Mikhail Kalashnikov copied this from the MP44. It's obvious, the AK-47 was magically desinged during his recovery from field injury during WWII. It's specifically mentioned that the insides of AK-47 is almost identical to the MP44. The Russians would obviously never admit a copy. Also compare pics of the AK-47 to the MP44. They are virtually the same. Yes, there are improvements on the AK-47, but No this is not a "new" design. Germany is the founder of the assult rifle amongst other.
the whole idea of rating a weapon with service length factored in is quite stupid. the musket was used for 2 centuries, does this mean it is a better weapon than the M4 that's been used for 2 decades? no, i think not
Duh, it was kept secret because Hitler didn't want a program on an Assault Rifle and the people who made it knew his hard headedness was stupid. Not because it was so revolutionary. They decided to make it without him knowing and called it MP44 so Hitler didn't know it was infact a rifle. When Hitler finally found out about the gun and he approved it it became STG44 instead of MP44. StG44' - Sturmgewehr 44' - Assault Rifle 44' ----------------- MP44' - Maschinenpistole 44' - Machine Pistol 44'
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MP / stg r best weapon in 2 war.....german r best teknologie and today again...easy look Veyron Bugatti and......Cryengine 3d engine...yes German ( Einstein) r gznius of ths world......
first assult rifle in the world made by Germany... take that americans.
OK don`t think im Nazi or anything but the German army in WW2 were the most TECHNOLOGICAL army of the war. The thing they fell on was that they performed a 2-front war and that they had a smaller population than USSR and USA
the Gun the russians made a half ass version of and named it the AK-47 (PROVEN in 2008 in an interview with MK himself, who admited that the germans 'helped' with 'his' design..lol) And Ismash armory never opens their archives to the west..gee i wonder why?
some idiot posted that the stg44 isnt the grand daddy of the ak47 guess what retard wrangler the russians picked up stg44s off of german soldiers then kalishnikov made the ak47 ok.
Sad to say, but without Nazi, firearms would'nt just be the same like they are today, i mean seriouly, They made The first Bolt action rifle which is like the standard of every single rifles nowadays, They made the First assault rifle which is the most used type of firearms by every country in the world, and the MG42 , SMGs...gosh
This was base for the (still produced!) G3 assault rifle and later the MP5,which is still popular within special forces all over the world due to its reliability and accuracy.
the russians probably copied the ak from this weapon because those guys came up with the ak barely two years after the end of wwII, while the americans were still using ww II rifles even during the korean war, I am sure that the russians captured some of the stg 44 in the battle did the research and made some changes and came up with the ak 47, both weapons look practically identical, sure the ak was little smaller, but it is an obvious copy
Yes and they distributed these weapons to guerrilla groups and friendly regimes in the Middle East and Africa. In fact the StG-44 is still in use today, by various guerrilla forces, irregular forces. It's important to say that it was produced until the early 50s in Argentina and most probably it got sold on the black market. Today there are semi-automatic versions being manufactured in Germany.
The Idea is that these semi-automatic versions are even better suited for guerrilla forces then the automatic originals because you fire less rounds and you can fire them more accurately and the weapon lasts longer. Ironically military rarely use them in full auto mode, maybe just when they have to provide cover fire bu you can still provide cover fire for someone in semi-auto mode just as effectively, you just push the trigger immediately after the shots have stopped.
2,133fps muzzle velocity, it must have the problem of alot of bullet drop over distance, like the AK. Since the casing doesnt house enough powder to propel it effectively.
Germany had the best engineers/researchers. What made germany loose ww2 was hitler himself. He was an idiot of a leader. Rejecting jet fighters and other technologies! And only mass producing the advanced tiger tank instead of lighter tanks like the russians did.
@sheenydonut Just a little correction. 7.92 = .31 calibre, .338 is referred to as 8.6mm or 8.58 to be exact. The Russian 7.62 is not classified as the .308. Russian cartridge of the time was either 7.62x54mm, 7.62x25mm, and 7.62x39mm. The Russians didnt use the .308 winchester, because its an American cartridge aka 7.62NATO or 7.62x51mm
Alright Germans or Russians for having the title of having the first assult rifle? I know kalashnikov admitted to copying or getting ideas forthe design for the ak so I'm guessing the ak because it as been mass produced and still being made...
@USMCsemperfi85 Yes, but theoretically, its not the the first assault rifle. The STG44 is, it was first produced years before the AK47. If Germany had more time to perfect their design, it would have probably been better than an AK47.
STG 44 first designed in 1942 in service a year later thats not bad even by todays standards this was, in truth, a revolutionary weapon developed by a Germany that was facing defeat. The Red Army did not officaily take the AK 47 until 1949 so they had years of testing compared to months like the Germans.
Hint in the name the as it is know the AK 47 was still in the design phase in 1943 to 1946 some where made in 1946 and called the AK 46 further developed and produced in 1947 and called guess what the AK 47 do I need to go on about when the AK 74 was produced.
Soviets had a unique requirement that weapon has to operate under extreme condition (mud, sand , water) . That made Kalashnikov unique among other assault rifles. Soviets waited a few years till mass producing?
Bullshit, this is only random effect of their bad machines, the could only produce with high tolerances ;D
umm no not really STG 44 was not that good a rifle, a Kalashnikov beats it in everything, bigger cartridge, range, reliability, easiness of training everything period. Im not a supporter of the AK but that is simply fact, M16 BEASTS BOTH WHAT NOW
@esh325 of course it was the most advanced assault rifle of WW2 it was the ONLY assault rifle of WW2. I said the AK was better, which it is. It could only reach like 400 yards and had only about 5-900 rounds a minute i cant remember. You are right though, the M14, the closest thing they had AFTER the war before the 16 was horribly uncontrollable I would rather have a STG everytime, unless I could have an AK.
@G11EM2 Yes, we could have. The reason we didn't adopt the .276 was because we had millions of rounds of 30/06 from WW1, and it was the height of the great depression.
@CapSlapAHoe AK47 was made 3 years after the STG44, which was made in 1944. I never saidM16 or the AK was in world war 2, i said they were better. you are the retard I didnt even mention a date at all. learn to read. and typically, 1944 is considered part of WW2.
Insides (meckanics) of the AK47 are very different from the STG 44. Also is Kalashnikov was just one of the 10 models available to the Soviets since 1944. Sudaev, Bukin, Tokarvev etc. Quality wise the difference between Kalashnikov and STG 44 is like between Lexus Volkswagen bug.
Why not. Never hearts to look at something else even if your product is as good or better.
Sudaev designed his assault rifle during 1943-44 but he died in 1945 from the heart attack. Kalashnikov used many of Sudaev's ideas and perfected them. If Sudaev lived longer we would never heard about Kalashnikov. Instead of AK 47 we would have AS 44.
AK-47 was not the first soviet design. (Just the most famous one) The first Soviet design was AS-44 designed by the Sudaev during the 1943-44. At the same time they already had Bulkin -44, Tokarev-44 and Dementiev 46.
Soviets had a unique requirement that weapon has to operate under extreme condition (mud, sand , water) . That made Kalashnikov unique among other assault rifles. Soviets waited a few years till mass producing
My only point was that Soviet designs (including Kalashnikov) were not copies of the German designs, they had enough of their own during and after ww2. Some of which were better then German designs.
Mikhail Kalashnikov would disagree (in fact he gets pissed off when people say that about the AK-47), besides they may look the same, but the interior is completely different...just like how the HK-416 is internally different from the M16
@helix4811 But it is still a fact, that the sturmgewehr-44 is the fother of the AK. And it is proven. Kalashnikov removed and changed part of internal mechanisms, to make it more easyer to be manufactured. But there are also people that could dissagree about what weapon is better Ak or STG. I like STG. German quality, reilable, most of the best weapons at all are german :).
dude you have no idea...the STG isn't accurate, it has a bigger bullet which makes the recoil huge, and finally the AK47 only looks like it, but the internals are completely different, they don't even remotely resemble each other...i don't know where you got your info from, nothing you say has been proven, and i haven't heard anyone say the STG is better than the AK47, why? because the AK47 is a more advanced platform precisely 3 years more advanced...
@helix4811 I haven't fired the STG44, but haven't heard that it's inaccurate. The diameter of the bullet doesn't determine recoil. The 7.62x39 of the AK-47 and 7.92x33 are both roughly 124gr bullets, but the 7.92x33 pushes out a bullet nearly 250 FPS slower so the STG44 should have less recoil. You are right that the AK-47 is advanced and refined design.
actually its the grams that determine the accuracy, its the shape of the bullets...
lets take the Tac 50 for example, the Canadian rounds for that gun are the same size, but are less aerodynamics than the American counterpart...and the bullet does help determine the recoil, that's actually why the Americans prefer a smaller round than a larger round...
@helix4811 Re read what I said. Accuracy is determined by many factors. The diameter of the bullet doesn't determine the recoil, but how heavy or light the bullet is can determine the recoil.
@helix4811 firing rate is something entirely different. Speed and how heavy the bullet is determines the recoil of a round. The 5.56x45 of the M4 is a much faster round then the 7.62x39, but fires a small 62 GR bullet versus 124 GR bullet, so the M4 will recoil less.
and with the AK being updated every 3-5 years, the ak is far superior. in fact, next year Russia is launching the 200 series for the gun, which will be the most advanced version of the gun to date...
not surprising, most guns had similar or the same gas system during that time. So it shouldn't surprise you that the AK has a similar gas system as the STG. Now i wouldn't say it is the same though, simply because the STG has a much tighter gas pipe that leads to the bolt carrier. The AK has a much looser one, which is why the AK is known to be near unjam-able and indestructible.
@helix4811 most gun didn't have the same gas system because the STG was the first of its kind. Also, they are the same gas systems. "AKM's are all around better, only because it was reverse engineered from the STG. Kalashnikov made a lot of changes but don't let him fool you, there was nothing too original about the AK-47. The AR-15 copied parts of the STG also. The Germans were thinking so far ahead of everyone else, we adopted most of their ww2 technology"- vids4chrome
not necessarily, many AK's were made with an open bolt system, origninally this was rejected by the Soviets (don't know why) and he was forced to change it 4 times...
the STG went through 3 phases, first one being the STG-43 which had an closed bolt design, the STG44 changed that to open bolt and the STG45 kept the same open bolt design.
sturmgewehr 44 is the FIRST assault rifle and MY FAVORITE(from day of defeat source)...if the germans had developed this piece of art earlier and the productions were high..they sure had won the war...and the AK has the basics of STG 44...only design is different
@manupainkiller yea i hate how russians say the AK47 was the first assault rifle and that they invented the assault rifle when all they did was just steal an STG44 and simplify it.
@lubi125 you're probably right,the Soviets would overrunned them...but if the rifle would be developed earlier,it would still change some battles...russians ducked themselfs in the ruins of Stalingrad,and Germany wasn't to prepare to a "cat and mouse" battle,also,was a very cold day and the german "steel" couldn't start...so germany fought with the "reserves"...from that day...they started to lose everything
@lubi125 in my opinion,hitler was a fool because he fought in 3 fronts (eastern front,england,nord africa) and he also declared war to USA,pfff...he should fight one enemy at a time,maybe then he had a chance.
germans are great nation,did many things at that time,search on wikipedia "nazi superweapons",you will be stunned,i assure you ! :D
@littlefishkid The fought hitler, and after the americans took advance of all our technology, werner braun developed your a-bomb and so on. And look what bush did, he messed the world more up than hitlver ever could do. stupid americans.
@littlefishkid are you nuts? the nazis were had the most technologically advanced weapons in ww2! of course they eventually were overwhelmed, but it had to take the whole world to do so. just against one country.
@littlefishkid The reason why the Russian won was because they got lucky, just like how they defeated Napolean of France. The winter in Russia is freezing balls and pretty much made the German retreat. Also, the Germans got ambushed by them, although the major disadvantage of USSR is that there were not many good generals since Stalin killed them, and the limited weapons Russia has.
I don't support the Nazis but I will give them this the Germans have a nack for finding new tech. Like the first jet bomber, the blitz, the me-262, first jet fighter, and this weapon the stg-43.
Plus during ww1 they made the first bomber so don't deny that they didn't have good tech because you would be telling a huge ass lie
this weapon is the predecessor of the modern automatic rifles an the prodecessor of the best weapon in the world, the Ak 47. the magazine is nearly the same and the accuracy was made faster.
The magazines look the same because the 7.62x39 tapers which requires the magazines to be curved, so that isn't really a valid point. The AK-47 and STG44 share little in common internally other then they have the same gas operation. The Russians copied the idea of the
Realize what? That most of it was overpriced, under performing crap? That they pretended that their work arounds were some kind of high technology advance?
crap? without them we wouldn't have made it to the moon! without them we wouldn't have jet aircraft. Without them we wouldn't have Night Vision and as you can see from this video without them we wouldn't have assault rifles. Without them the modern m16 and ak47 never would have been developed. Its time to face the facts that the Nazi had outstanding technology.
You should enlighten yourself & read a book called "American Raiders" written by Wolfgang Samuel.
The 1st operational jet aircraft was the ME 262 but the 1st jet aircraft flew in 1939. It was built by Heinkel.
There was a US aircraft company, either Northrop or Lockheed, where the scientists (after German capitulation) tried to & learned German in 2 weeks in order to grasp the theories and mindset used to develop the planes of the Luftwaffe.
It was interesting how the Messerschmidt company got contracts when Heinkel was often more advanced. Everything in Germany was done through political influence. That led to many practical ideas being left on the drawing board, while monsters like the ever bigger Tigers, Elephants etc. were ignored. With shortages of aluminium, they wasted aluminum on canteens for their soldiers. And Northrop had a clever fellow, named Von Karman who the Germans tried to lure back to Germany.
Yes Sir. You are correct on that note. Heinkel didn't get the contracts (but Messerschmitt did). The "political influence" was a flaw from a result of German political structure my friend.
The German political structure was almost identical to Capitalism. It was like a pseudo-form of Capitalism used to appease the big wigs of business who scoffed at Communism.
It was supposed to create positive competition (like in the US) but the politics & corrupt human diplomacy undermined the system.
German rocketeers built on the pioneering work of Goddard. The AK-47 is a gas operated turnbolt, like the M-1 Garand which preceeded it by 10 years. The G-36 is the first gas operated turnbolt fielded by the Germans, 50 years after the M-1.
German rocketeers didn't exactly build on the work of Goddard but the work of some 1000 years of rocketry which I believe 1st came out of China (w/ their glorious invention called "gunpowder").
The USA, in the case of Charles Kettering & Nikola Tesla, have supressed it's best scientists, those revolutionary in the field of science, & un-endingly promoted a watered-down science since the birth of the country. The Nazis pushed research into overdrive without ideological limitations.
Well you get the Congreves rocket and Hale rockets too.
Kettering was head of GM's research and development group, and GMs largest stock holder during WWII. I don't think he felt supressed. Telsa was vice president of American institute of Electrical Engineering, not oppressed either. Nazis had their ideological limitations, something about being offended by that Jewish Physics, not to mention their racist nonsense, which sent many good men to the US where they were put to good use.
Kettering's advances of technology weren't fully transferred to the mainstream & used in public application. The same for Tesla. The advanced research of these two brilliant men was kept under the rug for financial interests of capitalism. It's profitable to mass produce in a "capital" economy. Now maybe Kettering decided to say fuck the tech and fatten his wallet or maybe "they" (the powers that be) positioned him there to feed his need for greed.
the godfather of ALL modern day assault rifles.
dagofromchicago 6 days ago
Mikhail Kalashnikov copied this from the MP44. It's obvious, the AK-47 was magically desinged during his recovery from field injury during WWII. It's specifically mentioned that the insides of AK-47 is almost identical to the MP44. The Russians would obviously never admit a copy. Also compare pics of the AK-47 to the MP44. They are virtually the same. Yes, there are improvements on the AK-47, but No this is not a "new" design. Germany is the founder of the assult rifle amongst other.
SpartanMFP 1 month ago
@SpartanMFP Have you looked at how each rifle works? there not the same...similar but not the same.
Soldat177 1 week ago
9th place?? WTF!!!
HeRoSeNsEi 4 months ago
It was in service longer than 2 years.. They only mass produced it for two years idiots... Sigh TV..
MyGamer1 4 months ago
Bugatti is not french ..just foundateur was live in france but there r Italian ..look theyr name.and now buy by german wolvagen..sry for fault
32120Dns 7 months ago
the whole idea of rating a weapon with service length factored in is quite stupid. the musket was used for 2 centuries, does this mean it is a better weapon than the M4 that's been used for 2 decades? no, i think not
MrWarlord396 8 months ago
Duh, it was kept secret because Hitler didn't want a program on an Assault Rifle and the people who made it knew his hard headedness was stupid. Not because it was so revolutionary. They decided to make it without him knowing and called it MP44 so Hitler didn't know it was infact a rifle. When Hitler finally found out about the gun and he approved it it became STG44 instead of MP44. StG44' - Sturmgewehr 44' - Assault Rifle 44' ----------------- MP44' - Maschinenpistole 44' - Machine Pistol 44'
BryanW1988 8 months ago
M1 Garand + STG-44 = AK-47
Sigurjonsig 9 months ago
Man the Narrator's Voice is Boss
h4mmers3x 9 months ago
At Agivatedkilla im just saying u dond have to be a jerk about it JezzE
ChAd2059 10 months ago
GERMAN WEAPONS BEST WEAPONS
makedeido 10 months ago
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32120Dns 1 year ago
MP / stg r best weapon in 2 war.....german r best teknologie and today again...easy look Veyron Bugatti and......Cryengine 3d engine...yes German ( Einstein) r gznius of ths world......
32120Dns 1 year ago
@32120Dns English please?
wojak100 1 year ago
@32120Dns you're idiot Veyron is french.
apha87 11 months ago
This is why in cod waw it is placed under rifles :P
ChAd2059 1 year ago
@ChAd2059 Shut the fuck up bitch nobody gives a fuck about a game you fucking nerd.
Go choke on a spike and die.
AgrivatedKillah 10 months ago
To me it looks like a giant MP5
PresidentLucario 1 year ago
@ChowAtTheY
well all the guns back then had similar design layouts and inner workings, who knows who's right.
helix4811 1 year ago
This rifle kickt russian ass at eastern front, thats the only reason they build the ak-47
yourtubedeejay 1 year ago
first assult rifle in the world made by Germany... take that americans.
OK don`t think im Nazi or anything but the German army in WW2 were the most TECHNOLOGICAL army of the war. The thing they fell on was that they performed a 2-front war and that they had a smaller population than USSR and USA
kn1b1s95 1 year ago 3
Now I can see where the AK-47 comes. They got it from the nazis.
MrMpierre 1 year ago 3
my favorite assault rifle , join my page youtubers if your a fan of the StG44
MP44StG44Page 1 year ago
i yust love the sturmwehehr!!! :D awesome looks!!!
bulletinyurass 1 year ago
the Gun the russians made a half ass version of and named it the AK-47 (PROVEN in 2008 in an interview with MK himself, who admited that the germans 'helped' with 'his' design..lol) And Ismash armory never opens their archives to the west..gee i wonder why?
DaytonaRoadster 1 year ago
hahaha germany owns
Raoul1311 1 year ago
best guns worldwide (for me):
1. MG-42
2. STG 44
3. K98
4. MP5
5. etc...
BulletK1ss 1 year ago 3
peace for the world without stupid nazi - weapons!!
gurkenhamster 1 year ago
some idiot posted that the stg44 isnt the grand daddy of the ak47 guess what retard wrangler the russians picked up stg44s off of german soldiers then kalishnikov made the ak47 ok.
990bobbob 1 year ago
wow THIS IS a video .. amazing! ..
FiveMagic5 1 year ago
german ppl are the best making weapons!
remanuelmr 1 year ago
@remanuelmr thats true bro
Eikku1 1 year ago
stürmgewehr xDD
sturmgewehr heißt das! :D
ndrunkenTeddy 1 year ago
Sad to say, but without Nazi, firearms would'nt just be the same like they are today, i mean seriouly, They made The first Bolt action rifle which is like the standard of every single rifles nowadays, They made the First assault rifle which is the most used type of firearms by every country in the world, and the MG42 , SMGs...gosh
hoang1428 1 year ago
@hoang1428 TRUE!
Eikku1 1 year ago
I bet Hitler was a badass Soldier too!!!
psnTurok35 1 year ago
This was base for the (still produced!) G3 assault rifle and later the MP5,which is still popular within special forces all over the world due to its reliability and accuracy.
f14tomcatfreak 1 year ago
@f14tomcatfreak Kind of the base. The STG45 was really what influenced the G3.
esh325 1 year ago
the russians probably copied the ak from this weapon because those guys came up with the ak barely two years after the end of wwII, while the americans were still using ww II rifles even during the korean war, I am sure that the russians captured some of the stg 44 in the battle did the research and made some changes and came up with the ak 47, both weapons look practically identical, sure the ak was little smaller, but it is an obvious copy
eastern2western 1 year ago
@eastern2western Obviously they were inspired by it. It is not by any means a copy of the STG44 though.
esh325 1 year ago
@eastern2western
Yes and they distributed these weapons to guerrilla groups and friendly regimes in the Middle East and Africa. In fact the StG-44 is still in use today, by various guerrilla forces, irregular forces. It's important to say that it was produced until the early 50s in Argentina and most probably it got sold on the black market. Today there are semi-automatic versions being manufactured in Germany.
zaco21 1 year ago
The Idea is that these semi-automatic versions are even better suited for guerrilla forces then the automatic originals because you fire less rounds and you can fire them more accurately and the weapon lasts longer. Ironically military rarely use them in full auto mode, maybe just when they have to provide cover fire bu you can still provide cover fire for someone in semi-auto mode just as effectively, you just push the trigger immediately after the shots have stopped.
zaco21 1 year ago
Why do people always say this rifle is good? The round it fired had horrible ballistics compared to the 30/06 the M1 Garand had.
MrRogueSpear 1 year ago
@MrRogueSpear Thats because the 30/06 is a rifle round. obviously it is going to be better then an intermediate round.
1FutureMarine1 1 year ago
2,133fps muzzle velocity, it must have the problem of alot of bullet drop over distance, like the AK. Since the casing doesnt house enough powder to propel it effectively.
TaZ101SAGA 1 year ago
All hail the first true AR in existence.
WonkyTonkBotty 1 year ago
the old ak 47
MrYoungblood110 1 year ago
Dude, I love how almost every German gun looks futuristic!
For example: STG-44, MP40, Luger P08, pretty much everything German!
guitarwizard5000 1 year ago
Germany had the best engineers/researchers. What made germany loose ww2 was hitler himself. He was an idiot of a leader. Rejecting jet fighters and other technologies! And only mass producing the advanced tiger tank instead of lighter tanks like the russians did.
jambalolk 1 year ago
It's a modern assault weapon.
Accuracy wise, in WW2 it killed 64 people in total within the 0-300 metre radius.
The German 7.92x33 (.338) clearly has a slightly heavier projectile with a smaller cartridge then the Russian intermediate 7.62 (.308)
If somone can kill a man with a single shot at 300 metres with an stg-44, somone should be able to make that same shot at 350 metres with an Ak-47.
It's basic logic, I'd still hate to be on the receiving end of any of these weapons.
-.-
sheenydonut 1 year ago
@sheenydonut Just a little correction. 7.92 = .31 calibre, .338 is referred to as 8.6mm or 8.58 to be exact. The Russian 7.62 is not classified as the .308. Russian cartridge of the time was either 7.62x54mm, 7.62x25mm, and 7.62x39mm. The Russians didnt use the .308 winchester, because its an American cartridge aka 7.62NATO or 7.62x51mm
TaZ101SAGA 1 year ago
dumbass Hitler. lol this weapon is badass.
DDI0N 1 year ago
Alright Germans or Russians for having the title of having the first assult rifle? I know kalashnikov admitted to copying or getting ideas forthe design for the ak so I'm guessing the ak because it as been mass produced and still being made...
USMCsemperfi85 1 year ago
@USMCsemperfi85 Yes, but theoretically, its not the the first assault rifle. The STG44 is, it was first produced years before the AK47. If Germany had more time to perfect their design, it would have probably been better than an AK47.
TaZ101SAGA 1 year ago
@USMCsemperfi85 the russians made the 1st ar in wwi the fedrov avotmat
bargunner18 4 months ago
STG 44 first designed in 1942 in service a year later thats not bad even by todays standards this was, in truth, a revolutionary weapon developed by a Germany that was facing defeat. The Red Army did not officaily take the AK 47 until 1949 so they had years of testing compared to months like the Germans.
gordopark13 1 year ago
Hint in the name the as it is know the AK 47 was still in the design phase in 1943 to 1946 some where made in 1946 and called the AK 46 further developed and produced in 1947 and called guess what the AK 47 do I need to go on about when the AK 74 was produced.
gordopark13 1 year ago
no the AK-47 is like a Russian STG
motlencore89 1 year ago
ak 47 came from stg 44 & rpg-7 came from panzerfaust
Razcal87 1 year ago 3
Best NAZI-weapon is the MG 42, still lives on as the MG3
ftucyk 1 year ago
The best german assault gun I think.
kakas005 1 year ago
Das absolut geilste Sturmgewehr von Allen !! I have it forever of my right schoulder tattowiered. I love this weapon. Gruß Jule
BoehseJule88 1 year ago
If the 7.92x33 can smoke a person with one shot at 300 metres, their's no reason the 7.62x39 from an Ak-47 can't do even better.
sheenydonut 1 year ago
name of the song?
Hiposinel 1 year ago
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Soviets had a unique requirement that weapon has to operate under extreme condition (mud, sand , water) . That made Kalashnikov unique among other assault rifles. Soviets waited a few years till mass producing?
Bullshit, this is only random effect of their bad machines, the could only produce with high tolerances ;D
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Quality wise the difference between Kalashnikov and STG 44 is like between Lexus Volkswagen bug.?
Lexus is bullshit! :D
spamjam2009 1 year ago
umm no not really STG 44 was not that good a rifle, a Kalashnikov beats it in everything, bigger cartridge, range, reliability, easiness of training everything period. Im not a supporter of the AK but that is simply fact, M16 BEASTS BOTH WHAT NOW
IKEELYOUNOW 1 year ago
@IKEELYOUNOW, the STG44 was the most advanced rifle of WW2. The United States couldin't even produce something nearly as good until 1963.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 of course it was the most advanced assault rifle of WW2 it was the ONLY assault rifle of WW2. I said the AK was better, which it is. It could only reach like 400 yards and had only about 5-900 rounds a minute i cant remember. You are right though, the M14, the closest thing they had AFTER the war before the 16 was horribly uncontrollable I would rather have a STG everytime, unless I could have an AK.
IKEELYOUNOW 1 year ago
@IKEELYOUNOW, I only said rifle, not assault.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 QUIET YOU
IKEELYOUNOW 1 year ago
@esh325 We COULD produce better when we started the m1 in .276 pederson. We didn't until 1963.
G11EM2 1 year ago
@G11EM2 Yes, we could have. The reason we didn't adopt the .276 was because we had millions of rounds of 30/06 from WW1, and it was the height of the great depression.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 Exactly
G11EM2 1 year ago
@IKEELYOUNOW Fucking idiot, neither were around at the time.
CapSlapAHoe 1 year ago
@CapSlapAHoe AK47 was made 3 years after the STG44, which was made in 1944. I never saidM16 or the AK was in world war 2, i said they were better. you are the retard I didnt even mention a date at all. learn to read. and typically, 1944 is considered part of WW2.
IKEELYOUNOW 1 year ago
Hands down to the Germans. They invent and make some pretty good shit.
smokndarasta 1 year ago
@smokndarasta thanks
gabagandalf20 1 year ago
no you are not right, they look very much the same, but on the inside they are very different.
SSofisiren 2 years ago
@prepper1987,because the russian have used stg44 as a template for their ak 47 so is that the little brother of the stg44
thekingsquirrel 2 years ago
They didn't use anything as a template.
mugofdoom 2 years ago
The M16 and every other modern assault rifle would be the little brother of the
STG44 too. The AK-47 and STG44 have little in common internally. The only thing that's the same about them is that they are both assault rifles.
esh325 2 years ago
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Why the fuck do I now have -4 thumbs down????
VexonCAEU 2 years ago
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It's looks like an AK, didn't the Russians make this?
VexonCAEU 2 years ago
@VexonCAEU It influenced the AK.
southparkfan2717 2 years ago
Ok, thanks...Why the fuck do I have a thumbs down for asking a question???
VexonCAEU 2 years ago
the ak 47 is the little brother of the stg44
stg44 rules
ak47 shit
thekingsquirrel 2 years ago
@thekingsquirrel Where do you know this? From playing call of duty? Fucking retard..
prepper1987 2 years ago
the ak is the stg 44 ^^
Tobiascc 2 years ago
k...
VexonCAEU 2 years ago
uh...what? No
JJAB91 2 years ago
true
only the caliber was
changed ^^
Tobiascc 2 years ago
You're completly incorrect.
esh325 2 years ago
no !
The AK47 is based on the STG 44. After the end of war, russia gets over 10.000 thousends sites of Technical Data sheets!!
and now you compare these 2 guns and see if theres a optical difference and technical ;)
!
cyclecrafttom 2 years ago
The AK-47 is based on the STG44 just as much as the M16 is or any other assault rifle.
esh325 2 years ago
All of them are based on the Russian "Fedorov avtomat" from the ww1
tosterlleon 2 years ago
Insides (meckanics) of the AK47 are very different from the STG 44. Also is Kalashnikov was just one of the 10 models available to the Soviets since 1944. Sudaev, Bukin, Tokarvev etc. Quality wise the difference between Kalashnikov and STG 44 is like between Lexus Volkswagen bug.
tosterlleon 2 years ago
def. lol!
then tell me whey the absolutely wanted the data sheets after the end of ww2 ???
cyclecrafttom 2 years ago
Why not. Never hearts to look at something else even if your product is as good or better.
Sudaev designed his assault rifle during 1943-44 but he died in 1945 from the heart attack. Kalashnikov used many of Sudaev's ideas and perfected them. If Sudaev lived longer we would never heard about Kalashnikov. Instead of AK 47 we would have AS 44.
tosterlleon 2 years ago
which gun was build earlier?
STG44 or AK47 ?
STG44 started 1943
AK47 started 1947.
In my opinion the STG44 is one of THE!! gun milestones. Absolutely amazing gun in those old days!!
these dates are facts and true.
cyclecrafttom 2 years ago 2
AK-47 was not the first soviet design. (Just the most famous one) The first Soviet design was AS-44 designed by the Sudaev during the 1943-44. At the same time they already had Bulkin -44, Tokarev-44 and Dementiev 46.
Soviets had a unique requirement that weapon has to operate under extreme condition (mud, sand , water) . That made Kalashnikov unique among other assault rifles. Soviets waited a few years till mass producing
tosterlleon 2 years ago
BTW u want something really unique?
Look at Korobov TKB-408 assault gun issued in 1945 and kept secret for the Soviet black ops only.
This idea did not hit the world till 80's
tosterlleon 2 years ago
the tkb looks nice.
but b2t ^^ the vid. is about stg44 :P
cyclecrafttom 2 years ago
My only point was that Soviet designs (including Kalashnikov) were not copies of the German designs, they had enough of their own during and after ww2. Some of which were better then German designs.
tosterlleon 2 years ago
@cyclecrafttom
AK 47 was started in 1943 as well.
AK 47 was preceded by other Russian assault rifles like, AS -44, AB-45, AD-45 all of which were superior to STG-44
yahooabuser 1 year ago
LOL im watching this show right now. I saw this part like 15 minutes ago
sqaudseven 2 years ago
nazi proud
ilmionomeemaolo 2 years ago
lol.its like a german ak-47.
spyderweb360 2 years ago 5
@spyderweb360 there is no such thing as a ak 47 from germany it was made in russia and mp44 was made first
theassasin789 2 years ago
There is actually. The East German's made quite a few AK rifles.
esh325 2 years ago
the ak-47 took many good features from this weapon because it was so good. It makes sense
sqaudseven 2 years ago
@spyderweb360 they copied the design from the sturmgewehr
eric9287 1 year ago 19
@eric9287 They didn't copy the design. The sturmgewehr functions differently then the AK-47. It's a completely different design.
ThLautenbag 1 year ago
@ThLautenbag yes they did. they reworked it - STG is, IS the fother of AK.
HauptmannTod 1 year ago
@eric9287
Mikhail Kalashnikov would disagree (in fact he gets pissed off when people say that about the AK-47), besides they may look the same, but the interior is completely different...just like how the HK-416 is internally different from the M16
helix4811 1 year ago 18
@helix4811 But it is still a fact, that the sturmgewehr-44 is the fother of the AK. And it is proven. Kalashnikov removed and changed part of internal mechanisms, to make it more easyer to be manufactured. But there are also people that could dissagree about what weapon is better Ak or STG. I like STG. German quality, reilable, most of the best weapons at all are german :).
HauptmannTod 1 year ago
@HauptmannTod
dude you have no idea...the STG isn't accurate, it has a bigger bullet which makes the recoil huge, and finally the AK47 only looks like it, but the internals are completely different, they don't even remotely resemble each other...i don't know where you got your info from, nothing you say has been proven, and i haven't heard anyone say the STG is better than the AK47, why? because the AK47 is a more advanced platform precisely 3 years more advanced...
helix4811 1 year ago
@helix4811 I haven't fired the STG44, but haven't heard that it's inaccurate. The diameter of the bullet doesn't determine recoil. The 7.62x39 of the AK-47 and 7.92x33 are both roughly 124gr bullets, but the 7.92x33 pushes out a bullet nearly 250 FPS slower so the STG44 should have less recoil. You are right that the AK-47 is advanced and refined design.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325
actually its the grams that determine the accuracy, its the shape of the bullets...
lets take the Tac 50 for example, the Canadian rounds for that gun are the same size, but are less aerodynamics than the American counterpart...and the bullet does help determine the recoil, that's actually why the Americans prefer a smaller round than a larger round...
helix4811 1 year ago
@helix4811 Re read what I said. Accuracy is determined by many factors. The diameter of the bullet doesn't determine the recoil, but how heavy or light the bullet is can determine the recoil.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325
speed doesn't determine recoil, the M4 has a higher fire rate than the AK but has less recoil...
helix4811 1 year ago
@helix4811 firing rate is something entirely different. Speed and how heavy the bullet is determines the recoil of a round. The 5.56x45 of the M4 is a much faster round then the 7.62x39, but fires a small 62 GR bullet versus 124 GR bullet, so the M4 will recoil less.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325
but doesn't that contradict your previous statement?
helix4811 1 year ago
@helix4811 no
esh325 1 year ago
@HauptmannTod
and with the AK being updated every 3-5 years, the ak is far superior. in fact, next year Russia is launching the 200 series for the gun, which will be the most advanced version of the gun to date...
helix4811 1 year ago
@helix4811 the FAL is however copied from STG
drglibrl 1 year ago
@drglibrl
that i don't know about, i never really looked into the fal much.
helix4811 1 year ago
@helix4811 well, not completely different. They both have the same gas system.
a2redneck 9 months ago
@a2redneck
the FAL and STG? or the AK and STG?
helix4811 9 months ago
@helix4811 sorry, the AK has the same gas system as the STG
a2redneck 9 months ago
@a2redneck
not surprising, most guns had similar or the same gas system during that time. So it shouldn't surprise you that the AK has a similar gas system as the STG. Now i wouldn't say it is the same though, simply because the STG has a much tighter gas pipe that leads to the bolt carrier. The AK has a much looser one, which is why the AK is known to be near unjam-able and indestructible.
helix4811 9 months ago
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@helix4811 most gun didn't have the same gas system because the STG was the first of its kind. Also, they are the same gas systems. "AKM's are all around better, only because it was reverse engineered from the STG. Kalashnikov made a lot of changes but don't let him fool you, there was nothing too original about the AK-47. The AR-15 copied parts of the STG also. The Germans were thinking so far ahead of everyone else, we adopted most of their ww2 technology"- vids4chrome
a2redneck 9 months ago
@a2redneck
uh, you're wrong dude, the STG was just an elongated Machine pistol, and it had a similar gas system to the MG series of machine guns...
helix4811 9 months ago
@helix4811 plus the stg is an open bolt design,where ak is closed bolt.
morbidangelofdeath1 9 months ago
@morbidangelofdeath1
not necessarily, many AK's were made with an open bolt system, origninally this was rejected by the Soviets (don't know why) and he was forced to change it 4 times...
the STG went through 3 phases, first one being the STG-43 which had an closed bolt design, the STG44 changed that to open bolt and the STG45 kept the same open bolt design.
helix4811 9 months ago
@eric9287 its pathetic when people like you try to prove something about a guns when they know nothing about them
jcodym13 1 year ago
@eric9287 well nooo durrr
PARTICLEZXz 5 months ago
@eric9287 Kalashnikov copied the basic concept, but it is interesting (to real guns fans) how every little design component is so different:
-magazine housing
-breech lock
-safety system
-ejector port cover
To anyone who REALLY knows guns, they will see the M16 as more similar with the StG-44 rather than the AK47.
It's not how it looks in a video game, it's how it handles and operates. That's important.
Treblaine 3 months ago
sturmgewehr 44 is the FIRST assault rifle and MY FAVORITE(from day of defeat source)...if the germans had developed this piece of art earlier and the productions were high..they sure had won the war...and the AK has the basics of STG 44...only design is different
manupainkiller 2 years ago 28
true
matawata14 2 years ago
@manupainkiller did you want them to win
coolkid124512 1 year ago
@manupainkiller yea i hate how russians say the AK47 was the first assault rifle and that they invented the assault rifle when all they did was just steal an STG44 and simplify it.
poxflaza 1 year ago
@manupainkiller
maybe not the war though,
the Soviets probably would still have overrunned them,
your like the few people who though that the V1 and V2 would win the round and did they? No
lubi125 1 year ago
@lubi125 you're probably right,the Soviets would overrunned them...but if the rifle would be developed earlier,it would still change some battles...russians ducked themselfs in the ruins of Stalingrad,and Germany wasn't to prepare to a "cat and mouse" battle,also,was a very cold day and the german "steel" couldn't start...so germany fought with the "reserves"...from that day...they started to lose everything
manupainkiller 8 months ago
@lubi125 in my opinion,hitler was a fool because he fought in 3 fronts (eastern front,england,nord africa) and he also declared war to USA,pfff...he should fight one enemy at a time,maybe then he had a chance.
germans are great nation,did many things at that time,search on wikipedia "nazi superweapons",you will be stunned,i assure you ! :D
manupainkiller 8 months ago
kalashnikov copied it lol
imachristian100 2 years ago 2
yes but not competely
sqaudseven 2 years ago
stg44 gewher43 similar cool love all ww2 guns and wish i could have hem all
greatgallade 2 years ago
@greatgallade They make replicas that funstion but they cost a fair bit.
sqaudseven 2 years ago
Guys, you can tell me what you want, i am german and i am proud of our shit, german engineering in the house, sorry guys ;-)
yourtubedeejay 2 years ago 24
i love you and germans
bentenren 1 year ago
@yourtubedeejay um america risked 1 million lives fighting german enginering so shut up
littlefishkid 1 year ago
@littlefishkid The fought hitler, and after the americans took advance of all our technology, werner braun developed your a-bomb and so on. And look what bush did, he messed the world more up than hitlver ever could do. stupid americans.
yourtubedeejay 1 year ago
@yourtubedeejay tthe germans were fucking crazy same with iraq afgan mexico and vietnam all crazy dumbasses got their asses kicked
littlefishkid 1 year ago
@littlefishkid
are you stupid vietnam owned america
jet2696 1 year ago
@littlefishkid are you nuts? the nazis were had the most technologically advanced weapons in ww2! of course they eventually were overwhelmed, but it had to take the whole world to do so. just against one country.
yalefail 1 year ago
@yalefail actually russia beat them in one battle
littlefishkid 1 year ago
@littlefishkid The reason why the Russian won was because they got lucky, just like how they defeated Napolean of France. The winter in Russia is freezing balls and pretty much made the German retreat. Also, the Germans got ambushed by them, although the major disadvantage of USSR is that there were not many good generals since Stalin killed them, and the limited weapons Russia has.
TheStrawberryLolicon 1 year ago
@yourtubedeejay at least america is fucking normal not fucking starting drug wars silly europeans
littlefishkid 1 year ago
awsome !!!
SuperBobafet 2 years ago
I don't support the Nazis but I will give them this the Germans have a nack for finding new tech. Like the first jet bomber, the blitz, the me-262, first jet fighter, and this weapon the stg-43.
Plus during ww1 they made the first bomber so don't deny that they didn't have good tech because you would be telling a huge ass lie
TeadTheBag 2 years ago
haha the voice that goes over the details is awesome
blibbyboo 2 years ago
its Sturmgewehr not Stuermgewuer goddamnit!
maitimu 2 years ago
this weapon is the predecessor of the modern automatic rifles an the prodecessor of the best weapon in the world, the Ak 47. the magazine is nearly the same and the accuracy was made faster.
i love this weapon.
HrPropanfloete 2 years ago
The magazines look the same because the 7.62x39 tapers which requires the magazines to be curved, so that isn't really a valid point. The AK-47 and STG44 share little in common internally other then they have the same gas operation. The Russians copied the idea of the
STG44, but they did not copy the design itself.
esh325 2 years ago
sieg heil... no more words .. i know maypority of people hates thisyears but people have to realize aboput the nazi deutchsland technology
TheOrangeKnight579 2 years ago
Realize what? That most of it was overpriced, under performing crap? That they pretended that their work arounds were some kind of high technology advance?
DonMeaker 2 years ago
crap? without them we wouldn't have made it to the moon! without them we wouldn't have jet aircraft. Without them we wouldn't have Night Vision and as you can see from this video without them we wouldn't have assault rifles. Without them the modern m16 and ak47 never would have been developed. Its time to face the facts that the Nazi had outstanding technology.
GermanSniper666 2 years ago
Actually, the US jet engines were from the line of Whittle. The AK-47 is a turn bolt gas operated design, as is the earlier M-1 Garand.
DonMeaker 2 years ago
You should enlighten yourself & read a book called "American Raiders" written by Wolfgang Samuel.
The 1st operational jet aircraft was the ME 262 but the 1st jet aircraft flew in 1939. It was built by Heinkel.
There was a US aircraft company, either Northrop or Lockheed, where the scientists (after German capitulation) tried to & learned German in 2 weeks in order to grasp the theories and mindset used to develop the planes of the Luftwaffe.
The idea for the Stuka came from the US tho.
HerrGeneralVonBraun 2 years ago
It was interesting how the Messerschmidt company got contracts when Heinkel was often more advanced. Everything in Germany was done through political influence. That led to many practical ideas being left on the drawing board, while monsters like the ever bigger Tigers, Elephants etc. were ignored. With shortages of aluminium, they wasted aluminum on canteens for their soldiers. And Northrop had a clever fellow, named Von Karman who the Germans tried to lure back to Germany.
DonMeaker 2 years ago
Yes Sir. You are correct on that note. Heinkel didn't get the contracts (but Messerschmitt did). The "political influence" was a flaw from a result of German political structure my friend.
The German political structure was almost identical to Capitalism. It was like a pseudo-form of Capitalism used to appease the big wigs of business who scoffed at Communism.
It was supposed to create positive competition (like in the US) but the politics & corrupt human diplomacy undermined the system.
HerrGeneralVonBraun 2 years ago
German rocketeers built on the pioneering work of Goddard. The AK-47 is a gas operated turnbolt, like the M-1 Garand which preceeded it by 10 years. The G-36 is the first gas operated turnbolt fielded by the Germans, 50 years after the M-1.
DonMeaker 2 years ago
German rocketeers didn't exactly build on the work of Goddard but the work of some 1000 years of rocketry which I believe 1st came out of China (w/ their glorious invention called "gunpowder").
The USA, in the case of Charles Kettering & Nikola Tesla, have supressed it's best scientists, those revolutionary in the field of science, & un-endingly promoted a watered-down science since the birth of the country. The Nazis pushed research into overdrive without ideological limitations.
HerrGeneralVonBraun 2 years ago
Well you get the Congreves rocket and Hale rockets too.
Kettering was head of GM's research and development group, and GMs largest stock holder during WWII. I don't think he felt supressed. Telsa was vice president of American institute of Electrical Engineering, not oppressed either. Nazis had their ideological limitations, something about being offended by that Jewish Physics, not to mention their racist nonsense, which sent many good men to the US where they were put to good use.
DonMeaker 2 years ago
Kettering's advances of technology weren't fully transferred to the mainstream & used in public application. The same for Tesla. The advanced research of these two brilliant men was kept under the rug for financial interests of capitalism. It's profitable to mass produce in a "capital" economy. Now maybe Kettering decided to say fuck the tech and fatten his wallet or maybe "they" (the powers that be) positioned him there to feed his need for greed.
HerrGeneralVonBraun 2 years ago