What has the Scottish Government Ever Done for Us? SNP Political Broadcast 2011

[jimmy2k4o]

i'n not nieve i know most politicians are scum,  but Alex is the greatest thing to ever happen to s

Scotland

[JohnnyNorfolk]

Just wait when you have to pay for it all.

[willswindle]

but their all still in the pub..



[EqualityScotland]

What? There's Eric but no Jack and Victor?

[Bloodlovefreak]

Nice nod to Monty Python.

[midgetmatey]

i know wendy:D!

[scotsskier]

There's nothing left of the empire. The 'British empire' now consists of one island and a wee bit of a neighbouring one in the main. Soon to be half an island and a wee bit of a neighbouring one. As for unity; unity is only possible amoung equals. Scotland is Scotland; that's impossible to change. If Scots want to rule themselves, that's up to them.

[NOVATICANWARS]

@scotsskier If fascist sepratists.dripping with millions in foriegn gold,can incite enough Muslims, Blacks. clericals.to vote for them...We DO rule ourselves already. we have devolution and also send mp,s to the uk parliament(ditto the e.u parliament)Personally,and also millions like me FEEL Scottish and also British.dont see Any reason to break up the u.k,because a few"intellectuals", a few antiquity enthusiasts. a few parasites want to.

[scotsskier]

@NOVATICANWARS

Sorry, my pigeon English is rather crap. Hard to make out what you are saying. Can you please run that one by me again in formal English or ideally Scots? Many thanks.

By parasites do you mean midges? There are creams available for that if it helps at all.

[NOVATICANWARS]

@scotsskier Ha ha ha,why thats hilarious! i almost broke my chair...... laughing..

[scotsskier]

@NOVATICANWARS

Decent polite debate on both sides liberally dosed with humour is what's needed. Scotland does not need the punch and judy mudslinging politics which sadly have increasingly plagued westminster in recent decades. Not if any progress is to be made anyway. In the end, indepedendence is being fueled by strongly diverging N (centre-left)/S (centre-right) politics and it will be voters that decide ultimately what happens. Try Ikea for a new chair. Or maybe araldite? Cheers, SS

[NOVATICANWARS]

@scotsskier Punch n Judy,shame, resign, Hear hear!Well at least the u.k. Pariament has all these things(even if they cant keep our M.ps awake for long Contrast with the mood inside the third world airport(holyrood) Morbid, silent, artificial.etc . not a patch on the "mother of all Parliaments!

[scotsskier]

@NOVATICANWARS

Has there been a competition, i.e. ‘The Mother of all Parliaments 2011’? I didn’t realise – so Westminster won? Wow. I suppose Britain did win the ‘Greatest Country’ in the world title earlier this year according to Dave C. However I couldn’t find details strangely and Obama often disputes this when talking about the USA. Hmm ;-)

[ScottishCaledonian]

I am in no way a Unionist however you are very short sighted. The SNP are self proclaimed pro immigration. I love Scotland becuase it is homogenous and SCOTTISH. We have a very strong national identity and culture and a vote for the SNP will change this forever as they are hell bent on increasing immigration into Scotland.

The SNP will turn Homogenous Scotland into something resembling rampant multicultural England and I will not have it.

[Bloodlovefreak]

@ScottishCaledonian An independent Scotland will have no choice but to attach itself to the European Union so immigration is to be expected. Scotland does not have the means to be in a state of splendid isolation in an increasingly globalised world. Or, perhaps what you really meant was that you only mind the darker skinned people coming to Scotland.

[ScottishCaledonian]

@Bloodlovefreak "Or, perhaps what you really meant was that you only mind the darker skinned people coming to Scotland."

White immigrants are more preferable to third world migrants and most people thinkso

[NOVATICANWARS]

Any Party cld have done what these English Hating SEPRATISTS say they,ve doneBut.  most Party,s cld never beat these sepratist millionares at.. lying.THese hate filled bigots will tell any lie to get votes!They say nothing about Scottish citys Gettin filled with non white ImmiGration, COS THATS who votes for them! THE SnP "JUSTICE", Secretary RELeased a MASS MURDERER to get Islamic votes!!They support seperate schools, cos that brings votes!!THeY encourage anti english RACISIM for same!!

[Highheidyin]

@NOVATICANWARS Let me make this clear. Being a Scottish Nationalist does not mean we are Anti-English racists, in fact, I myself am half english. Time and time again have they kept the vast majority of their promises (84/94 promises), as listed in this video which is far more than the promises Labour gov has ever kept - that is far from lying.

Your comment on immigrants proves your ignorance as the Scot gov has no juristiction over immigration that is a power westminster keeps.

[NOVATICANWARS]

@Highheidyin Cldnt careless wether your half eskimo,Aborigine or what....The Sepratists are driven by a rabid anti English hate .as surely as the Grman Nazi,s were driven by an anti Jewish one.Wether you comprehend that i neither know nor care.THe SEpratist so called "national" party is led by decadant fascist self proclaimed"Intellectualls that despise the working class.These rich parasites .(nearly every one of the liars went to "University"!!)HAve NO policies ,bar one,and thats HATE England.

[Highheidyin]

@NOVATICANWARS - Ah dear me; you will never listen to reason will you? (rhetorical question). It is not a hate for england that drives us to independance - you do not know the SNP if you think otherwise. We merely want to address our own issues, to be self determining, as we are of  different ideology almost, form the rest of Britain - and the current gov shows this - we are more left wing, socialist even than the conservative government.

[NOVATICANWARS]

@Highheidyin More "Left Wing"??!! your a comedian!The MILLIONARES SOUTER HUNTER CONNERY<MURRAY .!! Big buisness THE "Scottish" bishops , the VATICAN. The Sepratist snp supported Hitler and all the other facsists in the thirties! Some of their leaders at that time WENT TO PRISON for inciting people NOT to Join the army , to fight hitler.They are Rich , Fascist ,BIGOTS, thats their core beliefs, but just like the Nazi,s this is , to a certian extent, obscured in their propaganda.

[Highheidyin]

@NOVATICANWARS

Also, there is nothing wrong with going to university. In fact it makes them more qualified in their field whether it be basic politics or healthcare (medical degree, nursing), Justice (law degree), education (teaching). That makes them most qualified to improve OUR services for us.

Words are wasted on you however, I suggest you invest in some logic; it will help you see sense instead of being blighted by stereotypes and sticking to the past. It will help.

[NOVATICANWARS]

@Highheidyin Logic??The smart coming from a self hating Englishman. Low caste Hindu,s have more self respect than you ever will have! Sterotypes and the past? The sepratists you support want to turn the clock back 1000 years! mythical tripe of "warrior"kelts" and clansmen(who.in reality were the biggest cowards.and worst soldiers ever to exist)!!I doubt if any of the fascist leeches are qualified in the subjects you mention.Its enough that they actually went to uni,for the to look down on other

[HaggisPowah]

@NOVATICANWARS anti English HATE? Are you out of your mind? It's the ridiculous concept of BRITAIN we hate, not the English people. Get real ffs

[NOVATICANWARS]

@HaggisPowah YOur Bang on! its the concept of the unity of the people of this island that you hateThe unity of people from Cardiiff . Bristol Dundee Sunderland Belfast Liverpool. The people and workers that built the greatest empire that Will EVER exist . on the face of the earth. Greater than the Roman Empire, the Empire of Alexander the Great The Persian EmpireThats what the united British people,s created, and thats what you hate!

[Highheidyin]

@NOVATICANWARS I bet you do not even know that this immigration is vital to keep Scotland growing as the white population are not reproducing enough to not need "non-whites" as you call them coming. These non-whites are improving not only Scotland but Britain as a whole and the fact you do not aknowledge that whites, e.g Europeans etc also move to Scotland indicates you are in fact a hypocritical racist that hates non-whites just as you claim nationalists hate the English - I don't hate myself.

[NOVATICANWARS]

@Highheidyin "Vital to keep Britian "GROWING"? Britian is Growing , without a doubt!!Queue,s for our National Health service,s are growing!!Millions of scroungers arrive in Britian every year. thats Growing!!Unemployement, repossesions. short time working, debt , depression..inner city deprevation? all growing!Britian is BURSTING withimmigrant parasites. The Seperatists Need the votes of these people.The Sepratist SNP are PARASITES who prefer immigrants,and Despise the white working class!!

[GamerInari]

@NOVATICANWARS And what about all those people claiming they are unable to work, and claiming benefits, when they are perfectly able? Hundred of people are "on the sick" and some of them actually want to work, but can't, while others are perfectly able to, but are taking advantage of the government. People complain about the work given to them, maybe even refuse to do the work, and then when an immigrant comes in and takes that job without any complaints, it becomes "They stole my job!"

[GamerInari]

@NOVATICANWARS And another thing that I couldn't fit into my last comment. Immigration is a reserved power? In other words, immigration isn't handled by the Scottish government. It's an international issue, and the Scottish government only deals with local issues. International issues are dealt with in England, so before you go ranting about how we're the blame for people coming into Britain, (which they have the right to do) get you facts right about what the SNP can and can't do.

[1966thewallace]

Freedom is the best thing for all people and nations any one who say,s this is wrong are small minded hard hearted.

[MrScottishJamie]

The negative comment people r jealous because we have snp protecting the locals while they have the tories making there nhs and other services useless just to make the trident nukes and the tories cut scotlands budget tell the tories no more cuts in scotlands budget vote yes to independence no more useless trident no more iraq wars vote snp a party that helps the people not build blommin nukes

[MrDelusionalPenguin]

Was this not ripped off a bunch of middle class english blokes messing around with BBC cameras?

[lisasimpson707]

Snp are the way we need to stand on our own two feetscotland has to

[Eedgit]

I reckon there's more than just oil keeping us tied to Westminster. If Scotland gains it's independence, it won't be just black gold that they lose, it will also be the ability to dictate who we go to war with too.

Without Scotland's army, Westminster would be seen as an easy target & they don't want to lose the ability to dictate to us who they decide to invade when they feel like it.

Can you imagine the terror in the halls of Westminster if Scotland said no more war? I can hear the screams

[Eedgit]

It's amazing how you come to realize just how well off us Scottish are, and no more so when your a million miles from home.

I can't wait to get my arse back to Scotland.

"I'm on ma way, from misery to happiness today..Uh huh uh huh uh huh"

[JorLuksza27]

I for one welcome 1000 new boabies to the beat.

[rcf789]

thank god for media studies.

[calger14]

Nice use of a english joke :P

[KlingongBane]

Monty Python rip off.

[geetarwanabe]

what about opening the gates to benefit cheats?

Freezing council tax, yes they did, to the point where the councils are having to fire teachers just to make ends meet.

Now they want independancy, which mean's we will go on the 'euro' and our economy will go to shit.

[pipoo1]

@geetarwanabe

It seems that its only the Labour Councils that are struggling. No surprise there given the state of the UK economy another benchmark of Labour "economics". I could mention the bankruptcy of Aberdeen City Council between 1995 and 2003 as another example...

[Sambamouse]

YEAH!

[puncher85438]

This has Monty Python (The Life of Brian) written all over it.

[donnachiefr]

@puncher85438 And that's why it's so enjoyable... Even though the SNP didn't give us sanitation, nor did they ever build any aqueducts!!! ;-p

[puncher85438]

@donnachiefr Or the roads don't Forget the roads

[ussyorktown1]

great to see the monty python spirit running onto pollitics

[MhairiDobbin]

Labour all the way :|

[MhairiDobbin]

Labour all the way :|



[Dossermac]

It's amazing what you can acheieve when westminister isn't involved!

[charlieiscool1000]

its amazing how poor scotland would become if they left the union no more aid from westminster giving 2 billion away to help improve the country.

[Morne555]

@charlieiscool1000 Its amazing how poor brittain is now because of westminster. 2 billion in "AID"? lol well scotland will have over 12 billion in oil and gas revenues per year to help improve the country if we went it alone, scotland does bring in ALOT of money considering we only have a population of 5 million. We are far from being a charity case lol but thanks for your concern but if i was you i would worry more about how the torys are going to make you poor lol

[charlieiscool1000]

The torys made us Very rich in the mid 80s early 90s plus got our money back from europe etc i suppose thats what you tell yourself every night before u go too sleep imagine scotland having its own tiny army and police force it just sounds obserd but then again its your choice if your allowed to leave the union that is have fun i wonder how many people realise that scottish law makers have no real say over what laws the EU makes so you wont even be fully independent anyway.

[Morne555]

@charlieiscool1000 lol well they didnt me rich! i was brought up during a ression and the torys were in charge then. Its all just boom and bust and its always the poor and working class that always takes the brunt of the it and i cant see them making anyone rich, well apart from making the rich richer lol. whats so bad about having a small army/police force? it would be proportional to the size of the population. Your right about EU but the EU cant tell us how to spend or borrow and invest ect

[shanksy67]

oh aye n a knew that wis gaelic pal, just the rest of what he was saying doesnae sound scottish -for instance who wants to have a weak prison system, a bungling parliament ( that basically represents a talk shop with no real power) you guys kin keep watching braveheart n dreaming all ye's want, but if we are to become independent we need to think of the practicalities...cannae just dream aboot n use gaelic terms -so you sort yersels oot n get back to me ..........

[97kcoats]

Watch my video called "Reality of the SNP" for the truth, these silly actors don't fool anyone. One of those women where from River City (BBC Soap)..Makes me sick.

[sheepystar]

@97kcoats They're better than the rest of them I'm afraid

[97kcoats]

@sheepystar, They're not, they have failed Scotland and these silly adverts don't fool me :)

[needtoys]

@coopers2005 in what way is the Scottish League Cup 'grass roots level'? That's not even the point though. I'm all for tgat money to be used for something meaningful. Football is not. How about using it for the victims of crime???

[sheepystar]

Not a bad election video alright. However, there's something so annoying about bad Scottish acting.

[shanksy67]

They also released a Murderer, in doing so shaming scotlands international reputation. How long has al megrahi lived since his release? its been a long three months. 

[CalumGilhooly]

@shanksy67 And if they hadn't released him on compassionate grounds, NuLiebore and the Yanks would have pressured them to release him for some other reason. Trying to nail the SNP for his release is CRAP! As for how long he has lived, being out of a mouldy prison and in the bosom of one's family in one's own country is a recipe for an extended life. He isn't exactly playing soccer for the national team or enjoying the high life. He is still at death's door.

Saor Alba!

[shanksy67]

@CalumGilhooly ..Well can't say am surprised. The FACT SNP MP'S released a murderer on the principle of MERCY is a disgrace to the victims involved in the incident. He should of (with gadaffi n his chums) spent the rest of his life in SCOTTISH prison. where are you from mr Saor Alba? doesnae sound like scotland anyway....look forward to your unsubstantiated, idiotic reply.

[CopiousJ]

@shanksy67 "Saor Alba doesnae sound like Scotland"? Do you know what Alba means, in the Gaelic language no less? SCOTLAND. Sort yersel oot. Oh, and did I miss the memo where Scots became as bloodthirsty and revenge-driven as Americans? When was mercy ever something to be ashamed of? International terrorism, that ghost of a threat, didn't receive a huge boost on Megrahi's release. All that happened was that a pathetic old man got to go home. Justice is about protecting society, not vengeance.

[shanksy67]

@CopiousJ Justice is a person being punished fully for what they have done. He was convicted under scots law; and was to NEVER be released. Its not revenge putting him infront of a court and judging that he is guilty and should spend the rest of his life in jail is it? that is JUST, it is UNJUST the fact that he has been released and is able to live a free life and turned into a hero - SNP facilitated that. also if ye care aboot mercy so much why not realease aw the ill prisoners? laughable

[CopiousJ]

@shanksy67 You're just wrong. What, the state's some omniscient arbitrator of right and wrong? Why give the government, of all things, a mandate to punish human beings as it sees fit? Prison's for keeping harmful people out of society's way; justice isn't a revenge machine, it's civilisation's mechanism for self-preservation. Also, you don't seem to be aware of how a "life" sentence works under Scottish law.

"Ignorance more often begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin

[Michael21089]

@shanksy67 Magrahi wasn't tried under Scots law he was tried in the Hague in Holland. Lord Hardy said that on the evidence provided no judge in Scotland would ever have found him guilty.

[CalumGilhooly]

@shanksy67, and a quick look at your channel reveals.......nothing much. The conviction of Megrahi was very unsafe, although the SNP denied that had anything to do with his release. Thanks to 'our friends' the Yanks, the evidence was cobbled together BULLSHIT! The chief witness was put on the witness protection programme and given a six figure sum to reward him for his fairy tale. See copiousJ's response below for more damage to your fatuous argument.

I'm frae Cambuslang, whur you fae?

[shanksy67]

@CalumGilhooly aww wee look at my channel aye well done. i'm from islay and now live in glasgow. so ye talk gaelic naturally then? or did ye learn that wee phrase. Mergrahi was found GUILTY others should be found guilty also and all of them should spend the rest of their life in SCOTTISH jails...but that will never happen because of the SNP and of course the yanks n probebly whoever is in number 10. SNP are still shameful to release a guilty man from prison on the basis that he is terminally ill

[CalumGilhooly]

@shanksy67 Why, do you think he might be a recidivist? I am not a Gael, no. I know a few words and love to listen to Gaelic. Don't go getting yer knickers in a twist about the SNP, I trust them about as far as I could throw them but they are the best of a bad bunch and certainly a better bet than NuLiebore and Elmer Fudd.

Saor Alba gu brath!

[shanksy67]

@CalumGilhooly I don't think he is a ricidivist . i'm not really getting my knickers in a twist either, it wis you that replied to my original comment. I'm commenting on the SNP in reply to their campaign broadcast, as all youtubers are entitled to do - thats why there is a comments facility. But to fair to you, i would agree SNP are probebly the best of a bad bunch; doesn't mean I can't have a negative opinion or critise them. Independence won't be happen under the current crop of snp

[CalumGilhooly]

@shanksy67 Fair enough. As I say, best of a bad bunch and I certainly won't be wasting my vote on any other party just now. Pray for independence and a slew of new Scottish parties to vote for.

Saor Alba!

[msheldon10]

glad to see the SNP going on the offensive by shouting loud about what they have acheived. i will certianly be giving them my vote this election. whilst they may have not been perfect, they have been good

Also like the staring role from jimmy chisolm. One of the finest stage actors this country has!

[Hogmagandy]

The SNP is Scotland's ONLY truly Scottish political party. The rest of them are just regional departments of UK parties. We Scots should be running our own country and should be responsible for our own affairs. If you're proud to be Scottish, you'll vote for Scotland, you'll vote for the SNP. Everything else is irrelevant while we're still under the yoke of the UK parliament.

[alanh6611]

@Hogmagandy Does this mean if I don't like the SNP I'm not proud to be a Scot?

[SuperRussell40]

There is more spin in the election broadcast than an English spin bowler at cricket. where do they get 330 schools they are buidling of refurbishing, from. They single handed put the construction Industry in to recession before the recession started because they put existing projects that were planned, on hold. Tehn took an eternity to put SFT in place.

Reduce class sizes....well I seem to remember they proposed reducing them to 18 for P1 - P3. Don't think so! Didn't hear this is the video.

[HamishArty]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand where have they gotten all the money to do this in times of 'austerity'? It seems like this kind of thing will win them votes, but where will it lead Scotland in the long term?



[needtoys]

...then there's the £1million they propose to waste by sponsoring the scottish league cup! Excellent use of our money Mr Salmond!

[Neosa5959]

@needtoys But what about the £600 million tram project forced on us by the liberals, labourites, and tories? Great use of our money, Iain Gray/ Tavish Scott/ Annabel Goldie!

[coopers2005]

@needtoys

"...then there's the £1million they propose to waste by sponsoring the scottish league cup! Excellent use of our money Mr Salmond!"

That is money reclaimed from criminals.

It will go to help improve football at grass roots level and some will also go to helping clubs work with their communities on issues including binge drinking, sectarianism & domestic abuse.

I don't think you can scoff at such a good use of ill gotten funds. Unless of course it is your crooked money! :)

[cameranzo1]

FANTASTIC, I LOVE IT!!!

[Alba12349]

VOTE SNP

[flamencobob]

Record levels of current and planned investment by oil companies in the North Sea don't persuade me the oil is running out soon. Against that day, however, the SNP-led Scottish Government has done more than any previous Scottish or UK Government to promote renewable energy, which, given our wind, tidal, and hydro resources will make us a net energy exporter (even without the oil) within the next twenty years. The Scottish economy is in profit, the UK in deficit. We can afford to go it alone!

[MrScottishJamie]

@flamencobob whats next westminster will be saying renewable energy, is running out lol we can indeed afford to go alone

[1scot4scotland]

@MrScottishJamie

"whats next... westminster will be saying renewable energy is running out"

Hahaha. Yes, that and the quality of the electricity is low grade and unreliable.

They will be telling the BBC weather dept to report that there is no wind and the rain (for hydro) has stopped.

Soon Scotland will be sunny, dry and a windless land where the tides cease to change and nuclear power stations will be Scotland's only option.

Time to rid Scotland of Westminster's lies, VOTE FOR THE SNP!

[mesmiths]

Any vote not for the SNP might let Labour in! I'd be terrified to have Ian Gray and his motley gang in charge.

[MrScottishJamie]

@mesmiths yes good point vote or labour will get in

[MrScottishJamie]

@mesmiths Iain gray in power that thought gave me nightmares lol lets vote snp in the next uk election but i hope we r independent before then

[Southsidestu]

I will call my friends and English family members what i like as that is how I see them perhaps i just have a perception that goes beyond arbiturary imaginary border lines drafted up by governments that existed centuries ago

[immortalliam]

stuart hamilton is awesome in this advert.

[segano1]

Brilliant video this should be posted to all unionist voters, that'll shut them up as the SNP have done an excellent job for Scotland the past 4 years, 94 manifesto commitments and counting, all from a party that still only has "minority status", even a die hard Labour supporter said just two weeks ago that although he doesn't support full outright Scottish independence, he'll be voting SNP because of the excellent job they've done so far, just imagine what SNP can do with a majority government.

[smartwarlord]

Did they only hire people with thick Scottish accents for this one? Pleasant surprise. FREE SCOTLAND / SAOR ALBA! Make sure to set up a Scottish equivalent of BBC while you're at it. the Scottish accent is irresistible.

[Southsidestu]

Its not so much the need of the Union (i do believe that the people of Scotland can govern themselves) its the belief in the union we fought in two world wars together, we go into the Olympics together, a third of colonial governors were Scottish, Glasgow my home city was seen as the empire's second city, i have English friends i see them as my countrymen, i see myself as a Scottish Brit and always will.

[smartwarlord]

@Southsidestu

I think you've got a fundamental mis-understanding of countrymen and unions. You, as a Scot have blood with all Europeans, however - you only have the same recent forefathers with the Irish, Scottish, Cornish, Manx and Bretons. (This is what makes you a Celt). You have close historical ties with the US, Canada, Australia and NZ. And you share a border with one of the most influential countries in human history - England. You should call them 'fellow islanders', not countrymen.

[segano1]

@smartwarlord "Celt" is a highly lose made up term from the 18th century that refers to the Indo-European invaders that originated in Iberia (modern day Spain), this is as opposed to the Germanic (Dutch, Franks, Norse, Saxons, Angles, Jutes etc).

The Celts didn't replace the native inhabitants of the lands they migrated too, they were eventually subsumed by the natives, leaving only cultural impacts.

The Scots largely descend from the native Pictish Caledonian ancestors as genetic research shows

[segano1]

@smartwarlord The historical ties to Canada, Australia, US and NZ is largely insignificant and irrelevant to Scotland's future best interests and is over represented to the Scots today.

The English are no more influential than the Scots were in their own right, Winston Churchill (English) says what no historian on this earth can argue with ~ "Out of all nations on this earth, perhaps only ancient Greece can beat the Scots when it comes to the contribution of mankind".

[smartwarlord]

@segano1

Those ties are absolutely relevant. That will help to create a stable Scottish economy, by its imports/exports to those countries. Scotland will need good allies to advance its views to the international community, in the same way the US was the first nation to recognize Irish independence, the US will be the first nation to recognize Scottish independence.

I did not claim in any way that the English contributed more than the Scots, that would be nonsensical.

[segano1]

@smartwarlord Cont..."Scots created the modern world in the same way that the ancient Greeks created the old world".

Also, sharing a close proximity border with a foreign nation does not make the people of either nation on each side of the border the same, the English are as different from the Scots as they are from the French across the Channel, they have their own origins in the way Scots have theirs.

Hence they will always be termed as another country rather than 'fellow islanders' to most.

[Southsidestu]

at the end of the day this is down to a viewpoint. When your banks are saved by the union, when Salmond focuses on our key resources being oil which is finite and tourism from the US now damaged by the release of Megrahi it inspires little confidence and maybe i was short sighted on Ireland but when you have a leader who says before the crash lets do it like Ireland and lets do it like Iceland and they both tank that again inspires little confidence.

[Southsidestu]

Nobody knows my economics better than myself and i would never claim to be an expert my higher education is based around English, Biology and Chemistry, in fact the focus point of my argument was not the economics but the short sightedness of Salmond, you know economics better than me clearly especially for your own country i am not going to walk into your backyard and try dictate play that would be narrow minded

[SeanOBriain]

@Southsidestu But you keep repeating that Salmond is trying to copy Ireland, and then making reference to the collapse of the Irish economy as if he it was that he was trying to mimic. Salmond wished to have a more competitive corporation tax rate to increase FDI, and to enable more local enterprises to be setup. Economically, this makes perfect sense. So why do you keep making reference to Ireland, when it's clear - the Irish economic collapse was not because of our corporation tax?

[urbiszx]

Alex Salmond is not the messiah. He's a very naughty boy

[smartwarlord]

@urbiszx

he's sort of a Messiah, as he'll be anointed (inaugurated) as Scotland's first democratically elected Head of State. (or Head of Government, if he runs for Prime Minister, I think he'd made a better figurehead, for Scotland though, as President).

[SeanOBriain]

..continued. So what the SNP was proposing was actually economically sound. Your high corporation tax limits the amount of FDI or local small to medium-sized enterprises that can be established - Which is exactly what would be required if Scotland was to become independent (In every sense of the word).

I actually find it interesting that you feel the Scottish people do not have the political tact to control their own affairs and Govern themselves. Scotland doesn't require the union.

[segano1]

@SeanOBriain Agreed, Scotland does not need the union, most unionists (particularly English too) seem to be emperialists that like the idea of the "Great British empire" and want to keep the pretence up that it still exists rather than what's best for Scotland alone.

[Southsidestu]

Unusual that the SNP would decide to rip off something from a group of performers who were one yank, one welshman and the rest English maybe he has finally got the message about no to independance.

Thank God we werent independant when the recession came about one bank was merged with and English one the other bailed out by the BRITISH taxpayer, not to mention Salmonds idea of following the economic models of Ireland and Iceland, plus his plan of sustainability with a renewable enrgy like oil.

[SeanOBriain]

@Southsidestu Um, I believe Salmond wished to reduce corporation tax, which would entice FDI and ease the process of local business startups. That was not the reason why our economy here in Ireland collapsed. It collapsed because of low interest rates from the ECB, which fueled a property bubble. It was because of our low corporation tax that we have any FDI retained at all.

You clearly lack an understanding of the economics of Ireland. Perhaps you might research before you post sound-bytes.

[Southsidestu]

@SeanOBriain So basically you are saying that a country that follows the economic model of Ireland will be fine and dandy no problems at all that Ireland is an exception? Corporation Tax and interest rates from the ECB are not the only factors in a successfull economy. Salmond believed in the Irish economic model which failed, our banks relied on Britain to be save them he underestimated what Scotland could achieve if it was independant which has been the focus of the SNP since day 1

[SeanOBriain]

@Southsidestu What I'm saying is that you don't understand what the actual failing of the Irish economy was, and what Salmond was proposing. The Irish economy did not fail because of it's low corporation tax rates, infact it prospered because of them. It's this aspect of the Irish economy that the SNP wished to mimic. The Irish economy failed because the ECB set interest rates that were low to benefit Germany, and not an open economy like Ireland - which fueled a property bubble.

[ChaosAddiction]

TOMMY SHERIDAAAAAAN

[19068210]

Slightly River City but get the point... 

[MrScottishJamie]

Go alex salmond this is proof what the snp has done for the public and businesses and nhs

[oxeatheman]

Alba Gu Brath!