I guess it was a mixed bag. Ron Paul won the straw poll, neocon Dick Cheney gave the Defender of the Constitution award to neocon Donald Rumsfeld, and they got booed by Ron Paul supporters, and neocon Allen West gave the keynote speech.
dont put anything past ron paul, the political arena is on FIRE. the villagers are storming frankenstien's manor with torches and pitchforks, we have a real chance this time
@TheLoyalOfficer Traitors? Ron Poopyface Paul has worked for Al Quida while in the Nazi Communist KKK Party. And he also gets most of his campaign funds from the President of Iran and 9/11 truthers.
@TheLoyalOfficer pay no attention to that guy hes astoundingly uninformed and a liar, he has a short anti ron paul vid that flat ass lies about his age, keep up the good fight bro we have a real chance this time
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This Hitler-like Anti-Americanism cult of personality of Ron Poopyface Paul is disgusting. Ron Paul is a far left communist loon inspired by Marx and the KKK. They worship that old fart like he is god, when Ron Paul is a Muslim fat obese poopy head!
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@kevlonk Wake up and realize that most Americans hate Ron Poopyface Paul and his son Iran Paul. We need real change in Washington, and not change that will bring a KKK communist caliphate! Ron Paul is just a cranky old fart who smells like poop!
This is so true. Time and again the Republicans have been willing to bend their values to conform to an aire of electability. That's what brought us Bush I, Bob Dole, Bush II and lastly John McCain. It wouldn't surprise me to see the "Conservatives" of Florida foist another one on us again like they did with McCain. Can you see red white and blue signs of Bush III in 2912? It wouldn't surprise me.
This is WHY the CPAC conservative movement is DEAD and the communist liberals no it. Both parties believe our military is the “world’s policemen”! Cut off all Foreign Aid its unconstitutional and Americans are BROKE!
If one defines liberal as a person who pushes for 'social justice' utilizing government to redistribute wealth from the wealthy to the poor? Not the same thing as a communist (a person who would want equal distribution through government means), but in the same philosophical vein, there for not an oxymoron.
@VriskaSerket so by that line of reasoning i can assume that you also think that libertarians and conservatives share the same philosophical vein? there are more to these philosophies than just the few items you listed. In fact, many ideologies have things in common, but for the most part, they are entirely different things. So what other criterion are you using?
@Xenthoid Maybe instead of defining liberal and communist we should define oxymoron. 'A figure of speech that combines contradictory terms'. There are things a communist and a liberal could be contradictory on. However I would also say that liberal is too loose a term (in some senses of the word, such as the classical liberal, they don't even stand for social justice), however communist is far more narrow. The only criteria to being a communist is a belief in equal distribution of wealth.
Ergo, one can be a liberal and a communist simultaneously. I'd say it is a rare breed, but not impossible. And yes, one can be conservative and libertarian at the same time. Ron Paul is a very good example of how this is possible, where in the views of how government mechanics work are libertarian (or liberal in the case of the former) but personal views held and personal desires of a society are conservative (or communist, as the case may be- not all communism fits into Marxism).
@VriskaSerket will i understand that these "-isms" aren't mutually exclusive, however i find that with people, even with ron paul, that they will define themselves irrespective of the actual definition of the word. Like i noticed that some conservatives have discovered that they are libertarian even though they still hold rather neoconservative points of views on foreign policy or still is moderate when it comes to matters of authoritarian policies, i don't think they are libertarian.
What you are essentially saying is the world must be in a plain black and white lens, though I don't think you meant to. One must either be libertarian or conservative, one can not be both.
One could be pro-life (a conservative trait) but be for ending the drug war (a libertarian trait). Likewise they could believe in protecting traditional family values in one instance, however they could also believe in gay rights in another. Communists can hold radically different social views as well.
@VriskaSerket I do understand you point however i like to make it a point to draw a distinction from these various -isms. I think the term oxymoron is still justifiable here, while American liberalism and said socialism or communism have some overlaps there are many areas where they don't have much in common. The same would be true for libertarian and conservative.
@VriskaSerket As for Paul, will he is said to be Pro-life, I dont see him trying to legislate morale or favor authoritarian approaches to meet those means. However does that out weight his other views which seem to be more libertarian than?
@Xenthoid wtf are you talking about? Ron Paul has defended the rights of states to prohibit certain sexual conduct between consenting adults (see his article "Federal Courts and the Imaginary Constitution" on Texas' sodomy laws having gotten ruled unconstitutional) and has himself introduced the Sanctity of Life Act, that would have defined life as beginning at conception and thus making every act of abortion murder. Talk about legislating morality.
the gop conservative think rush bimbo is an american hero.think about that... a draft dodging,drug addict,trice divorced, liar(see drug addict)this is what the gop presents as a CONSEVATIVE. but the pauls are evil?they dont want to see americans die for koreans or israelis?
I actually like Gary Johnson as a candidate as well as Paul. If the republicans go with another neo-conservative candidate they are just running as democrat light; fewer calories with same bad aftertaste albeit a more watered down bad aftertaste.
ha why do people even bother with this? he has as much chance as Nader to become POTUS. The political sludge machine that runs things don't want change, and the people who call themselves conservatives are as full of shit as the dem status quo that call themselves progressives.
Most Mitt Romney’s people at CPAC were votes bought and paid for; Ron Paul’s people bought and paid for themselves. Romney's 23% would be about 2% without the paid for voters. Romney is the progressive wolf in conservative clothing. Ron Paul is not really conservative, he's just honest!
Prosperity is IMPOSSIBLE while a Central Banking with Fiat Debt-Currency & Fractional Reserve Banking allows Deficits.
The Fed corrupts crony politicians with power to borrow, debase & spend to buy “support” from Special Interest Groups, Unions, “Too Big to Fail” Corporations, the Military-Industrial Complex & Wall Street Cartels.
Central Banking = Political Bribery & Cronyism!
Watch: “Money, Banking and the Federal Reserve" here on YouTube.
@night2187 No, I did NOT forget the "War on Drugs" aka War on American's Freedom to do what they want with their own bodies.
The War on Drugs is about Authoritarian Tyranny of Central Planning and the Prison-Industrial Complex is just a part of that as is the suspension of the Bill of Rights that makes the "War on Drugs" possible.
Central Banking with Fiat Debt-Currency & Fractional Reserve Banking gave birth to the most evil political trends in the history of this world; communism, socialism, fascism, state-corporatism & the despotism of central economic planning.
necons aren't liberals. both sides like to dismiss people they don't like as the other side. doesn't mean that necons are conservatives. but they are not liberals. we need to cut the hateful and blanket type rhetoric on all sides.
I read the article on Fox after the straw poll. It listed Ron Paul as the #1 loser, and Romney as the #1 winner. The reasoning given was because RP spoke of ending the wars and bringing the troops home. Wtf is wrong with these people? Why do they want our guys to be in harms way for nothing? Insanity.
The department of defense is responsible for about half of the entire government budget. If Republicans are serious about cutting the budget they need to go where the money is.
why did Rand call them conservatives? The empire militarism is the biggest welfare program of them all. The difference is it's taking place mostly outside of our borders.
Jack I like the title of this article a lot. It does appear that conservatives have to hijack there own political committee just to get a conservative message across.
@yojimbo81 I'll admit the prospect of two landing on the same ticket wouldn't work or happen. As a supporter of Ron Paul and an active outdoors man I am scared by the deregulation of government to an extent. I think a member of the green party as well as a non- corporatist would give balance to Dr. Paul. I don't think the man's vision is balanced and to bring that balance you would have to choose someone who isn't a member of the existing status quo in Washington. I must think more on this
@kraksc What's "unbalanced" about freedom and Constitutional rights? Two polar political opposites does not make a ticket "balanced". It makes the ticket a nightmare that will fail. I say run Ron and Rand or Ron and Gary Johnson. Freedom ticket all the way.
@yojimbo81 This is why I hesitate to take him seriously. We cannot rely on the Saudi's and the stability of the middle east any longer. In order for him to cut our ties/aid to the middle east countries we must have our ENERGY INDEPENDENCE! I'm totally for the rest of Dr. Paul's Political stances. I just think he is missing the boat completely on this issue. Finally I don't want oil rigs of the coast of Charleston or any where within 1000 miles from my home! I voted Bob Barr last time!
@kraksc That's why we drill for our own oil until other alternatives are found. Look into Paul's views. He votes against anything that does not stay in line with Constitutional powers or expands the government.
@yojimbo81 NO NO NO No drilling! America has been talking about alternative energy for longer than I have been alive. It's time to put up and shut up! I have an ever wavering political stance which I find healthy because it challenges me to look for information from all different sources. I know how Ron Paul votes and has voted for the last 20 something years. I only wish the man would fight for our enviorment as hard as he fights for unborn fetuses! Over population is here what do we do?
@kraksc No drilling? You want to keep getting our oil from the Saudi's for years until new systems can be put in place? Or do you advocate the heavy hand of government to tax and spend our way energy independence? What do we do until we reach that point? I say drill our own oil and put Americans to work.
@yojimbo81 If your plan is consistent with Ron Paul's plan then I will not be contributing to his campaign like I did 3 years ago. As an Independent I will reserve my vote for the candidate who proves to me that this issue is at the forefront of his agenda. Let me say this as well if Michele Bachman is the spokesperson for the tea party I am through with them as well.
@kraksc Do more research on Paul, his values and why he votes the way he does. It's more than a simple "yea" or "nea". Unlike most elected officials Paul actually reads bills and will never vote for bills riddled with pork and covert government expansion. You don't appear to be inclined to liberty at this point in time. For the record Michelle Bachmann has nothing to do with Ron Paul, Jack Hunter or libertarian minded folks.
When will Ron paul be conservative and vote for less legal immigration and zero illegal immigration? His record on immigration is surprisingly poor. However, I still like him over anyone else. He is a very truthful person and is fearless in his call for reduced foreign intervention.
If we do not reduuce immigration soon we will become a tribal nation, ungovernable and unworkable.
We will know whether or not the tea party is the real deal, when the extremists in the government stage phony terror attacks in order to frame the tea party..In fact, I would go so far as to say (though I cannot substantiate this claim, just a gut feeling) that this is how the neo cons were able to HORN IN on the tea party, by threatening to stage terror incidents if they didn't allow the movement to be co-opted.
I think the time has come to find a new term to describe Paulites and libertarian thinkers. The term "conservative" simply has lost all it's meaning. The mainstream GOP/Romney "conservative" is nothing more than a small step below fascism.
There is one inaccuracy. When Americans speak of traditional conservatism, they often seem oblivious to the fact that American conservatism is atypical and isn't the same as the traditional conservatism in the larger Western tradition. European traditional conservatives often were supportive of big govt and big church and often were wary of the landed gentry and the business class. Big govt conservatism is traditional conservatism and classical liberalism isn't traditional conservatism.
@MarmaladeINFP Burke and the French counterrevolutionaries were not uncritical supporters of capitalism, since they could conceive of ways in which it might conflict with the civilization they were defending. I could see Burke supporting something like the National Trust in Great Britain. But they did not support big government. They were critics of the French Revolution, which gave rise to a tyrannical bureaucracy. They supported the Catholic church as an institution integral to civilization.
@scottvska Part of the confusion is that there have been many versions of conservatism. So, you can always find someone who agrees with your own view of conservatism. Being against violent revolutions that lead to tyranny doesn't oppose being for big govt. Radical change like the French Revolution happens when big govt fails. The traditional conservative wanted a govt to ensure a stable society to avoid such tragedies. As for the Catholic Church, it's one of the oldest big govts.
@scottvska A conservative view that appeals to me is the one described by Henry Fairlie. He wrote a number of essays about Toryism and big govt. Some consider his views to be romantic & I'm sure today's Tories are very different. He describes Tories, at least in the past, as being suspicious of capitalism. As I see it, a conservative is someone who supports anything that increases & opposes anything that decreases the stability of traditional institutions & of social order.
I guess it was a mixed bag. Ron Paul won the straw poll, neocon Dick Cheney gave the Defender of the Constitution award to neocon Donald Rumsfeld, and they got booed by Ron Paul supporters, and neocon Allen West gave the keynote speech.
MyTotalRemedy 7 months ago
911 : THE ACCUSATION - KEVIN SMITH SH0W & ROBERT JAN KELDER
LATELIERDELALIBERTE 9 months ago
3:00 Rand's idea of reducing the military budget (ca. 20% of the overall federal budget) is cutting it by a measly 6.5%.
shamusername 10 months ago
Paulbots are loudmouths and conservative paleotards rather than principled libertarians. What else is new?
shamusername 10 months ago
dont put anything past ron paul, the political arena is on FIRE. the villagers are storming frankenstien's manor with torches and pitchforks, we have a real chance this time
UniteForgetLeftRight 1 year ago 2
2012
Ron Paul for President
Rand for VP
no2globalism 1 year ago 2
wtf? How can you ignore Gary Johnson in all this?
nbritton 1 year ago
I don't share your political ideology, but you do a great job pointing out the irrationality of America's mainstream conservatives.
clizzaster 1 year ago
mmmmm smells like truth and constitutional principles. Ron Paul 2012 Sorry fake conservatives and fake liberals
fullcd 1 year ago 2
Paul/Paul in 2012!
heymisterderp 1 year ago
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The only reason Ron Poopyface Paul won is because he shipped in tons of his supporters from Iran.
ProgressiveInAmerica 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica Troll fail, troll.
Take your worthless, Israel-owned, debt producing empire and shove it up your owed-to-China ass.
We're bringing the troops home and saving those dollars, regardless of what fear mongering you neocon traitors perpetrate.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@TheLoyalOfficer Traitors? Ron Poopyface Paul has worked for Al Quida while in the Nazi Communist KKK Party. And he also gets most of his campaign funds from the President of Iran and 9/11 truthers.
ProgressiveInAmerica 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica Wow, that's just a constellation of neocon douchebaggery!
I love it! You're Israeli-owned ass is going DOWN. Mark my words! You heard it here first.
The American empire will be the first in the WORLD taken down by the people themselves. Why? Because we are just that awesome.
TheLoyalOfficer 1 year ago
@TheLoyalOfficer pay no attention to that guy hes astoundingly uninformed and a liar, he has a short anti ron paul vid that flat ass lies about his age, keep up the good fight bro we have a real chance this time
UniteForgetLeftRight 1 year ago 2
@ProgressiveInAmerica Please learn to spell first before ranting, dunce.
Xenthoid 1 year ago
@Xenthoid Please learn to shut your racist mouth!
ProgressiveInAmerica 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica Please have proof to back up said "racist" charge before opening your mouth.
Post Fail
Xenthoid 1 year ago
NEOCONS!!!
takadi 1 year ago
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This Hitler-like Anti-Americanism cult of personality of Ron Poopyface Paul is disgusting. Ron Paul is a far left communist loon inspired by Marx and the KKK. They worship that old fart like he is god, when Ron Paul is a Muslim fat obese poopy head!
ProgressiveInAmerica 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica
Fail troll is Fail.
TheMango121 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica Post Fail
Life fail
Xenthoid 1 year ago
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Southern Avenger? More like racist KKK neo-nazi communist avenger who hates America and freedom.
ProgressiveInAmerica 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica communist? kkk? wow this is a real hard fail bro.
xtrafranky 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica Whatever you say TerrorWarrior5000/HomelandDefender/That Loser With Nothing Better To Do Than Troll People
kevlonk 1 year ago
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@kevlonk Wake up and realize that most Americans hate Ron Poopyface Paul and his son Iran Paul. We need real change in Washington, and not change that will bring a KKK communist caliphate! Ron Paul is just a cranky old fart who smells like poop!
ProgressiveInAmerica 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica Haters gonna hate.
kevlonk 1 year ago
@ProgressiveInAmerica ummm..... A cranky old fart who smells like poop?? Wow...
tracybeanz 1 year ago
Mitt Romney? How's that for proof we need a real third party!
meandean222 1 year ago
This is so true. Time and again the Republicans have been willing to bend their values to conform to an aire of electability. That's what brought us Bush I, Bob Dole, Bush II and lastly John McCain. It wouldn't surprise me to see the "Conservatives" of Florida foist another one on us again like they did with McCain. Can you see red white and blue signs of Bush III in 2912? It wouldn't surprise me.
vipero00 1 year ago
Right o jack
cathrasher1974 1 year ago
Ron Paul surrounded by cute, young men; I'm jealous:)
wolgreth 1 year ago
This is WHY the CPAC conservative movement is DEAD and the communist liberals no it. Both parties believe our military is the “world’s policemen”! Cut off all Foreign Aid its unconstitutional and Americans are BROKE!
GlobalMinority 1 year ago
@GlobalMinority communist liberals is an oxymoron
Xenthoid 1 year ago
@Xenthoid Depends on how you define either term.
VriskaSerket 11 months ago
@VriskaSerket hmm..not really
Xenthoid 11 months ago
@Xenthoid
If one defines liberal as a person who pushes for 'social justice' utilizing government to redistribute wealth from the wealthy to the poor? Not the same thing as a communist (a person who would want equal distribution through government means), but in the same philosophical vein, there for not an oxymoron.
VriskaSerket 11 months ago
@VriskaSerket so by that line of reasoning i can assume that you also think that libertarians and conservatives share the same philosophical vein? there are more to these philosophies than just the few items you listed. In fact, many ideologies have things in common, but for the most part, they are entirely different things. So what other criterion are you using?
Xenthoid 11 months ago
@Xenthoid Maybe instead of defining liberal and communist we should define oxymoron. 'A figure of speech that combines contradictory terms'. There are things a communist and a liberal could be contradictory on. However I would also say that liberal is too loose a term (in some senses of the word, such as the classical liberal, they don't even stand for social justice), however communist is far more narrow. The only criteria to being a communist is a belief in equal distribution of wealth.
VriskaSerket 11 months ago
Ergo, one can be a liberal and a communist simultaneously. I'd say it is a rare breed, but not impossible. And yes, one can be conservative and libertarian at the same time. Ron Paul is a very good example of how this is possible, where in the views of how government mechanics work are libertarian (or liberal in the case of the former) but personal views held and personal desires of a society are conservative (or communist, as the case may be- not all communism fits into Marxism).
VriskaSerket 11 months ago
@VriskaSerket will i understand that these "-isms" aren't mutually exclusive, however i find that with people, even with ron paul, that they will define themselves irrespective of the actual definition of the word. Like i noticed that some conservatives have discovered that they are libertarian even though they still hold rather neoconservative points of views on foreign policy or still is moderate when it comes to matters of authoritarian policies, i don't think they are libertarian.
Xenthoid 11 months ago
What you are essentially saying is the world must be in a plain black and white lens, though I don't think you meant to. One must either be libertarian or conservative, one can not be both.
One could be pro-life (a conservative trait) but be for ending the drug war (a libertarian trait). Likewise they could believe in protecting traditional family values in one instance, however they could also believe in gay rights in another. Communists can hold radically different social views as well.
VriskaSerket 11 months ago
@VriskaSerket I do understand you point however i like to make it a point to draw a distinction from these various -isms. I think the term oxymoron is still justifiable here, while American liberalism and said socialism or communism have some overlaps there are many areas where they don't have much in common. The same would be true for libertarian and conservative.
Xenthoid 11 months ago
@VriskaSerket As for Paul, will he is said to be Pro-life, I dont see him trying to legislate morale or favor authoritarian approaches to meet those means. However does that out weight his other views which seem to be more libertarian than?
Xenthoid 11 months ago
@Xenthoid wtf are you talking about? Ron Paul has defended the rights of states to prohibit certain sexual conduct between consenting adults (see his article "Federal Courts and the Imaginary Constitution" on Texas' sodomy laws having gotten ruled unconstitutional) and has himself introduced the Sanctity of Life Act, that would have defined life as beginning at conception and thus making every act of abortion murder. Talk about legislating morality.
shamusername 10 months ago
@shamusername Well i cant say i am familiar with that. I don't really follow up on him to that extent. However, i will look at article.
Xenthoid 10 months ago
the gop conservative think rush bimbo is an american hero.think about that... a draft dodging,drug addict,trice divorced, liar(see drug addict)this is what the gop presents as a CONSEVATIVE. but the pauls are evil?they dont want to see americans die for koreans or israelis?
mikeyramone33 1 year ago
Gary Johnson deserved a positive mention in this clip.
continuityofliberty 1 year ago
I actually like Gary Johnson as a candidate as well as Paul. If the republicans go with another neo-conservative candidate they are just running as democrat light; fewer calories with same bad aftertaste albeit a more watered down bad aftertaste.
night2187 1 year ago
ha why do people even bother with this? he has as much chance as Nader to become POTUS. The political sludge machine that runs things don't want change, and the people who call themselves conservatives are as full of shit as the dem status quo that call themselves progressives.
lockwoodisafaggot 1 year ago
Most Mitt Romney’s people at CPAC were votes bought and paid for; Ron Paul’s people bought and paid for themselves. Romney's 23% would be about 2% without the paid for voters. Romney is the progressive wolf in conservative clothing. Ron Paul is not really conservative, he's just honest!
MsWanderer1 1 year ago
Jack is right on as always.
TulliusVII 1 year ago
I dislike Romney more and more everyday. And I am Mormon.
Republicrats need to go to hell already.
rsoarch7 1 year ago
Statists are Statists!
Prosperity is IMPOSSIBLE while a Central Banking with Fiat Debt-Currency & Fractional Reserve Banking allows Deficits.
The Fed corrupts crony politicians with power to borrow, debase & spend to buy “support” from Special Interest Groups, Unions, “Too Big to Fail” Corporations, the Military-Industrial Complex & Wall Street Cartels.
Central Banking = Political Bribery & Cronyism!
Watch: “Money, Banking and the Federal Reserve" here on YouTube.
END THE FED!
yakyakyak69 1 year ago 2
@yakyakyak69 You forgot the legislation that promotes the prison industrial complex.
night2187 1 year ago
@night2187 No, I did NOT forget the "War on Drugs" aka War on American's Freedom to do what they want with their own bodies.
The War on Drugs is about Authoritarian Tyranny of Central Planning and the Prison-Industrial Complex is just a part of that as is the suspension of the Bill of Rights that makes the "War on Drugs" possible.
yakyakyak69 1 year ago
Central Banking with Fiat Debt-Currency & Fractional Reserve Banking gave birth to the most evil political trends in the history of this world; communism, socialism, fascism, state-corporatism & the despotism of central economic planning.
yakyakyak69 1 year ago
Damn, I'm glad I subscribe to SA's videos -- you are The Real Deal, no BS!
Thank you!
mcwong1 1 year ago
I will vote for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson in the primary. Either of those men are true patriots and will have my support.
johnqpublic81 1 year ago
"Conservatives Hijack CPAC"? All I have to say is.
ALLELUIA!
nbenicewicz 1 year ago
necons aren't liberals. both sides like to dismiss people they don't like as the other side. doesn't mean that necons are conservatives. but they are not liberals. we need to cut the hateful and blanket type rhetoric on all sides.
soavifox 1 year ago
Wait, CPAC polls can mean less?
korwinblue 1 year ago
Great work Jack! You do a great job with these videos. Enjoyed your speech a CPAC!
dpetersen45 1 year ago
I read the article on Fox after the straw poll. It listed Ron Paul as the #1 loser, and Romney as the #1 winner. The reasoning given was because RP spoke of ending the wars and bringing the troops home. Wtf is wrong with these people? Why do they want our guys to be in harms way for nothing? Insanity.
smttysmth02gt 1 year ago
Ron Paul is not the only one who would follow through on massive budget cuts. There is one other: Gov. Gary Johnson.
josiahwschmidt 1 year ago
Ron Paul needs to have a nation wide job search for a candidate to run with him as a judge... like real American Idol
btigtime2 1 year ago
NEOCONS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! TROTSKYITES ALL!
NEPatriot 1 year ago
The department of defense is responsible for about half of the entire government budget. If Republicans are serious about cutting the budget they need to go where the money is.
ArcticSlicer 1 year ago
There is NOTHING Conservative about Government a bunch of DemoCon fools
Who will the FED SELECT as their PIMP to manage the American prostitutes this time?
411American 1 year ago 2
good video
bigjames88 1 year ago 2
Jack! Where is Chris Christie in your video???
lrn2wlk4life 1 year ago
Thank you, Ron... Paul! :-D
LiberAnarchy 1 year ago 3
why did Rand call them conservatives? The empire militarism is the biggest welfare program of them all. The difference is it's taking place mostly outside of our borders.
TheEbonicslover 1 year ago
YES!!! ...just yes.
JarellB0w 1 year ago
Jack I like the title of this article a lot. It does appear that conservatives have to hijack there own political committee just to get a conservative message across.
shiftstart 1 year ago
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shiftstart 1 year ago
Ron Paul - Rand Paul - The Galactic Alignment of the Universe - 2012
rainbowschild 1 year ago 8
Paul & Nader in the same ticket. That would !be a Revolution
kraksc 1 year ago
@kraksc Please explain how this would work. I respect Nader but most of his views are radical statist.
yojimbo81 1 year ago
@yojimbo81 I'll admit the prospect of two landing on the same ticket wouldn't work or happen. As a supporter of Ron Paul and an active outdoors man I am scared by the deregulation of government to an extent. I think a member of the green party as well as a non- corporatist would give balance to Dr. Paul. I don't think the man's vision is balanced and to bring that balance you would have to choose someone who isn't a member of the existing status quo in Washington. I must think more on this
kraksc 1 year ago
@kraksc What's "unbalanced" about freedom and Constitutional rights? Two polar political opposites does not make a ticket "balanced". It makes the ticket a nightmare that will fail. I say run Ron and Rand or Ron and Gary Johnson. Freedom ticket all the way.
yojimbo81 1 year ago
Big Oil profits ok; Big Oil subsidies are not. (Jun 2007)
Voted NO on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution. (Jun 2009)
Voted NO on tax credits for renewable electricity, with PAYGO offsets. (Sep 2008)
Voted NO on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (May 2008)
Voted NO on tax incentives for renewable energy. (Feb 2008)
Voted NO on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC. (May 2007)
Voted NO on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jan 2007)
kraksc 1 year ago
@kraksc They call him Dr No for a reason. No problems there. He's a thorn to the feds and a lover of liberty.
yojimbo81 1 year ago
@yojimbo81 Voted NO on keeping moratorium on drilling for oil offshore. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on scheduling permitting for new oil refinieries. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001)
Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR. (Aug 2001)
Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. (Jun 2000)
Repeal the gas tax. (May 2001)
Rated 0% by the CAF, indicating opposition to energy independence. (Dec 2006)
kraksc 1 year ago
@yojimbo81 This is why I hesitate to take him seriously. We cannot rely on the Saudi's and the stability of the middle east any longer. In order for him to cut our ties/aid to the middle east countries we must have our ENERGY INDEPENDENCE! I'm totally for the rest of Dr. Paul's Political stances. I just think he is missing the boat completely on this issue. Finally I don't want oil rigs of the coast of Charleston or any where within 1000 miles from my home! I voted Bob Barr last time!
kraksc 1 year ago
@kraksc That's why we drill for our own oil until other alternatives are found. Look into Paul's views. He votes against anything that does not stay in line with Constitutional powers or expands the government.
yojimbo81 1 year ago
@yojimbo81 NO NO NO No drilling! America has been talking about alternative energy for longer than I have been alive. It's time to put up and shut up! I have an ever wavering political stance which I find healthy because it challenges me to look for information from all different sources. I know how Ron Paul votes and has voted for the last 20 something years. I only wish the man would fight for our enviorment as hard as he fights for unborn fetuses! Over population is here what do we do?
kraksc 1 year ago
@kraksc No drilling? You want to keep getting our oil from the Saudi's for years until new systems can be put in place? Or do you advocate the heavy hand of government to tax and spend our way energy independence? What do we do until we reach that point? I say drill our own oil and put Americans to work.
yojimbo81 1 year ago
@yojimbo81 If your plan is consistent with Ron Paul's plan then I will not be contributing to his campaign like I did 3 years ago. As an Independent I will reserve my vote for the candidate who proves to me that this issue is at the forefront of his agenda. Let me say this as well if Michele Bachman is the spokesperson for the tea party I am through with them as well.
kraksc 1 year ago
@kraksc Do more research on Paul, his values and why he votes the way he does. It's more than a simple "yea" or "nea". Unlike most elected officials Paul actually reads bills and will never vote for bills riddled with pork and covert government expansion. You don't appear to be inclined to liberty at this point in time. For the record Michelle Bachmann has nothing to do with Ron Paul, Jack Hunter or libertarian minded folks.
yojimbo81 1 year ago
Well said AVENGER!
fireman12888 1 year ago 2
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StephinRazin 1 year ago
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Right on the mark, Jack !
Mavrilon 1 year ago
When will Ron paul be conservative and vote for less legal immigration and zero illegal immigration? His record on immigration is surprisingly poor. However, I still like him over anyone else. He is a very truthful person and is fearless in his call for reduced foreign intervention.
If we do not reduuce immigration soon we will become a tribal nation, ungovernable and unworkable.
mrhulot101 1 year ago
@mrhulot101 The solution to illegal immigration is simple - take away the freebies. No welfare, food stamps, anchor babies etc. Less government.
megagagnon1 1 year ago 16
@megagagnon1 not really
Xenthoid 1 year ago
I am so happy to see so many young people promoting Ron Paul. There, in lies the future. Should we survive, a very bright future, there will be.
62636263c 1 year ago
Hell yeah Rand! stick to your guns Senetor!
jameslrd 1 year ago
The GOP has been hijacked by the J-team..they end.
MrHappy702 1 year ago
Rand is NO Ron Paul, but the two of them are miles apart from the majority Right.
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Don't expect much in 2012, but rest assured that history books are gonna favor Ron Paul in a BIG WAY and forget the rest...
hob976 1 year ago
OUT, with the Neo-Conseravtive warmongers !!
Nice analysis and commentary, Jack.
quaffer22 1 year ago 2
@controversyking Hear hear
InTheEndIWasRight 1 year ago
We will know whether or not the tea party is the real deal, when the extremists in the government stage phony terror attacks in order to frame the tea party..In fact, I would go so far as to say (though I cannot substantiate this claim, just a gut feeling) that this is how the neo cons were able to HORN IN on the tea party, by threatening to stage terror incidents if they didn't allow the movement to be co-opted.
TheFeralFury 1 year ago
I think the time has come to find a new term to describe Paulites and libertarian thinkers. The term "conservative" simply has lost all it's meaning. The mainstream GOP/Romney "conservative" is nothing more than a small step below fascism.
Drac39 1 year ago
@controversyking..totally true, true cons. like ron paul, mike savage and pat buchanan.
mike1988123 1 year ago
@mike1988123 Michael Savage has already said he doesn't like Paul's noninterventionist stance, that we need a more robust national defense.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
your best ed Jack
dnikandjam 1 year ago
DRAFT JACK HUNTER '14 Senate vs. Lindsay Graham.
Brought to you by the Committee to Unseat Lindsay Graham
freecon1 1 year ago 2
There is one inaccuracy. When Americans speak of traditional conservatism, they often seem oblivious to the fact that American conservatism is atypical and isn't the same as the traditional conservatism in the larger Western tradition. European traditional conservatives often were supportive of big govt and big church and often were wary of the landed gentry and the business class. Big govt conservatism is traditional conservatism and classical liberalism isn't traditional conservatism.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP Burke and the French counterrevolutionaries were not uncritical supporters of capitalism, since they could conceive of ways in which it might conflict with the civilization they were defending. I could see Burke supporting something like the National Trust in Great Britain. But they did not support big government. They were critics of the French Revolution, which gave rise to a tyrannical bureaucracy. They supported the Catholic church as an institution integral to civilization.
scottvska 1 year ago
@scottvska Part of the confusion is that there have been many versions of conservatism. So, you can always find someone who agrees with your own view of conservatism. Being against violent revolutions that lead to tyranny doesn't oppose being for big govt. Radical change like the French Revolution happens when big govt fails. The traditional conservative wanted a govt to ensure a stable society to avoid such tragedies. As for the Catholic Church, it's one of the oldest big govts.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@scottvska A conservative view that appeals to me is the one described by Henry Fairlie. He wrote a number of essays about Toryism and big govt. Some consider his views to be romantic & I'm sure today's Tories are very different. He describes Tories, at least in the past, as being suspicious of capitalism. As I see it, a conservative is someone who supports anything that increases & opposes anything that decreases the stability of traditional institutions & of social order.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
run Ron run
reaglevids 1 year ago 2
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reaglevids 1 year ago
Romney bussed em' in.
chewbaca1989 1 year ago
Neo Cons get erections at the thought of bombing a defenseless country
kjb86 1 year ago 13
@kjb86 Right.
bittergunowner12 1 year ago
@kjb86 Haha, I figure it would have been an orgasm
bittergunowner12 1 year ago
Did you hear YAF (young americans for freedom) kicked Ron Paul out of their organization because of his noninterventionist foreign policy ?
I think they lost their f***ing minds.
EDTHEWATERGUY 1 year ago 87
@EDTHEWATERGUY I did, it shows that the establishment is TERRIFIED of Ron Paul
bittergunowner12 1 year ago 2
@EDTHEWATERGUY
Wow, what a bunch of bloody fools. They let the Zionist / neocon fear merchants get to them. YAF has just totally discredited itself.
kmg501 1 year ago 3
@EDTHEWATERGUY William Buckley would be dissapointd to see his group like that. He was more Libertarian compared the YAF's current members.
Walnut1871 1 year ago
@Walnut1871 Not the way I understand his positions were. I think Murray Rothbard discussed William Buckley's conservatism at length.
n66178 1 year ago
@EDTHEWATERGUY Then I guess these young Americans aren't really for freedom are they?
bittergunowner12 1 year ago
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kjb86 1 year ago