Now Obama needs to Legalized Marijuana for Industry and medical use and we will be in good shape. :). I bet Legalization would be better than the Health Care for the economy.
We need reform... we badly need it my friends.. my wife is from canada, and their healthcare is great, my friend dior from france they have the best care... ours has been so broken down, denying coverage to our citizens, kicking them off insurance when they get sick... its in human you never let your citizens suffer, we fight and die for our stripes, why should we be left to die? So the republicans can but their kids new cars, beef up their banks? "FUCK THE REPUBLICAN SKUM BUCKETS"
I'm french and we have for over 60 years health care system now. I would like to tell you that it is the best thing that your president could have done for America.
Today if you are sick you can be treated like any other americans rich or broke.
You were talking about charity I don't think you should see it like that. It's more about solidarity. You are helping your country and your country is helping you back when you need it.
About the abortion part. That you are against it or not, it is your opinion that you have the right to have (As it is writen in your constitution) it is your freedom of speech. And even if i disagree with you on your comment you have the right to speak . Well it's pretty much the same for abortion.
I explain when you have a right you are suppose to be able to use it or not use it. If you can't afford abortion while it is a right then is it really a right ?
I'm just saying that if you have a right you must be able to use it or not use it. By paying abortion with the health care system they are making this right being really egal for everyone. Because if you are rich you can afford an abortion but if you are poor you can't and that's not fair !!!
I'm happy for america today because 10 years from now you all will realize how good it was for your country
Mate if you don't make 500k or more a year why in the world are you against this bill? are you an idiot? or pretending to be armycourt1979? This bill is a great thing and I support it ! We are in debt your right. But the US helps other countries why not help your own? especially something like health insurance! People shouldn't go bankrupt (hard working people) because of medical bills. This bill will make sure that health insurance co. don't abuse their policies. I don't get it mate, you ppl
Abortion is legal anyway, people get abortions through private insurance, so I don't know why that is an issue, and I don't know if illegals are covered in this bill. A previous bill said that it would not cover illegal immigrants but even if it did, do those people not deserve health insurance? They are taken advantage of in this country, they work and pay taxes in this country, and they are simply people to.
Son, you are too young to understand the implications of this bill. By young I mean you haven't been around the block, you don't have a family(wife and kids), you've grown up in good times.
This is a bad idea. You'll HAVE TO buy some gov. approved form of insurance. General practitioners will see their incomes reduced because the gov will cap the cost for their svs. These guys barley make 100k to run a business.
All this bill does is kill competition and increase cost. Recipe for disaster!
Now if the goverment passes this bill fully the the private insure is currently at 3.6 percent denial of claims and the united states gov is at 6.8 percent
i have more for u message me i would love to educate you so you can better understand what you are looking at
look iv got cancer and i dont think my insurance covers prexcistance like my cancer so if this does not pass i probley will die so you tell me what you think i want
Well maybe you should have bought health insurance BEFORE you got sick you fucking idiot. Cancer does not explain your terrible spelling though. Die you uneducated liberal troll scum.
Im from New York City, how is that redneck? Why do people make such a big deal when someone uses the word nigger? Its a magic word that turns black people into dumb violent beasts. Grow up, get an education, and please get a job. 15% black unemployment is funny as hell but I am still paying for your unemployment benefits and healthcare.
1. I have a job 2. Just because you are from New York doesnt mean you arent a redneck. 3. I have an education...very good one at that. You dont pay for my healthcare you idiot. Get a life and stop trolling, because you are not funny nor smart nor entertaining. Just dumb.
"Nigger" has been considered a derogatory term for 30 years, pal. If you weren't aware of that, you might want to consider taking your head out of your ass. It's people like you who make Americans look bad. Honestly. What have your kind ever succeeded in the history of our country? The KKK? Too bad that went out of style 100 years ago.
I dont know....you tell me....because im not a liberal. But tell me this....why are conservatives racist as fuck? If you trying to be funny...please find another profession. This is not working for you....at all.
@Armyscout1979 it is funny. you can call me a nigger, that really funny it is. and i can call a sister fucking pasty face cracker. lol no harm done. racism is funny
He's just a stupid cracker face bitcch.. fuck republicans, and fuck the democrats who didn't vote for the bill... it passed because we need reform and it will pass!=).
Dude. It seems like you got a good heart. Most people are generally confused by this bill. Depending on the news coverage you watch and the controlled media snippets you receive. It all seems to be fine and dandy. BUT DIG DEEPER. This is communism/socialism incarnate! This is being forced. No choice. FASCISM. Stay looking for the truth, take nothing at the surface level.
I see your point of view and I'm taking into account the fact you said you aren't really into politics but i just want to point out a few things. Low income families already receive gov healthcare(medicaid and schips) on top of that if you get badly injured a hospital is NOT going to turn you away. This is why hospitals are so expensive here. I'm glad you feel good about helping others but wouldn't it be better you donate on your own and not have the gov rob your neighbors? Ever been to the DMV?
I'll throw out one last point in our discussion. America was founded on the idea of limited gov. Our Constitution allows for it to cover defense and what is generally good for the people. I think health care for all could fall into that. But many decades of gov. overstepping thier bounds has left a very sour taste in our mouths. Thanks for the civil debate. I enjoyed it.
A mandate requiring all individuals to purchase health insurance would be an unprecedented form of federal action. The government has never required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States.
Should it pass the next round, the GOP will get the Supreme Court involved. I doubt that we'll ever be subjected to the mandates in this bill.
It's easy you douche! 1.3 trillion dollars is simply not affordable. The "people" you speak of making 500k a year are the assholes that'll employ your immature ass. It's simple, taxing the people that crate jobs, kills jobs! Just ask a veteran how the VA hospitals take care of them. Decision made!
I rather have the government to help me then die on my own without healthcare of any kind. I got denied of having a MRI done today because I didn't have $1800 fucking dollars to have it done. And I have serious problems too. Not only that, I have ADD, ADHD, OCD, dislexia, nerve problems, anger problems, suicide problems, and no job either.
Suicide Problems? DONT DO IT! I have had plenty of people in my family take that way out...not worth it. Gives you and family to much pain.
I have asthma, sever allergies, IBS, and i get really bad headaches once inna while. I cant find a job either and I have been looking for one for over a year now. I have no health insurance and would love to see this bill pass. Just worried what would come out of it.
Oh yeah. I had been hospitalized from it a couple of weeks ago. I got denied of SSI because I didn't have enough of problems...or didn't seem to be the type to have problems in front of a smartass judge. I got turned down the first time, re-appealed it, year and half later, had the same thing happen again. Then attempted suicide, and so, now I'm having it re-appealed to the highest court. Not only that, I have the other problems aswell. So, it's complicated.
I understand...but what I'm trying to say is... don't take that way out. Life is hard and always will be. I'm sure theres people that love you and don't want to see you go.
I am against this bill as it is now. I feel that the bill has too much pointless fluff added to it. Personally I think they went way too fast when writing the bill. Rome wasn't built in a day and health care can't be reformed in a year.
But you got to think of it this way...People were rushing them. They were in a hurry and impatient. Especially Republicans. So its like alot of people looking over your shoulder to cheat off of you on a test, its gives alot of tension stuff like that... Weird comparison I know. lol
wow some of you guys are such fucking haters of obama, grow the fuck up i fucking hate how some republicans try to bring the black man down: it took bush 8 years to put us in this shithole and you want6 him to make miracles its only been like a year so chill the fuck out
What I can't understand is how people think that somehow the Gov have this "evil" plan to control everything and that Obama will become a dictator. Do you guys honestly believe that?
The Gov are trying to do what they think is best for the country. Now whether or not it's the correct way to go about it is an entirely different topic altogether. I'm just trying to figure out how people think that the Gov' is out to get us and control us etc.
It's not Obama. The people are just making more noise now. Liberty in this country has been eroding for a long time now. It has happened under every U.S. president. More and more legislation=less and less freedom.
Thats how I feel. I like Obama, I dont think hes a bad guy, and dont think hes out to control. My opinion, people are just afraid that they will loose power. Especially Republicans. I dont like the Goverenment, but its nothing but lies and false appearance, but I dont blame the gov for everything in this country. People are to blame as well. They just dont want to admit it. Stand up and be heard! Volunteer or feed the hungry. If ur not apart of the solution, ur apart of the problem!!
Sending Americans to jail for not buying into a government program, funneling the country into rationed medicine, and dictating government control over the populous through their health... who wouldn't want that!
5.4%... can't wait to hear the horror stories from ppl that just hit that mark and own a business or have financial commitments. stealing from the rich and giving to the poor is false charity. im poor and don't have to worry about that but its still foul.
could they do it again. imagine a future where the politicians keeps snatching percentages from the rich/mid class. financial system collapses.
im just as lost as you man. all i know is that most politicians and gov officials nowadays are corrupt and only care to win elections. i say gov cant be trusted right now since they put us in this situation in the first place and now their trying to drain peoples money for a quick money solution in this bill. calis suffering alot from this temporary recovery method and i would hate to see this gov trend to be applied nationwide through healthcare.
First...don't trust a word that comes out of Nancy Pelosi's mouth! She pledged that 72 hours would be given to the public before the vote...that did not happen. In addition, the public really has no idea as to all the exact details in this bill...what are they hiding from us?When it gets to the Senate it has no chance of passing!
Look at how people voted in Jersey and Virginia last week...people are waking up!
I am against it. One reason. Gov. control. The topic doesn't matter. Health care or making snow cones. The gov. wants to control it. I wish everyone could have free health care. However, nothing is free. If the gov. would stop with taxing us to death then we could afford more charitable giving and not for profits could help those without health care. Then more people get coverage and we all can stay a free people. Make no mistake. What liberty we have left is fast eroding. It's not going to stop
so you're saying you dont want police, firedepartment, schools, roads, spaceprogram, military, watersuply, ... . this is all goverment controled. the only difference is that you are used to the goverment controle this and not yet healthcare. if all these things were done by private, PROFIT DRIVEN companies, im pretty sure you would be paying a lot more. the goverment doesnt aim for profit, they actualy aim for the providing of the service.
I realy dont understand americans who dont want this.
The basis for the American way of life is a self reliant people. I know that sounds crazy to a lot of others around the world. There aren't many here that believe it anymore. The gov doesn't have to be profit driven. It can just print money until our currency is worthless. Some of us here do trust a true free market. Our market has not been a real free market in quite some time.
My point is this. The more the gov. legislates, the less free the people are. In America, most of us feel that it's not a good trade off. The gov can never deliver what it promises. It always costs WAY more than what the tell us. And we lose liberty. It's a loss all around.
if you want liberty, you need to cancell a whole bunch of you're other laws, like some of those anti terrorism laws(just pointing out that you are willing to give out libery if the reason is good enough). i think giving up that little of liberty is worth getting a health ensurance. i live in belgium, with its goverment run healthcare, and i still feel free. extra question : why is company controle better then governement controle? the governement is kinda a company, no?
Completely agree on the anti terrorism laws. Many will give up liberty for what seems to be a good trade. It's never agood trade for the people. If I don't like what a company is selling then they don't get my money. The gov. can take my money whether I like what they're selling or not. That is the differance and it's a big one. We have gov. health care already. Medicaid/Medicare. I'd rather they expand those then completely change the system.
if you have companies provinding a service, they set a min cost for a service, if you cant pay, you get nothing (the company doesnt mind). if 1 company has a monopoly, it can set any price it wants. we have laws(goverment controle, anti liberal) wich ensure that monopoly doesn't happen. companies are not afraid to do immoral things for profit and important services should thus be gov. controlled so everyone can always count on them.
you democraticly choses what gov. does with your money.
We don't choose how our money is spent. We might kick and scream but the gov. does what it wants. I can see your point of view. However we will never agree becaues you trust your government to do right for the people. I do not have that trust in my government. I also think that charities and not the government should be in the business of helping those that are without. Reliance on the gov. does not make a strong people. It primes the people to fall under tyranny.
i also see you're point of view (the liberal view and that laws create less freedom). gov. is far from perfect, for sure, but their intentions are good and its not easy pleasing all the people you have to make desicions for. so the gov. has a pretty hard job, and what i hear about obama, is that he is willing to make the hard and sometimes unpopulare desicions. that shows me he looks at what's good, instead of what is good for him.i hope you give him your trust and lets hope for the best.
Bill bars Illegal Immigrants from receiving payments for health coverage!
but.......lack of a citizenship verification system creates loophole
They can can close this loophole in the senate ...... so its still a good bill technically. They say "no illegals allowed" But never ask or check.
So it is still against the law, law that is not enforced. This bill at least gives 36 Millions Americans health coverage no matter how you look at it.
Good Point, but im still worried if it will make us more in debt. We are in a recession and using this $1.3 trill...i just dont know what think right now.
Do you realize that a person who doesn't comply with this bill will be fined and/or imprisoned? This bill is just another step closer to communism. The Democrats WANT big-government control of our lives. It blows my mind how brainwashed the Obama-bots are.
its good to see a younger person thinking about this stuff. I hope your anwsers will come to you. Myself, I look at it this way. You dont give the federal government more control over anything. are founding fathers set things up for small government to protect us from a ruling class. the federal government is suppose to do minimal. doesnt matter if its left or right their are crooks on both sides. Im all for small government.
ithink you shouldnt have to choose left or right, democrat or republican. its so dumb that americans choose one party and follow everything they say. we americans need to think for ourselves. not watch cnn and fox and other stations, but look at the facts. facts are facts, and we need to observe and think for ourselves
I didnt choose either. Like I said in the video, I dont know what side to choose. I do think for myself, hence the reason why I made this videos giving my opinions.
What your saying is that it's ok for someone to just quit working and suck on the government tit, because now the "rich" daddy on the otherside of town is gonna pay for their doctor bill?? Wrong, rich daddy will make less money and be in a lower income bracket. This along with a couple other "bills" will lead to armed revolution. The first shot was fired last night.
No, thats where you misunderstood. I think people should still work obviously. I know there will be some losers that will "suck on the gov tit" as you put it...but not all. What I was saying is if I was rich and paying taxes, and the taxes I pay went to low income people, most of who need and deserve it, rather than lazy ass people....that I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Then we can disagree to agree. My initial statement complained about shortages, which you attest to. There is no waiting list in America, even for the uninsured facing fatal injury or illness. I have my own opinions on how the American system needs to be improved, but an NHS system is not one of them.
That trough social programs and overspending America has gotten into unbelievable debt. Since this was done without an NHS, any argument against the NHS is somehow void? It's like telling a guy who is going bankrupt with credit card debt to finance new furniture...
And we have private health care in which you pay a premium for in order to get 1st class treatment if you can afford it. I think this model is the best way of doing things, having both public no frills attached NHS and private frills attached health care services.
I'm against it, everyone I talked to from England hates that we are moving in this direction. A friend of mine needed a surgery at 15 and had to wait till 25 when he moved to the states due to shortages. Health care will be rationed, it will be exploited, and it will become inefficient.
The NHS is an excellent health care service, if the government decided to take it away they would have a revolution on their hands. Do you even know what you're talking about?
First, why don't you explain how the NHS is an "excellent health care service". I don't mean in words, but by providing evidence, statistics, and public opinion. 2nd, are you implying that dependency on social programs is evidence of a good thing? Enlighten me ;)
I cannot give you evidence, I can give you a personal opinion. I live in England and have used the NHS many times. I have had one major operation free of charge. I have had many docotrs checkups and appointments free of charge, I have been given at home nursing care after my operation free of charge. I have had friends and family have excellent treatment free of charge.
You have personal experience with the NHS. Why do you think that so many English immigrants in the US complain of the NHS, and shortages, waiting lists, and limits in care? Is it true that the elderly are denied? What is your opinion of Daniel Hannan? Lastly, how is the economy affected by the NHS?
We have both public health care in which you will get treated free of charge you are put in a line to be treated that's probably why people complain about the waiting but that is expected. Can you imagine if you took all the people in America without insurance and possibly may die because of that fact, do you think they would say that they would rather wait for health care or would they say "no way, I am not waiting"
I have never heard anyone I know have any problems with the NHS. Everytime I have used the NHS it was quick, friendly, reassuring and it always "fixed me up" I don't have to worry about getting injured or sick if I don't have health insurance. I just pop to the hospital for a while get treat properly and come home fully recovered. Honestly I feel that once you experience the NHS style of health care you wouldn't complain about your health care reform.
PG 25 and understood the implications, enough to vote against IMHO (2) INSUFFICIENT FUNDS.—If the Secretary es timates for any fiscal year that the aggregate amounts available for payment of expenses of the high-risk pool will be less than the amount of the ex- penses, the Secretary shall make such adjustments as are necessary to eliminate such deficit, including reducing benefits, increasing premiums, or estab lishing waiting lists.
If this bill goes into law then over the next yr over 5,ooo,ooo jobs will be lost! this will happen becouse, why would you pay for health insurance when you can get it for free! this will put major strain on privet insurance killing jobs by the millions! should you be concerned as an amarican???? yes!
Im just interested because of what I tole you before, not having any health insurance. Im just hoping that this helps me out as well as others that need it.
Plus, I pay attention to politics only because I want to be..."less stupid" when it comes to this stuff. Theres still alot I have to learn. Hence me making videos trying to understand it.
I'm glad that this passed. First, deficit spending is how we've always gotten out of recessions. Even Reagan did it when he tripled defense spending. Second, this will eliminate the concept of the pre-existing condition and should regulate rescission. Third, it will assist in trust-busting the insurance companies that control 85% of the market in some states. There's countless other reasons and I don't have enough space here.
Funding for abortion? LMAO Illegal immigrants getting healthcare from a system they'd need to pay into to get it? Aside from the fact that adding 19 million people to this plan would make the premiums so much lower, LMAO Not really laughing though because its a shame you spent this much time making a video just to look incredibly misinformed on the matter. Frankly, I probably spent a fraction of the time you have on the subject and I feel like I know significantly more than you do about it.
This bill will require all to have health insurance. If they do not have health insurance, they get jail time and a fine. I would be all for this if it wasn't for the draconian requirement. But our govt is saying "If you don't go along with this bill, you are a criminal."
THATS THE THING ITS LIKE THEY meaning OBAMA waant to turn us into criminals !! The government should not be involved in healthcare that much,,im all for affordable caps on doctor payments and insurance caps but hell not going to jail if you dont have insurance im tempted not to get the shit on purpose,,,,move to the hills buy a bunch of guns then go to washington and have some fun!!! OBAMY here we come!!!!
Absolutely nowhere will you find any language in this bill that makes it a crime to not have health insurance. No one is going to be arrested/jailed for not acquiring health insurance. What you will find is, if a person decides to be lazy and not get off their ass long enough to go find out what coverage they can get and decide what plan they want, they will be fined up to 2.5% of their gross adjusted income for each year they fail to sign up for insurance. For most people it will cost nothing.
hey man, heres what i think, i think it should pass, i,m,o. , everyone should have the right to healthcare, no one should be told they cant afford to live... and like you said illegal immigrants, i work with illigal mexicans and they are some of the nicest people i have ever met, and very hard workers, the least they deserve is health care considering they work thier asss off for min. waige.. so thats what i think mulatto
Yeah, some illegal immigrants are very polite, hard working people. But its the illegal immigrants that arent that make a bad name for them. I understand that people come here to make a difference in their lives, but at the same time...they come here illegally. Some take jobs that low income americans need. For the illegals that do thisand dont care....those are the ones I dont like.
Dont you know that hospitals cannot turn away ANYONE who comes in through the emergency department ? We have to take the uninsured and illegal aliens as well! It is the law...... I am so tired about hearing about how some groups are not getting healthcare! OMFG !!!! Do you have ANY idea how many of the patients I see at work are uninsured? or are illegal aliens ( who speak no English)?? These groups don't pay JACK SQUAT.... why the F---- are they complaining? unfknblvbl.....
Emergency rooms to have to accept disadvantaged people, but guess who pays for it when the patients can't. You do. Everyone does. This practice is partly responsible for premiums being so high. This practice raises the cost of health care.
However, emergency rooms do not provide chronic treatment. People with cancer cannot go to the emergency room to get chemo-treatment. People with epilepsy cannot go to the emergency room to get medication.
Now Obama needs to Legalized Marijuana for Industry and medical use and we will be in good shape. :). I bet Legalization would be better than the Health Care for the economy.
VulcanXL 1 year ago
We need reform... we badly need it my friends.. my wife is from canada, and their healthcare is great, my friend dior from france they have the best care... ours has been so broken down, denying coverage to our citizens, kicking them off insurance when they get sick... its in human you never let your citizens suffer, we fight and die for our stripes, why should we be left to die? So the republicans can but their kids new cars, beef up their banks? "FUCK THE REPUBLICAN SKUM BUCKETS"
networkingdefence1 1 year ago
hey MulattoBrothaGW !!
I'm french and we have for over 60 years health care system now. I would like to tell you that it is the best thing that your president could have done for America.
Today if you are sick you can be treated like any other americans rich or broke.
You were talking about charity I don't think you should see it like that. It's more about solidarity. You are helping your country and your country is helping you back when you need it.
tiria16 1 year ago
About the abortion part. That you are against it or not, it is your opinion that you have the right to have (As it is writen in your constitution) it is your freedom of speech. And even if i disagree with you on your comment you have the right to speak . Well it's pretty much the same for abortion.
I explain when you have a right you are suppose to be able to use it or not use it. If you can't afford abortion while it is a right then is it really a right ?
tiria16 1 year ago
I'm just saying that if you have a right you must be able to use it or not use it. By paying abortion with the health care system they are making this right being really egal for everyone. Because if you are rich you can afford an abortion but if you are poor you can't and that's not fair !!!
I'm happy for america today because 10 years from now you all will realize how good it was for your country
tiria16 1 year ago
Mate if you don't make 500k or more a year why in the world are you against this bill? are you an idiot? or pretending to be armycourt1979? This bill is a great thing and I support it ! We are in debt your right. But the US helps other countries why not help your own? especially something like health insurance! People shouldn't go bankrupt (hard working people) because of medical bills. This bill will make sure that health insurance co. don't abuse their policies. I don't get it mate, you ppl
KathysLaw 1 year ago
Abortion is legal anyway, people get abortions through private insurance, so I don't know why that is an issue, and I don't know if illegals are covered in this bill. A previous bill said that it would not cover illegal immigrants but even if it did, do those people not deserve health insurance? They are taken advantage of in this country, they work and pay taxes in this country, and they are simply people to.
RoundSquareX 1 year ago
Son, you are too young to understand the implications of this bill. By young I mean you haven't been around the block, you don't have a family(wife and kids), you've grown up in good times.
This is a bad idea. You'll HAVE TO buy some gov. approved form of insurance. General practitioners will see their incomes reduced because the gov will cap the cost for their svs. These guys barley make 100k to run a business.
All this bill does is kill competition and increase cost. Recipe for disaster!
chillichomper 1 year ago
Listen i am not a Republican or a democrat
but I do understand the bill and health care.
First i would like to say my spelling sucks
Second it is i sorry for your situation
Now if the goverment passes this bill fully the the private insure is currently at 3.6 percent denial of claims and the united states gov is at 6.8 percent
i have more for u message me i would love to educate you so you can better understand what you are looking at
TheWescat 1 year ago
look iv got cancer and i dont think my insurance covers prexcistance like my cancer so if this does not pass i probley will die so you tell me what you think i want
domenicomason77 2 years ago
Well maybe you should have bought health insurance BEFORE you got sick you fucking idiot. Cancer does not explain your terrible spelling though. Die you uneducated liberal troll scum.
Armyscout1979 2 years ago
Why dont YOU go burn in hell you conservative piece of shit. You have no heart for saying shit like that.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
Shut up nigger
Armyscout1979 2 years ago
Shows how smart you are. Gotta call me a "nigger" huh? Go back to doing your mom or whatever it is you rednecks do.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
Im from New York City, how is that redneck? Why do people make such a big deal when someone uses the word nigger? Its a magic word that turns black people into dumb violent beasts. Grow up, get an education, and please get a job. 15% black unemployment is funny as hell but I am still paying for your unemployment benefits and healthcare.
Armyscout1979 2 years ago
Your funny. You make me laugh..
1. I have a job 2. Just because you are from New York doesnt mean you arent a redneck. 3. I have an education...very good one at that. You dont pay for my healthcare you idiot. Get a life and stop trolling, because you are not funny nor smart nor entertaining. Just dumb.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
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Whatever you say fatass.
Armyscout1979 2 years ago
"Nigger" has been considered a derogatory term for 30 years, pal. If you weren't aware of that, you might want to consider taking your head out of your ass. It's people like you who make Americans look bad. Honestly. What have your kind ever succeeded in the history of our country? The KKK? Too bad that went out of style 100 years ago.
cotovatre 1 year ago
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Why are all liberals fat as fuck?
Armyscout1979 2 years ago
I dont know....you tell me....because im not a liberal. But tell me this....why are conservatives racist as fuck? If you trying to be funny...please find another profession. This is not working for you....at all.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
Whats wrong with racism? Its funny.
Armyscout1979 2 years ago
@Armyscout1979 it is funny. you can call me a nigger, that really funny it is. and i can call a sister fucking pasty face cracker. lol no harm done. racism is funny
kelsonjamie 1 year ago
Cause they're entitled to more food than the rest of us. lmao
chillichomper 1 year ago
Why are all republicans pussy? all talk no action?
@Armyscout1979
networkingdefence1 1 year ago
@MulattoBrothaGW
He's just a stupid cracker face bitcch.. fuck republicans, and fuck the democrats who didn't vote for the bill... it passed because we need reform and it will pass!=).
networkingdefence1 1 year ago
Dude. It seems like you got a good heart. Most people are generally confused by this bill. Depending on the news coverage you watch and the controlled media snippets you receive. It all seems to be fine and dandy. BUT DIG DEEPER. This is communism/socialism incarnate! This is being forced. No choice. FASCISM. Stay looking for the truth, take nothing at the surface level.
nanadinanajad 2 years ago
I see your point of view and I'm taking into account the fact you said you aren't really into politics but i just want to point out a few things. Low income families already receive gov healthcare(medicaid and schips) on top of that if you get badly injured a hospital is NOT going to turn you away. This is why hospitals are so expensive here. I'm glad you feel good about helping others but wouldn't it be better you donate on your own and not have the gov rob your neighbors? Ever been to the DMV?
new01 2 years ago
I'll throw out one last point in our discussion. America was founded on the idea of limited gov. Our Constitution allows for it to cover defense and what is generally good for the people. I think health care for all could fall into that. But many decades of gov. overstepping thier bounds has left a very sour taste in our mouths. Thanks for the civil debate. I enjoyed it.
zerk54 2 years ago
This bill will never see the light of day as law.
A mandate requiring all individuals to purchase health insurance would be an unprecedented form of federal action. The government has never required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States.
Should it pass the next round, the GOP will get the Supreme Court involved. I doubt that we'll ever be subjected to the mandates in this bill.
MrEmesis 2 years ago
With the rate the Fed is pumping money out, market salary == to $50,000 today, may very well be approaching a couple $100,000, in a few short years.
Most politicians ignore economics because they will be long out of office once the economic damage is done.
Vote Ron Paul.
machaeroguy 2 years ago
It's easy you douche! 1.3 trillion dollars is simply not affordable. The "people" you speak of making 500k a year are the assholes that'll employ your immature ass. It's simple, taxing the people that crate jobs, kills jobs! Just ask a veteran how the VA hospitals take care of them. Decision made!
xjnate5150 2 years ago
The only douche here is the one shoved up your ass.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
man bro it sucks i dont wan the damn government running my life =( this isnt right but its free so i cant argue with that man later
Megamanwolf 2 years ago
I rather have the government to help me then die on my own without healthcare of any kind. I got denied of having a MRI done today because I didn't have $1800 fucking dollars to have it done. And I have serious problems too. Not only that, I have ADD, ADHD, OCD, dislexia, nerve problems, anger problems, suicide problems, and no job either.
ldksparda 2 years ago
Suicide Problems? DONT DO IT! I have had plenty of people in my family take that way out...not worth it. Gives you and family to much pain.
I have asthma, sever allergies, IBS, and i get really bad headaches once inna while. I cant find a job either and I have been looking for one for over a year now. I have no health insurance and would love to see this bill pass. Just worried what would come out of it.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
Oh yeah. I had been hospitalized from it a couple of weeks ago. I got denied of SSI because I didn't have enough of problems...or didn't seem to be the type to have problems in front of a smartass judge. I got turned down the first time, re-appealed it, year and half later, had the same thing happen again. Then attempted suicide, and so, now I'm having it re-appealed to the highest court. Not only that, I have the other problems aswell. So, it's complicated.
ldksparda 2 years ago
I understand...but what I'm trying to say is... don't take that way out. Life is hard and always will be. I'm sure theres people that love you and don't want to see you go.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
I am against this bill as it is now. I feel that the bill has too much pointless fluff added to it. Personally I think they went way too fast when writing the bill. Rome wasn't built in a day and health care can't be reformed in a year.
oscfan1 2 years ago
But you got to think of it this way...People were rushing them. They were in a hurry and impatient. Especially Republicans. So its like alot of people looking over your shoulder to cheat off of you on a test, its gives alot of tension stuff like that... Weird comparison I know. lol
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
wow some of you guys are such fucking haters of obama, grow the fuck up i fucking hate how some republicans try to bring the black man down: it took bush 8 years to put us in this shithole and you want6 him to make miracles its only been like a year so chill the fuck out
YasharWTF 2 years ago
NANNY STATE
3goals4bonzai 2 years ago
What I can't understand is how people think that somehow the Gov have this "evil" plan to control everything and that Obama will become a dictator. Do you guys honestly believe that?
The Gov are trying to do what they think is best for the country. Now whether or not it's the correct way to go about it is an entirely different topic altogether. I'm just trying to figure out how people think that the Gov' is out to get us and control us etc.
Those people are called conspiracy theorists.
IngazZagni 2 years ago
It's not Obama. The people are just making more noise now. Liberty in this country has been eroding for a long time now. It has happened under every U.S. president. More and more legislation=less and less freedom.
zerk54 2 years ago
Thats how I feel. I like Obama, I dont think hes a bad guy, and dont think hes out to control. My opinion, people are just afraid that they will loose power. Especially Republicans. I dont like the Goverenment, but its nothing but lies and false appearance, but I dont blame the gov for everything in this country. People are to blame as well. They just dont want to admit it. Stand up and be heard! Volunteer or feed the hungry. If ur not apart of the solution, ur apart of the problem!!
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
whats interesting is that without the lower income people, the 500,000 dollar a year + people wouldnt be making all that money.
ocerg1111 2 years ago
Sending Americans to jail for not buying into a government program, funneling the country into rationed medicine, and dictating government control over the populous through their health... who wouldn't want that!
thejmeister88 2 years ago
5.4%... can't wait to hear the horror stories from ppl that just hit that mark and own a business or have financial commitments. stealing from the rich and giving to the poor is false charity. im poor and don't have to worry about that but its still foul.
could they do it again. imagine a future where the politicians keeps snatching percentages from the rich/mid class. financial system collapses.
iamundergrace 2 years ago
im just as lost as you man. all i know is that most politicians and gov officials nowadays are corrupt and only care to win elections. i say gov cant be trusted right now since they put us in this situation in the first place and now their trying to drain peoples money for a quick money solution in this bill. calis suffering alot from this temporary recovery method and i would hate to see this gov trend to be applied nationwide through healthcare.
sbambic 2 years ago
I feel you man, I dont really trust any politician. All they tell is lies. Thats all politics is to me...Lies. Even Obama. And I like him.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
First...don't trust a word that comes out of Nancy Pelosi's mouth! She pledged that 72 hours would be given to the public before the vote...that did not happen. In addition, the public really has no idea as to all the exact details in this bill...what are they hiding from us?When it gets to the Senate it has no chance of passing!
Look at how people voted in Jersey and Virginia last week...people are waking up!
semowery 2 years ago
Our Gov needed another source of Revenue and also needed to control healthcare costs.
Theyll get both if they pass it past the Senate.
This is not about healthcare are more about budgeting. The CBO said Obama had to do two things in order to get this unsustainable budget in check.
1. Cut healthcare costs.
2. Generate lots of jobs. quickly.
Option one is the only option now.
makeinstall 2 years ago
I havent really seen any jobs lately. I havent been able to find one. All I've heard is how fast jobs fire/let go of people because of the recession.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
How will it cut health care costs by insuring even more people. No costs will be cut. Higher taxes in many forms will pay for it.
zerk54 2 years ago
I am against it. One reason. Gov. control. The topic doesn't matter. Health care or making snow cones. The gov. wants to control it. I wish everyone could have free health care. However, nothing is free. If the gov. would stop with taxing us to death then we could afford more charitable giving and not for profits could help those without health care. Then more people get coverage and we all can stay a free people. Make no mistake. What liberty we have left is fast eroding. It's not going to stop
zerk54 2 years ago
I agree with the government control. The gov wont stop till they they control EVERYTHING.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
so you're saying you dont want police, firedepartment, schools, roads, spaceprogram, military, watersuply, ... . this is all goverment controled. the only difference is that you are used to the goverment controle this and not yet healthcare. if all these things were done by private, PROFIT DRIVEN companies, im pretty sure you would be paying a lot more. the goverment doesnt aim for profit, they actualy aim for the providing of the service.
I realy dont understand americans who dont want this.
stijnhaki 2 years ago
The basis for the American way of life is a self reliant people. I know that sounds crazy to a lot of others around the world. There aren't many here that believe it anymore. The gov doesn't have to be profit driven. It can just print money until our currency is worthless. Some of us here do trust a true free market. Our market has not been a real free market in quite some time.
zerk54 2 years ago
My point is this. The more the gov. legislates, the less free the people are. In America, most of us feel that it's not a good trade off. The gov can never deliver what it promises. It always costs WAY more than what the tell us. And we lose liberty. It's a loss all around.
zerk54 2 years ago 3
if you want liberty, you need to cancell a whole bunch of you're other laws, like some of those anti terrorism laws(just pointing out that you are willing to give out libery if the reason is good enough). i think giving up that little of liberty is worth getting a health ensurance. i live in belgium, with its goverment run healthcare, and i still feel free. extra question : why is company controle better then governement controle? the governement is kinda a company, no?
stijnhaki 2 years ago
Completely agree on the anti terrorism laws. Many will give up liberty for what seems to be a good trade. It's never agood trade for the people. If I don't like what a company is selling then they don't get my money. The gov. can take my money whether I like what they're selling or not. That is the differance and it's a big one. We have gov. health care already. Medicaid/Medicare. I'd rather they expand those then completely change the system.
zerk54 2 years ago
if you have companies provinding a service, they set a min cost for a service, if you cant pay, you get nothing (the company doesnt mind). if 1 company has a monopoly, it can set any price it wants. we have laws(goverment controle, anti liberal) wich ensure that monopoly doesn't happen. companies are not afraid to do immoral things for profit and important services should thus be gov. controlled so everyone can always count on them.
you democraticly choses what gov. does with your money.
stijnhaki 2 years ago
We don't choose how our money is spent. We might kick and scream but the gov. does what it wants. I can see your point of view. However we will never agree becaues you trust your government to do right for the people. I do not have that trust in my government. I also think that charities and not the government should be in the business of helping those that are without. Reliance on the gov. does not make a strong people. It primes the people to fall under tyranny.
zerk54 2 years ago
i also see you're point of view (the liberal view and that laws create less freedom). gov. is far from perfect, for sure, but their intentions are good and its not easy pleasing all the people you have to make desicions for. so the gov. has a pretty hard job, and what i hear about obama, is that he is willing to make the hard and sometimes unpopulare desicions. that shows me he looks at what's good, instead of what is good for him.i hope you give him your trust and lets hope for the best.
stijnhaki 2 years ago
Bill bars Illegal Immigrants from receiving payments for health coverage!
but.......lack of a citizenship verification system creates loophole
They can can close this loophole in the senate ...... so its still a good bill technically. They say "no illegals allowed" But never ask or check.
So it is still against the law, law that is not enforced. This bill at least gives 36 Millions Americans health coverage no matter how you look at it.
sidehide1 2 years ago
Good Point, but im still worried if it will make us more in debt. We are in a recession and using this $1.3 trill...i just dont know what think right now.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
where did you find this number, 1.3 trill.
i know the american military costs between $925 billion and $1.14 trillion.
over how many years would that 1.3 trill need to be paid?
stijnhaki 2 years ago
ur the fukin coolest dood on utube.
mutantofnature 2 years ago
Thanks man
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
speakkk the truth BROTHA! 5/5
THAHITMAN509 2 years ago
Thanks bro.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
Do you realize that a person who doesn't comply with this bill will be fined and/or imprisoned? This bill is just another step closer to communism. The Democrats WANT big-government control of our lives. It blows my mind how brainwashed the Obama-bots are.
JimboVids 2 years ago
See how your representative for your state and your district voted; aye for yes or nay for no:
"opencongress(dot)org/vote/2009/h/887"
KarmicOmen 2 years ago
its good to see a younger person thinking about this stuff. I hope your anwsers will come to you. Myself, I look at it this way. You dont give the federal government more control over anything. are founding fathers set things up for small government to protect us from a ruling class. the federal government is suppose to do minimal. doesnt matter if its left or right their are crooks on both sides. Im all for small government.
laylowfreehumanity 2 years ago 2
i dont understand politics
patsfan4life26 2 years ago
Lol, i dnt really either. But I just pay attention to know whats going on in our country.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
ithink you shouldnt have to choose left or right, democrat or republican. its so dumb that americans choose one party and follow everything they say. we americans need to think for ourselves. not watch cnn and fox and other stations, but look at the facts. facts are facts, and we need to observe and think for ourselves
aiG0oChamNa 2 years ago
I didnt choose either. Like I said in the video, I dont know what side to choose. I do think for myself, hence the reason why I made this videos giving my opinions.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
What your saying is that it's ok for someone to just quit working and suck on the government tit, because now the "rich" daddy on the otherside of town is gonna pay for their doctor bill?? Wrong, rich daddy will make less money and be in a lower income bracket. This along with a couple other "bills" will lead to armed revolution. The first shot was fired last night.
idahotandj 2 years ago 2
No, thats where you misunderstood. I think people should still work obviously. I know there will be some losers that will "suck on the gov tit" as you put it...but not all. What I was saying is if I was rich and paying taxes, and the taxes I pay went to low income people, most of who need and deserve it, rather than lazy ass people....that I wouldn't have a problem with that.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
great video, and yes i agree. even if people are not into politics, we should still know what is going on.
Alma2Awesom3 2 years ago 2
The NHS is run through taxation and it works.
Fight4Privacy 2 years ago
Then we can disagree to agree. My initial statement complained about shortages, which you attest to. There is no waiting list in America, even for the uninsured facing fatal injury or illness. I have my own opinions on how the American system needs to be improved, but an NHS system is not one of them.
thejokerspeaks 2 years ago 2
Also the NHS running through taxation does not work if the UK is running on national debt unable to pay for their own expenses.
thejokerspeaks 2 years ago 2
I don't know if you know this but America is already in a lot of debt and you don't even have a NHS so that argument is void.
Fight4Privacy 2 years ago
Explain how my argument is void
thejokerspeaks 2 years ago 2
What is your opinion?
Fight4Privacy 2 years ago
That trough social programs and overspending America has gotten into unbelievable debt. Since this was done without an NHS, any argument against the NHS is somehow void? It's like telling a guy who is going bankrupt with credit card debt to finance new furniture...
Heck we're like drunken sailors anyways, why not?
thejokerspeaks 2 years ago 2
And we have private health care in which you pay a premium for in order to get 1st class treatment if you can afford it. I think this model is the best way of doing things, having both public no frills attached NHS and private frills attached health care services.
Fight4Privacy 2 years ago
thats the exact way i see it , well said. both together are good.
803brando 2 years ago
I'm against it, everyone I talked to from England hates that we are moving in this direction. A friend of mine needed a surgery at 15 and had to wait till 25 when he moved to the states due to shortages. Health care will be rationed, it will be exploited, and it will become inefficient.
thejokerspeaks 2 years ago 2
The NHS is an excellent health care service, if the government decided to take it away they would have a revolution on their hands. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Fight4Privacy 2 years ago
Well if you aren't sure, why don't we find out?
First, why don't you explain how the NHS is an "excellent health care service". I don't mean in words, but by providing evidence, statistics, and public opinion. 2nd, are you implying that dependency on social programs is evidence of a good thing? Enlighten me ;)
thejokerspeaks 2 years ago 2
I cannot give you evidence, I can give you a personal opinion. I live in England and have used the NHS many times. I have had one major operation free of charge. I have had many docotrs checkups and appointments free of charge, I have been given at home nursing care after my operation free of charge. I have had friends and family have excellent treatment free of charge.
Fight4Privacy 2 years ago
You have personal experience with the NHS. Why do you think that so many English immigrants in the US complain of the NHS, and shortages, waiting lists, and limits in care? Is it true that the elderly are denied? What is your opinion of Daniel Hannan? Lastly, how is the economy affected by the NHS?
thejokerspeaks 2 years ago 2
We have both public health care in which you will get treated free of charge you are put in a line to be treated that's probably why people complain about the waiting but that is expected. Can you imagine if you took all the people in America without insurance and possibly may die because of that fact, do you think they would say that they would rather wait for health care or would they say "no way, I am not waiting"
Fight4Privacy 2 years ago
I have never heard anyone I know have any problems with the NHS. Everytime I have used the NHS it was quick, friendly, reassuring and it always "fixed me up" I don't have to worry about getting injured or sick if I don't have health insurance. I just pop to the hospital for a while get treat properly and come home fully recovered. Honestly I feel that once you experience the NHS style of health care you wouldn't complain about your health care reform.
Fight4Privacy 2 years ago
how many read to
PG 25 and understood the implications, enough to vote against IMHO (2) INSUFFICIENT FUNDS.—If the Secretary es timates for any fiscal year that the aggregate amounts available for payment of expenses of the high-risk pool will be less than the amount of the ex- penses, the Secretary shall make such adjustments as are necessary to eliminate such deficit, including reducing benefits, increasing premiums, or estab lishing waiting lists.
billrah 2 years ago 2
If this bill goes into law then over the next yr over 5,ooo,ooo jobs will be lost! this will happen becouse, why would you pay for health insurance when you can get it for free! this will put major strain on privet insurance killing jobs by the millions! should you be concerned as an amarican???? yes!
normanjoness 2 years ago 2
even tho I dont really understand this health care stuff. IM in the middle dont know who side to take
Daikirai432 2 years ago
Good video Gino.. It's nice to hear your thoughts on this..
Moreover, HATS OFF to you for actually being interested in this. When I was 20, I could are less about politics..
And just for the record, I'm against Obama's Reform.
nessalu 2 years ago 2
Yeah I know you are. lol
Im just interested because of what I tole you before, not having any health insurance. Im just hoping that this helps me out as well as others that need it.
Plus, I pay attention to politics only because I want to be..."less stupid" when it comes to this stuff. Theres still alot I have to learn. Hence me making videos trying to understand it.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
I'm glad that this passed. First, deficit spending is how we've always gotten out of recessions. Even Reagan did it when he tripled defense spending. Second, this will eliminate the concept of the pre-existing condition and should regulate rescission. Third, it will assist in trust-busting the insurance companies that control 85% of the market in some states. There's countless other reasons and I don't have enough space here.
washburnsh 2 years ago
Hey, theres more comment space. lol. Just leave another comment. Love hearing from people. :)
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
im for this bill ...
i need my medicines and clinic visits with my job i cant afford it with this happenningg i can finally afford it with eaz.
xxLatinKillaxx 2 years ago
Funding for abortion? LMAO Illegal immigrants getting healthcare from a system they'd need to pay into to get it? Aside from the fact that adding 19 million people to this plan would make the premiums so much lower, LMAO Not really laughing though because its a shame you spent this much time making a video just to look incredibly misinformed on the matter. Frankly, I probably spent a fraction of the time you have on the subject and I feel like I know significantly more than you do about it.
MrPolysyllabic 2 years ago
Like I said i the video genius...Im not that into politics.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
Unconstitutional
+1.3 trillion dollars in the middle of a recession
+Taxes employers
+Taxes people who dont have it.
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Great idea!
terminator007007 2 years ago
This bill will require all to have health insurance. If they do not have health insurance, they get jail time and a fine. I would be all for this if it wasn't for the draconian requirement. But our govt is saying "If you don't go along with this bill, you are a criminal."
bcin3d 2 years ago 2
THATS THE THING ITS LIKE THEY meaning OBAMA waant to turn us into criminals !! The government should not be involved in healthcare that much,,im all for affordable caps on doctor payments and insurance caps but hell not going to jail if you dont have insurance im tempted not to get the shit on purpose,,,,move to the hills buy a bunch of guns then go to washington and have some fun!!! OBAMY here we come!!!!
bjf2008 2 years ago
Absolutely nowhere will you find any language in this bill that makes it a crime to not have health insurance. No one is going to be arrested/jailed for not acquiring health insurance. What you will find is, if a person decides to be lazy and not get off their ass long enough to go find out what coverage they can get and decide what plan they want, they will be fined up to 2.5% of their gross adjusted income for each year they fail to sign up for insurance. For most people it will cost nothing.
MrPolysyllabic 2 years ago
Get your facts straight. The mandate could lead to a annual fine, but no jail time.
washburnsh 2 years ago
dude dont take this the wrong way but u would make a really cute prison gf
velourkungen 2 years ago
wtf !!!!!! how could anyone take that the wrong way!!!! im sure he is very happy to know that!!! wtf
bjf2008 2 years ago
What ever you say there prison boy.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
hey man, heres what i think, i think it should pass, i,m,o. , everyone should have the right to healthcare, no one should be told they cant afford to live... and like you said illegal immigrants, i work with illigal mexicans and they are some of the nicest people i have ever met, and very hard workers, the least they deserve is health care considering they work thier asss off for min. waige.. so thats what i think mulatto
YasharWTF 2 years ago
Yeah, some illegal immigrants are very polite, hard working people. But its the illegal immigrants that arent that make a bad name for them. I understand that people come here to make a difference in their lives, but at the same time...they come here illegally. Some take jobs that low income americans need. For the illegals that do thisand dont care....those are the ones I dont like.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
yea bro, but then again, they do alot of the dirty jobs americans dont want to do, and not to mention they are great great workers
YasharWTF 2 years ago
End welfare and you'll see people working those dirty jobs.
Welfare queens are just too lazy and we are all paying for it.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago 4
Dont you know that hospitals cannot turn away ANYONE who comes in through the emergency department ? We have to take the uninsured and illegal aliens as well! It is the law...... I am so tired about hearing about how some groups are not getting healthcare! OMFG !!!! Do you have ANY idea how many of the patients I see at work are uninsured? or are illegal aliens ( who speak no English)?? These groups don't pay JACK SQUAT.... why the F---- are they complaining? unfknblvbl.....
hypemuch 2 years ago 2
Illegal immigrants have NOTHING to complain about. Some are getting taken better care of than or own people...Americans.
MulattoBrothaGW 2 years ago
Emergency rooms to have to accept disadvantaged people, but guess who pays for it when the patients can't. You do. Everyone does. This practice is partly responsible for premiums being so high. This practice raises the cost of health care.
However, emergency rooms do not provide chronic treatment. People with cancer cannot go to the emergency room to get chemo-treatment. People with epilepsy cannot go to the emergency room to get medication.
The ER is best just for emergencies.
washburnsh 2 years ago
...... yes, me being a nurse kinda gives me a frontline view of things, i guess .... ...
( Chronic tx, No, of course not, emergency surgeries, Yes, seen it many times...)
hypemuch 2 years ago
i got first comment...yay!!
YasharWTF 2 years ago