Waterloo & City Line (2) - Class 482 (1992)

[dirtydonki]

The London Tube sucks. Nowhere to take a piss.

[sheru7mera7naam007]

@1982FMJ well i'm of pakistani descent but with all due respect it was ur government who called us guys over... so it's not exactly my fault that i was born here lol

[citytransportinfo]

@sheru7mera7naam007.

Everything is in order and how it is supposed to be.

100 + years ago we Brits went around the globe, nowadays Karma sees people from around the planet coming here.

In the process we build a multicultural global village through which we all become stronger, and wiser.

Simon

[Cazkumali]

@citytransportinfo when were these repainted from NSE livery to LU livery

[Cazkumali]

@citytransportinfo I wonder how many 1992TS trains they have on the W&C Line

[EvanC0912]

the train was so slow..

[citytransportinfo]

it retains different colour moquette on the seats inside its trains, the seats still have their armrests and it has CCTV cameras inside its trains.

Also, I think that the trains are 'human driven' - unlike the Central Line where trains are driven by computers.

[ut91]

The Waterloo and City line just looks like the Central line now without its distinctive blue colour, it's lost its identity, alot like the city is serves!

[1982FMJ]

notice how fewer immigrants you see on these old videos of london train stations. there were less asylum seekers back in the good old days of london.

[citytransportinfo]

@1982FMJ at the time we were too busy invading the rest of the planet; its only later that we are getting a taste of what we did to others. Karma in action!

[1982FMJ]

@citytransportinfo i disagree. how many brits actually live in india and pakistan

[citytransportinfo]

@1982FMJ far fewer than there were in the days of the Raj! Anyway, we were canny - we got locals to do as much of our mundane day to day work as possible.

[spartan117ism]

@citytransportinfo They were also known as Bombardier LU 1992TS

[citytransportinfo]

@spartan117ism

the term 1992TS is only correct for 'today'... in BR days they were known as Class 482. This was because whilst they came off the same production line as the Central Line trains the different railway companies gave them different names.

Simon

[frankliu532]

@1982FMJ yeah.. but now i notice that a lot of high position jobs like doctors lawyers are held by different ethnicity they contribute to our economy....+ we went into there country for no reason....

[sheru7mera7naam007]

@frankliu532 true, not to mention the fact that they tore it into two pieces... n e way what's done is done, it's in the past lol

[Yownanymous]

@1982FMJ Not all immigrants are asylum seekers, you idiot. And asylum seekers don't especially come here to "scrounge" like those multi-million-making newspapers - who of course totally have the working man's best interests at heart - would have you believe.

[glitch4465]

3:06-

Tumbs Up

[ocdp27]

Isnt waterloo in France??

[glitch4465]

@ocdp27 Belgium

[rightfredsdead]

lloyds TSB. they take your taxes, and lend them back to you at a huge profit.?? wtf ??

[eltonator]

The Waterloo and City Line was part of British Rail, then Network South East, now TfL

[ANDREWWALLFORD123]

Waterloo & city line is too small for jounrey. History Waterloo & South London railway toward South croydon. But now short of the jounrey between Bank and Waterloo with new trains. That is very interesting, how about future plan the Waterloo & South London line is?

[badboiant29]

What company is the blue ones

[citytransportinfo]

@badboiant29 They are in a special 'Waterloo & City Line' livery and have now been repainted in standard London Underground red / white / blue colours.

Simon

[masteruploader1998]

i live in montreal in canada and i say tht this metro is suckish and montreals one is awsome ..so is tokyo's one

[citytransportinfo]

@masteruploader1998 you are comparing a short line built over 100 years ago with a much larger system which dates from the 1960's.

Obviously you are proud of and have affection for your home city - this is only to be expected, most people are like that. However not everyone goes around making belittling comments on other people's cities and their transports just because they are different.

your name suggests you were born in 1998 & are a child aged 12. If so you've still got lots to learn!

[spartan117ism]

@citytransportinfo are they made form siemens

[minotaur878]

London underground. At least it's useful. We have better freight trains. Yours are tacky.

[glitch4465]

@masteruploader1998 Without the London Underground, your metro may never of exisisted as the concept would of taken years to cath on to anyone else

[unknownperson95]

@masteruploader1998

vlaka, London Underground is the best in the world.

[mrwindytree]

I dont understand why people are complaining about no flash photos on the underground, its so the drivers dont get temp blinded by its obvious. Its just easier to keep the rule to the whole network if near trains or not as people would push the boundaries.

[citytransportinfo]

@mrwindytree

I think you mean that people should not complain about a ban on flashguns at subterranean stations, as its a safety hazard because it can temporarily blind train drivers therefore for reasons of safety the ban makes good sense; plus that the ban should really apply anywhere and everywhere near trains - not only below ground.

If so, then I agree!

Simon

[yaumatei1994]

the escalator ceilings from 0:19 to 0:42 looked much more presentable than in the 1st vid from 1989.

[yaumatei1994]

so i see dat the escalator roof has by then been refurbished and brightend up and with posters on it.

what a contrast from part 1 in 1989 where it was dim and soooo bare.

[daleksec53]

Was That As Fast As a Tey Travelled?

[imyk2k9]

i luv this train and centrel and jublie and district

[EdM021]

THey should paint the outsides of the trains with the line color -- or at least with a single longitudinal color-coded stripe.

[imyk2k9]

lov waterloo

[TheDylanJoyce]

do they do colored lines AND color the train according to the colored line the branch is? MBTA is better in my oppinion. these trains are VERY cool too. i stick with my home train

[citytransportinfo]

@TheDylanJoyce

Yes in Boston you name the various routes after the colours used to represent them on the system map, (eg: green, red, orange, blue, purple, silver) but whilst in London the different lines also use different colours on the system maps, we give them names, eg: Victoria, Central, Bakerloo, Jubilee, etc.

[HMSDaring1]

Nice, why the strange coulors? Like them though!, why are they bring red & white now?

[citytransportinfo]

@HMSDaring1

They were in Network SouthEast livery, but are now in standard LU livery (red / white / blue).

[amiausUSA]

The station at 0:28 reminds me a bit of the Kyiv / Kiev metro, in particular to some point the "Arsenalna" station.

[citytransportinfo]

@amiausUSA I've not been to Kyiv, and know very little about their metro.

[sexygirl1678]

they should go back to this colour

[spartan117ism]

it is also a LU 1992 stock

[TheBrett56]

what type of whistle

[hellooldchap]

Nice to see the changes from your earlier W&C vid.

[sexygirl1678]

i like this livery they should keep it

[sim2lew]

Pity they didn't. I think each train should have a livery respective to the line colour. Would make the tube nicer.

[XxMCR999MCRxX]

@sim2lew but think of the poor Bakerloo, it's unfortunately coloured already xD

[cityraildude]

btw, it's cityraildude. Learn to read user names propperly idiot

[Gazza2]

-propperly

-justn

-Preaty

-herad

-waterloon

Learn to spell properly idiot :P

[cityraildude]

Well, it justn says waterloo only! English & German use the same letters

[cityraildude]

thx

[cityraildude]

Preaty cool but annoying how u keep skipping, I'm from Australia so i never herad of this waterloon place. where is it London england orb germany?

[bronzeonion]

england

[Acetoeagle1]

That in London, I plannig to go to Sydney myself from SF

[mcmotor101]

its waterloo

[cityraildude]

Really? I figured that out Eienstine!!!! How is someone from Australia supposed to know nif waterloo is in England or Germany???????????

[freako1234]

read the description! it says London Underground twice in it.

[southarmaghdave]

well cityrail surely with all the writing on the trains being in english instead of german would that not give it away?

[unknownperson95]

Very good video. Very interesting. I did not know that Network South East ran the line first.

[afkamistan]

OH my.. it's blue. Mysterious, after only seeing red trains.

[SilsdenCougar]

Another good video. Think when BR ordered the 482's, they should have ordered some for the Isle of Wight line, as much as I do like the 483's on the island.

[tramrunner]

London Trains are very unique, nothing can look like them. That's why I like London Trains

[radioianj]

Its nickname is "The Drain"

[daleksec53]

hang on does the waterloo and city line still exist and is the waterloo and city line underground or network rail? plz awnser

[citytransportinfo]

yes it still exists, but since 1st April 1994 (I think thats the correct year) its been adminstered as part of the London Underground.

Prior to that it was part of BR's Southern Region, but with railway privatisation looming it was separated from the mainline railway.

I suppose its receiving new trains which were built as part of a larger batch for an Underground line was a factor in this change of ownership too.

Hope this helps.

Simon

[daleksec53]

yeah thanks but I'm not too sure but i think that the waterloo and city line in now in the proper underground colors and is now called the hamersmith and city line but thanks anyways daleksec53

[lukespencer91]

No its not part of the hammersmith and city Line.

[daleksec53]

na, don't worry i just asumed

[daleksec53]

sorry for taknig any of your time i am doing a survey to see how many people want the waterloo and city line extended anybody can join just replie yes or no thanks loads daleksec53

[citytransportinfo]

extended to where?

and how would it be funded?

Simon

btw, at Bank a walkway to the DLR now blocks would could have been a logical link-up with the Northern City Line to Moorgate, so that the mainline trains which terminate at Platforms 9+10 could have been extended to Bank and Waterloo. Also, back in the 1980's the then new Network SouthEast wanted to add a midway station at Blackfriars... of course it never happened, otherwise it'd have opened by now.

[emperorgrant]

There is a station at Blackfriars, isnt there? One gettig built on the bridge at the moment.

[grahamf19]

pity TFL actually refurbished the livery on the Waterloo and City Line trains, the blue and white was much better than the corporate livery of LUL which is rather rubbish, silly LUL

[mercdriver2009]

I like graffiti on tube trains, do you have footage of graffiti on trains?

[citytransportinfo]

I do NOT like graffiti on trains - and try to avoid it.

I once saw some metro trains in Rome, Italy where there was so much grafitti that it was almost impossible to see where the doors and windows were.

yuck.

I would prefer that artists paint scenes, cityscapes, countryside, seaside, etc. Grafitti is always brutally harsh and makes me think of terrorism, war, and other things which are not at all 'civilised'.

Simon

[caltrain2]

you go man i hate graffiti especially on trains

[citytransportinfo]

further to my other comments, someone who does not have a login on youtube has asked me to ask you the following...

Simon

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if they would like their living room redecorated unannounced

while they were out. Or for that matter have paint thrown over their car/ best

clothes.

[SilsdenCougar]

Idiot

[TRANZEURO]

The waterloo & city line is like the london equivalent of the new york city times square grand central shuttle or probably the other way around since london's subway system is older.

[citytransportinfo]

Thanks - I've never been to NYC so know very little about its transportation system.

Simon

[trimmytrab]

Bet you wouldn't be allowed to flash a camcorder round on the underground or indeed any railway station these days.

The golden age of transport nerds is sadly over

[WrongRoadRailways]

You are allowed if you don't use a flash or tripod.

[citytransportinfo]

Indeed hand held filming without flash is 'tolerated'.

But the W&C is one of teh few places where I can recall seeing signs saying that flshguns are prohibited.

Simon

[RabidRaccoonUK]

If you want to be on a train with stuck up arrogant twats in business suits that look down the ends of their noses at you like your shit on the bottom of their shoe while pushing you aside to get the last seat, there's no finer line to go on in London than the Waterloo & City Line...

[citytransportinfo]

also known as Bankers!

You are of course spot-on with that comment...

btw, despite usually being very wealthy these people are just as liklely to try fiddling their fares as the people at the opposite end of the 'wealth divide' who see articulated buses with their open boarding via any doorway as 'free' buses.

Simon

[RabidRaccoonUK]

Oh, indeed. When I used to live in London, on many evenings when I was leaving my station there was someone being stopped for not having the correct ticket, usually someone in a suit.

[LigisdAodSmg]

what did justin fox say that got his comment removed??? hes like a massive tube supporter

[citytransportinfo]

Sorry, no idea Justin removed the comment - not me.

Simon

[lukespencer91]

does the drivers on the waterloo and city line driver trains on other lines as well ?

[GWRtom]

i don't think so

[hotpoint9534]

Yes they drive the Central Line which uses the same tube stock.

[justinfox955]

Did you know that the train sequences of the film sliding doors were filmed on the Waterloo & City line?

[citytransportinfo]

Thanks - no I did not know that. I am surprised as normally Aldwych or the closed Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross are used for filming.

I've not see that film, so this may explain why I did not know this.

Simon

[wangtong04]

i think ato is rubbish at least the waterloo and city line isent ATO.

[thetrainguy125]

god working on that line must be boring! forwards backwards only stopping @ 2 stations all day long!

[5405easantiago]

why does that only have 2 stations

[citytransportinfo]

History... when built its purpose was to link the mainline railway terminus station at Waterloo with the City of London, so that people who work in the City could use the mainline railway's services and not those of other railway companies.

Simon

[5405easantiago]

oh thats why its got two stations

[blaarp]

It actually passes directly under Blackfriars station and the idea's been kicked around for decades to put a stop there as well. Nothing's ever come of it though.

[wee20ando08]

how is the train blue thout there red lol

[nzseries1]

huh?

[citytransportinfo]

Since I filmed this the trains have been repainted....

Now they are corporate London Underground colours. (red white blue)

S

[kyatisback12]

This video was uploaded on my Birth date :D Great Video! I like it!

[kiteflyer82]

Why do the platform and the train floor are not at the same level? Are there any engineer problems with this?

Thnx

[citytransportinfo]

most stations on most railways here in Britain have platforms and doors which are not level. Its how things were dane when the lines were built.

Simon

Simon

[ButlerHarperBlakey]

Did you know in 1986, BR sold the W & C line to London Underground. For £1! I'm not joking, look on wikipedia!

[james143611]

WOW very good video! sends me a bit emotional, I remember seeing these on the W&C in the NSE livery when LU had it in that livery. I was shocked when they said it will go into LU corporate livery!

[citytransportinfo]

Thanks.

when I filmed this I knew what was about to happen - although it was quite a few years before corporate LU actually made it to these trains.

as with some of my films from Berlin and Essen, I filmed things which I knew would be of historical interest at some later date - although with the German cities I have regrets for not having filmed even more...

Simon

[shiningold321]

This was filmed 4 days after I was born!!

[citytransportinfo]

puts me in my place!

and shows my age :-(

Simon ;-)

[jakethejuj56]

yay! same design as jubilee but blue!

[citytransportinfo]

Actually these trains were built at the same time as the Central line trains, although it seems that some electrical differences (related to different signalling systems) prevent them from working on the Central Line.

However as there is no direct track connection so this does not really matter.

Simon

[Mr6292]

It's exactly the same train as the Central Line one. It runs under manual control as the line signalling is based on original BR spec for the line. The Central Line trains can run in manual or automatic mode, but a simple switch in the driving cab is all it takes to change the mode of operation. At least that's what I think......

[shiningold321]

you mean Central

[Yownanymous]

The Waterloo and City Line is... OPEN

What, were they expecting people to gasp in shock?

[citytransportinfo]

good point - one never quite knows - maybe they were!!!

Simon

[danlfc1983]

Shortest line on the tube

2 stations long lol.

[citytransportinfo]

but neither the shortest or longest distance between stations!

btw, in the early NSE days I recall a suggestion that a station should be added where the line passes near to Blackfriars station. However this did not happen - I assume that no-one could find a way to finance (pay for) this.

Simon

[cameronmac2000]

well if it happens it will only be from highgate to finsbury park they really don't want ally pally beacause they think it would have rubbish reciepts but they are wrong as loads of people would love to go there on the tube

[citytransportinfo]

me, for instance!

Simon

[ashita100]

CLASS 482 is indeed the TOPS classification

[RienkMebius]

Barriers

In Berlin they were removed, only to be put up again at Western stations (for safety reasons apparently). Mr Erich Honecker (originally a Wessie) would have been pleased!

[perrymak2000]

interedting!!thx

[fgh456pc]

Please excuse my ignorance but is class 482 a TOPS Classification.

[citytransportinfo]

I think so, but am not 100% sure.

Simon

[infrared567]

y is network southeast selling off all thire lines

[citytransportinfo]

Network SouthEast has not existed for many years.

At the time of railway privatisation the govt. decided that since this was a tbe line which used trains that are virtually identical to others elsewhere on the London Underground so the line should become part of the London Underground, and not a mainline train operating company.

Simon

[asulca593]

very interesting.

i know next to nothing about the W&C so im hoping i can understand this better. it seems the W&C was built in the time when there were competing railway outfits in London, thus giving rise to overly redundant station building, leading to the many station closures in london today. how is this line still running? it seems there are at least than 3 ways to get to bank from waterloo fairly easily other than this. it would seem more expensive to keep this up.

[citytransportinfo]

there my be several ways to get from Bank to Waterloo but at busy times the crowds are such that they are all needed / all very busy.

In Britain as a whole there has been too much rationlisation on the railways - if the closures of the 1960's had been less the roads would be less busy.

Too late now - in many senses.

Soon all this might be underwater.

[citytransportinfo]

Hello, yes it was built when there were competing railway companies.

But there was very little overly redundant station buildings - not in London.

A lot of station closures in London were because of the 1939 - 1945 war especially in east London, where the bombing saw many people moving away. Some of these lines have since been reopened.

[citytransportinfo]

In north London some station closures were because after the war it was decided not to extend the Northern Line over routes served by steam trains. Buses were used instead - and now the areas are suffering from not having railway services.

[evadiendome]

...but it nearly happened! Electrification of the lines to Alexandra Palace, Edgware via Mill Hill and Finsbury Park was almost complete in 1940; platform lowering for tube stock was even carried out at some stations never to re-open as tube stations (Crouch End being one of them). A link to Finsbury Park from East Finchley could still be made as the line is still pretty much unobstructed; but it is unlikely that this will happen.

[citytransportinfo]

I know about the aborted Ally Pally scheme, and how places such as Muswell Hill now suffer chronic traffic congestion.

When the line was closed it was thought that buses could cope... BIG mistake.

Most of the route is now a parkland walkway and many locals will complain *very*loudly* if an attempt is made to convert it back to railway.

Simon

[evadiendome]

Hi Simon, I agree, it was a mistake to close the line. And what a shame! It was so close to being part of the Northern Line. With this and the proposed extension of the line from Edgware to Bushy Heath, has made the now discarded railways a fascination of 'what could have been'. But now we have Crossrail... Alex

[raakone]

Nice seeing the "then and now" clips, as it where. Interesting how some things have changed.

~Ra'akone