity. Cool!
Voltor07 2 years ago 9
No sound recordings of the telharmonium exist unfortunately says the book ' Electronic and experimental music' by Thom Holmes. who knows? maybe one day one will be unearthed?
underself 2 years ago 2
Well, I can't be fooled...that's most likely a Yamaha FM instrument emulating all the Telharmonium sounds...too perfect and clean for a tonal device 100 years old. Still, a great bit of history! Thank you.
yermyahu 2 years ago 3
interesting and cool music^^
TechnoTec7 2 years ago
This sounds so much like an organ, i think it must have sounded much simplyer
adrifromhh 2 years ago
@adrifromhh No, the accounts said it had a much more complicated sound and was able to emulate several sounds of the orchestra. Cahill's controller was not unlike a pipe organ console and had multiple keyboards and different switches for turning things on and off (not unlike the stop controls of a pipe organ).
KawhackitaRag 1 year ago
hey thought there were no recordings of this instrument ?
'wikipidia: Although no recordings exist of the Telharmonium, observers reported that its sound was very clear and pure — probably referring to the sine tones it was capable of producing'
but cool documentary ofcourse :)
maybe edit the info or did cahill realy became over 160 years old ? :P
Eligroen 2 years ago
Don't trust anything you read on Wikipedia.
wolzek 2 years ago 2
gues you are right but hearing this sound again im am convinced it is an modern recording maybe an interpretation of how the maker thinks the machine sounded like..
Eligroen 2 years ago
@Eligroen Yes it is.
I suppose if enough photos, schematics, etc. exist someone could build another one. It's really too bad that all three were apparently sold for scrap.
Being familiar with the music of orchestrions and fairground organs from the era, I'm pretty sure that the instrument must have sounded MUCH richer and fuller than the dinky track that was created for this documentary.
KawhackitaRag 1 year ago
Still, it's better to have this than have nothing, although I seriously doubt anything of Scott Joplin's would have been played (his music wasn't very popular at this time, and even "Maple Leaf Rag" was not as well-known as it would be somewhat later).
KawhackitaRag 1 year ago
@KawhackitaRag Not well known?? It sold over 1,000,000 copies as sheet music
nubient 10 months ago
it must be replications of it's sound, if for any other reason than the sound quality would have a lot more imperfections than this.
s0m3w0n2 2 years ago
from what i've seen...because the wheels had square thooth's the probably sound like a square waver form.. but early experiemnts might have used mechanical gear whaeels ( gears from machine industry) whish has a triangular a-llike thot's making triangular sound waves... all camtured from the "pickup coils of course
joaorp 2 years ago
later... the hammond organ usd a similar system.. but the hammod used varius tipes os tooth tipes one of them like a round wave a-like... making the sound sinewave.. mutch like a pipe organ... and thats what the hammond organ does perfectly.. and outher sound of course
joaorp 2 years ago
the bob moog of the 17th century :)
tetavo 3 years ago
Imagine where we'd be if nobody ever invented the transistor...
Envergure 3 years ago
Amazing, incredible, yet another proof that electronic music will keep evolving.
DeRex9 3 years ago
orgasmic~
udy69 3 years ago
We need a VST version!
UncleFeedle 3 years ago 24
haha... we'd have to guess how it sounded first, then somehow make all it fit in Abletons window :)
audiolemon 3 years ago 8
hahaha YES
liedowninthelight 2 years ago
@UncleFeedle LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!
9856359 1 year ago
The foundations of analog synthesis.
translinguistic 3 years ago
before of vacuum tube technology , all mechanical,,, man its fantastic...
guimbadriver 3 years ago
This is a very in-depth documentary of arguably the first ever electrical/electronic synthesiser. Even by today's micro-chip standards, this giant is an incredibly mind-blowing piece of greatness. It's hard to even imagine!
ajittffcure 3 years ago
Indeed it's amazing how the synthesizer, the loudspeaker, the theremin, iTunes, and the electric organ are all virtual successors to this piece of late 19th and early 20th century innovations in electronics.
BonwoK 3 years ago
It's iTunes!
harryshand 3 years ago
Great documentary. One thing that was left out that I read in Analogman's Guide to Vintage Effects that Cahill's intent was to broadcast his mega-contraption over telephone wires to paid subscribers. Unfortunately every subscriber would obviously hear the same piece of music. I also would have liked to know when and why it eventually failed. Not only is the Telharmonium considered the first electronic musical instrument, but it's also an instrument with effects, another first ahead of its time.
dwemmy 3 years ago
I'll take one! will u giftwrap??
paulbrockenhagen 3 years ago
Fantastic! No doubt the Telharmonium was the precursor to midi, mp3's, mpeg, 8-track, and all the other digital music media to follow! Groundbreaking technology. This should be on Discovery channel or History channel. Thanks for the video! 5 star for you my friend.
biggsebiggs 3 years ago
i was just reading about this on wikipedia. this thing could emulate woodwind and string instruments. its astounding that something like this existed over 100 years ago. no real recordings of it exist unfortunately :(
eyepatchinc 3 years ago
This is such an incredible story. I actually had to do a quick check to make sure it was for real.
TheFacelessWarrior 3 years ago
Great Video! One for the ol' Electronic Musician's Library next to the Moog Movie and Theremin An Electronic Odyssey. Ill be ordering one soon.
Eric
Rhythmicons 3 years ago
That music is ten times better than rap.
Maigus 4 years ago 3
What isn't?
ignoxious 3 years ago 3
wow. That's pretty awesome. I want to play one now... hehe
the1intellect 4 years ago 2