while i do think segovia is the greatest guitar player i have ever heard, I wish he would have abstained from the vibratto in this piece. It is out of place.
@toogoodbw It's only out of place if you hold a rigid opinion of how you think something ought to be played. This whole movement to discourage and denounce players who don't sound "authentic" to the composer are deluded and dangerous to the art form. Notice how the increase in rigidity has been accompanied by an decrease in creativity? The greatest artists of an entire generation would not have been so great if they had been as constrain by the rigidity of today's generation.
@aimson I agree wth you to a point. Art would never evolve if artist performed as the composer intended. Baroque composers knew this and wanted their piece to be interpreted. More often than not the continuo is the channel for the performers unique interpretation. I think dynamics and tempo can be great ways to "add a different flavor" (even though for baroque the dynamics tend to be more ridged). However, Utilizing vibratto in this piece is like showing up to an 80's party in a poodle skirt.
@toogoodbw If you are not opposed to vibrato because it doesn't fit the "baroque style," why else are you opposed to it? I can think of no other reason to make that comment other than because of adherence to the rigid ideal of "authenticity," which is a complete farce in my opinion. If you can come up with a real reason for not using vibrato that does not involve "authenticity" or "baroque style" then I might be able to acknowledge the validity of your opinion.
@aimson The reason I do not like the vibrato here is indirectly related to the period. Vibrato is a great way to express emotion within a single melody. Most solo violin pieces are very monophonic and lend themselves to vibrato. What makes this piece unique is its polyphonic elements. On a single staff bach was able to inject incredibly complex counterpoint. When you implement vibrato on the high voice (the cantus firmus in most cases) it takes away from the counterpoint.
@toogoodbw I can see potential validity in your argument so therefore feel compelled to opine. I do think that the polyphony makes Bach unique but disagree that vibrato "takes away" from the counterpoint. If anything, it takes away from the purity of intonation, which I suppose you could argue as being important for highlighting counterpoint. However, the counterpoint comes out just as nicely with vibrato and there is no reason to believe it is not enhanced in the same way as the voice itself.
@aimson I can also argue that the point of vibrato is not simply for emotional expression, at least not on violin. It also provides a more aesthetically pleasing tone, which is absolutely central for classical guitar. Segovia gains incredible beauty from his vibrato here. In addition, there are different types of vibrato that add color or expression depending on how it is used. In this light, vibrato can actually enhance the articulation of the voices by allowing additional "tools" for shaping.
@toogoodbw I may be wrong but I still suspect that you are highly influenced by the perceived "inauthenticity" of vibrato for the era. While this may be true from a historical perspective, it should not be used as an argument for judging the quality of the listening experience. If you had said you thought Segovia did not highlight the counterpoint well enough, I would have accepted that readily. However, by critiquing vibrato as a category, your argument becomes tainted with preconceived bias.
I believe that at a certain level of vituosity it is up to taste, completly. At this level, I don't think one is better than the other, just different. This happens to be my favorite interpretation! This is great!
Segovia was deeply influenced by Busoni's piano transcription, hence the extra notes. Like it or not, the man knew what sounded good on the guitar! I'm working on this transcription now--minus a few slurs.
i am living with a older man at his farm right now that has been listening to this music his whole life and studying. He owns a guitar shop and has a very low confidence level. Last night i heard this song for the first time all the way through coming out of his fingers i was absolutely astounded and humbled. I feel so lucky just to know this song exists.
helo i was lookiung for justin beaver but somehow i got this crap its not cool its got no base in it, i want my money back. Oh, and go find Yehudi Menuhin\s version! ;)
La Chacona de Segovia es casi casi celestial. E escuchado a Yepes tocarla y no, no se compara. El estilo de Segovia es mas fluido, mas enfocado, mas sutil, Un gran Maestro. Bravo y mis respetos.
That was absoulutly AMAZING!!!!!!!! wow! I hope to learn this piece one day, Im getting better and better every day learning to read and theory of music.
@CatastrophicDisease My favorites also. I love all the guitarist you listed but I never heard of Eddie Hazel. Thanks for the heads up. I have been performing since 1960 and have met a couple of the guitarists you listed. Throughout my career I have met unknown guitarists who rank right up there; there are hundreds of thousands of great talented guitarists we never get to hear. Have an open heart and mind always.
@oldpython That's awesome, meeting all those guys. And yeah, Eddie Hazel's amazing, I haven't heard anyone build solos to a climax better than he. His best song is Maggot Brain with the band Funkadelic.
@Explosiveelm Yngwie and Satch are great, Randy was just alright, miles away from Segovia, Williams, McLaughlin, Yepes, De Lucia, Torroba, Farlow, Benson, DiMeola, and a long etcetera.
Perhaps his real name was not ''Segovia'' ?? ''Segovia'' is a Spanish city name; maybe he was native ''from'' that city, and created his artist name as it is, correct me !
@MrJuanito1548 Well, I will enjoy WITH comparing, thank you. We are the listeners and have a right to an opinion. Being able to play as well as Segovia means little. Let the lay people who know nothing about music enjoy without comparing, and let those of us who have been playing music all our lives to do what is intellectually stimulating and we love.
@aimson whether you compare or not is up to you personally, don't involve music knowledge or talent or anything, besides the way things are today if you want to play in a moderate level and don't have the skills you pay a teacher for years to tell you step by step little secrets to reduce bad habits and involve, if you have skills the way things are today you have paid the teacher i 've said for a little time and when you have totally eliminated basic bad habits you go to a maestro for
@aimson a more detailed search on playing and phrasing and then it's the time you can/may/ought to talk about compare thing abort or adopt etc by the way segovia wasn't and isn't good at all he only have the support at the right time to be on top, he didn't deserve that.
@atzitzikas How can you say that. Even if he was not the greatest guitar player (which is very hard to decide) he made the guitar an instrument for the concert hall. Before him the guitar was not realy treated as an instrument for 'great ' music. He changed that.
@aimson Let the lay people who know LITTLE about music but nonetheless buy tickets and records and enjoy listening to great musicians try and improve their condition, get more involved into music and maybe sometimes respectfully comment and compare, too. Without a paying audience only already rich musicians could afford to devote all their time to their main interest.
By the way: I noticed that patience and respect towards the lay people is somewhat proportional to the talent of the musician.
@alexdrudigmail Well, it depends. I'd say the audience is expert at overall judgment and understanding emotion, perhaps even more so than "experts." However, most in the audience really can't tell the difference between musicians beyond general impression and are not as insightful at the more deeper levels of musicianship. Who knows, I'm just guessing, but I think there is some truth to this.
@aimson Actually, being able to play as well as Segovia makes you a legend, regardless what your opinion of him is or not. There isn't an accomplished classical guitarist alive today who doesn't revere Segovia for what he did for the guitar as a concert instrument.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: comparison of artists at this level of accomplishment is moot. The comparisons will always be purely subjective, concerning nothing more than interpretation. Don't waste time. Go practice.
@MrJuanito1548 My Dear Sir. I stand corrected. My comment was intended in another way. I shall always respect whoever appreciates the magistry of Don Andrés (whom I personally met in Villafranca del Castillo, Madrid in 1984. I was fortunate enough to study high school witn his youngest son). Yes you are right!! opinions do matter, especially with artists of this nature. I simply wanted to enjoy his notes, truely I appoligise for any misunderstanding
I am now following the learning path through these amazing vidoes of Segovia, I am a late starter of Classical Guitar after playing such bad habits of contemporary guitar for years, but what an influence! We have to be thankful that such an amazing talent ever existed and is forever inspirational! :}>
Everyone who is riding Segovia and shitting on everything else needs to get off their high horse. You're posting comments on YouTube. Don't you expect that pop music will get more views than a classical guitarist, even one of the greatest guitarists there ever was?
....and playing in front of an orchestra without a mic....that´s just one of the crazy things, competitive musicians somtimes do. Experiments and showing off! Worse things have been done in this world.
....and playing in front of an orchestra without a mic....that´s just one of the crazy things, competitive musicians somtimes do. Experiments and showing off! Worse things have been done in this world.
....and playing in front of an orchestra without a mic....that´s just one of the crazy things, competitive musicians somtimes do. Experiments and showing off! Worse things have been done in this world.
Have you actually heard the recording, I am talking about? Of course it is blurred. It was made in 1934, so the recording technique wasn´t too good, and as the guitar sounds one octave lower, than it is notated, it was hard to record. He is not really egomaniac. He was from another time with another approach to speed, rythm and phrasing. Listen to the violinist, Joseph Joachim. It´s the same tradition, - the tradition of the late 1800s.
@ididete I stand by my comments. Segovia was good. great.. but the piece works better on violin. and he was a dogmatic-his way or the highway-egomanicac. Not that there is anything wrong with that if one strongly believes in one's self. But like John Williams said about segovia not using a microphone. all you could hear was little squeaks and plunks in the back of the hall. And then he actually tried to put an un mic'd guitar with an orchestra! preposterous!
Segovia transcribed this piece from Bach original score this in itself was an awsome feat of transcription the Chaconne is probably the most beautiful and complex piece of music ever concieved by the human brain and Segovias version in my opinion surpasses The violin version by Heifitz (pardon my Spelling)
According to Fred Gaisberg, who produced most of the great recordings of the first half of the C20th, recording Andres Segovia was always the easiest assignment of all. "All he needed was a chair." - John Ajustin, Australia
This is very good. But Segovia was not nearly as great as HE thought he was. Look up some old guitar player interviews. According to him only classical guitar was valid and everything else was foolish folk music. That is some serious head up one's ass ego. I would rather hear blind blake or big bill broonzy than segovia. Not because I don't like classical, but because he was an egomanical snob. And yes, the chaccone is much better on violin. Especially when played by Heifetz..
@parachuteman4 Since when do we give a shit about the person behind the music? I dont care if you are a vanilla rapist, if you create decent music, I will listen to it.
@parachuteman4 the dogs bark and bark and the wind carries their barking through the air...while the great ones who really did something stay forever.
That building up arpeggio part at 4:44 is just summing up all the magic and the expression of all kind of feelings... gives me goose bumps. It is an countless honour to have been born in the same town in which a genius of his height was born. I've been in his house (nowadays a museum) and the townhall's clock in Linares plays Andres Segovia's own compsition: Concierto sin Luz every hour o'clock.
For me, one of Bach's greatest masterpieces. Absolutely sublime! It never gets old.
I grew up listening to classical guitar because my Dad was a musician who studied classical Guitar. Segovia was alive and well at the time. It's wonderful to have all these audio and video clips to treasure and they are truly treasures.
Johannes Brahms, in a letter to Clara Schumann, said about the ciaccona:
On one stave, for a small instrument, the man writes a whole world of the deepest thoughts and most powerful feelings. If I imagined that I could have created, even conceived the piece, I am quite certain that the excess of excitement and earth-shattering experience would have driven me out of my mind.
@backhand4 May I translate for people cannot read english? This is really worth it.
Johannes Brahms, en una carta a Clara Schumann, dijo sobre la ciaccona:
" En un pentagrama para un pequeño instrumento, el hombre escribe un mundo entero de los más profundos y poderosos sentimientos. Si hubiera imaginado lo que pude haber creado, incluso concebido la pieza, estoy bastante seguro de que el exceso de entusiasmo y conmoción experimentados me volvería loco."
How old is this recording? It could be reproduction on my end but it doesn't sound like he was paying much attention to consistensy of tone and attack. Elderly (and R&R) players can lose high frequency hearing and be unaware of variations in the high end.
I'll always revere Segovia for resurrecting and championing the classical guitar but I think his greater contributions came as an inspiration, teacher and transcriber , rather than as a performer.
@unusuallylucky I agree, but his harmonizations of implied harmony pieces (like the bach solo string suites) tend to be overly "italian opera" lol, and sometimes even Gershwin-like... I still say the best arrangement is the proper fingering of only the notes from Bach's hand.
I have read comments on other peoples versions of this that Segovia's version is over crowded, how he adds extra chords, and the like. Well yes he does, I have seen original and arrangements on score. By no means is this a bad thing. It gives a bigger depth and sound to the guitar that no other arrangement has. The only downside is that it makes it harder for me to play it! I don't think it fair for anyone to write off a true master of the guitar. Especially when they can't play themselves.
Wow, 45 people either made mistake and hit dislike by error or they lack any sense of art. Performance like this by master himself, what's to dislike.
@KV467 study YOUR language.. "your" is possessive, "you're" is a contraction of "you are". If you want to make a fool of yourself, go ahead. In the mean time I'm going to relish this musical genius.
@Lanochetriste1 Mate. Just because he wrote it in the baroque era doesn't mean it should be played in baroque style. The reason why most people learn to play in baroque style is to see and hear what it would have been played like, not because it "sounds better" or is more "accurate." In fact, the original manuscript lacks much guidance for the player...so how could they know what is accurate? Surely the emotion in this piece is better reflected in romantic style.
@Lanochetriste1 Actually, this is well within the bounds of Baroque style playing. Tiered dynamics and very clear layering of sound. Rubato is also perfectly acceptable in the baroque style as long as it's within the large beat.
@luisfcoliveira pff that you been sold the image that Segovia is the greatest guitarist ever shows your ignorance on the matter. i respect Segovia for endorsing the guitar as he did in the USA but he also destroyed and monopolized the guitar (destroyed). he credited him self with many works on behave of many masters for example tarrega, pujol , barrios , ramos , even villalobos etc!!!
@luisfcoliveira Don't you mean no more than mediocre? Anyway, what you said is complete rubbish. How can you possibly argue that Segovia has made a better contribution than say Tarrega?
at the same time you cant affirmate that Tarrega had a good rendition on the Guitar as you talk expressiveness, well never know unfortunatelly
Prokofiev for example was not a good piano player, but a genius composer, for the few and rare recordings you can find
Tarrega is probably the largest guitar composer so far
He assured a school that Segovia denied, which i personally think it is as valuable for the instrument as this, or perhaps the identity of the intrument even
segovia is a master of the classical guitar, but in no less of a way than hendrix was a master of blues guitar, or kerry king a master of thrash, or jack johnson a master of surf. dont make this more than it is: a great recording. he is by no means king of the instrument, nor a god, nor the best player that ever lived. he helped to popularize a style of the guitar, the spanish classical, through reinventing bach and scarlatti et al. but blind lemon jefferson rocks too, poor technique and all...
@AndreasItalo not meaning to be condescending, but I think you couldn't be more wrong. Almost every guitar "version" I've heard of this piece simply doesn't sound "right". Segovia translates the music as though he wrote it himself. Absolutely beautiful. Yepes is a great player, but not near as in-touch with the music as Segovia. This is exactly how it is supposed to sound
abby161919 asked what year Segovia wrote this. It was, of course, not written by Segovia but transcribed from Bach`s original.But the relationship between composer and player ( interpreter ) has always been magical with Segovia especially when I hear him playing Bach. I really feel transported back in time. Similar with Julian Bream , another great transposer and interpreter of ancient music.
of course, cant deny how great this is--but you have to admit, Julian Bream's interpretation is much more fluid and connected. and it has more personality
I always wondered why I always see an old segovia....even in the early 60's he looks old. Now i know why...he is from the 19th century!!! He was born 1894 !!!
You tube is a platform for video. The fact that it get's 4 1/2 stars without a video speaks volumes. Any dont be so negative, not everyone can be as clever as you!
Segovia's first public performance of Bach's Chaconne was probably the most important single event in the development of the guitar as a classical instrument in the C20th, and was an example of his musical integrity which we can all learn from
given the rubbish by beginners that routinely gets five stars here, the current rating for this vid speaks volumes about the lack of discernment amongst YouTube users, and little about the quality of Segovia's playing
@utzuckz Well the reason beginners get 5 stars is they personally put considerable effort in to learn what simple pieces they can - and people appreciate that, why would you discourage a beginner? It's simply ludicrous to compare beginners with Segovia.
Beautiful!!! One of my faves for classical guitar. Love Segovia's arrangement best.
dreambrew 2 weeks ago
Man's greatest accomplishment. I still can't grasp it. 8 years of study into this and it's still amazes me.
cppnak10 2 weeks ago
@haloscorp4444 / lol ! You must have had your volume turned up all the way!
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@2:23 WHY???!!!!
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porchmonkey401k 3 months ago
Great guitarist. Probably the best evert. And didn't need to plug his instrument! Yes, Segovia unplugged.
AntonioSaucedo22 4 months ago in playlist Andres Segovia 01
while i do think segovia is the greatest guitar player i have ever heard, I wish he would have abstained from the vibratto in this piece. It is out of place.
toogoodbw 4 months ago
@toogoodbw It's only out of place if you hold a rigid opinion of how you think something ought to be played. This whole movement to discourage and denounce players who don't sound "authentic" to the composer are deluded and dangerous to the art form. Notice how the increase in rigidity has been accompanied by an decrease in creativity? The greatest artists of an entire generation would not have been so great if they had been as constrain by the rigidity of today's generation.
aimson 3 months ago
@aimson I agree wth you to a point. Art would never evolve if artist performed as the composer intended. Baroque composers knew this and wanted their piece to be interpreted. More often than not the continuo is the channel for the performers unique interpretation. I think dynamics and tempo can be great ways to "add a different flavor" (even though for baroque the dynamics tend to be more ridged). However, Utilizing vibratto in this piece is like showing up to an 80's party in a poodle skirt.
toogoodbw 3 months ago
@toogoodbw If you are not opposed to vibrato because it doesn't fit the "baroque style," why else are you opposed to it? I can think of no other reason to make that comment other than because of adherence to the rigid ideal of "authenticity," which is a complete farce in my opinion. If you can come up with a real reason for not using vibrato that does not involve "authenticity" or "baroque style" then I might be able to acknowledge the validity of your opinion.
aimson 3 months ago
@aimson The reason I do not like the vibrato here is indirectly related to the period. Vibrato is a great way to express emotion within a single melody. Most solo violin pieces are very monophonic and lend themselves to vibrato. What makes this piece unique is its polyphonic elements. On a single staff bach was able to inject incredibly complex counterpoint. When you implement vibrato on the high voice (the cantus firmus in most cases) it takes away from the counterpoint.
toogoodbw 3 months ago
@toogoodbw I can see potential validity in your argument so therefore feel compelled to opine. I do think that the polyphony makes Bach unique but disagree that vibrato "takes away" from the counterpoint. If anything, it takes away from the purity of intonation, which I suppose you could argue as being important for highlighting counterpoint. However, the counterpoint comes out just as nicely with vibrato and there is no reason to believe it is not enhanced in the same way as the voice itself.
aimson 3 months ago
@aimson I can also argue that the point of vibrato is not simply for emotional expression, at least not on violin. It also provides a more aesthetically pleasing tone, which is absolutely central for classical guitar. Segovia gains incredible beauty from his vibrato here. In addition, there are different types of vibrato that add color or expression depending on how it is used. In this light, vibrato can actually enhance the articulation of the voices by allowing additional "tools" for shaping.
aimson 3 months ago
@toogoodbw I may be wrong but I still suspect that you are highly influenced by the perceived "inauthenticity" of vibrato for the era. While this may be true from a historical perspective, it should not be used as an argument for judging the quality of the listening experience. If you had said you thought Segovia did not highlight the counterpoint well enough, I would have accepted that readily. However, by critiquing vibrato as a category, your argument becomes tainted with preconceived bias.
aimson 3 months ago
2:23 - 2:25 nice
victorazm 4 months ago
So skillfull and colourfull at the same time!
nikosz66 4 months ago
To make a guitar sound like an orchestra and to make a thought shrink to a note is what defines a master from an adept.
elkat1988 4 months ago
Segovia ! You're the master ! You're the maestro !
His tones are full of color ! Full of Beauty are his expressions !
YadQurbany 4 months ago 2
This is a gorgeous piece to listen to (and lots of fun to play :) good post.
newislandguitar 5 months ago
I believe that at a certain level of vituosity it is up to taste, completly. At this level, I don't think one is better than the other, just different. This happens to be my favorite interpretation! This is great!
MrSnorlax22 5 months ago
Segovia was deeply influenced by Busoni's piano transcription, hence the extra notes. Like it or not, the man knew what sounded good on the guitar! I'm working on this transcription now--minus a few slurs.
guitarwizard6 5 months ago
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katsurixin 5 months ago
i am living with a older man at his farm right now that has been listening to this music his whole life and studying. He owns a guitar shop and has a very low confidence level. Last night i heard this song for the first time all the way through coming out of his fingers i was absolutely astounded and humbled. I feel so lucky just to know this song exists.
EvH920410 6 months ago
i bet all the people that dont like, carn't post a vid this good of themself, or let see maybe they can lol.
padario44 6 months ago
how can you not like this?
padario44 6 months ago
yo toco mejor que segovia¡¡¡
alejitoakt18 6 months ago
2:24 Segovia lets out a damn fart while playing!
Imre777 6 months ago
@Imre777 ROFL!
xcaluhbration 5 months ago
3:30 Is where we can confirm if Bach never existed, shred guitar would not. :P
I absolutely love J.S. Bach.
cjdabes 7 months ago
@cjdabes amen!
elvinagrillo 6 months ago
56 regular viewers of the Jay Leno show disliked this video. They have no concept of what's good and what's bad.
Gnillob802 7 months ago
helo i was lookiung for justin beaver but somehow i got this crap its not cool its got no base in it, i want my money back. Oh, and go find Yehudi Menuhin\s version! ;)
MrMegazuki 7 months ago
5 stars for Bach, and 5 stars for Segovia
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People listen to this(my chaconne) !! and if you like it! thumbs up! help me to get more views.!!..but only if you like it...:PP
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lakimelmak 8 months ago 7
La Chacona de Segovia es casi casi celestial. E escuchado a Yepes tocarla y no, no se compara. El estilo de Segovia es mas fluido, mas enfocado, mas sutil, Un gran Maestro. Bravo y mis respetos.
izzydjinn76 8 months ago 3
Ha senso vivere solo per ascoltare questa melodia...
Vesalius70 8 months ago
That part at 2:23 scared the SHIT out of me! xD
haloscorp4444 9 months ago 20
Сеговия - гений!
elephanthulfe 9 months ago
The better Chaconne,,ever,,this fantastic music speak to you via SEGOVIA spirit and hands..
makis5998 9 months ago 2
the master of colour and liquid time.
wafertheen 9 months ago
That was absoulutly AMAZING!!!!!!!! wow! I hope to learn this piece one day, Im getting better and better every day learning to read and theory of music.
Swiftvote 9 months ago
Top Five Guitarists ever, in my humble opinion:
1) Andres Segovia
2) Eddie Hazel
3) Paco de Lucia
4) Jimmy Page
5) Jimi Hendrix
CatastrophicDisease 9 months ago
@CatastrophicDisease excuse me? John Williams is greater. even above Segovia .
woodyaan 9 months ago
@woodyaan I'm confused, John Williams the composer? That's the only one I know . . .
CatastrophicDisease 9 months ago
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woodyaan 9 months ago
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woodyaan 9 months ago
@CatastrophicDisease My favorites also. I love all the guitarist you listed but I never heard of Eddie Hazel. Thanks for the heads up. I have been performing since 1960 and have met a couple of the guitarists you listed. Throughout my career I have met unknown guitarists who rank right up there; there are hundreds of thousands of great talented guitarists we never get to hear. Have an open heart and mind always.
oldpython 9 months ago
@oldpython That's awesome, meeting all those guys. And yeah, Eddie Hazel's amazing, I haven't heard anyone build solos to a climax better than he. His best song is Maggot Brain with the band Funkadelic.
CatastrophicDisease 9 months ago
@CatastrophicDisease 1.) Andres Segovia
2.) John Williams
3.) Yngwie Malmsteen
4.) Randy Rhoads
5.) Joe Satriani
Explosiveelm 8 months ago
@Explosiveelm Yngwie and Satch are great, Randy was just alright, miles away from Segovia, Williams, McLaughlin, Yepes, De Lucia, Torroba, Farlow, Benson, DiMeola, and a long etcetera.
rodcrippler 8 months ago
Insane Baroque'n'Roll, shredded to perfection by the Godfather of the Guitar.
Encore Maestro!
key2kingdom 10 months ago
I spy 54 jealous violinists, and 1,142 appreciative musicians.
CK724001 10 months ago 11
Chaconne sucks...
JUST KIDDING
Holy grail of all music! :D
Alvinacid 10 months ago
@Alvinacid Actually, it sucks. It suck all my energy and musical emotion from me :-)
rainywindow 6 months ago
2:25 scared the shit out of me
MrLwliang 10 months ago 4
@MrLwliang I read your comment and waited....scared me too,lol.
MrPensfanforlife 10 months ago
greatest guitarist and genius composer
JustLucky0611 10 months ago
start listen at 3:32
SuperDzeka 11 months ago
Perhaps his real name was not ''Segovia'' ?? ''Segovia'' is a Spanish city name; maybe he was native ''from'' that city, and created his artist name as it is, correct me !
Sylvain894 11 months ago
You don,t have to worry we who are in the know who you are. And buy the way you have a great personalty.
ColinBurnside 11 months ago
Well done mate GSNI
ColinBurnside 11 months ago
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How can you "call" this? i think this is more than music
mikopremio 11 months ago
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mikopremio 11 months ago
Perhaps in 200 years, people will be able to place his talent in perspective; much as we have with Mozart. Sublime.
theMacvarish 11 months ago
Easier on guitar than on violin Mr Maestro ! Yours to share your comments !
Sylvain894 11 months ago
Easier on guitar than on violin Mr Maestro !
Sylvain894 11 months ago
What did Segovia use to play guitar? Nails or fingertips?
The part between 1:05 and 1:17 is played very close to bridge?
Max0Inq 1 year ago
@Max0Inq i supose
MrArdelco1970 4 months ago
Lets enjoy without comparing, for who are we?
MrJuanito1548 1 year ago 31
@MrJuanito1548 Well, I will enjoy WITH comparing, thank you. We are the listeners and have a right to an opinion. Being able to play as well as Segovia means little. Let the lay people who know nothing about music enjoy without comparing, and let those of us who have been playing music all our lives to do what is intellectually stimulating and we love.
aimson 1 year ago 17
@aimson whether you compare or not is up to you personally, don't involve music knowledge or talent or anything, besides the way things are today if you want to play in a moderate level and don't have the skills you pay a teacher for years to tell you step by step little secrets to reduce bad habits and involve, if you have skills the way things are today you have paid the teacher i 've said for a little time and when you have totally eliminated basic bad habits you go to a maestro for
atzitzikas 11 months ago
@aimson a more detailed search on playing and phrasing and then it's the time you can/may/ought to talk about compare thing abort or adopt etc by the way segovia wasn't and isn't good at all he only have the support at the right time to be on top, he didn't deserve that.
atzitzikas 11 months ago
@atzitzikas How can you say that. Even if he was not the greatest guitar player (which is very hard to decide) he made the guitar an instrument for the concert hall. Before him the guitar was not realy treated as an instrument for 'great ' music. He changed that.
tasteism 9 months ago 2
@aimson agreed anyone who has studied guitar knows Andres Segovia's legendary status and its not really worth talking about.
LifeisforGuitar 11 months ago
@aimson
You are wrong.
Farafafoin 8 months ago
@aimson Let the lay people who know LITTLE about music but nonetheless buy tickets and records and enjoy listening to great musicians try and improve their condition, get more involved into music and maybe sometimes respectfully comment and compare, too. Without a paying audience only already rich musicians could afford to devote all their time to their main interest.
By the way: I noticed that patience and respect towards the lay people is somewhat proportional to the talent of the musician.
alexdrudigmail 7 months ago 4
@alexdrudigmail Well, it depends. I'd say the audience is expert at overall judgment and understanding emotion, perhaps even more so than "experts." However, most in the audience really can't tell the difference between musicians beyond general impression and are not as insightful at the more deeper levels of musicianship. Who knows, I'm just guessing, but I think there is some truth to this.
aimson 7 months ago 3
@aimson Actually, being able to play as well as Segovia makes you a legend, regardless what your opinion of him is or not. There isn't an accomplished classical guitarist alive today who doesn't revere Segovia for what he did for the guitar as a concert instrument.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: comparison of artists at this level of accomplishment is moot. The comparisons will always be purely subjective, concerning nothing more than interpretation. Don't waste time. Go practice.
Trumpetz81 6 months ago 3
@Trumpetz81 Oops, is or is not*
I'm a grammar Nazi as well.
Trumpetz81 6 months ago
what a great guitar player, i mean the best
mx5leader 4 months ago
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what a great guitar player, i mean the best
mx5leader 4 months ago
@MrJuanito1548 My Dear Sir. I stand corrected. My comment was intended in another way. I shall always respect whoever appreciates the magistry of Don Andrés (whom I personally met in Villafranca del Castillo, Madrid in 1984. I was fortunate enough to study high school witn his youngest son). Yes you are right!! opinions do matter, especially with artists of this nature. I simply wanted to enjoy his notes, truely I appoligise for any misunderstanding
MrJuanito1548 1 year ago
@MrJuanito1548 git r done
supermaques 4 months ago
I am now following the learning path through these amazing vidoes of Segovia, I am a late starter of Classical Guitar after playing such bad habits of contemporary guitar for years, but what an influence! We have to be thankful that such an amazing talent ever existed and is forever inspirational! :}>
scotcheggtrio 1 year ago
oirlo es como tomarse un buen Vino
ANGELCROSS3000 1 year ago
I ate my guitar in 1993...
AbsoluteMonarchist 1 year ago
@AbsoluteMonarchist LOLllllll. Why ?
Pikangu 1 year ago
@Pikangu - It was a bet. The guy never paid up though.
AbsoluteMonarchist 1 year ago
Everyone who is riding Segovia and shitting on everything else needs to get off their high horse. You're posting comments on YouTube. Don't you expect that pop music will get more views than a classical guitarist, even one of the greatest guitarists there ever was?
xr4tk 1 year ago
@xr4tk i saw him in Montreal at 12 years old , he is the best of all !!
legionnaire52 1 year ago
He really understood percussion -> vibration
JBnotthescotch 1 year ago
Битлз, Веберн, Дассен,Сеговейя - в таком вот разрезе, примерно, в 60-70-е для нас стал приоткрываться Запад. Глен гульд, Ванда Ландовска ...
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....and playing in front of an orchestra without a mic....that´s just one of the crazy things, competitive musicians somtimes do. Experiments and showing off! Worse things have been done in this world.
metteholm75 1 year ago
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....and playing in front of an orchestra without a mic....that´s just one of the crazy things, competitive musicians somtimes do. Experiments and showing off! Worse things have been done in this world.
metteholm75 1 year ago
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....and playing in front of an orchestra without a mic....that´s just one of the crazy things, competitive musicians somtimes do. Experiments and showing off! Worse things have been done in this world.
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metteholm75 1 year ago
Have you actually heard the recording, I am talking about? Of course it is blurred. It was made in 1934, so the recording technique wasn´t too good, and as the guitar sounds one octave lower, than it is notated, it was hard to record. He is not really egomaniac. He was from another time with another approach to speed, rythm and phrasing. Listen to the violinist, Joseph Joachim. It´s the same tradition, - the tradition of the late 1800s.
metteholm75 1 year ago
@ididete I stand by my comments. Segovia was good. great.. but the piece works better on violin. and he was a dogmatic-his way or the highway-egomanicac. Not that there is anything wrong with that if one strongly believes in one's self. But like John Williams said about segovia not using a microphone. all you could hear was little squeaks and plunks in the back of the hall. And then he actually tried to put an un mic'd guitar with an orchestra! preposterous!
parachuteman4 1 year ago
im in heaven when i hear this =)
bloodline862 1 year ago
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Segovias early performance of this piece fully as moving as Chr. Ferras (violin).
metteholm75 1 year ago
Segivas early performance of this piece fully as moving as Chr. Ferras (violin).
metteholm75 1 year ago
the guitar's chaconne is the best!!!
MrSnorlax22 1 year ago
Segovia transcribed this piece from Bach original score this in itself was an awsome feat of transcription the Chaconne is probably the most beautiful and complex piece of music ever concieved by the human brain and Segovias version in my opinion surpasses The violin version by Heifitz (pardon my Spelling)
tangodancer1000 1 year ago
According to Fred Gaisberg, who produced most of the great recordings of the first half of the C20th, recording Andres Segovia was always the easiest assignment of all. "All he needed was a chair." - John Ajustin, Australia
jrakg 1 year ago
the baroque era had the most beautiful peaces
especially the ones in minor
Noahshollow 1 year ago
Amazing. Truly amazing
jsavino96 1 year ago
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taiflint 1 year ago
good old tree
backwoodsgps 1 year ago
This is very good. But Segovia was not nearly as great as HE thought he was. Look up some old guitar player interviews. According to him only classical guitar was valid and everything else was foolish folk music. That is some serious head up one's ass ego. I would rather hear blind blake or big bill broonzy than segovia. Not because I don't like classical, but because he was an egomanical snob. And yes, the chaccone is much better on violin. Especially when played by Heifetz..
parachuteman4 1 year ago
@parachuteman4 Since when do we give a shit about the person behind the music? I dont care if you are a vanilla rapist, if you create decent music, I will listen to it.
LongPig 1 year ago
@parachuteman4 the dogs bark and bark and the wind carries their barking through the air...while the great ones who really did something stay forever.
ididete 1 year ago
@parachuteman4 Ad Hominem... If we follow your premises then we should not listen to most contemporary artists.
acadusle 1 year ago
That building up arpeggio part at 4:44 is just summing up all the magic and the expression of all kind of feelings... gives me goose bumps. It is an countless honour to have been born in the same town in which a genius of his height was born. I've been in his house (nowadays a museum) and the townhall's clock in Linares plays Andres Segovia's own compsition: Concierto sin Luz every hour o'clock.
MoroLocoFiestero 1 year ago
For me, one of Bach's greatest masterpieces. Absolutely sublime! It never gets old.
I grew up listening to classical guitar because my Dad was a musician who studied classical Guitar. Segovia was alive and well at the time. It's wonderful to have all these audio and video clips to treasure and they are truly treasures.
pluggedin2u 1 year ago
i had this up so loud the crazy buzzing at 2:30 almost made me shit my pants.. beautiful rendition, but segovia's always are
Shenanigasm 1 year ago 2
@Shenanigasm LOLOLOL
MoroLocoFiestero 1 year ago
mmm love
mlr22272 1 year ago
aimson thank you for sharing, that is the only thing i can comment the rest are almost holly.
skakisla 1 year ago
Johannes Brahms, in a letter to Clara Schumann, said about the ciaccona:
On one stave, for a small instrument, the man writes a whole world of the deepest thoughts and most powerful feelings. If I imagined that I could have created, even conceived the piece, I am quite certain that the excess of excitement and earth-shattering experience would have driven me out of my mind.
backhand4 1 year ago 44
where can i get this material ??thnaks. I ll apriciatte it
martinarturo1000 1 year ago
@backhand4 : Brahms was also notoriously self depricating, destroying most of his own works. But its still a great compliment.
dresmith2 11 months ago
@backhand4 May I translate for people cannot read english? This is really worth it.
Johannes Brahms, en una carta a Clara Schumann, dijo sobre la ciaccona:
" En un pentagrama para un pequeño instrumento, el hombre escribe un mundo entero de los más profundos y poderosos sentimientos. Si hubiera imaginado lo que pude haber creado, incluso concebido la pieza, estoy bastante seguro de que el exceso de entusiasmo y conmoción experimentados me volvería loco."
Algo por el estilo.
fgioriva 9 months ago
Amazing! What purity of technique and emotion! Incomparable Segovia. Thank you for sharing this.
alludaangel 1 year ago
I love the Chaconne, and I love classical guitar (even played it myself a bit) but I don't like this, sorry.
dragmio 1 year ago
This to beautiful!!!
edbeerepootable 1 year ago
iv heard a better version that segovia threw out but this one is next best!
jessegguitar 1 year ago
Awesome! TY.
paulostroff99 1 year ago
How old is this recording? It could be reproduction on my end but it doesn't sound like he was paying much attention to consistensy of tone and attack. Elderly (and R&R) players can lose high frequency hearing and be unaware of variations in the high end.
I'll always revere Segovia for resurrecting and championing the classical guitar but I think his greater contributions came as an inspiration, teacher and transcriber , rather than as a performer.
unusuallylucky 1 year ago
@unusuallylucky I agree, but his harmonizations of implied harmony pieces (like the bach solo string suites) tend to be overly "italian opera" lol, and sometimes even Gershwin-like... I still say the best arrangement is the proper fingering of only the notes from Bach's hand.
jazzpsalti 1 year ago
I have read comments on other peoples versions of this that Segovia's version is over crowded, how he adds extra chords, and the like. Well yes he does, I have seen original and arrangements on score. By no means is this a bad thing. It gives a bigger depth and sound to the guitar that no other arrangement has. The only downside is that it makes it harder for me to play it! I don't think it fair for anyone to write off a true master of the guitar. Especially when they can't play themselves.
TheYorkshireJack 1 year ago 3
aimson thanks for this gem
i understand it was segovia who transcribed this for guitar.
who could be better than him to do so
straight to favs
themusicdr 1 year ago
The Master with a majuscule M ..
Berdjum 1 year ago
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Wow, 45 people either made mistake and hit dislike by error or they lack any sense of art. Performance like this by master himself, what's to dislike.
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Pashatube 1 year ago
Original 1934 recording from the LP:
watch?v=LXUbFE5qRCA
thanks and regards
classicvinylbiz 1 year ago
Divine!
swimminggr 1 year ago
@KV467 study YOUR language.. "your" is possessive, "you're" is a contraction of "you are". If you want to make a fool of yourself, go ahead. In the mean time I'm going to relish this musical genius.
blurty16 1 year ago
SEGOVIA THIS IS BACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FROM THE BAROQUE ERA!!!
NOT THE ROMANTIC ERA!!!!
THE DAY THAT YOU COMPOSE A PIECE PLAY IT HOW EVER YOU WANT!!!!!!
RESPECT THE MASTER THAT COMPOSE THIS MUSIC!!!!!
(AND YES I KNOW HE'S DEAD) I LIKE THE JOHN WILLIAMS PERFORMANCE BETTER.
WHY IS IT THAT EVERY TIME HE HITS A HIGH NOT E HE HAD TO RUBATO?
Lanochetriste1 1 year ago
@Lanochetriste1 Mate. Just because he wrote it in the baroque era doesn't mean it should be played in baroque style. The reason why most people learn to play in baroque style is to see and hear what it would have been played like, not because it "sounds better" or is more "accurate." In fact, the original manuscript lacks much guidance for the player...so how could they know what is accurate? Surely the emotion in this piece is better reflected in romantic style.
jkong000 1 year ago
@Lanochetriste1 Actually, this is well within the bounds of Baroque style playing. Tiered dynamics and very clear layering of sound. Rubato is also perfectly acceptable in the baroque style as long as it's within the large beat.
jinfiesto 1 year ago
the one and only segovia ... superb, leaves me speechless every single time
stayroferwn 1 year ago
I love the power of his playing. I feel like I am on a magic flying carpet.
kisskisshoneyhoney 1 year ago
If you dont recognize Segovia as the grand master of the guitar
Than your no less than mediocre
luisfcoliveira 1 year ago
@luisfcoliveira pff that you been sold the image that Segovia is the greatest guitarist ever shows your ignorance on the matter. i respect Segovia for endorsing the guitar as he did in the USA but he also destroyed and monopolized the guitar (destroyed). he credited him self with many works on behave of many masters for example tarrega, pujol , barrios , ramos , even villalobos etc!!!
how many pieces did Segovia compose?
hes just a modern Esteban with more skill !!!
Lanochetriste1 1 year ago
@Lanochetriste1 fuck, thats some bullshit
wow
congratulations, you make as much sense as Charles Manson
segovia DESTROYED the GUITAR??
Credited works ?? I'm Ignorant?? o.o?
hes the best guitarrist you can know about, the rest we cant prove because they were dead before there were any kinds of technology like this
Maybe theres another Segovia to come, who knows
The only reason why Bream is not as well to me is because he cant play certain compositions properly, his line of expression wont alloud
luisfcoliveira 1 year ago
@Lanochetriste1 WOW, what a fricken music snob! I'm figuring you play and your just a wee bit jealous.
WDemMusic 1 year ago
@luisfcoliveira Don't you mean no more than mediocre? Anyway, what you said is complete rubbish. How can you possibly argue that Segovia has made a better contribution than say Tarrega?
93oracle93 1 year ago
@93oracle93 ofc not
at the same time you cant affirmate that Tarrega had a good rendition on the Guitar as you talk expressiveness, well never know unfortunatelly
Prokofiev for example was not a good piano player, but a genius composer, for the few and rare recordings you can find
Tarrega is probably the largest guitar composer so far
He assured a school that Segovia denied, which i personally think it is as valuable for the instrument as this, or perhaps the identity of the intrument even
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If you don't recognize Segovia as the grand master of the guitar
Than you are no less than mediocre.
luisfcoliveira 1 year ago
I DONT BELIEVE THIS IS SEGOVIA AT ALL!!!
I MIGHT ME WRONG BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE A STUDENT PLAYING.
THIS DOESN'T MATCH SEGOVIA PHRASING.
Lanochetriste1 1 year ago
segovia is a master of the classical guitar, but in no less of a way than hendrix was a master of blues guitar, or kerry king a master of thrash, or jack johnson a master of surf. dont make this more than it is: a great recording. he is by no means king of the instrument, nor a god, nor the best player that ever lived. he helped to popularize a style of the guitar, the spanish classical, through reinventing bach and scarlatti et al. but blind lemon jefferson rocks too, poor technique and all...
TiTANVERSE 1 year ago
he is very good, but i prefer Narciso Yepes...
His version is by far the best...
AndreasItalo 1 year ago
@AndreasItalo not meaning to be condescending, but I think you couldn't be more wrong. Almost every guitar "version" I've heard of this piece simply doesn't sound "right". Segovia translates the music as though he wrote it himself. Absolutely beautiful. Yepes is a great player, but not near as in-touch with the music as Segovia. This is exactly how it is supposed to sound
fatboi420x 1 year ago
Little finger-stumps is the greatest ever!
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YouVRay 1 year ago
Don't be sorry because its not a video. Its the music and lovely musical interpretation that count thank you. sergelew
sergelew 1 year ago
abby161919 asked what year Segovia wrote this. It was, of course, not written by Segovia but transcribed from Bach`s original.But the relationship between composer and player ( interpreter ) has always been magical with Segovia especially when I hear him playing Bach. I really feel transported back in time. Similar with Julian Bream , another great transposer and interpreter of ancient music.
TheBobnalyd 1 year ago
of course, cant deny how great this is--but you have to admit, Julian Bream's interpretation is much more fluid and connected. and it has more personality
cancontrl 1 year ago
wich year did segovia wrote this lovely musik?
abby161919 1 year ago
Segovia is special for me because he knows so well how to use the different parts and tones of the guitars. Just listen from 2:01 to 2:10!!!
MASTER!
ChulesRock 1 year ago
it's very beautiful, I have found the whole tabs for this one. I'm learning it now <3
4tt1 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and beautiful
kkingkenny 1 year ago
I always wondered why I always see an old segovia....even in the early 60's he looks old. Now i know why...he is from the 19th century!!! He was born 1894 !!!
Za7a7aZ 1 year ago
sublime!
una gran pieza maestra creada por un gran genio interpretada y revivida por un gran maestro...
acabo de descubrir a este implacable músico y me deja sin palabras señor...
muchas gracias por las 2 partes aimson
5*****
suturas87 1 year ago
great post
antimetalclubRfags2 1 year ago
Sadly, I can't remember the number of this work. Can anyone supply me with the number Bach's publisher put on it?
Lukecash12 1 year ago
It's BWV 1004.
joostwinter 1 year ago
Thank you.
Lukecash12 1 year ago
You tube is a platform for video. The fact that it get's 4 1/2 stars without a video speaks volumes. Any dont be so negative, not everyone can be as clever as you!
MrSillenomis 1 year ago 3
Segovia's first public performance of Bach's Chaconne was probably the most important single event in the development of the guitar as a classical instrument in the C20th, and was an example of his musical integrity which we can all learn from
given the rubbish by beginners that routinely gets five stars here, the current rating for this vid speaks volumes about the lack of discernment amongst YouTube users, and little about the quality of Segovia's playing
utzuckz 1 year ago 65
@utzuckz Well the reason beginners get 5 stars is they personally put considerable effort in to learn what simple pieces they can - and people appreciate that, why would you discourage a beginner? It's simply ludicrous to compare beginners with Segovia.
Saulzar 1 year ago 5
master!
Dreamdek 1 year ago 3
BACH RULES
bluevocals 1 year ago 3
2:24 - ouch!
srpetronivs 1 year ago