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  • Thats the life. No rank, no patches, and no names.

  • I don't understand the difference between Green Berets and MARSOC, are they the same but just different branches? What would be the "job" of MARSOC units? I have a general idea of Special Forces but not much for these guys. Never less I have respect for US Forces. I remember my dad who was in the Marines said that Army has all the gear but Marines have all the training lol.

  • @SaiVihtooMyint MARSOC mostly conducts Direct Action. However lately they have been doing lots of Reconnaissance missions and conducting operations with the ANA to train them. MARSOC came from USMC Recon, which was mostly Reconnaissance and Scout/Sniper oriented guys. Apparently JSOC has requested MARSOC create a Tier 1 unit on par with CAG/DEVGRU as well, so they will do a lot of High Value Target missions and such.

  • @bburns112 Thanks, I'll do some research on what you said, I wasn't aware that MARSOC is asked to make a Teir 1 Unit, if this is true I would love to serve under it, Marines all the way! Thanks Again

  • Are all US Marines queer nowadays - seems you have to be able to do 'golden showers' on corpses to get in -?

  • going to bootcamp in 3 weeks im fuckin stoked! then recon indoc after mct... hopefully hah

  • Its the real deal folks. in next couple years they will have a tier 1 designation.

    semper fi

  • MARSOC is fucking scary. This is the most elite force on the planet.

    The stories I've heard about these guys are insane.

  • @mikey0rox Marsoc is kinda young. So stories but not many

  • is it like air force pararescue, army rangers, and navy seals all in one?!

  • Guys I don't seem much about MARSOC units that much. Can someone explain what they do? Is it almost the same as Army Special Forces (Green Berets) do? What kind of training do they receive?

    Thanks

  • @SaiVihtooMyint the MARSOC are marines but just more elite the MARSOC is the most deployed speacial force group in america

  • @USMCsemperfitillidie So would Force Recon, Scout Snipers fall into this category?

  • can someone please explain to me what MARSOC does i really want to know also please be educational.

  • @tonybarrueta MARSOC- marine special ops command

    Marine special operations battalion- Direct Action, Special Recon, and foreign internal defense.

    Marine Special Operations Support Group- Command's administrative, intelligence

    Marine Special Operations Intelligence Battalion- support training

    Marine Special Operations School- traines marsoc marines

  • Why in the hell can't the army do it if the marines can. They are the same kind of men; why cant they be like marines!!! "General John J. Pershing United States Army"

  • @3030johnny that was General BLACKJACK Pershing. In 1919 in the Phillipines he and his men captured 50 Islamic fucks and excuted 49 of them for their crimes against the people. The only one who was left went and told the other Islamic fucks to get lost or else. During the executions the Islamic fucks were lined up and shot with bullets soaked in pigs blood. For 42 years there was not one incident reported of the coward islamic fucks doing any of their cowardly ass crimes on anyone. As it should.

  • @CrimsonChampions you are a very ingorent person do you relize the hardships they go through every day. im an american future recruit but i still relize that other problems in different countries

  • If the Commandant would approve the name change to Marine Raiders it would make all other branches so fucking jealous. MARSOC just isn't a badass name, but Marine Raiders is sick and comes with a legacy. I hope they try to get it changed again

  • @USMCole just wondering, why Marine Raiders?

  • @beansemo Marine Raiders was the name for a Marine Special Operations Force during WW2. For some reason the Commandant won't aprove of paying respect by changing the name.

  • lol, i love competition, it encourages our branches to do more than just average, in fact above average, however just because you stay up late at night playing cod as an army ranger, or a navy seal, does not mean you know everything. illmeta is right some of you fat civies wont last a day even going through a poolee function. I know this because when i became a poolee i thought that i was fit enough to run 4 miles, but i got dehydrated and almost passed out, its always more mental than physicl

  • masteradnin:Makes sense that you are green beret, not even close to even Battalion Recon training level in the Corps. The Army will give any queer a beret. I actually have Marine Corps military experience you bitch. The Marines never needed a Special Ops title because most infantry in the Corps are Special Ops capable and qualify for it before deployment. Besides the fact that the Army relies on Marines to go in first to clear things out, Marines have always cleaned up for the Army. Somalia?

  • @kangaldogs0331 the marines are the best infantry but they cant stack up against Special Forces i mean one phase alone takes around 18 to 20 sum weeks thats just phase one,and Ranger School is 61 days that only gets you the Ranger Tab not the Ranger Scroll and there are plenty of Marines that cant make it through Ranger School and as for Somalia the Marines were sent to help with UN food dirtribution not clear the path for the Rangers

  • As soon as I get a second deployment and become at least a Corporal, Im going MARSOC. I've been preparing for it since before I even joined the Corps

  • Whats a green beret even doing on youtube. And why are you telling people this info? You're obviously retarded and not in the military, FalloutFanatic100

  • I don't care how miserable the training is, IM TRYING OUT FOR MARSOC!!!

    its going to be AWESOME!

  • i wouldent like to see them knocking a my door if i was Iraq solider !!!!!

  • whoa man..i played plenty of call of duty......now im 0321

  • @brewer003 there we go infantry officer good shit.

  • @SierraTangoWhisky95 infrantry officer = his guys do the work, he does paperwork and takes credit. oh look a ribbon, chase after it.

  • @ThePriest1919 yea cause we dont do shit at all. id like for you to come out and do what we do and brewer is in recon and im pretty sure Recon officers dont just sit there. come down to 2/8 and try and tell that to my face and ill show you what infantry officers can really do.

  • you know what? fuck all of your bitching and whining about who's better than who...you know why? cause im better than all of them....Im a NINJA!!!!

  • whats with all the Army guys commenting and hating on a MARINE video? Thats how you know its lies. Real Delta Force soldiers wouldn't waste time hating on a Marine video.

    Does that tell you something?

  • @TheCrazyItalian14 TRUE!!! RLTW!!!

  • thats badass my bro is in marsoc i cant wait to join him in 4 years

  • @poisenmushrooms4u imma be there too! except it'll be 6 years before i can try out for Marsoc. :(

  • @TheCrazyItalian14 dang homie it sux bro but hey dont spend the next 6 years wishing you were trying out for marsoc right now cus itl be miserable lol

  • No pain...no gain, bitch. Semper Fidelis to all my fellow Devil Dogs. Peace out. -dok

  • Why do civilians fight over who is better. We all fight the same enemy, right?

  • leaving for MARSOC assemssment and selection in 3 months!!!!!!!! TIME TO MAKE IT HAPPEN!

  • @jjober1104 Let me know how it is... I am planning on going. I just need to pick up rank. I am in the process of training like treading water and other things.... Harsh PT basically. Send me a message and I will give you my email address. I am very interested in it.

  • Omg a military video with a good SONG?

  • civilians = nasty turds....

  • FagForce Recon

  • @masteradnin oh im sorry i was just equally the terms with your gamer brain, 1st Special Forces Group then, and im in the military and i do so thats rules that out, its not like some terrorist is gonna come on here and hunt me down in the US and assassinate me i can say everything i want about my job, except names, i cant say names, im not in Delta YET kid cant you read, and i have already been picked and have been training alongside them for about 6 months so far so apparently they did, child.

  • @FalloutFanatic100

    What SFAS did you graduate?

  • @captainmutiny went to Fort Bragg, North Carolina for 30 days, then went to SFQC on Fort Bragg for about 46 weeks so almost a year. If thats what you are asking. If thats not what you were asking then rephrase your question so that I know exactly what you are asking.

  • @FalloutFanatic100 So you are saying that your dad was a delta and your a delta? Delta's are not supposed to let anyone know they are delta. Plus the knowledge you are giving to people is very basic knowledge of military training. Anyone can go on Military.com and find out that info and try and go around bragging that they are apart of the imaginary military that they so wish to be.

  • @masteradnin stop throwing a bitch fit, i'm a green beret, i actually have military experience, you're the kid, so kid get a life, join the military, and i wasn't calling gay ass MARSOC green berets cause they are not even close to us , MARSOC is on the bottom of the list in special operations, i have seen them in action, they aren't what all you little kids think they are, just by watching this video you think they are the most hardcore shit ever, but in the field they do not execute well.

  • @masteradnin Bullshit!!! they don't execute well! They get the job done. Sempri FI

  • @FalloutFanatic100 Two things, I will bet my life you wouldv NEVER say that about the Marines to a Marines face. And you're name is fucking Fallout Fanatic, Fallout is a video game. And why are you posting stuff on youtube instead of training for Delta.

  • @TheCrazyItalian14 exactly bro that fucking fallout fanatic punk ass he wont say shit to anybody from MARSOC or SAS to their face without getting his ass beat. Haha were all fighting the same enemy idk why people like that are so fucking retarded.

  • @sgunsurgeon yes, the USMC is not for me, i rather not be part of the worst branch in the military (MY PERSONAL OPINION) and poser, look kid, a green beret isn't a poser, how about you join your MARSOC shit and see if you can keep up.

  • @FalloutFanatic100 You're a fucking idiot for calling them "Green Berets". All that shows is that you're a moron and know NOTHING about any service branch. Stop fucking trash talking the Marines, SAS, and any other military service. You are disgracing the United States Army Special Forces by simply mentioning them and even their nick name. As for your opinion, no one fucking cares. Get the fuck off and stop looking for trouble, kid.

  • @masteradnin in fact, i will be in a better Group than SAS in about a year, i have already qualified and am working on getting into SFOD-D. and i will talk as much shit as i want about marines, what are you going to do, try to be tough on the internet and type some curses at me. so KID how about you go play video games and i will do the real operations and then you can dream about doing what i do for a living. how and guess what you thinking im an idiot thats your opinion so no one cares dumbass

  • @FalloutFanatic100 First off, if you were in SF you would not say "Green Beret." Secondly, if you were in the military, you wouldn't talk shit about the Marines or MARSOC and actually mean it. Third, if you were in SF, Rangers, or Delta, you wouldn't be posting on here. Fourth, if you were in Delta, you wouldn't go announcing it on the internet moron, cause Delta is classified you stupid fuck. Lastly, Delta would never take an ass hat like you. So STFU and stop giving the US Military a bad name.

  • @FalloutFanatic100 You are a lieing piece of shit.

  • If you didn't serve, then shutup! You know nothing! I don't care what your dad did, or your cousin, or your best friends uncle. I don't care what you "heard". If yoy didn't, don't speak until you have. Because you don't know shit! SEMPER FI!

  • The military Life is what i choose, If i ever return to Society to live a normal life. I would become a firefighter or join the SWAT. Probably the SWAT because im a Mother fucker trigger Happy guy :) IDK i know that i just want to do something where I could be in my community and help out IN my community.

  • It was the Navy SEALs who took out bin laden. Delta was far from it. I just returned from afghanistan last week so I should know. Marine Corp MARSOC

  • @usmcgrunt0317 they only chose DevGru because they were closer, see if Delta was on a ship in the middle of the ocean off the coast of Iraq and Afghanistan, Delta would have been sent in.

  • ok so when your done with bootcamp and you go to soi do they give you a mos of your choice?like recon or are they just going to put you as a rifleman or machinegunner am confused now because if you get a 105 as a gt score they can still fuck with you and put you in combat support or as a grunt rifleman in a standard battalion !?dam

  • All of you people hating on a certain military branch because of its training need to get off your butts and try it. Then see how hard it is. Then go to Afghanistan and see how tough it is out there. all you call of duty losers think it is so easy out there because of videos and games, but you haven't seen half of what it's like out there. I promise if you spent two weeks there you will have so much respect for them you'll get on your knees and bow down to every soldier you see.

  • horrible ass song

  • WOW, Delta does everything shown in this video except Delta Force does it faster, more accurately executed, and just better overall.

  • This is pitiful that civilians fight over who is better than who. Rest assured, any Special Operations training would make you cry like a little bitch. Go back to playing Call of Duty.

  • @illmetaphysics im so glad im not a civilian anymore. Im a poolie for the USMC :) and yeah it is sad that they all argue about it. They all protect and serve us, and still people dont see the big picture

  • @illmetaphysics Thank you!!! Someone had to say it sooner or later!!!! (especially the cry like a little bitch part)

  • @illmetaphysics btw its called cock of duty

  • i didnt target anyone accually, i say this from experience i was a marine for 5 years sir, and marsoc is not at all based off of seals or berets, it is based off of force recon they took 1st and 2nd force recon and made them marsoc, no seals no berets, marines train marsoc, force recon instructors train marsoc no one else, they may have guest instructors who specialize in certain fields but the seals have marines that do that as well, its called cross branch training everyone has that

  • thats not to say that any branch sucks, i support all of them personally i dont think any is better or worse, well i wont say that i think the marines are the best but im pre disposed to that, but im just saying all you people talking shit on the marines should do your research instead of playing video games and getting you intel from them, obviously theres something to the marines the others dont have if every branch allows that

  • the only spec ops a marine would have to take the endoc for would be marine marsoc not seals not green berets, not para rescue, not delta not anything they just try out, no try outs for the try out for those guys

  • allow that if the marines werent the best even though if your trying out for a socom unit not under the marine corps there is no arine corps jurisdiction, they just allow it because they are badasses, spec ops or not

  • i think you idiots who talk trash about the marines should be kicked out of this country for being stupid lol, did you know that if your trying out for a special ops unit you must take an endoc? a tryout to see if your ready for the tryout pretty much. but if your a arine and you pass marine corps boot camp you do not have to take any endoc for any branch to join any spec ops unit lol, you go right to school and try out there with everyone that passed the endoc why would the other branches

  • @jnsmartin21 yes i know that dipshit, you may think Marines are the best, but they are not.

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  • badass is an understatement.HOORAH!

  • @Voltage247 dumbass this isnt the navy its oorah

  • badass

    

  • Your all immature faggets who have never served your country in the first place, so what gives you the right to say what training is more difficult than the other? Or what military branch is better?You people or ridiculous.

    Comments shouldent be allowed for videos concerning the US military, because all the people who flock to it are just little kids who have no experience with the military whatsoever besides for your videogames.

    Go read a book, and stop disgracing our nations heroes.

    Faggets

  • I Just swore into the Marine Corps for Infantry on Friday and eventually plan to join MARSOC! OoRah!

  • @Jnindeee86 Best of luck my friend! If you become a Marine you will be part of a Brotherhood untill the day you die!

  • whats the song

  • Marsoc are not special forces they are special operations there is a huge difference.

    Marsoc are marines that have raised to the standards of green berets.

  • @bighands69 That is an incorrect statement! Think about it, Should not have to explain ANYTHING!!! 

  • @sgunsurgeon

    What is an incorrect statement please provide further explanation if you believe that I have made a mistake.

  • @bighands69  Do i really need to? You should easily see it if you really wanted to!

  • @sgunsurgeon

    Thats when the whole Task Force Violence thing happend an the CO of Fox Company is an idiot for not making them change the name... The whole name thing was even used on them... But anyway you look at it they killed Afghan Civi's I forget the exact # I want to say somewhere around 20, they shot up the place for a 10 mile radius until they were out of the city an back at the FOB..

  • @bighands69 yes! thank you

  • @bighands69 RE: You are obviousally a fan of the Army. Think about your statement, Does it make sense?

  • @sgunsurgeon

    I show no bias towards any service arm of the military having previously served in naval service myself.

    I am going have to assume you have taken offence to my statement on USMC. Or my comments on MARSOC.

    USMC are not commandos and MARSOC is a move to align us marines with commando capabilities. All I am doing is drawing comparisons based on my own military experience.

    Please give proper clarification as to my incorrect statement as you see it.

  • @bighands69 more like to the standards of Rangers, their not good enough to get to the level of green berets, or SEALS, or Delta, or DevGru.

  • @FalloutFanatic100

    America green berets were based on the British commando's.

    Navy seals are based on Marine commando's that were diver trained.

    Delta force and Devgru were based on british special forces such as the SAS and SBS.

    Earing the green beret in Britain is a basic commando's training grade. There is more specialist classes after this such as mountain leader.

    A British commando mountain leader would be classed under an american system as special forces but not in Britain.

  • Just a reminder that you all need to check out the article about 'elite' units in the military on john t. reed's website...Alot of people also seem to come under the impression that SF are these badasses. They are tough in the respect that they are trained to be a sort of rag tag group of wilderness dwellers that are mainly on a diplomatic mission with the added duty of training local militia. They are not the man hunters that they are portrayed to be in media and video games, by any means...

  • @zcxvasdfqwer1234

    Special forces are any units that are not of normal infantry structure that have specialist skill sets.

    Not all special forces are elite they are just skilled in a particular areas. Some special forces were trained as hunters while some were trained in Reconnaissance.

    While the likes of the SAS are considered the best all rounders and you could say they are bad as man hunters.

  • @bighands69 Delta is better than SAS, so change SAS to Delta and you got it right.

  • @FalloutFanatic100

    Delta force is based on the SAS system. The USA did not have special forces on a British level until the late 70s.

    Navy seals would not be classed as special forces in Britian.

    All the training systems that Delta forces were developed on were in use in Britain for about 40 years previous to that.

    The SAS were doing special forces in WW2.

  • Can somebody tell me exactly what all schools and training you have to do to do this? I'm going to join the marines when I'm old enough (15) and I just want to know how long it would take to do something like this

  • @chunxmkgee Don't quote me but you have to have at least a few tours in combat zones and if you're lucky enough to make it out alive then you MIGHT get picked to try out for a team..

  • @chunxmkgee - It's a pretty hard journey. You won't see any 18, 19, 20, or 21 year old MARSOC operator. Most MARSOC Marines are in their late twenties and thirties.

  • @mtrtrm Lol last time i check you have to be under 29 years old to join the marines

  • @Rangerleadtheway44 What does that have to do with anything?

    Only the most experienced/talented Marines can make MARSOC, and the most experienced/talented Marines are usually the ones who make a career out of the USMC. Those Marines have already served more than one enlistment and by that time, they'll already be close to or in their thirties. Nobody can make MARSOC their first enlistment unless they're dealing under the table and pulling high ranking contacts.

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  • Officers get to do MARSOC right?

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  • Why are people discussing the army on a Marine video? If anybody wants to find out how hard it is, fucking join the Marines and shut the fuck up.

  • @77musica more like the army is better join the Army if you wanna see the hardest and best trained soldiers in the military.

  • MARSOC has a bad record compared to Army Special Operations and Naval Special Warfare...there not even in JSOC and they fuck up to much.

  • @usmcmyth saw your channel did a marine sleep with your girlfriend?

  • @usmcmyth Won't even waste 5 minutes replying to this B******T!!!! A frustrated 'Non-Hacker' probably just 'regular' Army who was afraid to go through any Marine Corps trng. Feel sorry for people like you who run their sewers & don't have a clue wha they are talking about! You should have at least TRIED to 'hack it', Made you feel better for at least trying! By the way, MarineCorps DID NOT wan't to be a part of JSOC but were forced to!!!!

  • @sgunsurgeon more like marines are afraid to do army training cause they are not good enough and cant "hack it", and marine corps shouldnt be part of JSOC cause they arent good enough.

  • @FalloutFanatic100 -- I pity you, Poor litle shitbird! How fucking stupid of a statement can you Posers come up with! Once you go through Marine Corps Boot Camp ALL OTHR BRANCHES HONOR THAT! If you decide for some reason to get out & join the army (they have a lot more money for college,etc) then you do not have to go through army boot camp, Same with ALL other branches. Not so in the Marine Corps EVERYONEgoe's through Boot Camp!! Marine Corps is not for you! BUT you already know that huh?

  • @FalloutFanatic100 haha ur just pissed off that you probly couldnt make it through the marines boot camp and was the only person that failed so you have to go on youtube videos of the marines speical forces and hate on them. Ha your so fucking pathetic even if you did make it through youd probly end up being a cook or something lame you pussy ass motherfucker. Internet gangsters is what you are go on youtube and talk shit you fuckin twat

  • Can't wait to become a marine I would like to to try recon, why is everyone arguing about which SF is better were all on the same side let's just get the job done and keep everyone safe back home thats all that matters.

  • holy shit haha i saw everyone yellin at "stuntman mike" at the first page and tried to pan back til i found his comment and gave up after page 9 ahhaah there were 9 pages of people yellin at you. whatever you said must've been some bulll shiittt bro. but yeah, no offense to any Rangers reading this but i hear all you guys do is walk around and "establish presence". Sounds like MARSOC does a lot more, but what the hell do i know i'm just a Civi.

    P.s. Death proof is an awesome movie. cool name

  • Enough arguing already. Can we all at least agree that stuntmanmike714 is the biggest

    retard here and a douche?

  • It's just a recruiting video, no biggie. Each branch has badasses, Seals,Green Berets , Force Recon and whatever the Air force is. I don't consider rangers Special Forces , which i know is going to piss someone off but oh well. But the truth is they all work together on missions , so to say one is the best won't happen.

  • @mcdougal1984

    Then you don't know shit about the Regiment. There is a reason why JSOC's go-to boys are ALWAYS the 75th. NOT the SEALs, not SF, and certainly not any MARSOC personnel.

    Put that cock back in your mouth before you spout anymore ignorance.

    D. 3/75

  • @rangerdoorknob Dude are you even a Ranger ? I worked with plenty when i was in the Marines and when i was a contractor in Iraq and Afghan. Now to what BN they fell under , i really don't know. I didn't ask there life story , but they had the patch.

  • @mcdougal1984 First mistake right there. Our uniforms are sterile when we deploy = meaning no patches or insignia other then rank/name. You are probably confusing members of the 75th Ranger Regiment with your every day military personnel who are Ranger "TABBED".. BIG difference.

    And I served with 3/75 from 2003 to 2007.

  • @rangerdoorknob Dude first off , i never said anything about 75th. I was talking about rangers as a whole. I worked with Army SF guys when i was in Kandahar and they didn't have any patches on there uniforms. No name tapes,no American Flag , and No rank insignia. And they also all had Afghan beards. Those guys are the ones i call Special Forces. As i said before every branch has bad asses. But when people see a ranger patch they think ranger, not what unit ranger are you?

  • @mcdougal1984 There is no such thing as Rangers as a whole. Officially Army Rangers are ONLY members of the 75th Ranger Regiment. People with Ranger Tabs call themselves 'Rangers ' because they lead sub-par careers and have nothing to brag about. Civilians are way too ignorant to know the difference between a school and a special operations unit. So thats why you hear almost every single civilian who has a friend or relative in the military, they are ALWAYS Rangers. I have heard this 50 times.

  • @rangerdoorknob umm weird...CSM Ashmed, CSM Watson...both in 3rd of the 75th during black hawk down and both were in the two squads who took the mogadishu mile out both refear to tab soldiers as rangers...*shrugs* i guess everyone needs some ego......lmao.....sub-par carresrs??? Umm sorry that not every officer or NCO can be apart of a fighting force with around 4300 rangers..

  • @Texashog74 dude I have honestly never met anybody dumber then you on this site. What the hell are you talking about?

    3rd of the 75th = does not mean the 82nd Airborne or the 10th Mountain.. it means exactly that, 3rd Ranger Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. Nvm, you are too stupid to argue with, you took this conversation to a parellel universe.

    There is not ONE member of the 75th Ranger Regiment who considers other TABBED soldiers throughout the military as Rangers, not ONE, I promise you.

  • @rangerdoorknob again dumb ass...i never said the 75th was the same as the 82nd or 10th mtn....the 75th is a selective unit....i have friends in regiment and the only people who get bent out of shape when guys called tabed people rangers are normaly junior enlisted kids

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  • @rangerdoorknob

    US ranger school trains participants to the level of commando. Even though they are not 75th ranger regiment they are still capable people.

    Technically they are at a similar level of standard to that of serving 75th ranger members. I am not saying that they can do a rangers job.

  • @rangerdoorknob Before you say anything else, bear in mind SOF units might overlap in their mission statements and goals but they all have different roles. You need to rethink your view on SEALs, SF, MARSOC, and every SOF unit in the military. Rangers are best at what they do, plain and simple, but they are NOT better than SF at what SF do, nor are they better than SEALs at what SEALs do, nor are they better than MARSOC at what MARSOC does. Remember that, and stay humble - it will take you far.

  • @masteradnin but this is exactly what I have always believed.

  • @rangerdoorknob But it's not what you say. Doesn't matter what you believe if you never say it.

  • @masteradnin

    What exactly does MarSOC do ?? MarSOC has a very bad rep in the SOF community right now with the whole "Task Force Violence" an Fox Company....MarSOC was suppose to be the new Force Recon thats what atleast Army Lt. Gen. Frank Kearney, the top special operations commander in the theater had to say an MarSOC was not ok with this....All you have to do is type in "The story of 'Task Force Violence'..

  • @USPatriot4911 MARSOC has a similar mission goal as US Army Special Forces, however they technically in the Marine Corps. Furthermore, MARSOC is under the command of US Special Operations Command. They serve a different purpose then Force Recon.

  • @masteradnin

    Yes you are right when the Marines created MarSOC they had similar goals as the US Army Special Forces....Too bad MarSOC pisssed of every Gen in the the Afghan theater most notably Army Lt. Gen. Frank Kearney, the top special operations commander in the theater who kicked MarSOC out of the Afghan Theater.... Lt.Gen. Frank Kearney also did stop trust MarSOC with DA missions only deep Recon due to the fact of SEAL team ASF.....Go to Google an type in "Task Force Violence" an READ....

  • @USPatriot4911 I did read it. However, remember that US Army Special Forces have only recently gained the recognition and respect they deserve. In the past Generals regarded them as outsiders and firmly believed that there was no need for Special Forces. I feel that with time, MARSOC will improve and will be able to redeem itself.

  • @masteradnin

    You talking about Delta or the Berets ??? But the Marines should of just stick to "Deep Recon" witch is really mostly all MarSOC does to the dismay of the commanders, why should MarSOC do DA an International Defence when we have DevGru/SEALs an Delta that have perfected it, theres really no need...They really are frowned on right now by other SOF's due to there Reckless nature....

  • @USPatriot4911 I'm talking bout Berets. During Vietnam and until recently they were viewed as outsiders by conventional forces. Now they are being looked at as the soldiers of the future. As for MARSOC, I think the Marines need their own SO qualified force. MARSOC will, eventually, find it's own niche, in my opinion.

  • @masteradnin

    Ehhh, I wouldn't say that much now they have been respected for what they do sense they were created....They have always had a unique job, train an lead local people an guerrilla fighers against an opressive ruler or army..You can truly say that there job really differs from regular SF's....

    My personal opinion on MarSOC [No offense to any Marines I respect all of our military] is your probabaly right they will etch out there meaning eventually but I think it will mostly be Recon.

  • @masteradnin

    Again another one of my opinions [No Offense] is the Marines is like the wild west of our military there a bunch of Cowboys....If they get into a MSOT it most likely will take them several years at the least...Then you have to take a cowboy set in his ways an turn him into a quiet professional witch must be quite the challenge.....I just don't see why they need them...Just because they hate SEALs so damn much ?? SEALs are so DAMN good at what they do, let them do it....

  • @USPatriot4911 No, it is fact that the US SF was not considered to be detrimental to US military operations until only recently. The US military now understands the need for SF units. Also, SEALs and MARSOC have two different and distinct roles. SEALs are more of a DA type unit, MARSOC is similar to Army SF in it's goals and missions. SEALs and MARSOC are as comparable as Army SF and Air Force PJ's.

  • @masteradnin

    Thats not true at all everything MarSOC supposedly does SEALs actually do "MarSOC Primary tasks:

    Direct action

    Special reconnaissance

    Foreign internal defense

    Other roles:

    Counter-terrorism

    Information operations

    Unconventional warfare....Thats what MarSOC suppose to do, SEALs do all that plus more... An even if the Berets were looked at as outsiders they always had a GREAT sucess rate..

  • @USPatriot4911 SEALs are concerned more with maritime operations; MARSOC is also a Marine unit, and SEALs are a Navy unit. Furthermore, MARSOC training was developed based off of the US Army SF training. MARSOC is more in line with Army SF than SEALs, plus, each belong to their own branch of the armed forces.

  • @masteradnin

    It doesn't matter if SEALs specialty is Maritime Operations...The SEALs are our countrys most veratile warriors period..Any SEAL can thrive in any enviorment hense the name SEAL..An the last BIG Maritime operation that we the public have knowledge is about is the Pirate Rescue..An I would disagree you can compare MarSOC to SEALs way before you can compare them to Army SF... Every job that MarSOC does SEALs also do lol I named the jobs that MarSOC is suppose to do...

  • @masteradnin SEALs do all that plus more..When a mission goes down an theres a HR there not calling in MarSOC I can tell you that lol.. There calling in DevGru or Delta bro..MarSOC is not trusted or proven unit yet.. Army SF an MarSOC have close to Zero in common, there bolth from the U.S. thats about it lol. I feel like im dissing our Marines though an I don't want to offend anyone.. An bro, honestly i'll take a SEAL team of 5 guys in any situation anywhere before I would take 15 MarSOC guys..

  • @masteradnin Sorry about that Grammar an Punctutation on those last couple comments I was typing pretty quick so just go with it lol....

  • @USPatriot4911 No need to apologize. I say MARSOC is like Army SF is because their training regiment was mirrored off of Army SF, not SEALs. Plus, each wing of the armed forces needs it's own SOF in proportion to it's necessity. MARSOC is necessary for the Marines just as SEALs are necessary for the Navy. Also look at the objectives/goals of Army SF and then look at MARSOC. Then look at the training for Army SF, then MARSOC. They are very similar.

  • @masteradnin

    I wouldn't say MarSOC is a necessity, Force Recon should just be the Marines bread an butter and if you ask me they should have just upgraded the task/goals of FR instead..Ehh there training mabey somewhat simillar but this brings me back to it has to be pretty fucking hard to turn a CowBoy Marine into a highly trained quiet Spec Op's soldier as we've already seen from there mistakes..An even if there training pipeline is somewhat similar the missions they do are very different..

  • @USPatriot4911 Their training pipeline is actually just a mirror image of Army SF. It even culminates in the end with a Robin Sage type activity, although it has a different name. Also, Force Recon was good at what they did, but they were not a SOF, they were Special Operations capable. Also, it is important that SOF missions be unified under USSOCCOM.

  • @masteradnin Yea your right because the Marines just recently got a Special Forces group and the Army SF is training them. Still though I think the Green berets are better

  • @MrOhiostateboy -----------Lad, You may wan't to speak to the FIRST 'Special Operations unit on a large level we fielded!There are a few of them still alive, They operated behind Japanese lines for months, Often no re-supply, There are several films, They ate the pack mules they were using, If the Japs didn't kill them then malaria, dysentary, & a multitude of diseases took their toll. Check out our first 'guerilla' or 'commandos' as people often called them then, Just Got! LMAO! Check it out

  • @sgunsurgeon Ok so you did what? You ate a pack of mules in Japan? Well my friend if your talking WW2 then you are wrong because the Marine Spec Ops just started about 5 years ago and they go throught the Green Berets course. That's what people don't get, they think "OH Marines? They are so macho with giant muscles" well people don't look at other servies and don't see the Army delta, Rangers.82nd,101st,SF etc.

  • @MrOhiostateboy Ate a 'pack of mules' lol!!!! You are obviousally a poser or wannabe, You are not even aware of the first units who lived behing Japanese lines & done so much. I won't waste my time telling you about these men! You my friend do not know what the haell you speak of! When youbast out this kind of Bullshit from your pie hole you should do your homework!

  • @sgunsurgeon Hahah me? Do my homework? Dude my Dad was a Green Beret I think thats enough

  • @MrOhiostateboy LMAOROF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!! I'm not a Dude lad! I m a MARINE & will be forever! Just because your daddy was a Green Beret doesn't qaulify you as an expert in SpecOps! You have a lot to learn! The United States Marine Corps IS & alway's has been America's '911' ! It is what it is!!! lad!

  • @sgunsurgeon Hahaha your funny hahahahahah A marine? Really? Hahahahahha What a joke my friend, the Marines are simply the most deployed, they don't have any special ops hahaha....I have to admit my friend your very funnny, and you say my dad isn't an expert at spec ops and no one is but your one to talk "Mr.Marine" hahah dude you are hilarious....Come back when you actually have something worth talking about haha....Marines....haha

  • @sgunsurgeon Man it's just so funny that a Marine is downing on a Green beret....Hahah wow.....Marines.........hahaha­hahhaa

  • @MrOhiostateboy -------First of all i never downed your dad! Don't know a damn thing about him! I DOWNED YOU! You little worm ,get on here running your sewer about Spec Ops & you haven't even been in the regular Army! For your info young mag, THe Marine Corps is America's Expeditionary Force, 911 if you will, Marines are on every ship in every sea in the world ready to deploy a force in 24-48 hrs No Spec Ops..Go play on Facebook kid.your out of your league! Dad serving don't qaulify you expert!

  • @MrOhiostateboy ------- How old are are you boy? Just making shit up on here, I'm guessing 16 yrs. That's okay, I joined the Marine Corps 1 month after turning 17 yrs. old. Youngest Marine in Boot Camp & youngest on base when i went to FMF. I know the Marine Drill Instructors would love to have your ass standing on the yellow footprints, Doubt you could 'hack it' though, A Marine unit conducted some of the first true Spec Ops in WWII. Just 'google' Evans Carlson, OR Carlsons Raiders,.........

  • @sgunsurgeon Marine boot camp is overrated so get over yourself you big whining pansy, who gives a shit what some guy in WWll did, it wasn't a founded Spec Ops group ok? One person performing a spec ops mission doesn't make him some spec ops leader. For you to down the Green Berets is ignorant and disrespectful and they do a hell of alot harder missions then you simple infantry units. By the way good for the Damn Marine Instructers, they wouldn't last the SF Cue course or selection.

  • @MrOhiostateboy are you kidding me the green berets training is 4 pussys i just watched some show on it the other day and like 50 people quit and were throwing up because they had 2 roll on the ground and have all 12 of the people in there group lift a 1000 lb log over there heads and they did that for like 2 hours and they were throwing up and quiting so i think marine boot camp may just be well... lets just say a fuck of alot harder

  • @christhegreatish You realize that half the things on that show weren't shown due to it being classified. I laugh at you because first of all marine boot camp is for pansies, second of all if your going to call one of the most elite fighting forces in the world "Pussy's" Then you should be able to back it up and guess what? Did you know this? The Green berets and retired Green berets train Force recon, and Seals, and some of the AirForce crap. That is what is funny because the Marines have

  • @christhegreatish They train MARSOC and the SEALS so you are just downing everyone on that. I hope you also know that the "Show" you watched is SF selection, IF you make it through that then you go to the CUE course which is 100x harder and way harder then any marine crap.THEN they go to different courses for land navigation, Demolition and explosives, weapons etc. So Shut up because those people throwing up on that show weren't even close to becoming one and you would never make it in selection

  • @MrOhiostateboy ok say that to my face or post your address and see what comes your way

  • @christhegreatish Wow your cool aren't you? Your probably a 10 year old

  • @MrOhiostateboy i know i'm cool and i could kick your ass too so post your address you pussy

  • @christhegreatish Wow you dickwad how much you bench huh? how much you squat huh? You play rugby or soccer? You damn pussy shut the fuck up! You don't even know what your talking about thats why you keep changing the conversation so your the real pussy you ignorant dick licking piece of shit i would truck your motherfucking ass so shut the fuck up!!!!!!!