America had so many good doctors because that's were they will make tons of money. This is honestly like me saying i don't like American food cause i bought one thing from the grocerry store so all of it must be bad. also just thought of it what an idiot he's at a bad hospital so don't go to the one in the next city go to a hole other country. Also he says that insurance is expensive and they rely on it a lot and that it needs to be changed, but then he says just a little change.
Of course he would argue don't change anything, he has money, he could get special treatment possibly. Problem is how many husbands and wives how have had their partners catch things like cancer, had to sell their homes, and everything they own to get treatment. Great thing you stand for Brock, telling world you care about nothing but yourself, get a few more punches in the head.
In canada everyones treated the same. Brock must be use to the wine and crackers served to him in bed . And for Brock opposing health care reform is just selfish what about alll the working class americans?
@ricenchikn He went to an average hospital in north dakota idiot. It's not like he was flown into the best hospital right off the bat. You just don't like hearing that one of our worst hospitals is better than one of your best.
Lesnar says: "If I had been in Thailand or Puerto Rico, I would want to get back in the U.S. for my health care, you know?" apparently he doesn't understand that puerto rico is PART OF the usa. the retard is a fail and so is the fundy anti-science anti-healthcare movement in general. next!
@MrA5gregjockca lol he's a fuckng idiot. Hell who wouldn't enjoy the American health care system if they had millions of dollars. Which is what he dosen't understand
The reason insurance is so expensive here in the US is because the companies have a monopoly in each state like BluecrossBlueshield of Florida and Alabama and New York. If companies were allowed to compete nationally like auto insurance that would bring the price down significantly. The free market wil always improve things as long as it is allowed to flurish on its own without gov. intervention.
Canada IS a Socialist Country, far more so then the US but that is quickly changing due to their immense political corruption. Many, in fact most, hospitals in Canada are treading water while others are bankrupt and laying off most of their non-unionized employees. If Canada was that good why then do most of those who can get care in the States as well the States bring more medical advances to market then any other nation on Earth... Drop the Micheal Moron books and start seeking the facts...
@DrAvrington whatev. just fix your unemployment, american hicks. LOL. most of you assholes have never set foot in canada. ignorant know-nothing yappy asses as usual. that's why the world hates america more and more every year. keep it up. the nuke is coming, pricks. ROFL!
The basic crux here is the American system is based on Capitalism where efficiency and productivity are valued to allow for a well functioning organization where a profit must be achieved whereas under Canada's Socialist system the same organizational qualities are not valued. This is the basic and fundamental difference between Capitalism vs. Socialism. Socialism is always less productive and a failure. Winston Churchill, Barry Goldwater like Enoch Powell were write "equal spreading of misery"
@DrAvrington Canada is not a Socialist country. As for health systems, its ironic how the most marketized health system in the World is also the most expensive. Also odd how the US system has a far below average number of medical professionals per 1000 in relation to other OECD nations
@MrSparwoodapple "the most marketized health system in the World"
HAHAHAHAHHA
Are you kidding me!?!?! Do you have the slightest idea about how big a role the government plays in American healthcare distorting the free market? That's why prices are high.
The closest thing to free market healthcare would be Singapore's model. Look it up and learn!
@TimeWarp66 Really I suppose perhaps a place like Somalia may have more. Really Signapore which guarantees universal coverage to all people. Including government price controls. Among other controls and subsidizations from the government. I do very much like environmental regulations placed on corporations in regards to the environment.
Yes, Canada is so great that our best Dr.s go to the States and are replaced by those less qualified from the turd world thanks to our ineptness towards "multiculturalism", "embracing diversity" and other purely socialist schema. Why does anyone think that Danny Williams, along with an extensive list of other influential Canadians, flee to the States? Our Socialized healthcare system is bankrupt and many of our hospitals are bankrupt and laying off all those non-unionized employees.
@DrAvrington They get payed more money in the states thats why they go there. The hospitals in the states get more money because its rich people that go there.
@DrAvrington Actually since 2003 more Dr's move from the US to Canada then vice versa. In fact Canada has more GP's per capita then the US. As for Danny - Actually some well respected Cardiologist noted that his procedure has no waiting times. Furthermore if he lived in Ontario, he would have the option of having his Valve procedure done by the very people who invented it. As for bankrupt - direct me to your sources that are stating our hospitals are declaring "bankruptcy"
Brock's rich, healthcare in US is for rich people. Makes sense why he'd pick US over Canada for medical treatment. The people with the most money get the best healthcare.
American healthcare is nor for Rich people, it's for any person who wants good healthcare and doesn't want to wait in lousy socialist lines, where it takes months to get treated and resources are scarce.
@TimeWarp66 Healthcare is for rich people. Thats why rich people in Canada that want high-end quality treatment go to the states and pay those extra few tens of thousands of dollars to cut in front of the line of people who have less money.
It doesn't take months to get treated in Canada, you go to the hospital, he checks you, and prespcribes you medicine from the pharmacy. If you need surgery then it takes about a month. If its urgent and you are about to die you get surgery immediatly.
Because you CAN'T get high end quality care in Canada, so you come to the states. Canada has outlawed private insurance so people can't compare the 2 systems and realize the private sector does it WAY better.
@TimeWarp66 This is why in light have similiar incidences of major diseases, Canadians live longer. Is this why only up to 5000 Canadians went to the US for health care in 2008.? You make it seem like Canadians jam US/Can. border in a desperate attempt to seek private care. Complete and absolute bullshit on your part. Ironically it is you Americans who travel abroad in mass for mass for health care. Up to 6 mill. Americans are esitmated to seek health care by the end of this year.
@TimeWarp66 lol where did you read that private insurance was outlawed? Get your facts straight we have private systems in Canada too, you must've been brainwashed at an early age, do you believe that we all live in igloos too? lol
@TimeWarp66 Resources? so this is why the US ranks near last in number of doctors in the OECD? is this why health care in the US has to be rationed is because of the sheer abundance of resources? don't tell me it is not rationed - I suggest you read your supremes courts Pegram v. Herdrich, 120 S. Ct. 2143 before trying to tell me it isn't
Who says I'm defending the US health system? I want a free market healthcare system not a corportist one. However, our mixed system still beats your socialism in terms of healthcare out comes and wait times. Healthcare in America is only rationed by price signals, not by nameless faceless bureaucrats!
Only rationed by prices - Really read that course file I posted below - That is BS as the exact point of a HMO is to ration care. As for indicating my care is rationed. If I get cancer and are only alloted 2 rations of Chemo therapy and I want another ration. Tell me who I have to go to here in Canada to get an extra ration of Chemotherapy? You say such a thing is in place in our system - so tell me the contact info for the local authority who allocates health care rations here,
@TimeWarp66 as for the rest..... Canada is not Socialist - really learn your "ism's". I will give you a chance to redeem yourself. Name one academic who notes Canada is either a Socialist or Communist Country. This academic can be from the far left or far right of the political spectrum....literally any academic regardless of bias.
So CT scanners NEVER break down in the states? And the guy who looked at him diagnosed him with diverticulitis...which is what he has. He's just a pissed off Republican who would look at any excuse to bash our system.
Sounds like next time he needs a doctor when hes in Canada. If he does not survive to get back to the USA for treatment so be it. no matter why he might need it.
What specifically went wrong with the doctor he saw? Or did he decide for himself it wasn't up to par because of his prejudice? I'd be interested to know exactly what happened. It sounds like he got frustrated, blew it out of proportion and had his wife drive him 100s of miles because he's a "US citizen goddammit!"
@DoinThupidThings because monsters like brock obviously intimidate the shit out of you in real life all you can do is log on the internet say is "this guy is fat" "this guy is full of steroids" like a little bitch
that's the best you can do
probably never been in a fight in your life, faggot
@baobaojames123 oh geez, listen to you calling me names over the internet. If you were standing before me I'd give you one shot in the forehead and you'd shit your pants and collapse in a heap of blubber and blood. You've been yapping at me like a jackal now for over a week. Hope you had a nice Easter and didn't stuff too much chocolate down your hole
I live in Canada, but I am very Americanized because most of my family is american and i have only lived in canada for 5 years, but brock is right US has the better healthcare. you get what you pay for guys and in the states is hella cash for a fixed ass lol and canada its a percentage for also good healtchare but US is supreme
Gee poor healthcare eh? maybe thats why is FREE. Next time you're in canada brock, and you snap your leg or almost lose your life, think about how much you wouldve had to pay if you were in the states.
@nathanomgnathan yes but athletes need the best doctors and surgeons. you can;t fuck around with your career and US leads the way in the high quality of treatment available
@baobaojames123 he was probly in some shitty hospital thats all, and im sure he understands that, and wouldnt go off making comments regarding all of canada because if he was in a big city hospital then he wouldve received better
Socialism already in the U.S.A ie: public schools,police departments.fire departments,military,libraries,museums, building of infrasructure. These are all socialist ventures. Would you trust these things in the private sector. Look what happened to the banking system when you took out government regulations. Competition is good but you have to regulate it or the Bernie Madoffs will take all our money. A little socialism mixed with free enterprise is a good thing.
If this isn't the best example of how people lie about Canadian health being good, I don't know what is. People come to the US for healthcare. Where do you fly the Government Presidents of the world, Cuba? LOL I think not, it's the good ole US.
@papavalium People come to US from all over to get life saving operations.. they raise money so they can come here becuase they can't get the procedure elsewhere.
if any of you dipshits think the govt is so great then get a govt. job and or join the military. Govt. jobs suck a big cock. The only good thing about them is they have lifetime retirements. But things like govt. work and Unions allow idiots to get and keep their jobs and the way the budgets are handled would put a private company or corporation into failure. How can a govt. organization be good when it encourages spending and penalizes savings? Idiots
The only problem with Brocks statement is, if somebody has little or no money, the U.S would let them die....and Canada would at least do what they are capable of doing to try and save that person.
I know money cant buy happiness but
money can buy you health right ?
i believe the saying goes "at least you have your health"
What country are you from PG? Because you are either ignorant or a fucking liar; pick your choice. In the U.S. they have medicare and medicaid for the people who are lazy as fuck or really needs it. Not to mention many states like my state have free medical and medical that is cheap as hell for the poor. So lets not go around making bullshit statements when it is illegal to let people die here because of lack of medical.
I would also like to add something I forgot. GDP GNP are terrible measures of physical productivy given it is a monetary measure. Furthermore as the formula is private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports) - this formula treats aquired national and personal debt as a postive variable. If I aquire 100K in additional debt - does that make me a more productive person? of course not and this why economists are skeptical of productivity as a measure of sucess
The big difference between me and you is that I cite straight from the source itself and you cite third party opinion pieces from people who use inductive reasoning and regression. If you have ever taken a university stats class, you would know that these are not acceptable methods.
Furthermore some of these people like Robert L. Ohsfeldt and John E. Schneider are well known for academic dishonesty and quoting an OECD study which never existed
Hey apple we all know that university's harbor the best teachers in the world. I mean those guys who go to school for years, turn around join a teachers union, never having a real job KNOW everything there is to know. So much knowledge and experience found in a university LOL. Any tool can read books and puke it back up without stringing two thoughts together.
And hence why Americans do so terribly on standardized testing - shall I cite the fact that 1/2 of Americans have no clue as to where NYC and NY state is on a Map. - hey why go to school when you can live like a true American - grab a 6 pack, beat up a few gays, complain about those people who speak "foriegn", have 3 0r 4 triple whoppers, looking at your 300 pounds of body fat and then declaring how you as an American work hard
Furthermore see U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, 2007 Annual Social and Economic Supplement
and pull up statistics Canada by Michael Wolfson and Brian Murphy
Canadian middle class is not only larger per capita, we have less poverty. Furthermore our Middle and lower class have greaer disposable incomes, less likely to declare bankruptcy and less likely to fall into a lower income catergory
@sparwoodapple Then if your country and healthcare is half as great as you claim.Then why do people from canada get health care in the united states? why did brocklesnar ufc fighter didn't get proper health and had to leave the top canadian hospital in central canada? To go to a hospital in sotuhdakota?
@MrDivalover1 Only 1/2 and that is why World health organization rates our system as higher. As for the alleged hordes of Canadians going to the US for care. In 2008 at the absolute highest estimate, 5500 Canadians wen to the US for health care......or about .016% of our population....hardly hordes - I also selected the highest range
It's amazing how Canadians can think their country is better when hundreds of thousands of Canadians come to the US but the only Americans that go to Canada have been tories and draft-dodgers.
Canada is a pathetic country. You just imitate American culture, your entire economy depends on the US in every way. Yet you somehow thing you're superior, by creating all these hilariously false myths that I can disprove so easily. You didn't even respond about the War of 1812.
it's true canada has pretty shitty health care. i'm guessing he's coming from winnipeg, manitoba. Somebody died waiting 34 hours in the ER unattended. Look up brian sinclair winnipeg health. true story.
#1 If lesnar had not indulged in loads of steroids over the years he never would have needed this treatrment.
#2 To those who complain about Canada`s health care system being "socialist" . If you went through the public school system then you can consider yourself socialist as well!
No, its not. He said it himself he refused a CT scan and he was not misdiagnosed.But where he went in the US does have the best doctors in the world(no one can refute this) but we are not a 3rd world country. If he has such a problem with our social society, why does he have property here anyways?PROPAGANDA. Also where he went also has better doctors than in some states.
If by some chance President Obama reads this post, let me just say this. Sir, If you want to bring American Health Care cost down this is a VERY easy fix. Allow Private Insurance Providers to compete amongst themselves across state lines and you will watch the cost drop over night. The same way competition allowed every American access to affordable cell phone plans and high speed internet, competition will allow access to quality Health Care at a good price..
brock says he got the best care in the united states and will be back to the ufc soon hopefully. i wonder how much money he spent on that amazing health care.
Lesnar is such a pussy! if the health care was not up to par in that particular hospital he had the choice of finding one that catered to his whinning.
not in canada you don't. Its a socialist heath care format. You don't get to hot from hospital to hospital there. I would like you to tell him he is a pussy to his face and see what would happen.
I am Canadian... I can go to any Doctor or any Hospital I want. I can get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and even a 5th opinion BEFORE I DECIDE what my procedure will be. I, along with my Doctor decide what happens to me. In America it's a FOR-PROFIT Insurance company that decides if your too expensive for that procedure.
Health Care in America is traded like a commodity, your lives are worth as much as the price of coffee beans.
Its not about being rich man. Its about the same heath care for all and that is what he is talking about. Why do people always assume that rich people have nothing to complain about because they are rich.
Manitoba Health came out with this statement on Brocks Lesnars situation . " Due to the fact that Mr. Lesnar was fornicating and had a rather large Canadian pine stuck in his anus , we were left with the moral implications as well as the forestry laws reguarding Canadian lumber in US territory. End result we left the pine in his anus so he could pay for his treatment in the USA rather then leach off our syatem like countless other Americans.
ahaha Brock is fucking awesome im so glad there is somebody like him in the ufc i get so sick of the gsp's and coutoure's mr.nice guys all the time we need somebody like brock speaks his mind and backs his shit up
ufc better do some damage control after this shit...now progressive and canadian mma fans are turned off. you can tell that brock lesnar stands by what he saids but was starting to retract a little, possibly realizing the consequences of his words.
i watch mma, and i believe in progress over stagnation in a society, guess that makes me a flaming homo by your logic, huh...mma is a sport, not a political platform. o yea and if you are wondering, yes, i could stomp your nose so far into the back of your head that your skull would resemble a bowl of shit
Progressive= HOMO, yes. Last I checked, there werent many GOP members pushing for fags to be able to marry.
And yes, MMA is a sport, not a politcal platform, but youre the douche who said Lesnar would have to apologize to the "progressive" mma fans he insulted...
Which is a myth, because there arent many liberal mma fans to begin with.
Gop members love being homos how many have been caught in the last few years and usually the more they are against gays the more they love fucking them and since Canada is so socialist to you Americans you would say we are more liberal than Democrats in the states yet Canada has the most amount of fans at one ufc event in Montreal Canada Myth is Brock and his bs he has a right to say what ever he wants but he contradicts himself on every level as his American doctor didnt correctly diagnose
Brock never had any surgery so whatever he is saying is bs no surgery no real problem its all UFC HYPE next he is going to say he went to some church and they sent the disease out of him. But sorry but we do not have a 3 world health care system it may not be perfect and it does very depending where you live but even in the USA it varys im sure ppl in the hood dont get first class care where as ppl in beverly hills get it remember it does depends where u are
ah dont worry about it you irreverent bag of used douche. Because if universal health care passes, we'll all be getting the SAME care, and if we're lucky it'll be better than what the folks in the hood get. Untill then please stay up in canada, play fucking hockey, and continue to do nothing for the world as you have been. Also it wouldnt hurt you to use some capital letters or include end punctuation in your comments. Oh, wait, i guess thats the great Canada education system at work. Pussy.
Nothing for the world?Really helping Haiti not invading countries with no proof of wmds.Keep watching fixed news bc you don't know shit about anything.
Did you just mention educaton and punctuation when your sentence structure is about as poor as it gets? Are you kidding me? You're the type of moron that makes every other person around look like a complete moron. Way to go buddy. Perhaps you should look into a better education before you criticize others.
Google US Department of Education > search PISA and then PISA results. In each and every academic subject, Canadian students permormed better than the U.S. Students.
That's only for 15 year old students, and the reason the US scored lower is because of all the blacks and Mexicans in the public school system. You can call that racist but the PISA scores even showed that white Americans and Asian Americans had the highest scores in the world.
Canada only scores higher because it has no black people. A white Canadian still scores lower than a white American on every single PISA test.
I know Asian students perform better than white students. It's funny how you want admit Asians do better than whties, but you don't want to admit that blacks perform more poorly than both Asians and whites.
Canada has barely any black people. If you deny that you're either a liar or a moron. Canada only scores higher because of having a far, far lower rate of minorities than the US. Yet for each specific race, Americans perform better.
Canada has almost no black people - Really? Canada has the most racially and culturally diverse cities in the world which have been recognized by many including the OECD, UN and ohers - our cities have the best educated people, The provinces with the highest levels of caucations have the lowest level of education. As noted by Statistics Canada - Education Social factor province (google search) for the available years
You are a fucking idiot. You're a brainwashed zombie Canadian with no logic whatsoever.
--Minority population---
United States: 34%
Canada: 16%
The US has over twice as many minorities in relation to population size that Canada does. How you manage to think you're more diverse is hilarious when everyone knows the US, not Canada, is the most diverse nation on earth.
And it's true that you barely have any black people. Blacks make up only 2.5% of Canada, they make up 15% of the US.
You are picking the sociological most advantagis population in the US and comparing to a Canadian average.
Your are right in that US very high rates of childhood poverty and the hordes or poor people in your nation do have an impact on the results. This is not something to proud of. You guys have a low standard of living in relation to other major nations - I can see why now
No, I'm putting your ignorant, retarded comments in context by showing that demographics and race play into the scores on the PISA tests, it's not just about education quality.
Canada only scored higher on the PISA tests because it has less minorities. Every single specific race in the US still outperformed that same race in Canada. White Americans are smarter and more educated than white Canadians. Black Americans are smarter and more educated than black Canadians etc...
Actually if you did your research properly you would know I am originally from China, the same nation that has financed the US for the last 10 years. You are citing third party interpertations of the Data - furthermore they are applying reggresional data gathering on a non regression data model. I will provide tommorow a very detailed point by point rebutal that is not a third party interpertaion of the results
Lol what you want me "research" you to find out that you're from China? Funny that you say China finances the US, yet you ignore that all the technology China has comes form the US. China's economy is more dependent on the US than the US is on China. China only is a source of cheap labor to mass produce goods. Most of the factories in China were built by American companies. Most of the products China builds were designed in the US and the west, China simply makes them under contract.
Sorry you seem to imply that I was white. More dependant and yet amazingly it is interesting how despite the US being in major recession that China still grew at a moderate economic rate
Oh as for the US being the most genourous nation - LIE. Go to Congress report services > FAS > Foriegn aid and donations > see page 22 I did go directly to your source who linked me back to the OECD for a source of its data. Sorry you fail 1. Sweden - 1.02% 2. Norway - 0.89% 3. Luxembourg - 0.84% 4. Netherlands - 0.81% 5. Denmark - 0.8% 6. Ireland - 0.54% 7. United Kingdom - 0.51% 8. Belgium - 0.5% 9. Austria - 0.47% 16. Canada - 0.29% 23. United States - 0.18%
FAIL. That is only government what governments pledge. That is not how generous a nation is you moron. The International Comparisons of Charitable Giving show that Americans are twice as generous as the next most generous nation, and are way more generous than Canadians.
--Countries ranked by giving as % of GDP--
United States: 1.67%
United Kingdom: .73%
Canada: .72%
Americans are more generous than Canadians, and Americans give out of their own pocket. Canadians brag about government aid.
It's funny because if you looked at GNI instead of GDP, the US would actually outperform countries even more, considering how much American companies have moved production to other countries yet are still owned by Americans.
GNI nor GDP is a measure of hard work - it is a measure of value of labour. It has zero to do with how hard someone worlked. Do you think the person who takes 1/2 day to build a 100K rolex watch puts in more labour then someone who puts 40K into home renovations that he did himself
It's amazing how desperate you are to avoid acknowledging things that compromise your lie-based Canadian pride.
Americans are the most productive workers in the world. That's a fact. Nobody said anything about how much they exert per dollar earned, it's about the value of their labor as you yourself said. Americans are more valuable, productive workers than people from any other country including Canada.
Americans produce more wealth because of innovation and technology, not manual labor.
GNI and GDP are a measure are value of productivity and not actuall physical work put in. More valuable, but the wealth is concentrated so high up the ladder. Americas middle class is one of the smallest and it's poverty class is amongst the largest. Canadian middle class are actually more wealthier, more liklely to own their home, and less likely to declare bankruptcy despite the fact it is easier for Canadians to do so
Life expectancy at birth, by sex, by province Statistics Canada. Metropolitan Centres with the most racially diverse populations have the longest life spans. Populations with the highest levels of Caucasions have amongst the lowest. Datatables are all there for you to see
As for quality of life, you are cherry picking. I could do the same and cite some far left think tank, but I will make this interesting and use actually a right wing think tank.
See freedom house. Not only do I as a Canadian enjoy higher quality of life, this right wing think tank goes on to state that I as a Canadian are more free than you as an American
the 9000-20000 is for medical errors which the US actuall leads the world in per Capita as noted in the OECD country profile 2008 as well health indicators OECD 2008
As for surviveability that is why the World Healh organization Infobase systems notes Canadians overall are more likely to survive a Non communciable diseaase than an american? the most comprehensive disease group
As for your source regarding productivity - You failed to read your whole source. Nor you understand that Productivity stats is no way shape or form a measure of physical labour or amount of effort. Prodcutivity calculated by this formula
private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports) this number is then divided by population. As you can see by this formula, it is a measure of monetary value of production and not of the effort involved
American workers are the most productive in the world. The way they determine it is to divide the GDP of a country by the workforce. The economic output of Americans, per person, is the highest in the world.
You fail. It's amazing how I completely annihilated your arguments in the message I sent you with links, and you just ignore it. Typical Canadian, your only way of having pride is to believe lies and ignore reality.
It's also funny that you Canadians think youre healthcare is better, even though your politicians come here when their life is on the line. The US medical system is superior to Canada in every single performance measurement. Responsiveness, survival rates from treatable diseases etc..'
But you Canadians think that having slightly higher life expectancy (which is due to lower minority rates, again) means your healthcare is better. Even though white Americans outlive Canadians by 3 years.
It is far far more superior - WHO rankins say say so. Go to WHO info database - Search logevity search demographics - Actually Canadians out live American whites FAIL
There is only ONE SINGLE thing in the WHO that actually gauges relative performance of healthcare; that's called "Responsiveness". The US scores #1 that.
Life expectancy and infant mortality are affected by many things that have nothing to do with healthcare, including race. The tens of millions of illegal immigrants in the US are included, lowering national statistics.
When you factor out unnatural deaths (like car accidents for example) and look at each race, Americans outlive Canadians.
are you referring to the study done by the economists Robert L. Ohsfeldt and John E. Schneider ? This has been debunked and they refuted their own study in the WSJ November 12, 2007, 4:08 PM ET.Does the U.S. Lead in Life Expectancy? Furthermore the OECD in the country profile of the USA in 2008 actually slammed them for printing incorrect OECD data which did not exist. OECD noted that even after you factor out high US murder accident rate, we still outlive you guys
As for health care tourism, 5500 Canadians went ot the US for health care at the absolute highest in 2008. 6 million americans are expected to go overseas for health care in 2010 (Deloitte)
You compare how many Canadians come to the US with how many Americans go ALL AROUND THE WORLD for healthcare.
You ignore that most American medical tourism is to save money, and it's usually plastic surgery not life-saving operations. Canadians come to the US when their life is on the line.
The US is better at saving lives. The US has higher cancer survival rates, heart disease survival rates... everything. Every single treatable disease.
.016% of the Canadian population received health care in the US - Where are the hordes? I selected the absolute highest number I could find and this number includes cosmetic procedures. Really every disease? cite your sources
Search WHO Infobase search Non-communicable diseases and cross compare on the table features between Canada and the US. Canadians are more likely to survive non communicable disease
More from your Census bureau.... the number of people living below the official poverty line grew by 1.3 million in 2003......
DeNavas-Walt, Carmen, Bernadette D. Proctor, and Robert J. Mills, U.S. Census Bureau, "Current Population Reports, P60-226, Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2003," U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, DC 26 Aug 2004.
As for quality of Care - not only do Americans have a higher incident of medical error related deaths, it is so common that is the 2nd - 3rd leadiing cause of death in the US
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (National Center for Health Statistics), Deaths: National Vital Statistics Reports: Deaths: Leading Causes
and.....Medical Errors - A Leading Cause of Death
The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA)
Furhermore see Income, Poverty - U.S. Department of Commerce
Economics and Statistics Administration
U.S. CENSUS BUREAU
Notes on page 2 that all races have seen negative Change in real median
income. Furthermore
"despite the resumption of job growth in September and 4.4% growth in the economy as measured by Gross Domestic Product. The middle-income group lost 0.4 percentage points "
The Us is the only "major nation" to border a 3rd world country. Not a single other "major nation" has as many minorities as the US, yet minorities in every single other "major nation" are impoverished and perform poorly compared to the majority in each of those countries.
Despite the statistical disadvantage the US has from having lots of minorities. The US is still the mostly highly educated country in the OECD, with the best universities. The PISA scores only gauge 15 year olds.
I followed your advice and searched OECD and they do not agree with what you say and came accross this study 1 - Canada - 44.0 2 - United States - 38.4 3 - Japan - 37.4 4 - Sweden - 33.4 5 - Finland - 33.3 6 - Denmark - 31.9 7 - Australia - 31.3 8 - Norway - 31.0 9 - New Zealand - 30.9 Percentage of Population aged that have attained a tertiary level of education (OECD Countries
You ignore the link I sent in the private message.
Canada includes vocational training as tertiary education, the US does not. When you only include university level education the US has higher attainment of higher education.
The link is to a right wing think tank - I prefer to cite the source directly as noted by the OECD 2007 Percentage of Population that have attained a tertiary level of education 1 - Canada - 44.0 2 - United States - 38.4 3 - Japan - 37.4 4 - Sweden - 33.4 5 - Finland - 33.3 6 - Denmark - 31.9 7 - Australia - 31.3 8 - Norway - 31.0 9 - New Zealand - 30.9 10 - South Korea - 29.5
If he can get rid of his WWF bs, and become a good well spoken pro who can act like a respectable fighter I will be a fan.
I personally think the guy is Green in MMA, but he is for sure on his way to being one of the best. And as a NCAA D1 Wrestling Champ the guy has a great back ground.
I think Brock Lesnar could beat Fedor, or any man alive in that case. Sure Fedor could get the KO standing, but if it hit the mat Brock would destroy him.
This is hardly a case of socialized health care are these UFC fans seriously going to take this meatheads advice on the future of their health care system because this chooch couldn't get ample care deep in the CDN wilderness. This meathead shouldn't even be in CDN shooting at our animals let alone criticizing them for not giving proper care on a mis-diagnosis from a US doctor.
The healtcare bill is not about the quality of care its about the affordability to pay for that care We all know that the US has the best healtcare service in the world but with no access 2 affordable insurance high premiums and folks being drop for pre existing conditions it is very difficult 4 many americans to afford 2 pay for that care without losing their home and life savings to pay for their medical bills. Mr. Lesnar should educate himself before comenting & repeating rep. talking points
Brock Lesnar says he's an "independent contractor" what bullshit...if he's an "independent contractor" why does he exclusively fight for the UFC and not other organizations or other Top Ranked HW's...
Brock Lesnar, enjoy your Million Dollar lifestyle in the boonies paid for by other independent contractors who exclusively suffer under America's health system...
MaladaptiveCatalyst: You're a dope. He signed a contract to fight in the UFC. It's an exclusive contract, but he is not an employee, but rather an independent 'operator' who has signed a contract. The terms of his contract are in terms of him as an individual providing services to the UFC.
Look forward to seeing your poorly-grown half-beard blocking an ambulance at the next WTO protest. Let's be sure to get patchouli covered in the health care bill, too.
wow a terminology argument.youre so smart &wise its incredible.also please continue to teach the world how to be so remarkably presumptious of strangers online
was that "Sincerely, Idiot?"or were u calling me an idiot? be more specific next time because the patchouli scent has clogged my head &im not thinking straight. I guess i cant go hunting small game with my friends in Feburary or vote for my socially-conservative Republican Governor anymore or drink a Coors Light. what a shame
Canada is a third world country. Canada belongs to Americans, canadians are our slaves.
tmaz85 3 months ago
@tmaz85 lol were a third world country look who owes trillions of dollars in debt and look who the world hates more lol were not your slaves
Proudcanadian0 1 month ago
Hey Brock.. DId you know that Canada is ranked above the US in Health Care? By 7 places..
andystruth 6 months ago
Why was he in the hospital???
ty1977 9 months ago
@ty1977 cuz he's a pussy
CD131986 7 months ago
America had so many good doctors because that's were they will make tons of money. This is honestly like me saying i don't like American food cause i bought one thing from the grocerry store so all of it must be bad. also just thought of it what an idiot he's at a bad hospital so don't go to the one in the next city go to a hole other country. Also he says that insurance is expensive and they rely on it a lot and that it needs to be changed, but then he says just a little change.
KDude44444 1 year ago
Of course he would argue don't change anything, he has money, he could get special treatment possibly. Problem is how many husbands and wives how have had their partners catch things like cancer, had to sell their homes, and everything they own to get treatment. Great thing you stand for Brock, telling world you care about nothing but yourself, get a few more punches in the head.
syleishere 1 year ago 3
In canada everyones treated the same. Brock must be use to the wine and crackers served to him in bed . And for Brock opposing health care reform is just selfish what about alll the working class americans?
Fuck u superstare Brock
ricenchikn 1 year ago 3
@ricenchikn He went to an average hospital in north dakota idiot. It's not like he was flown into the best hospital right off the bat. You just don't like hearing that one of our worst hospitals is better than one of your best.
Face it socialized medicine sucks.
prooc 1 year ago
Shit how am I going to be a Brock fan and a Fedor fan? I wasn't a Brock fan until I heard this video.....
jeremy8080 1 year ago
Lesnar says: "If I had been in Thailand or Puerto Rico, I would want to get back in the U.S. for my health care, you know?" apparently he doesn't understand that puerto rico is PART OF the usa. the retard is a fail and so is the fundy anti-science anti-healthcare movement in general. next!
MrA5gregjockca 1 year ago
@MrA5gregjockca lol he's a fuckng idiot. Hell who wouldn't enjoy the American health care system if they had millions of dollars. Which is what he dosen't understand
KDude44444 1 year ago
@KDude44444 it's the inbreeding down there. lol. they all toot jugs.
a13gregjockca 1 year ago
The reason insurance is so expensive here in the US is because the companies have a monopoly in each state like BluecrossBlueshield of Florida and Alabama and New York. If companies were allowed to compete nationally like auto insurance that would bring the price down significantly. The free market wil always improve things as long as it is allowed to flurish on its own without gov. intervention.
michaelencarnacion 1 year ago
KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY MEDICARE!
Oh... Oh wait...
MattAlbie 1 year ago
The best Hospital in Canada is better than the average hospital in the US and vice versa.
Brock is just being cocky. The Mayo Clinic vs. A rural Manitoba hospital. Its not Canada's fault, its the hospital's fault.
badasswarren 1 year ago
Canada IS a Socialist Country, far more so then the US but that is quickly changing due to their immense political corruption. Many, in fact most, hospitals in Canada are treading water while others are bankrupt and laying off most of their non-unionized employees. If Canada was that good why then do most of those who can get care in the States as well the States bring more medical advances to market then any other nation on Earth... Drop the Micheal Moron books and start seeking the facts...
DrAvrington 1 year ago
@DrAvrington whatev. just fix your unemployment, american hicks. LOL. most of you assholes have never set foot in canada. ignorant know-nothing yappy asses as usual. that's why the world hates america more and more every year. keep it up. the nuke is coming, pricks. ROFL!
MrA5gregjockca 1 year ago
@MrA5gregjockca Yeah but at least they no we exist, other than your insignificant asses, who no one can give a shit about.
prooc 1 year ago
@prooc who knows you exist? lol! smoking crack again, whitney? shut up.
a9gregjockca 1 year ago
The basic crux here is the American system is based on Capitalism where efficiency and productivity are valued to allow for a well functioning organization where a profit must be achieved whereas under Canada's Socialist system the same organizational qualities are not valued. This is the basic and fundamental difference between Capitalism vs. Socialism. Socialism is always less productive and a failure. Winston Churchill, Barry Goldwater like Enoch Powell were write "equal spreading of misery"
DrAvrington 1 year ago
@DrAvrington Canada is not a Socialist country. As for health systems, its ironic how the most marketized health system in the World is also the most expensive. Also odd how the US system has a far below average number of medical professionals per 1000 in relation to other OECD nations
MrSparwoodapple 1 year ago
@MrSparwoodapple "the most marketized health system in the World"
HAHAHAHAHHA
Are you kidding me!?!?! Do you have the slightest idea about how big a role the government plays in American healthcare distorting the free market? That's why prices are high.
The closest thing to free market healthcare would be Singapore's model. Look it up and learn!
TimeWarp66 1 year ago
@TimeWarp66 Really I suppose perhaps a place like Somalia may have more. Really Signapore which guarantees universal coverage to all people. Including government price controls. Among other controls and subsidizations from the government. I do very much like environmental regulations placed on corporations in regards to the environment.
MrSparwoodapple 1 year ago
Yes, Canada is so great that our best Dr.s go to the States and are replaced by those less qualified from the turd world thanks to our ineptness towards "multiculturalism", "embracing diversity" and other purely socialist schema. Why does anyone think that Danny Williams, along with an extensive list of other influential Canadians, flee to the States? Our Socialized healthcare system is bankrupt and many of our hospitals are bankrupt and laying off all those non-unionized employees.
DrAvrington 1 year ago
@DrAvrington They get payed more money in the states thats why they go there. The hospitals in the states get more money because its rich people that go there.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian
That's a very ignorant understanding of our system.
TimeWarp66 1 year ago
@DrAvrington Actually since 2003 more Dr's move from the US to Canada then vice versa. In fact Canada has more GP's per capita then the US. As for Danny - Actually some well respected Cardiologist noted that his procedure has no waiting times. Furthermore if he lived in Ontario, he would have the option of having his Valve procedure done by the very people who invented it. As for bankrupt - direct me to your sources that are stating our hospitals are declaring "bankruptcy"
MrSparwoodapple 1 year ago
Brock's rich, healthcare in US is for rich people. Makes sense why he'd pick US over Canada for medical treatment. The people with the most money get the best healthcare.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian
American healthcare is nor for Rich people, it's for any person who wants good healthcare and doesn't want to wait in lousy socialist lines, where it takes months to get treated and resources are scarce.
TimeWarp66 1 year ago
@TimeWarp66 Ressources might be scarced for rare diseases and viruses. Waiting lines take about half an hour if its not urgent.
American healthcare is once again for people who have the money, if you don't have it, they shove you out the door.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@TimeWarp66 Healthcare is for rich people. Thats why rich people in Canada that want high-end quality treatment go to the states and pay those extra few tens of thousands of dollars to cut in front of the line of people who have less money.
It doesn't take months to get treated in Canada, you go to the hospital, he checks you, and prespcribes you medicine from the pharmacy. If you need surgery then it takes about a month. If its urgent and you are about to die you get surgery immediatly.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian
Because you CAN'T get high end quality care in Canada, so you come to the states. Canada has outlawed private insurance so people can't compare the 2 systems and realize the private sector does it WAY better.
TimeWarp66 1 year ago
@TimeWarp66 This is why in light have similiar incidences of major diseases, Canadians live longer. Is this why only up to 5000 Canadians went to the US for health care in 2008.? You make it seem like Canadians jam US/Can. border in a desperate attempt to seek private care. Complete and absolute bullshit on your part. Ironically it is you Americans who travel abroad in mass for mass for health care. Up to 6 mill. Americans are esitmated to seek health care by the end of this year.
MrSparwoodapple 1 year ago
@TimeWarp66 lol where did you read that private insurance was outlawed? Get your facts straight we have private systems in Canada too, you must've been brainwashed at an early age, do you believe that we all live in igloos too? lol
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@TimeWarp66 Resources? so this is why the US ranks near last in number of doctors in the OECD? is this why health care in the US has to be rationed is because of the sheer abundance of resources? don't tell me it is not rationed - I suggest you read your supremes courts Pegram v. Herdrich, 120 S. Ct. 2143 before trying to tell me it isn't
MrSparwoodapple 1 year ago
@MrSparwoodapple
Who says I'm defending the US health system? I want a free market healthcare system not a corportist one. However, our mixed system still beats your socialism in terms of healthcare out comes and wait times. Healthcare in America is only rationed by price signals, not by nameless faceless bureaucrats!
TimeWarp66 1 year ago
Only rationed by prices - Really read that course file I posted below - That is BS as the exact point of a HMO is to ration care. As for indicating my care is rationed. If I get cancer and are only alloted 2 rations of Chemo therapy and I want another ration. Tell me who I have to go to here in Canada to get an extra ration of Chemotherapy? You say such a thing is in place in our system - so tell me the contact info for the local authority who allocates health care rations here,
MrSparwoodapple 1 year ago
@TimeWarp66 as for the rest..... Canada is not Socialist - really learn your "ism's". I will give you a chance to redeem yourself. Name one academic who notes Canada is either a Socialist or Communist Country. This academic can be from the far left or far right of the political spectrum....literally any academic regardless of bias.
MrSparwoodapple 1 year ago
i love how he trashes canadas health care, preaches about the best hospital in the US, but was mis-diagnosed at the first place he went to in the US.
The WHO's world's health systems ranking from . Canada ranked 30 in the world for health care. America ranked 37.
sorry in canada, you cant flash your money and be helped first. We treat everyone as equals, not like the us, where money makes you more important
briantheman890 1 year ago
So CT scanners NEVER break down in the states? And the guy who looked at him diagnosed him with diverticulitis...which is what he has. He's just a pissed off Republican who would look at any excuse to bash our system.
Ian7570 1 year ago
i dont really think he can blame an intire country's health care b/c of one place
alameano 1 year ago
Sounds like next time he needs a doctor when hes in Canada. If he does not survive to get back to the USA for treatment so be it. no matter why he might need it.
Bafimar01 1 year ago
So basically Brock is crying because money can't buy him healthcare in Canada? What a prick.
miseryowns 1 year ago
the thing is. brock is right, but thats because he is rich.
thats the diffrence, if you got the money you can get he best health care form the US.
quezcatol 1 year ago
welcome to canada, you get what you pay for. And last i checked that cunt don't pay taxes here, fuck off brock
DirtyDeerock 1 year ago
What specifically went wrong with the doctor he saw? Or did he decide for himself it wasn't up to par because of his prejudice? I'd be interested to know exactly what happened. It sounds like he got frustrated, blew it out of proportion and had his wife drive him 100s of miles because he's a "US citizen goddammit!"
robert777m 1 year ago
Now this guy is so fat and full of steroids that no MRI could even see into his blubbery gut. And this is a SKINNY American.
DoinThupidThings 1 year ago
@DoinThupidThings because monsters like brock obviously intimidate the shit out of you in real life all you can do is log on the internet say is "this guy is fat" "this guy is full of steroids" like a little bitch
that's the best you can do
probably never been in a fight in your life, faggot
baobaojames123 1 year ago
@baobaojames123 oh geez, listen to you calling me names over the internet. If you were standing before me I'd give you one shot in the forehead and you'd shit your pants and collapse in a heap of blubber and blood. You've been yapping at me like a jackal now for over a week. Hope you had a nice Easter and didn't stuff too much chocolate down your hole
DoinThupidThings 1 year ago
@DoinThupidThings UMMMM what's your obssesion with fat people?
baobaojames123 1 year ago
I live in Canada, but I am very Americanized because most of my family is american and i have only lived in canada for 5 years, but brock is right US has the better healthcare. you get what you pay for guys and in the states is hella cash for a fixed ass lol and canada its a percentage for also good healtchare but US is supreme
Rhinored 1 year ago
@Rhinored you are right!
baobaojames123 1 year ago
Brock Lesnar's ultimate treatment that he got in the US was pioneered in Canada. My mother got it as well - in Toronto.
XFuncCaRteR 1 year ago
Gee poor healthcare eh? maybe thats why is FREE. Next time you're in canada brock, and you snap your leg or almost lose your life, think about how much you wouldve had to pay if you were in the states.
nathanomgnathan 1 year ago
@nathanomgnathan yes but athletes need the best doctors and surgeons. you can;t fuck around with your career and US leads the way in the high quality of treatment available
baobaojames123 1 year ago
@baobaojames123 he was probly in some shitty hospital thats all, and im sure he understands that, and wouldnt go off making comments regarding all of canada because if he was in a big city hospital then he wouldve received better
nathanomgnathan 1 year ago
Socialism already in the U.S.A ie: public schools,police departments.fire departments,military,libraries,museums, building of infrasructure. These are all socialist ventures. Would you trust these things in the private sector. Look what happened to the banking system when you took out government regulations. Competition is good but you have to regulate it or the Bernie Madoffs will take all our money. A little socialism mixed with free enterprise is a good thing.
tigeroak 1 year ago
I bet the X-Ray machines don't even work there...or they have 1 for the entire hospital.
papavalium 1 year ago
If this isn't the best example of how people lie about Canadian health being good, I don't know what is. People come to the US for healthcare. Where do you fly the Government Presidents of the world, Cuba? LOL I think not, it's the good ole US.
papavalium 1 year ago
@papavalium People come to US from all over to get life saving operations.. they raise money so they can come here becuase they can't get the procedure elsewhere.
baobaojames123 1 year ago 2
@baobaojames123 Dont forget about the doctors from all over the world that come hear to practice medicine and get educated
ragincaucasian319 1 year ago
@ragincaucasian319 yes, that's another good point!
baobaojames123 1 year ago
if any of you dipshits think the govt is so great then get a govt. job and or join the military. Govt. jobs suck a big cock. The only good thing about them is they have lifetime retirements. But things like govt. work and Unions allow idiots to get and keep their jobs and the way the budgets are handled would put a private company or corporation into failure. How can a govt. organization be good when it encourages spending and penalizes savings? Idiots
Warpath2198 1 year ago
The only problem with Brocks statement is, if somebody has little or no money, the U.S would let them die....and Canada would at least do what they are capable of doing to try and save that person.
I know money cant buy happiness but
money can buy you health right ?
i believe the saying goes "at least you have your health"
pgtv69 1 year ago
@pgtv
What country are you from PG? Because you are either ignorant or a fucking liar; pick your choice. In the U.S. they have medicare and medicaid for the people who are lazy as fuck or really needs it. Not to mention many states like my state have free medical and medical that is cheap as hell for the poor. So lets not go around making bullshit statements when it is illegal to let people die here because of lack of medical.
Warpath2198 1 year ago
@Warpath
If what you say is true then why is Obama and the democrats pushing for health care in the U.S? because BROKE PEOPLE DONT RECIEVE PROPER CARE.
pgtv69 1 year ago
Socialist hate to hear the truth.
hawkermustang 1 year ago
I would also like to add something I forgot. GDP GNP are terrible measures of physical productivy given it is a monetary measure. Furthermore as the formula is private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports) - this formula treats aquired national and personal debt as a postive variable. If I aquire 100K in additional debt - does that make me a more productive person? of course not and this why economists are skeptical of productivity as a measure of sucess
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
The big difference between me and you is that I cite straight from the source itself and you cite third party opinion pieces from people who use inductive reasoning and regression. If you have ever taken a university stats class, you would know that these are not acceptable methods.
Furthermore some of these people like Robert L. Ohsfeldt and John E. Schneider are well known for academic dishonesty and quoting an OECD study which never existed
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
Hey apple we all know that university's harbor the best teachers in the world. I mean those guys who go to school for years, turn around join a teachers union, never having a real job KNOW everything there is to know. So much knowledge and experience found in a university LOL. Any tool can read books and puke it back up without stringing two thoughts together.
Warpath2198 1 year ago
And hence why Americans do so terribly on standardized testing - shall I cite the fact that 1/2 of Americans have no clue as to where NYC and NY state is on a Map. - hey why go to school when you can live like a true American - grab a 6 pack, beat up a few gays, complain about those people who speak "foriegn", have 3 0r 4 triple whoppers, looking at your 300 pounds of body fat and then declaring how you as an American work hard
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
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MrDivalover1 1 year ago
Furthermore see U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, 2007 Annual Social and Economic Supplement
and pull up statistics Canada by Michael Wolfson and Brian Murphy
Canadian middle class is not only larger per capita, we have less poverty. Furthermore our Middle and lower class have greaer disposable incomes, less likely to declare bankruptcy and less likely to fall into a lower income catergory
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
@sparwoodapple Then if your country and healthcare is half as great as you claim.Then why do people from canada get health care in the united states? why did brocklesnar ufc fighter didn't get proper health and had to leave the top canadian hospital in central canada? To go to a hospital in sotuhdakota?
MrDivalover1 1 year ago
@MrDivalover1 Only 1/2 and that is why World health organization rates our system as higher. As for the alleged hordes of Canadians going to the US for care. In 2008 at the absolute highest estimate, 5500 Canadians wen to the US for health care......or about .016% of our population....hardly hordes - I also selected the highest range
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
@SparwoodApple Canada SUCKS
baobaojames123 1 year ago
As for the quoted 9000 - 20000 Canadian medical error deaths as you note
"U.S. Leads in Medical Errors"
See OECD observer report "Medical malpractice: What remedy?
Claims for clinical mistakes have been rising in both number and amounts of compensation sought over recent years."
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
It's amazing how Canadians can think their country is better when hundreds of thousands of Canadians come to the US but the only Americans that go to Canada have been tories and draft-dodgers.
Canada is a pathetic country. You just imitate American culture, your entire economy depends on the US in every way. Yet you somehow thing you're superior, by creating all these hilariously false myths that I can disprove so easily. You didn't even respond about the War of 1812.
Canadian coward.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
Loser Cock Lesnar.....should have had the CT scan....that's where Diverticulitis shows up dumb fuck. I know, because I have it.
metallifuk1970 1 year ago
it's true canada has pretty shitty health care. i'm guessing he's coming from winnipeg, manitoba. Somebody died waiting 34 hours in the ER unattended. Look up brian sinclair winnipeg health. true story.
mushroomhead15 1 year ago
#1 If lesnar had not indulged in loads of steroids over the years he never would have needed this treatrment.
#2 To those who complain about Canada`s health care system being "socialist" . If you went through the public school system then you can consider yourself socialist as well!
victoria59 2 years ago 2
Sounds like envy to me. Canada's healthcare is only good for the dying.
yuxj 2 years ago
No, its not. He said it himself he refused a CT scan and he was not misdiagnosed.But where he went in the US does have the best doctors in the world(no one can refute this) but we are not a 3rd world country. If he has such a problem with our social society, why does he have property here anyways?PROPAGANDA. Also where he went also has better doctors than in some states.
hylo1111 1 year ago
@yuxj, you obviously don't respect data.
plimbuff 1 year ago
If by some chance President Obama reads this post, let me just say this. Sir, If you want to bring American Health Care cost down this is a VERY easy fix. Allow Private Insurance Providers to compete amongst themselves across state lines and you will watch the cost drop over night. The same way competition allowed every American access to affordable cell phone plans and high speed internet, competition will allow access to quality Health Care at a good price..
RocketRitch88 2 years ago
" Not to make a political point "
Then he makes a political point
TheD2JBug 2 years ago 2
wow! there is another video on this shit! jeeezzzz!!!!! just stfu already! oh by the way he was in manitoba, where i live in canada! ugh..
xoxtoulaxox22 2 years ago
@xoxtoulaxox22 Do your hospitals suck?
prooc 2 years ago
noooo they don't!
xoxtoulaxox22 2 years ago
@xoxtoulaxox22 How's it feel to have shitty healthcare?
prooc 2 years ago
did he call him Dana at 7:25?
brock says he got the best care in the united states and will be back to the ufc soon hopefully. i wonder how much money he spent on that amazing health care.
noblegas34 2 years ago
Of course Brock prefers America's health care system to Canada's, he's rich. Most Americans aren't, though.
whbon73 2 years ago
Lesnar is such a pussy! if the health care was not up to par in that particular hospital he had the choice of finding one that catered to his whinning.
notorious00big 2 years ago 4
not in canada you don't. Its a socialist heath care format. You don't get to hot from hospital to hospital there. I would like you to tell him he is a pussy to his face and see what would happen.
jmorenz 2 years ago
@jmorenz
I am Canadian... I can go to any Doctor or any Hospital I want. I can get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and even a 5th opinion BEFORE I DECIDE what my procedure will be. I, along with my Doctor decide what happens to me. In America it's a FOR-PROFIT Insurance company that decides if your too expensive for that procedure.
Health Care in America is traded like a commodity, your lives are worth as much as the price of coffee beans.
Bundashit 2 years ago 3
jeez, get the rich guy being against health care reform.
He can buy any care he wants whether the reforms take place or not.
idiot
AdamM667 2 years ago
Its not about being rich man. Its about the same heath care for all and that is what he is talking about. Why do people always assume that rich people have nothing to complain about because they are rich.
jmorenz 2 years ago
it's not the same health care for all. It's a guaranteed minimum decent standard of health care for all.
Rich people can continue to pay extra for executive care.
AdamM667 2 years ago
Keep politics out of MMA. Fuck.
JREYNOSO 2 years ago
Maybe this should give the Manitoba government a little kick in the ass to pay for for good doctors and spend more on top quality health facilities.
One way to pay is in paying for a stupid reason to support natives and make everone get a job and not give out money to loser that will not work .
yonni3998 2 years ago
Manitoba Health came out with this statement on Brocks Lesnars situation . " Due to the fact that Mr. Lesnar was fornicating and had a rather large Canadian pine stuck in his anus , we were left with the moral implications as well as the forestry laws reguarding Canadian lumber in US territory. End result we left the pine in his anus so he could pay for his treatment in the USA rather then leach off our syatem like countless other Americans.
GWARCUM 2 years ago 2
ahaha Brock is fucking awesome im so glad there is somebody like him in the ufc i get so sick of the gsp's and coutoure's mr.nice guys all the time we need somebody like brock speaks his mind and backs his shit up
MrDripdrop 2 years ago
Didnt like Brock before, but I think I may have to change my opinion of him. Like his politics!
jabronis33 2 years ago
ufc better do some damage control after this shit...now progressive and canadian mma fans are turned off. you can tell that brock lesnar stands by what he saids but was starting to retract a little, possibly realizing the consequences of his words.
bgmstr 2 years ago
@bgmstr LOL "ufc better do some damage control after this shit...now progressive and canadian mma fans are turned off."
Progressive fags dont watch MMA to begin with..
And, oh yeah, Brock was really scared of anyones reaction to his comments..
As if anyone could say anything to his face !
bucs2921 2 years ago
@bucs2921
i watch mma, and i believe in progress over stagnation in a society, guess that makes me a flaming homo by your logic, huh...mma is a sport, not a political platform. o yea and if you are wondering, yes, i could stomp your nose so far into the back of your head that your skull would resemble a bowl of shit
peace be with you dickface
bgmstr 2 years ago
Progressive= HOMO, yes. Last I checked, there werent many GOP members pushing for fags to be able to marry.
And yes, MMA is a sport, not a politcal platform, but youre the douche who said Lesnar would have to apologize to the "progressive" mma fans he insulted...
Which is a myth, because there arent many liberal mma fans to begin with.
And no, you wouldnt be able to fight me...
I'd guarantee it.
Fag.
bucs2921 2 years ago
Gop members love being homos how many have been caught in the last few years and usually the more they are against gays the more they love fucking them and since Canada is so socialist to you Americans you would say we are more liberal than Democrats in the states yet Canada has the most amount of fans at one ufc event in Montreal Canada Myth is Brock and his bs he has a right to say what ever he wants but he contradicts himself on every level as his American doctor didnt correctly diagnose
bam6956 2 years ago
Brock never had any surgery so whatever he is saying is bs no surgery no real problem its all UFC HYPE next he is going to say he went to some church and they sent the disease out of him. But sorry but we do not have a 3 world health care system it may not be perfect and it does very depending where you live but even in the USA it varys im sure ppl in the hood dont get first class care where as ppl in beverly hills get it remember it does depends where u are
bam6956 2 years ago
ah dont worry about it you irreverent bag of used douche. Because if universal health care passes, we'll all be getting the SAME care, and if we're lucky it'll be better than what the folks in the hood get. Untill then please stay up in canada, play fucking hockey, and continue to do nothing for the world as you have been. Also it wouldnt hurt you to use some capital letters or include end punctuation in your comments. Oh, wait, i guess thats the great Canada education system at work. Pussy.
chuteboxevaletudo 2 years ago
Nothing for the world?Really helping Haiti not invading countries with no proof of wmds.Keep watching fixed news bc you don't know shit about anything.
bam6956 2 years ago
@chuteboxevaletudo
Doing nothing for the world? Canada just spent more per capita on Haiti Aid than America. Canada is fighting in Afghanistan to PROTECT America.
You're VERY selfish, ignorant and ungrateful.
Bundashit 2 years ago 2
Did you just mention educaton and punctuation when your sentence structure is about as poor as it gets? Are you kidding me? You're the type of moron that makes every other person around look like a complete moron. Way to go buddy. Perhaps you should look into a better education before you criticize others.
Rage00Against 2 years ago
Google US Department of Education > search PISA and then PISA results. In each and every academic subject, Canadian students permormed better than the U.S. Students.
SparwoodApple 2 years ago
That's only for 15 year old students, and the reason the US scored lower is because of all the blacks and Mexicans in the public school system. You can call that racist but the PISA scores even showed that white Americans and Asian Americans had the highest scores in the world.
Canada only scores higher because it has no black people. A white Canadian still scores lower than a white American on every single PISA test.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
Wow again you cannot factor race of it - if you want to play that game then Asian students fare far better better than white students.
Canada has no black people? really not a single black person lives in Canada? according to who?
Again you are taking things out of context and furthermore to believe everything you are stating - it is further proof that white
See OECD Mean and distribution of students' socio-economic background for 2006 as they contradict what you say
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
I know Asian students perform better than white students. It's funny how you want admit Asians do better than whties, but you don't want to admit that blacks perform more poorly than both Asians and whites.
Canada has barely any black people. If you deny that you're either a liar or a moron. Canada only scores higher because of having a far, far lower rate of minorities than the US. Yet for each specific race, Americans perform better.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
Canada has almost no black people - Really? Canada has the most racially and culturally diverse cities in the world which have been recognized by many including the OECD, UN and ohers - our cities have the best educated people, The provinces with the highest levels of caucations have the lowest level of education. As noted by Statistics Canada - Education Social factor province (google search) for the available years
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
You are a fucking idiot. You're a brainwashed zombie Canadian with no logic whatsoever.
--Minority population---
United States: 34%
Canada: 16%
The US has over twice as many minorities in relation to population size that Canada does. How you manage to think you're more diverse is hilarious when everyone knows the US, not Canada, is the most diverse nation on earth.
And it's true that you barely have any black people. Blacks make up only 2.5% of Canada, they make up 15% of the US.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
Of course not our rural areas, but our cities are the most culturally diverse cities in the world and ironically our cities are our best educated
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
You are picking the sociological most advantagis population in the US and comparing to a Canadian average.
Your are right in that US very high rates of childhood poverty and the hordes or poor people in your nation do have an impact on the results. This is not something to proud of. You guys have a low standard of living in relation to other major nations - I can see why now
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
No, I'm putting your ignorant, retarded comments in context by showing that demographics and race play into the scores on the PISA tests, it's not just about education quality.
Canada only scored higher on the PISA tests because it has less minorities. Every single specific race in the US still outperformed that same race in Canada. White Americans are smarter and more educated than white Canadians. Black Americans are smarter and more educated than black Canadians etc...
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
Actually if you did your research properly you would know I am originally from China, the same nation that has financed the US for the last 10 years. You are citing third party interpertations of the Data - furthermore they are applying reggresional data gathering on a non regression data model. I will provide tommorow a very detailed point by point rebutal that is not a third party interpertaion of the results
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
Lol what you want me "research" you to find out that you're from China? Funny that you say China finances the US, yet you ignore that all the technology China has comes form the US. China's economy is more dependent on the US than the US is on China. China only is a source of cheap labor to mass produce goods. Most of the factories in China were built by American companies. Most of the products China builds were designed in the US and the west, China simply makes them under contract.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
Sorry you seem to imply that I was white. More dependant and yet amazingly it is interesting how despite the US being in major recession that China still grew at a moderate economic rate
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
by country as a percentage of GNI
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
FAIL. That is only government what governments pledge. That is not how generous a nation is you moron. The International Comparisons of Charitable Giving show that Americans are twice as generous as the next most generous nation, and are way more generous than Canadians.
--Countries ranked by giving as % of GDP--
United States: 1.67%
United Kingdom: .73%
Canada: .72%
Americans are more generous than Canadians, and Americans give out of their own pocket. Canadians brag about government aid.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
GNI is a far more comprehensive measure W + R + I + P + D + IT - Hence it take donations from considerations such as
WAGES & SALARIES INTEREST
DEPRECIATION ALLOWANCE INDIRECT TAXES
INDIRECT TAXES
This is in addition of course in addition to the GDP forumla - as you can see a much much more comprehensive measure as it includes personal donations
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
It's funny because if you looked at GNI instead of GDP, the US would actually outperform countries even more, considering how much American companies have moved production to other countries yet are still owned by Americans.
---List of countries by GNI Per capita---
United States: $46,970
Canada: $36,220
Oh, and your beloved China:
China: $6,020
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
GNI nor GDP is a measure of hard work - it is a measure of value of labour. It has zero to do with how hard someone worlked. Do you think the person who takes 1/2 day to build a 100K rolex watch puts in more labour then someone who puts 40K into home renovations that he did himself
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
It's amazing how desperate you are to avoid acknowledging things that compromise your lie-based Canadian pride.
Americans are the most productive workers in the world. That's a fact. Nobody said anything about how much they exert per dollar earned, it's about the value of their labor as you yourself said. Americans are more valuable, productive workers than people from any other country including Canada.
Americans produce more wealth because of innovation and technology, not manual labor.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
GNI and GDP are a measure are value of productivity and not actuall physical work put in. More valuable, but the wealth is concentrated so high up the ladder. Americas middle class is one of the smallest and it's poverty class is amongst the largest. Canadian middle class are actually more wealthier, more liklely to own their home, and less likely to declare bankruptcy despite the fact it is easier for Canadians to do so
WEALTH, DISPOSABLE INCOME
AND CONSUMPTION
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
and by study by Michael Wolfson and Brian Murphy from Statistics Canada
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
Life expectancy at birth, by sex, by province Statistics Canada. Metropolitan Centres with the most racially diverse populations have the longest life spans. Populations with the highest levels of Caucasions have amongst the lowest. Datatables are all there for you to see
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
As for quality of life, you are cherry picking. I could do the same and cite some far left think tank, but I will make this interesting and use actually a right wing think tank.
See freedom house. Not only do I as a Canadian enjoy higher quality of life, this right wing think tank goes on to state that I as a Canadian are more free than you as an American
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
No, as an Asian Canadian you have higher quality of life than illegal immigrants, hispanics, and black people in the US.
As a white American, I have higher quality of life than everyone in Canada.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
So you cite far right think tanks that use regressive data anaylis - that proves nothing - Search regression and academic dishonesty
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
the 9000-20000 is for medical errors which the US actuall leads the world in per Capita as noted in the OECD country profile 2008 as well health indicators OECD 2008
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
As for surviveability that is why the World Healh organization Infobase systems notes Canadians overall are more likely to survive a Non communciable diseaase than an american? the most comprehensive disease group
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
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SparwoodApple 1 year ago
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, the countries giving the highest amounts of money
1. United States - $22.739 billion
9. Canada - $3.731 billion
Now you may think this proves your point, but percapita our contribution is far higher at $37 billion
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
As for your source regarding productivity - You failed to read your whole source. Nor you understand that Productivity stats is no way shape or form a measure of physical labour or amount of effort. Prodcutivity calculated by this formula
private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports) this number is then divided by population. As you can see by this formula, it is a measure of monetary value of production and not of the effort involved
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
American workers are the most productive in the world. The way they determine it is to divide the GDP of a country by the workforce. The economic output of Americans, per person, is the highest in the world.
You fail. It's amazing how I completely annihilated your arguments in the message I sent you with links, and you just ignore it. Typical Canadian, your only way of having pride is to believe lies and ignore reality.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
It's also funny that you Canadians think youre healthcare is better, even though your politicians come here when their life is on the line. The US medical system is superior to Canada in every single performance measurement. Responsiveness, survival rates from treatable diseases etc..'
But you Canadians think that having slightly higher life expectancy (which is due to lower minority rates, again) means your healthcare is better. Even though white Americans outlive Canadians by 3 years.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
It is far far more superior - WHO rankins say say so. Go to WHO info database - Search logevity search demographics - Actually Canadians out live American whites FAIL
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
There is only ONE SINGLE thing in the WHO that actually gauges relative performance of healthcare; that's called "Responsiveness". The US scores #1 that.
Life expectancy and infant mortality are affected by many things that have nothing to do with healthcare, including race. The tens of millions of illegal immigrants in the US are included, lowering national statistics.
When you factor out unnatural deaths (like car accidents for example) and look at each race, Americans outlive Canadians.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
are you referring to the study done by the economists Robert L. Ohsfeldt and John E. Schneider ? This has been debunked and they refuted their own study in the WSJ November 12, 2007, 4:08 PM ET.Does the U.S. Lead in Life Expectancy? Furthermore the OECD in the country profile of the USA in 2008 actually slammed them for printing incorrect OECD data which did not exist. OECD noted that even after you factor out high US murder accident rate, we still outlive you guys
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
As for health care tourism, 5500 Canadians went ot the US for health care at the absolute highest in 2008. 6 million americans are expected to go overseas for health care in 2010 (Deloitte)
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
Every single post you make is dumb.
You compare how many Canadians come to the US with how many Americans go ALL AROUND THE WORLD for healthcare.
You ignore that most American medical tourism is to save money, and it's usually plastic surgery not life-saving operations. Canadians come to the US when their life is on the line.
The US is better at saving lives. The US has higher cancer survival rates, heart disease survival rates... everything. Every single treatable disease.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
.016% of the Canadian population received health care in the US - Where are the hordes? I selected the absolute highest number I could find and this number includes cosmetic procedures. Really every disease? cite your sources
Search WHO Infobase search Non-communicable diseases and cross compare on the table features between Canada and the US. Canadians are more likely to survive non communicable disease
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
Check your inbox. I've disproved every single thing you've said yet you just keep saying the same things over and over again.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
More from your Census bureau.... the number of people living below the official poverty line grew by 1.3 million in 2003......
DeNavas-Walt, Carmen, Bernadette D. Proctor, and Robert J. Mills, U.S. Census Bureau, "Current Population Reports, P60-226, Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2003," U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, DC 26 Aug 2004.
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
As for quality of Care - not only do Americans have a higher incident of medical error related deaths, it is so common that is the 2nd - 3rd leadiing cause of death in the US
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (National Center for Health Statistics), Deaths: National Vital Statistics Reports: Deaths: Leading Causes
and.....Medical Errors - A Leading Cause of Death
The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA)
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) Vol 284
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
Furhermore see Income, Poverty - U.S. Department of Commerce
Economics and Statistics Administration
U.S. CENSUS BUREAU
Notes on page 2 that all races have seen negative Change in real median
income. Furthermore
"despite the resumption of job growth in September and 4.4% growth in the economy as measured by Gross Domestic Product. The middle-income group lost 0.4 percentage points "
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
a large number of households have slipped out of the middle group and into the lower-income range
From your own US Census bureau
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
The Us is the only "major nation" to border a 3rd world country. Not a single other "major nation" has as many minorities as the US, yet minorities in every single other "major nation" are impoverished and perform poorly compared to the majority in each of those countries.
Despite the statistical disadvantage the US has from having lots of minorities. The US is still the mostly highly educated country in the OECD, with the best universities. The PISA scores only gauge 15 year olds.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
You ignore the link I sent in the private message.
Canada includes vocational training as tertiary education, the US does not. When you only include university level education the US has higher attainment of higher education.
1) United States: 31%
2) Canada: 26%
3) Australia: 25%
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
SparwoodApple 1 year ago
You republican homo...
phacebreaker 2 years ago
Dude:
AMERICAN DOCTORS told him he had Mono.
Americans misdiagnosed him for over a year. Brock refused further testing suggested by Canadian Doctors. Tell the truth Jackass.
newbs7rogerscom 2 years ago 3
It's a shame this retard didn't die.
hislipsaremoving 2 years ago
I'm really starting to like Brock Lesnar.
If he can get rid of his WWF bs, and become a good well spoken pro who can act like a respectable fighter I will be a fan.
I personally think the guy is Green in MMA, but he is for sure on his way to being one of the best. And as a NCAA D1 Wrestling Champ the guy has a great back ground.
I think Brock Lesnar could beat Fedor, or any man alive in that case. Sure Fedor could get the KO standing, but if it hit the mat Brock would destroy him.
rcfreak7777 2 years ago
This is hardly a case of socialized health care are these UFC fans seriously going to take this meatheads advice on the future of their health care system because this chooch couldn't get ample care deep in the CDN wilderness. This meathead shouldn't even be in CDN shooting at our animals let alone criticizing them for not giving proper care on a mis-diagnosis from a US doctor.
nervouss 2 years ago
The healtcare bill is not about the quality of care its about the affordability to pay for that care We all know that the US has the best healtcare service in the world but with no access 2 affordable insurance high premiums and folks being drop for pre existing conditions it is very difficult 4 many americans to afford 2 pay for that care without losing their home and life savings to pay for their medical bills. Mr. Lesnar should educate himself before comenting & repeating rep. talking points
myvwtube 2 years ago 2
Brock Lesnar says he's an "independent contractor" what bullshit...if he's an "independent contractor" why does he exclusively fight for the UFC and not other organizations or other Top Ranked HW's...
Brock Lesnar, enjoy your Million Dollar lifestyle in the boonies paid for by other independent contractors who exclusively suffer under America's health system...
MaladaptiveCatalyst 2 years ago 2
MaladaptiveCatalyst: You're a dope. He signed a contract to fight in the UFC. It's an exclusive contract, but he is not an employee, but rather an independent 'operator' who has signed a contract. The terms of his contract are in terms of him as an individual providing services to the UFC.
Look forward to seeing your poorly-grown half-beard blocking an ambulance at the next WTO protest. Let's be sure to get patchouli covered in the health care bill, too.
Idiot.
kesseljunkie 2 years ago
wow a terminology argument.youre so smart &wise its incredible.also please continue to teach the world how to be so remarkably presumptious of strangers online
was that "Sincerely, Idiot?"or were u calling me an idiot? be more specific next time because the patchouli scent has clogged my head &im not thinking straight. I guess i cant go hunting small game with my friends in Feburary or vote for my socially-conservative Republican Governor anymore or drink a Coors Light. what a shame
Idiot.
MaladaptiveCatalyst 2 years ago