3.21.09 Pt 2 Rick Joyner's weekly report on Todd Bentley

[tothepit]

Buddy, God can't get into His church, everyone has there programs for this, programs for that. Meanwhile ppl are afraid to talk bout their probs or fears. All they get is your not being victorious. I have found The Holy Spirit is moving strongly now in home groups. I'm for churches, just not all the professionalism they have. Just looking after their ministries.

[tothepit]

Here are three to be careful of. I have to do deliverance on ppl after getting hands laid on by them.. Test all things, stay close to Jesus. Don't just trust your pastor that he has done his home work when ppl like this come. Be careful not to let ppl just lay hands on you. The danger is mostly in the church now, just test all things.

[TheSoloscriptura]

Why is it that divorce people see the importance of children after divorce and always say, " We want to be friends." What were they when they were married.

Give me a break.

Todd Bentley, MorningStarMinistries owe the public an apology. God help them.

[TheSoloscriptura]

I will pray for these three false teachers. Todd is back in ministry with no signs of change. Do your homework people and continue to pray for the restoration of all these false teachers.

[3thekids]

How sick. God sais He hates divorce, it's breaking the covenant example of Him and the church. God want's Todd to be restored in his marriage, not like oh well i screwed up I guess I'll just go with it now....crazy thinking. That's like I stole a car got cought then my family sais oh Jonnys sorry now can he keep the car!!!!

[findog07]

If there is a restoration happening through Todd, can God not restore his first marriage? We do need to be merciful, show grace and pray for our brothers and sisters. But Todd should not be in ministry healing or speaking from the pulpit. It is possible to fall from grace and lose your annointing, whether he had one or not we will never know. Todd being in ministry will not be the determining factor to Healing and Restoration. JESUS CHRIST is the ONE!

[CHRISJDONOHUE]

John Wimber is helpful here "My brother is my brother and Satan is the enemy." If we pretend to be believers and see no hope of restoration to those leaders who have sinned, how can we pray the Lord's Prayer? King David committed adultery followed by murder yet was forgiven and continued to reign. He was punished. His first baby was born alive and lived for a week before dying despite David's pleas. The second baby of David's adulterous relationship was Solomon who built the temple.

[monsieurpickles]

Bill Johnson needs discernment. He's probably the only christian sitting there.

[JayRdakingdomkid]

The man from galilee also said, "He that has no sin, cast the first stone"...Why are we so fast to come down on our brothers in Christ! The church is the only organization that stabs and seeks to kill our wounded instead of helping. Why?? smh

[FToniS]

I do not believe that someone who sins gravely is "doomed forever" or has "blown it forever". But I believe that there needs to be true repentance, i.e. don't continue with adultery. To the woman caught in adultery, Jesus said: has no-one condemned you? [...] then neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more! So, continuing in adultery, isn't that keeping on sinning?

It's nice to hear Todd Bentley say nice things about his wife, but I don't see any real sorrow.

[Freelygive333]

The church is the great whore, not the Body of Christ...

[gsong123]

Now that Morning Star has an adulterer and adulteress leading the sheep, we should call it what it is! It's nothing more than a mystic whore house!

[oldno74]

Build on truth!!?? These men are so blinded it's not even funny. Healing ministry of Satan maybe. These men are clueless. Could they really be that blinded to think they are doing work for Christ!??

Everyone who follows these men should run away as fast as you can before it's too late!

[MrFresco88]

never give up go down fighting to the end

[cholotara]

wicked servants of the devil

[gsong123]

Excuse me but why would we want to restore a false teacher? Not only is he an adulterer he's a serial liar! Is this what Church leadership is supposed to be? Paul wrote extensively on how the Church was to be run and who was to run it. Joyner is so far away from Gods word that his "church" is blatantly a wide open den of occultism. If you follow him you have chosen to be deceived, repent and turn back to the word of God before you are so blinded you can't turn away!

[AcedMoney777]

I wonder how many people slamming Todd have actually been in Todd's shoes? Does anybody think how many people in the scriptures "fell"? Noah, Cain, Samson, David, Peter etc. quit throwing stones at people. I'm tired of it. Whether you support Him or not, ask yourself: Would you survive the firing squads of stone throwing that people have done to Todd? If your answer is 'no' then turn to the Lord in repentance, like I once had to do when I was throwing stones at him, and be glad hes restoring.

[nicknchrist]

I understand your frustration tayto. I love Todd and his wife. I was highly inspired when reading about how he met SHonnah etc.. and what G O D told him. I was deeply hurt when I saw him fall and how the media then says SEE, all that supernatural it's all fake there is NO godly spirituality and people then are afraid of the things of GOD after and deception crawls in to keep people AWAY from GOD. I feel bad for Shonnah also and dont' understand why he wouldn't repent.

[AmhurstLot2]

Todd Bentley is in a pickle. He's stuck in an adulterous relationship. All this talk of forgiveness sounds like "let's put this all behind us." Our church deserves leaders that aren't stuck in sin this way -- rushing him through a "restoration process" shows this movement for what it is: charismatic leaders without Godly character.

[gsong123]

Keeping Todd Bentley away from the sheep is not self righteous...it is Biblical! Sure he is forgiven if he repents but he is disqualified from leadership in the Church..even a phony one. This is the word of God! If you don't revere Gods word you will fall for anything. Rick Joyner now has a church that has fallen into apostasy because of his disrespect for Gods word. Besides, kicking old ladies in the face is not exactly being an imitator of Christ! This is a no brainier folks!

[nicknchrist]

Gsong, GOD can restore ANYBODY. Look at David, he fell with Bathsheeba, paid a dear price but GOD didn't forsake him as His own or as a leader as David repented, He found grace and forgiveness in GOD. If GOD leads you I would pray FOR him.

[gsong123]

David had a heart for God! TB is a freak! This guy has done irreprable damage to the Church of Jesus Christ! Gods word is what matters and this garbage fly's in the face of Biblical true! show nothing he does with his con artist circus

[DWCox]

Wow, reading some of comments here makes me wonder if any of you have ever been forgiven for your sins! Incredibly sad.

[zinbu]

Self righteous christians are a pain. We are all sinners, no worse or better than Todd Bentley. Todd has got a bonus - he's saved countless people across the world. He'll be rewarded in heaven for that.

[snotster]

Todd Bently saved no one, God saves people not Todd Bently. Is Todd Bentlys Heart regenerated?

[wheresmylife]

Your comment is blasphemous and grotesque. Todd didn't save ANYONE! ONLY Jesus saves. Your language has become like Todd's. He claims that HE has powers to heal, etc., HE has NOTHING! If anyone WAS saved through his false ministry, it was IN SPITE of it and not because of it. It was sheerly God's grace. Todd's teachings (as well as all these men) are straight from the pit of hell because true Christians with discernment can easily show their twistings of scripture. FLEE from them!

[gsong123]

Bible believing Christians need to take a stand against Rick Joyner, Todd Bentley, and Bill Johnson. Pray that God would smash this awful Godless hearsay that they have created to pad their pockets. Todd Bentley is the most disgusting thing that has ever hit the false church and even after all he has done, he still has followers..amazing! No Shame whatsoever, he talks about his wife like it's no big deal! What's wrong with you people, wake up the fires of hell are at your feet!

[MtelH]

I REFUSE!!! I refuse to pray that God would come against a man of HIS! How about instead of praying that God would smash them, how about you pray that God will bless them? Don't be overcome of evil but overcome evil with good!

[gsong123]

I wouldn't pray against a man of his either.I'm talking about these three heretics in the video.

[MtelH]

You go ahead and call them heretics, but is it heresy to have mercy on those who have fallen, and better yet, to allow God to restore that which the locusts have eaten away? I stand for love,and 1 Peter 4:8 says, "Have fervent love for one another, for love covers a multitude of sins!" Let God do His part. Isn't He more than equal to the task? If they are not of God, God will crush them. You may find yourself fighting against God. Acts 5:33-39.

[zinbu]

Why so much anger? Todd has still got 'followers' because he has saved and healed thousands. Yes, thousands. Todd was effective. You narrow minded christians are not effective, you just moan.

[wheresmylife]

You keep talking about narrow-minded and self-righteous Christians but yet your comments are snide and full of venom. Hypocrite. Your comments are blasphemous. Todd can't save OR heal anyone. Only Jesus can save. Todd has NO power of his own. Todd was effective, alright. Effective at deceiving thousands and making them two-fold sons of hell.

[Eric0873]

Dude! Todd Bentley has not done a thing apart from the hand of God. He only has followers because they are deceived. Todd should never be able to minister again. Men who take on the mantle of any of the 5 fold ministry are held to a higher standard! He needs to repent and trust in Jesus rightly!!

[JTEinc]

Three frauds.

[gsong123]

"For the LORD God of Israel says that he hates divorce, For it covers one's garment with violence," says the LORD of hosts. Mal 2:16

TB sinned by committing adultery but the sin that disqualifies him from ministry the most is; his divorce and remarriage.

Think God will bless a ministry headed up by someone who has no respect for his word? If he is allowed a church it will be nothing more than a whorehouse with a cross on top!

[gsong123]

Forgive Todd bentley restore him to his family, then get him out of the Church. According to 1Tim 3:12 he can't even be a deacon because he has to be the husband of one wife. If you love God you love his word. Disregard his word and be deceived! False teachers have no respect for Gods word' that's the mark of a false prophet. Todd Bentley is a done deal not just for his sins but for the damage and shame he has brought to the body of Christ. Will Christians ever wake up and believe the word?

[parousia555]

The husband of one wife is not gender intensive, it is a ref to a church body, not a women....one flesh in Gen and in the NT is ministry application, not flesh/sexual....Paul said "u r my husbandrymen....as speaking to his congregation. Todd obviously is a baby, unlearned in scriptures, and has fallen by the wayside as did William Branham

[gsong123]

HUH? 1Tim 3:12 Let deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

I don't know how you got that? It seems pretty obvious from scripture Paul is speaking of behavior as a witness to those in the Church.

[parousia555]

I take my position from the view that if one is going to over see many churches aka a bishop or ala apostle one has to be able to oversee one church, not to oversee a wife and ur kids, that is absurd. Just like in the business world, if u can oversee one store good, u can do many, we have to be talking apples and apples. Maybe in the case of a deacon its an actual physical wife, but even still if she is an intolerable bitch, what then? Is the man of God suppose to put up with that? Get real

[gsong123]

Okay, that's all I need to know.

[mack2tan]

But with every problem there is a solution it is to rebuke sharply THAT THEY BECOME SOUND IN THE FAITH! In order for that to happen you must rebuke in love that will make them sound.

[theJshowman]

That's a good word Bill!!! Drop your stones you judges, understand we have been given the ministry of Reconciliation not condemnation

[parousia555]

Judgment or decision is not condemnation. To condemn is to give no way out.

[mack2tan]

If I judge you without the love of God that gives you a way out, I'm condemning you. The

Webster's dictionary says condemn means to say that a person or thing is wrong or bad! Jesus didn't come to condemn the world but save those that are lost if someones lost lets save them without condemning them!

[oogabooga2009]

"...and try to cover there own errors." Their?

[mack2tan]

We can't cover up sin only the blood of Jesus can do that! We must remember Christ died for our sins, Christians & sinners. 1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. John was talking to Christians when he wrote that!

[mack2tan]

Love covers a multitude of fault! God sent His son Jesus to die for the sins of everybody.

[shellieida]

Read the Bible !!! Read how God has an order for things, and of the ministers-they are held to an accountability!! The church has to conform to God -not to the World!!!

[marinevetnc]

The woman that babysitted them violated their mothers trust and broke up their family. Now their dad has married this woman. They have to spend time with their dad and this woman. I submit to you that Todd doesnt care about those kids he cared more about satisfying his lust. If he cared about the kids he wouldnt have married this woman. He would have thought about how this would affect them.

[marinevetnc]

So Todd committs adultery and remarries and this is bring the Church to restoration and people are coming out the closet. God giving us this moment . This gave them hope. People are making excuses for Todds sin. Todd go pray for her you are a mighty healer go kick her in the face , tackle her.

[369DuneBunny]

Holy Cow !!! Falsey Mc Falserton Just Hopped on the False Train and rode into Falsetown and is now preaching Falsehood all over the freakin place.

[Ravenlocks72]

Hypocrites.

[tspencley3]

is this a joke? wow

[farsider22]

Grace! Is the only word that comes to mind. I will do the one thing Bill Johnson asked. Pray!!!!!

[samboorse]

The Humility is just not there at ALL, people hearts will feel the compassion of our Lord If His people which are called by his name would humble themselves. I am grieved there was little TRUTH and transparence just continually covering up. We must acknowledge our pride. Everyone of us can and will fall if we do not deal with our heart attitudes, and deny ourselves. As well deal with our weaknesses. The world will know He has come when they see our love one for another.

[joyismyl]

todd be aware of what you are preaching today , cause later on you're going to be judged and naked before the king of King's and he will judge every word you spoke it ........ please get rid of your ugly tattoos ........ i look life the satanic fellow....

[joyismyl]

i mean , it looks like the satanic fellow

[TheSunShinesbyGrace]

@joyismyl Don't tell someone to get rid of their tattoos. Who do you think you are friend? God looks at the heart, which you can't see. "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God." 1 Cor. 4:5

[star993man]

Wow these guys are in bed with Todd the looser

[alyssafaithbaer]

I'm a youth pastor and I'm all about forgiveness. I am also all about the Bible and the Bible is very clear that if a man divorces his wife and marries another woman they both commit adultery. There's no way around it.

[mack2tan]

Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

[parousia555]

Fornication is to have sex with a male prostitute. The english reads funny here and the corresponding logic precludes a different conclusion, by putting away a "wife", but no mention of sex now, is adultery? So this adultery is not about physical contact, but a spiritual application....keeping the wife or the learning ministry away from the presence of God or connection to the "Man" of God which can be either male or female is the spiritual adultery

[unimackpass]

Robert Ricciardelli -

When we questioned staff members, and former staff members about Todd, many used the same words to describe him, Pathological Liar. These lies in the guise of ministry and Todds behind the scenes lifestyle made it difficult for his board and others to discern.

[unimackpass]

Restoring people in their soul is one thing but back to ministry is a total different deal. When are you going to explain your lack of discernment in lakeland? people are going to post that corination service over and over on you tube.

[unimackpass]

These guys are suposed to be the "new apostals and prophets". Not one of the big shots that prayed over todd in front of millions picked up on this problem. no discernment whatsoever. what a joke. they really believe their own press. unbelievable.

[369DuneBunny]

You're totally right. I have a feeling that they are restoring him because if they don't their prophecies over him will be proved false - therefore they would be false prophets. 99.999% accuracy is NOT Jesus. 100% is.

[parousia555]

That is ur test of a prophet? U wouldn't know a demon from an angel

[mack2tan]

1Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. According to scripture NO ONE can know it all or prophesy it all! That means no Prophet can!

[unimackpass]

Ya but baptist had the discernment to see where todd was at and these so called leaders and "New Apostals and Prophets" couldnt see past their own nose. These guys are a joke. Ya have hope to leave your wife and kids so you go into "ministry". Simply unbelievable.

[parousia555]

But u didn't quote the rest of the verse " for then we shall see face to face....to know it all in the sense of becoming a full man of God that answer is yes, and to know anything else depends on what crosses ones path during the course of ones lifetime and then some

[mack2tan]

1Cr 13:12 For NOW we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but THEN shall I know even as also I am known. Then means when we go to HEAVEN if we know it all now we don't need the Holy Spirit or even be here on earth!

[parousia555]

The spirit of the prophets is subject to the prophets, not some pencil dick like u

[GrFuzzy1955]

I used to really respect this guy, but this sin doesn't just need a public restoration, but before that restoration , a VERY PUBLIC REPENTANCE; FROM BOTH TOD B AND HIS WOMAN: Not a wide as neither the divorce nor remarriage was right. Shona can remarry but Tod can't until he deals with his stinking sin.

[mack2tan]

Did God tell you he hasn't dealt with His sin! We are to repent to God not to people!

[parousia555]

What sin? Because someone gets a divorce? What are u ppl all catholics/pagan.....One marriage deal is paganism, not bible....u ppl are illiterate and wrest the scripture to urs and others destruction