St. Thomas Becket

[pbsfo]

by the way Liam, since my first post on this video and your reply, I have DL'd much more of E.S. Posthumus' music (yes, legally) because of your use of Ulaid here. Thanks for introducing me to the brothers Vonlichten.

[pbsfo]

In intro to his play "Becket," on which the film is based, Jean Anouilh tells of giving his finished play to a historian friend to read, who then tells him he's got the heritage wrong. Anouilh writes: "A large part of the subject of my play was based on the fact that Becket was of a vanquished race. ... for this drama, it was 1000 times better that Becket remained a Saxon." Footnote in George Greenaway's bio: Thomas' parents from Rouen & Caen, "both Normans" and middle-class citizens of London.

[jiko882]

did king Henry II ever regret that he made a mistake turning his friend Thomas Becket to become an archbishop of Canterbury?

that question make my head spin all the time... @.@ >.>

[kfkrobok]

The relationship between King Henry II and Thomas Becket somehow reminds me of the relationship between Capt. James Kirk and Dr. McCoy.

[TheRjb2010]

"If all the swords in England were pointed against my head, your threats could not move me" (Thomas Becket to his murderers)

I wonder if those who did the act ever had the courage to question Henry II before it was done?

[jenkinsurcool]

hes not a saxon

[KnightOwl2006]

Psalm 118

8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

[animegirlUK]

the relationship between Henry II and Becket always reminds me of the relationship between henry VIII and Cardinal Wolsey. Both Wolsey and Beckett rose from humble roots and took high office in the church. Both started out as close friends to the King but they were both torn between their allegiance to the King and to the church.. which led to their downfalls.

[lichtbroeder]

@animegirlUK An even more apt comparison is to compare Henry II and Thomas Becket with Henry VIII and Thomas More. Both St. Thomas Becket and St. Thomas More were Chancellor of England, both had the favor of the King, and both put God and His Church before that favor, finding martyrdom. May both saints bless us.

[liliansky]

Η ιστορία του Τhomas Becket αρχιεπίσκοπου του Καντέρμπουρι και του King Henry II από τον  Richard Burton και τον Peter O'Toole, γυρισμένη το 1964, παίζεται στο Ιντεάλ και στο Πτι Παλαι. Για εμάς τους νεώτερους που δεν την έχουμε ίσως δει....

[amaya8182]

spunk on a monk

[erunanne]

I love this film, one of my all time favourites. Superb acting, not seen anymore. It might not be historically accurate but the love-hate relationship is captured very well.

[coolbrian15]

watch the movie it calls Becket a saxon sevral times

[hardsofty123]

big pimpin'

[FANNYZURITA]

the music is gougeous where is it from

[Winaska]

i assume braveheart, but i might be wrong.

[Archangel3583]

Good movie (even if it does take a few historical liberties), good music and good video.

[ServusRomae]

Give Henry a lash at the end, please!

[8BILLL]

The monks, delicately stroked his back with fronds! I like the movie but the historical errors are annoying when not outlandish.  Henry II adored his mother, doted on Hal, and would never have spoken to Eleanor as portrayed in this movie.

[8BILLL]

The costumes were awesome, the acting superb BUT Henry II was turned into a simpering fool and Becket a Saxon! (WFT). Henry II was THE MAN, Becket was an ungrateful meglomaniac and could only be "made" a saint in the 12th century. He was murdered for abusing his power, not by evil men, and one last comment. Henry was ritualistic whipped, not beaten like a dog.

[coolbrian15]

im sorry but thomas becket preformed mircales thats why he is a saint becket died a maryter for christ and is my patron saint.

[8BILLL]

he was not a saxon and he was a very vain man who enjoyed the great comforts of his station and oh yeah  he lead an army that pillaged and raped

[coolbrian15]

his writings are in old english if becket was norman he would have written in latin or french plus monks said he spoke old english not french no norman would have spoken in english intill the 1370's

[tobit100]

St. Thomas Becket was a great saint because he turned from the princes of the world and toward God--Christ. He is very much to be admired in this secular age.

[yugioh3300]

i have to do thomas becket for homework

sooooooooooooooooo booooring

n whats with the music

[papamalo]

there's a way to deal with it, yugioh.

I know the language can sometimes be really boring. on the other hand think if the REAL subject. A high priest

A fabulously rich king,

Fights

Murder,

Trickery,

Political tricks.

just remember what bloodthirsty savages they were and the fact that you speak their language because they were so bloodthirsty and warlike.

write it from that point of view. (might get you an "F" but it'll be original)

[translationwiz]

This maybe too too late: Beckett was considered a traitor by his ppl. He was a saxon yes man for the Norman king.

womanizing and drinking pals...but once beckett got the highest religious position(by the king) in the land-his allegiance changed. The King felt unloved and betrayed by beckett for siding w/the church over the king after a lord murdered a priest.....Its a story of allegiance,principals;and morality...best friends turned enemies. Each w/his own brand of power. Church vs. State.

[8BILLL]

dude beckett was a norman not a saxon read a book for crying out loud

[coolbrian15]

beckett was pulled from a peasant faimly in london the peasants were still saxon in this period but the nobles and kings were norman so if becket started out a peasant he was of the saxon blood line the nobles who were norman did not marry saxons women intill the 15th century

[Winaska]

this is actually the one point that historians debate, most are sure he was a low-born Norman, but it is quite possible he was indeed a Saxon

[ImperialGuard9001]

@Winaska Makes no difference if was Saxon or Norman he was a good man regarless but appears that most evidence points out today that he was probaly a Norman

[translationwiz]

Youre right!.......I shouldn't have relied on Hollywood for such details. I apologize for misleading anyone. Beckett, like the king, was of Norman heritage. And I thank you for correcting me.

peace.

[bookkeeper57]

They took some liberty with the facts in making this film. A Saxon had no chance of being as well educated or privileged as Becket was. He was chancellor but never

asked for the archbishopric. Henry nominated him for the post to better manage the church in England. It didn't

work.

[Nipponkoku]

Nice uilleann pipe solo.

[soffeee]

biassseeed. Thomas Becket was actually just arguamentative, power-hungry and attention-seeking. And Henry II was way cooler than the film suggests.

[pbsfo]

Burton & O'Toole at their finest. Fell in love with Rich the first time I saw the film on public TV in the 1980s in the U.S. Thanks for posting this ... I'm in the middle of watching the movie on my iPod at work on Becket's feast day. What's the music you used here? Peace, pb

[juliusth4]

Song called: Ulaid by E.S. Posthumus

[AndreaCarradori]

Da notare, cosa assai rara, la perfezione , in ogni dettaglio, della Consacrazione Episcopale, secondo l'antico rito della Chiesa Cattolica.

Ottimi il regista e gli attori !

[pianist527]

All right Becki I just read it and sent you one. Thanks very much for your message

[victoriasvintage]

I meant Thomas Becket with one T. :)

[pianist527]

Becki I left you a message in regard to your video on Thomas Becket and Elvis' videos in your page but I do not see it there See please if you received it Great video this is Thanks for it

[victoriasvintage]

I got the message and just sent you a message. I just love this video. It is one of my favorite. Richard Burton is one of my favorite actors. Love his voice and accent. Plus Thomas Beckett cant be beat.