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God also commands people to stone their son to death if he's rebellious. The God you talk about is a monster. He wants you to love him, but he wants you to fear him even more. The same as Hitler or other dictators. You're a willing slave to a tyrannical God.
I hope science advances to that point where these kind of guys (no offence) will not even try to come in front of media and try desperately to prove the existence of an almighty God. But I hope that time comes sooner, because the truth that cannot be discovered by science and was discovered by The Buddha will not last forever until the people start believing that an almighty God doesn't exist, the same way they now believe that the earth is spherical.
What takes more faith, to trust a known liar, or to trust a man who is known by all for his honesty? Religion has always been wrong and when it was in charge, we suffered the dark ages. While science has given us our modern world. So no, our faith is not the same.
The multiverse is not "just an opinion", its a scientific hypothesis proposed by the sharpest minds on the planet.
At one point the guy said that it takes faith to believe in M-theory. Well, maybe that's true, but that faith is different from religious faith. To believe in a creator of the universe who also at one point was a human and walked on water is one thing, and to trust in science is another. To me the god concept seems to be highly improbable.
I believe in the multiverse, but its not a big part of my worldview. I'm happy to settle for "we don't know jet"
@FrozenPetrolPie Both faith,no difference, science is not having to take anyone's word for it right?
Without evidence, the multiverse is just an opinion, which like every opinion, is based on preference, in this case an intellectually fashionable preference for an accidental/ non created universe. The same preference that caused ‘scientists’ to claim a static Universe, and scoff at a creation, until a theist discovered the Big Bang
The professor dude forgot to add that we do not believe in Hawkings theory. We just simply accept the fact that we still don't know, but that we have theories, which are strongly held.
There is several things wrong with his proposal. It also defies physics itself. The biggest thing is though is that matter and and energy can not be created nor destroyed it can only change form. That is the number one thing in physics. If he forgot this well he is not very smart then or he is losing his mind one or the other. Anyone want to debate this with me be my guest.
There is several things wrong with his proposal. It also defies physics itself. The biggest thing is though is that matter and and energy can not be created nor destroyed. The biggest thing in physics. If he forgot this well he is not very smart then or he is losing his mind one or the other. Anyone want to debate this with me be my guest.
hey you all religios folks ! this is a science video. we rational people dont expect u(religious) folks to understand any of this.its like arguing with a child or a mentally handicap person.go watch pat robertson
hey 'oowoop' einstien was not religios you moron! the god he mentioned was metaphorical! read some more.." a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing"
Hawking - "Our collective free time needs to shift as much as possible to education. Whether you're a young student or finished school long ago, get out to the library whenever you can and work hard to learn everything you can about this world. Each individual and society will benefit from being able to solve more problems and make better decisions. Education is an amazing discovery process that repays you endlessly."
Belief & imagination generates future trends (paths). Science (knowledge) merely examines existing patterns/trends, which can imprison imagination. Reality is fluid and constantly in motion. So knowledge constantly changes because reality is consciousness at its fundamental level...and the reason why it constantly perplexes & confuses science. Via imagination & belief, one can transcend the scientific method & more effectively construct one's future (path). Science can only follow imagination.
For anyone of a religious nature, to qualify as intelligent in my eyes, they must reject rigid doctrine and be open to the idea of anything. They must not be afraid of truth, and must actively seek it out. Yes god is possible, but to rigidly say that it MUST be god and it cannot be anything else, and that what is in the bible is the only way things could have happened, is just plain unintelligent. Science has already confirmed that things didn't happen according to Genesis.
Religion was only made to describe what mans lack of scientific knowledge could not. The ancients believed the sun was a god but now we know that to not be true. We don't know what happens after death or how we were created which is what religion is still based on today. I believe that eventually physics will soon find some knowledge on the creation of our universe and eventually there really will be no need for religion anymore.
Science won't win this battle because science is based on reality and religion is not. Religion can always expand their fairy stories to accomodate our knowledge of universe. Science can't do that. But people have their limits taking bullshit. Religion I would invest time into in near/far future is budhism which is not religion anyway. Rest is just pagan leftovers which lingers for so long. Blah.
@oowoop Buddhism isn't a religion? Bullshit, I invite you to travel through Thailand. Visit some Wats and see people worshiping statues of Buddha and house spirits. It's a religion it's just not one you know much about.
@usukatlifegodiekthx I agree with you about all you said and buddhism was skewed to something unrecognisable. But in essence buddhism is not religion but a way of thinking or philosophy if you wish. Even Einstein said only religion of the future would be buddhism. Buddhism does not require from you to have faith in higher being. Foundation is Four Noble truths anything beyond that is just ...something else. And I try to live by Four Noble truths so I guess I know something about it.
@oowoop If you just want to pick some philosophy from it that's great but just because I like the teaching of Jesus doesn't make me a Christian and doesn't mean its not a religion. The core of it is religion, visions of his birth, a prophecy of him being either a great political leader or spiritual one, fighting demons of temptation and becoming a spiritual teacher to the gods, reincarnation. Why would you that quote by Einstein? If Buddhism is the religion of the future its still a religion.
@usukatlifegodiekthx First of all there are quite a lot scientific facts that Jesus probably didn't exist. There are lot of less significant events which were documented at those times none of them mention a men who can make fish and bread from nothing and there are quite some good connections with pagan belive systems much more before Jesus which are related to astronomical events and object. If you think about it what was biggest mistery then. Sun, Moon and the Stars.
@usukatlifegodiekthx First of all there are quite a lot scientific facts that Jesus probably didn't exist. There are lot of less significant events which were documented at those times none of them mention a men who can make fish and bread from nothing and there are quite some good connections with pagan belive systems much more before Jesus which are related to astronomical events and object. If you think about it what was biggest mistery then. Sun, Moon and the Stars.
@oowoop Buddha on other hand was studying suffering and that is the essence of buddhism. All worshiping, gold statues and what not was added later by people who weren't satisfied with answer they got from Buddha which he said 'We all suffer'. That didn't require faith from people but everyone could relate to that as did Einstein and keep in mind he was religious man (God does not play dice - A. Einstein). I'm not attacking anybody I'm just adding my view. That is why it's called comment.
@oowoop Buddha on other hand was studying suffering and that is the essence of buddhism. All worshiping, gold statues and what not was added later by people who weren't satisfied with answer they got from Buddha which he said 'We all suffer'. That didn't require faith from people but everyone could relate to that as did Einstein and keep in mind he was religious man (God does not play dice - A. Einstein). I'm not attacking anybody I'm just adding my view. That is why it's called comment.
@oowoop And religion will be very hard nut to crack because it was embeded in our brains through evolution (See book: Brain bugs) but evolution will take it's course and even that part of brain will change through many generations as will others parts of our brain and body. Religion also gives answers to most important questions about life and death that is why it is so lucrative. I would love to be deeply religious, life would be easier. But I can't be it lacks logic.
@oowoop OK, you said a lot and none of it refuted what I originally said, Buddhism is a religion. I don't care about Christianity, I'm an atheist I was using it as an example. I don't even know what your talking about anymore if your agreeing or disagreeing with me that it's a religion. Religion doesn't give any answers though it just guesses.
"beacuse laws such as gravity exist..." why do laws such as gravity exist? maybe god made gravity then gravity made the universe. if this is not possible tell me plz.
@yeller909 The problem in this case is god is unnecessary: If gravity was created by god then what created god? And if nothing created god and god always existed, then it's much more simple and likely that the laws always existed rather than god because a god would be even more complex.
@DMAN123223 more simple:yes. more likely: no. you cannot say that. there is no way to tell which interpretation (gravity 1st, or god 1st then gravity) is more likely. saying one interpretation is simpler than another doesn't make it more likely. i still believe that it is possible that god created gravity. god may be unnecessary (as Hawking says), but that only OPENS UP the possibility that god doesnt exist. it does not confirm the assertion that god doesn't exist.
@yeller909 Well it has a great deal to do with how you define god. The singularity, a quantum split, the process of abiogenesis, an old guy in a robe etc. We know that complex things often come from smaller non-complex things therefore it is likely that god was a non-complex thing the least complex things of all is something that does not exist.
@DMAN123223 "we know that complex things often come from smaller non-complex things"?one could say that the other way often happens just as much as well, simple things come from complex things. radiation comes from the sun.carbon dioxide comes from my body.i dont understand why it's more likely that the universe came from a simple thing, and not from something that we can't concieve of.maybe god doesn't exist, but i don't understand how we can assign a true % likeihood to him existing or not.
@yeller909 Ah yes, but the sun is matured, it didn't start that way it started simple and you started as an embryo. Simple things often develop into complex things. As I see it there are three possibilities:
1.) "god" is a simple thing that developed the universe.
2.) "god" is a complex thing that developed the universe.
3.) "god" was a simple thing, that became a complex thing that developed the universe.
@yeller909 Gravity exists if mass exist. So I guess! there had to be particles with mass first (or simultaneus) before gravity could mould them into stuff we know today. What bothers me more is what is light and through what medium it travels. Theories suggest it's electro-magnetic medium but that is somehow... well unsatisfying.
If theres no universe how can a universe create itself?... if it is 'because of the laws of physics' do the laws of physics depend on a universe? granted stephen is way smarter than me and I'm probably going to buy the book
I like Buddha's attitude when he got questions like that. 'nobody will ever perseive the beggining of beggings' and such. unprofitable questions.
@shanyin1234 I do agree with you, partly. I'm an atheist but my mother is a buddhist and I agree with a lot of it's principles and teachings. I think there is great wisdom in a lot of it. I'm not sure that i completely agree with Hawking (though obviously he's much smarter than me lol. As you also said). but there are other theories about the universe, such as the oscillating universe theory, that don't depend on the universe coming 'from nothing'. I think it's a big leap from believing...
@shanyin1234 that it was a concious entity that began the universe, to thinking that this same entity founded our planet on purpose and has an interest in every one of our lives and wishes us to live by a certain moral code and will punish us if we don't, and reward us if we do. Which the bishop in the video, must subscibe to, if he's a christian. That's what makes me not buy into christianity or any other dogmatic faith. There's such an ego-centric and earth-centric spin on the whole thing.
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@jfny1 I agree with that saying as long as requires from you to believe into something. But facts doesn't require believe and that's what Hawking was trying to say.
@LeavittMusicService Hawking is a physicist, not a biologist-- his work has nothing to do with the formation of life. Creationists are simply using an even more primitive argument for the existence of their favorite deities. No legitimate biologist believes life is of supernatural origin, but rather a natural chemical process. Likewise, the Big Bang can now be explained in terms of quantum phenomena, not magic. Looking for god in a physical process is a vain pursuit. .
@thetruth3574 Unfortunately none of what you said is viable from a purely scientific perspective. Quantum phenomena or rather quantum physics demonstrates clearly futility of every trying to answer the question what happened before? Apart from intelligent design there is ultimately no explanation, quantum or otherwise, for what existed before to infinity. You have to look at causes for effects not merely your high school physics teacher. Talk about vain pursuits.
@LeavittMusicService Just bnecasue we can't observe anything before the Big Bang (becasue there was no "before" in the conventional sense) doesn't mean we can't draw inferences about what there is OTHER THAN the Big Bang.
@LeavittMusicService Gods are not an explanation, merely an excuse to stop looking for answers. Whose god created the universe, yours or those of some other religion, or some god we haven't heard of? What are the characteristics of this god or gods? How, technically, did they accomplish this creative feat? Dead silence.
@LeavittMusicService First define life. We know about life just from our planet. There could be intelligent life forms from inorganic matter and fear is we wouldn't recognise them as living beings. Life is mostly defined moraly or ethicaly but in science is still big unknown but not important question. And science can't answer "why" question but answers questions "how".
@drspooglemon and @louisrocks10...i really think both you guy's really need to get off of hawkings dick!..who gives a flying fuck if he a acaqdemic monolith or what ever you want to call him?!..you guy's seem like 2 guys who if hawking told you the sky was green and not blue you would believe it!...and your a sorry excuse!...get OFF MY DICK!..you fuckin troll's!!!!!
@jfny1 As an aside, there's a tragic irony in someone who considers goatherders who lived 2000 years ago to be a source of ultimate truth and who then goes on to accuse others of believing anything without question.
Scientific theories are based exclusively on facts and evidence. Religion is a farce by comparison. It's a system where the morally corrupt shepherd the gullible; the corrupt receive status & influence, the gullible receive someone who eloquently affirms their delusions for them.
@jfny1 well, religious people have their authorities and prophets, and atheists and scientific enthusiasts have...authorities and prophets too, apparently
so we are believing in a guy who twitches his cheek and a wire relays his words to a computer...hmm..now let's put 2 and 2 together..we are to believe that there is no god because a guy who is a vegetable say's god don't exist? comn now..let see what you think when your on your death bed..that time will come for all of us.
@jfny1 1) That Hawking communicates through cheek movements does not mean he's less intelligent. 2) For some of us, on our death bed, the concept of god will sound as empty and made up as it does now.
@jfny1 as a christian should you really be calling someone a vegetable? and furthermore he's a million times smarter than you so fuck off and stop trolling
@jfny1 You are a sad sorry excuse for a troll. Yes he is in a vegetative state. But he is an academic monolith. You are just a bible thumping cretin...
People keep focusing on this "god" thing. We need to advance our understand of the universe and try to find cures for horrid diseases, not worry about this "god" thing.
I too never understood why religion is even compared with science. have some respect @Kota3x for the world-religion scientist. without these scientists, there won't be Ivy league university. while physic doesn't provide the absolute answer to this debate, but it's the most the logical answer. by all put down the bible's side, the bible side has more holes that even top religious (bibilical) leaders can't answer.
Science simply doesnt work, there was a point in time where people believed in spontaneous generation, the creation of life out of nothing, which was later proved NOT to be true and bio-genesis came into play.(basically meaning life coming from life) Now for the Big Bang to be true, life would of had to simply form out of nothing, all evolutionists have to believe in a theory that was DISPROVEN. BIOGENESIS IS A LAW AND HIS STATEMENTS COMPLETELY CONTRADICT THIS LAW, MAKING HIS STATEMENTS FALSE
@Kota3x You sir are an idiot. The origin of life on this one, infinitesimally small and insignificant, rock has nothing to do with the origin of the universe.
Your religion does you a disservice by promising you a prominence you do not deserve. No doubt this is its appeal to you.
@ashlienicholex33 Well if they would give me billions of dollars for research; us religous fanatics wouldn't leave it at that. He's making millions on a theory.
I'm less interested on his ideas about religion than his (SH) ideas on multiverses (many universes) and what they would be like and why. I've been fascinated by physics and how we are always learning more (though I have more of an affinity for the biological/ecological sciences) ever since I picked up his (SH) book "Universe in a Nutshell". Religion can go suck a big one...
When scientists talk about things like this, they ADMIT when we are not sure about things. They do not believe it on faith, they believe the hypothesis is a possible explanation, and carry out more science to try to prove or disprove the hypothesis.
Contrast this with religious faith. They say faith is all you need, and that what they have faith in is actually correct, it doesn't require proof.
No, the fundamental forces did not come about by natural selection, which is a biological process. Physical laws came about in the first fraction of a second of the Big Bang, and took their values at random. The Big Bang in turn is a quantum vacuum fluctuation-- an instability in nothingness which can create variations in positive and negative energies.
@lookatmepleasesir Please don't ask me to explain modern physics to you in 500 characters or less. Try using search terms, "universe from nothing" to find videos that could give you a better idea about what sceintists haver discovered in the last century while you weren't paying attention. If you actually care.
@lookatmepleasesir Nothingness can have instability because energy can have positive or negative values, which usually balance out in a vacuum, but can spontanously separate into equal and opposite particles which add up to zero but amount to measureable forces when as long as they are apart. That's what our universe is, a fluke of time/space.
@MRobert2l I am not making any assertions about science. Nothing, by definition, cannot have any state, because its nothing. Anything with properties, attributes and values is something. What you're reffering to is the quantum vacuum, which is a something.
@lookatmepleasesir By your definition, "nothing" doesn't exist except as an abstract concept, like a line with "zero" width. Fine, if you want to define it that way, but that doesn't mean the quantum vacuum needs a "god" to get it started, let alone a god invented by Bronze-age Middle Eastern tribsesmen in the image of one of their chieftans. The quantum vacuum is not subject to time in the conventional sense (time flows from it, not the other way around) and therefore cannot be said to begin.
people should treat truth like they treat things... when we have many things, we are happy... so, when we have many truths (science version, A religion version, B religion version, exotic tribal beliefs, atheist version etc..) we are also happy ... lol :p :p :p
people should treat truth like they treat things... when we have many things, we are happy... so, when we have many truths (science version, religion version) we are also happy ... lol :p :p :p
@dfdtdfdx What does religion have to do with the truth?
The various "holy books" are full of statements and claims which our investiagions of the natural world found can not possibly be true. If we apparently can't trust religion to tell us where we came from, then how can we trust it to tell us where we are going?
I think Hawking was never accepting that there is a god, instead he was talking about gods in the cosmic sense as "gods are the forces of nature and the laws of physics". Scientist are always misunderstood when they talk about gods in this sense. It's happened to Dawkins, Einstein, and many more.
So people want to know why we are here? I will tell you why, we are here because the single cell organisms at the beginning of life fought damn hard to stay alive and billions upon billion of deaths, struggles, and reproducing, over the billions of years since the start of life have evolved us to what we are now, and we (all living things to date) carry that simple gene which enables us to fight for life. Some humans water it down and simple say "God did it" DISGRACEFUL!
It's funny that you only have to look at the way people construct sentences, use exclamation, punctuation and question marks and caps lock to figure out if they're atheists, i.e. logical, reasoning, knowledgeable and insightful or theists, who are emotional, subjective, uneducated, lack a penetrative discernment for key arguments in discourses and are completely unaware that their argument has been nullified decades ago and yet repeat them as if they were news to everyone.
@Enleuk there are certainly plenty of atheists out there whose positions are running on a lot of emotion. Are you saying all atheists are knowledgeable, insightful and logical? because my experience on the internet has shown there are a vast, vast amount I wouldn't describe that way. I also don't see how theistic arguments have been nullified. What was it that happened decades ago which nullified their arguments?
@lookatmepleasesir Not all arguments at once, I was referring to a hypothetically specific argument. I agree that not all atheists are intelligent or know what they're talking about, but just to take an example, there was a survey in the U.S. showing that atheists and agnostics had higher IQ and knew more about the bible than Christians. Might've been two separate surveys. Most irrational, angry atheists are the result of the unbelievable stupidity theists greet them with online.
MCneun, you're blatantly wrong. First and most obvious, you said our universe COULD NOT have been created by accident but in your very example you COULD pick the number the desired beans. Secondly, the universe had to come out some way and the way it did is no less probable than any other way it could have been. Life is only so astounding to you because your the one living it, to the universe it's no more or less astounding than anything else within it.
Why is there religion? Wait until the point that we find a bearded fellow smoking a pipe and discussing how the next Universe should look....until that time there is no compelling evidence whatsoever for a God or Gods.....instead of spending your time preaching etc, why not spend that time to help pursue the 'How' scientific question so we can probe the 'Why', instead of battling an argument & holding 'God', a fabricated ancient idea that hasnt died....move on & help with our scientific movement
What Hawking has done now is start an attack on religion instead of trying to prove his scientific theories. By insulting religion he has made himself look like an old man mad at the religious community.
@PAwrestler4life I wouldn't necessarily say that. Hawking simply says that M-theory makes god unnecessary! He never said that god doesn't exist. He's simply using rationality and mathematics to say that maybe our universe is not the only one. Just like the Earth in the universe, our universe very well could be one of infinitely many universes within the bulk.
@PAwrestler4life Prof. Hawking hasn't "insulted" anybody. He has simply given his opinion and backed it up with solid reasoning. He has been very respectful to everyone. It is religious reactionaries who are being insulting. They are thin skinned becasue they know that their superstitions cannot stand up to debate using scientific standards. They behave as though it is an outrage just to think differently than they do, but they no longer have the Inquisition to enforce their prejudices.
M-theory is not a leap of faith. It's what makes sense! The Religious cosmological model looks something like this: (God)-->(Big Bang)--------->humans, with a lot going on in between the big bang and humans. Looking at it from this perspective god must not love us because we are insignificant within our universe. Whereas multiple universes does make sense. It's compatible with our insignificance within our own universe. Stephen Hawking is right! Humans created God!
you are a fucking monkey you dicklicker. if you dont respect other people....there are about 1.5 billions of muslims in the world and you think that you are smarter than all these people then come suck my dick, and take your mother with you piece of bitch.
"And then, Mohamed did the world a favour and killed himself."
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1.5 billion muslims? In this case, i think evolution theory is wrong. The world is actually involuting. No human being can embrace such a catastrophical garbage as Islam only brainless animals
How did the claptrap of two lobotomised idiots get rated so highly?
No one created the big bang, you fool, that's the whole point. There is no why with these things only conformity, uniformity, necessity. We are in one of possibly billions of other co-existing universes.
@MCeun yes there is a question to be answered before the big bang what happened. Unfortunately we can only take the evidence that our solar system has provided to us and use this to put together an educated guess or presumption on what WE think might have happened in the beginning. Then we use physics to prove our presumption. However we know that a big bang theory happened. Beyond that is what WE are trying to figure out know.
A fact that is true and one day we will be able to prove it. Life form outside of our universe must exist. You people read what has been given for you to read. provide more information
its funny that you people keep quoting scriptures but you have no proof nor do you have proof where ur GOD or what ever you would like to call him has come from. Even he has said everything has been made from something. I find it odd that he was always there! It just contradicts what he states and expects humans to believe. I believe there is something out there just not what you guys believe. You people need that in your life to survive. The book of all answers cant answers where he is from
-Do? not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
@MCneun Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days[other measuring unit] - and His Throne was over the waters - that He might try you, which? of you is best in conduct. But if thou wert to say to them, "Ye shall indeed be raised up after death", the Unbelievers would be sure to say, "This is nothing but obvious sorcery!"
God! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth....
....He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme
@MCneun Its little wonder that the peoples who have been infected with the mental disease known as Islam have degenerated into murderous fanatics. You exemplify the mindset most vividly.
My belief is that OUR god as we know him was created to give HUMANS a way to die peacefully and to assure them a peace full resting place. God does not speak about life on other solar systems. Why I could not imagine that life could not find a way to exist in all of the lights years of travel in our the solar system. Everywhere on earth some type of life form does exist. This just leads me to believe that somewhere life out there does exist.
Well if everything came or was created by someone or something than you have to ask where did God come come from? I do not understand why people believe god was always there, but the universe could not have always been at its earliest form. Myself I believe that there is something far greater than what we can reveal today. The complication of the Solar system cannot rest alone on one creator.
I like the example of one scientist, but dont remember his name, and he said: Put 10 beans on your pocket and before label them with numbers from 1 to 10.
And try at first to pick one desired number, its difficult,
Try at second to pick two desired numbers one after another, its more difficult
Try at third to pick three desired numbers from 10 beans, more difficult
and more.....
And you will see that a complexe universe such like this and the human just cannot be created by accident!!!!
@MCneun Your example of picking beans at random is not at all like the real world. In reality, there is a range of characteristics which are suitable to any pattern, those that work will last and continue replicating. The closer the form is to ideal for that range, the longer it will continue. Once an element works, it allows other elements to fall into place and build further. Your lame example would never fool a scientist. A religious fanatic maybe, but no one pays attention to them.
@lookatmepleasesir QUOTE: "is this how the fundamental laws of the universe came about? "
No, I was describing the process of biological evolution through natural selection. The fundamental laws of physics took their values at random at the moment of the Big Bang. There is undoubtedly a MORE fundamental set of principles underlying the Big Bang process which has yet to be understood. But all the complexity we observe in the universe came from the interaction of a few simple forces.
steven hawking thinks hes the ultimate smartest man on earth eh!
does he think that a God who created all this, he has not the knowledge to hide Himself???? hes just a joke and the most scientist are a bunch of jokes.
God created the universe, He created time, He created space, the dimensions.
and a fuckin human thinks there is no God!!!
OK WHO CREATED THAT BING BANG BALL BEFORE, FROM WHERE CAME THE MATERIALS???FIRST I WANT THIS QUESTION ANSWERED BY THE SCIENTISTS
@MCneun Why do you want scientists to answer this question when you have already answered this in your own mind..the answers will be revealed soon but I doubt if you have the acumen to understand them.
@MCneun LMAO Troll. Go read the book, just because your happy in your conceited little bubble, the one where you think YOU are special, doesn't mean those who actually care about the truth and searching for it courageously like scientists are "jokers"... They are brave enough to stare the TRUTH in the face even if it isn't comforting to think we are not SPECIAL or designed for a purpose... go back to your box.
@MCneun you want answers that have already been given but aren't prepared to look at or not intellligent enough to comprihend, with that I'm not saying you're dumb but Advanced Theoretical Physics, isn't something you can understand with common sense
question if god is the only thing not created, where was he before he started creating?
@Toudiyama Thats something a human mind cant understand and in Qur'an God says that same, that the human mind cannot perceive God, because hes from Nour[ a light], which the human being would never see that or detect. God says always he was always without beginning, and says He will be always without an end. because God created time, before it didnt exist.
Einstein didnt believe in black holes, now they believe. You dont believe the God, the time will come and you will believe God!
@Toudiyama i mean you cant see a fucking blue lights or infrared lights, and the ear is limited and cant hear all the frequences and you want to perceive the Creator...???you know that the human isnt the ultimate creature, yet you want to describe the heavens and the dimensions how they function???first you must see all and detect more unknown dimensions or lights, to try to expain something, but these scientic bitches, with 100 years of knowledge about universe are sure that there is no God
@MCneun you can't see blue light?? you must mean ultra violet, doesn matter anyhow as we have equipment that can
In science they explain as best as they can with the technology that is there at the time, science can build on itself the more they find out the more they will be able to find out, your solution we can't complete see so do not look
will just mean we will ever see, something people like you would likely prefer
The positive of the scientist are, they are trying to explain the world. If there was no scientists i would probably not really believe for example this following vers.
Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
[Al Anbiya: 30]
but the negative is, because they say God could not exist, even the today's science is in one's infancy.
@MCneun scientist like SH say no god is needed to explain how the universe got about.
why infer a suppernatural entity when there are perfectly fine natural explanations
Again I'n not interested in Qurán verses, even if you think they contain scientific knowledge ( which I've being seen debunked many of times) or miracles, claiming things weren't know yet at the time even though they were centruries before islam
Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
tigersforchrist 6 days ago
@tigersforchrist
God also commands people to stone their son to death if he's rebellious. The God you talk about is a monster. He wants you to love him, but he wants you to fear him even more. The same as Hitler or other dictators. You're a willing slave to a tyrannical God.
itzahazylife 6 days ago
I hope science advances to that point where these kind of guys (no offence) will not even try to come in front of media and try desperately to prove the existence of an almighty God. But I hope that time comes sooner, because the truth that cannot be discovered by science and was discovered by The Buddha will not last forever until the people start believing that an almighty God doesn't exist, the same way they now believe that the earth is spherical.
devindasahan100 1 month ago 2
Universe was not created by god, an almighty god doesn't exist.
devindasahan100 1 month ago
What takes more faith, to trust a known liar, or to trust a man who is known by all for his honesty? Religion has always been wrong and when it was in charge, we suffered the dark ages. While science has given us our modern world. So no, our faith is not the same.
The multiverse is not "just an opinion", its a scientific hypothesis proposed by the sharpest minds on the planet.
FrozenPetrolPie 1 month ago
At one point the guy said that it takes faith to believe in M-theory. Well, maybe that's true, but that faith is different from religious faith. To believe in a creator of the universe who also at one point was a human and walked on water is one thing, and to trust in science is another. To me the god concept seems to be highly improbable.
I believe in the multiverse, but its not a big part of my worldview. I'm happy to settle for "we don't know jet"
FrozenPetrolPie 2 months ago
@FrozenPetrolPie Both faith,no difference, science is not having to take anyone's word for it right?
Without evidence, the multiverse is just an opinion, which like every opinion, is based on preference, in this case an intellectually fashionable preference for an accidental/ non created universe. The same preference that caused ‘scientists’ to claim a static Universe, and scoff at a creation, until a theist discovered the Big Bang
GuyThreepwoody 1 month ago
The professor dude forgot to add that we do not believe in Hawkings theory. We just simply accept the fact that we still don't know, but that we have theories, which are strongly held.
FNsMadman 2 months ago
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There is several things wrong with his proposal. It also defies physics itself. The biggest thing is though is that matter and and energy can not be created nor destroyed it can only change form. That is the number one thing in physics. If he forgot this well he is not very smart then or he is losing his mind one or the other. Anyone want to debate this with me be my guest.
iseeifitsgood 3 months ago
There is several things wrong with his proposal. It also defies physics itself. The biggest thing is though is that matter and and energy can not be created nor destroyed. The biggest thing in physics. If he forgot this well he is not very smart then or he is losing his mind one or the other. Anyone want to debate this with me be my guest.
iseeifitsgood 3 months ago
hey you all religios folks ! this is a science video. we rational people dont expect u(religious) folks to understand any of this.its like arguing with a child or a mentally handicap person.go watch pat robertson
aqaehsan11 3 months ago
hey 'oowoop' einstien was not religios you moron! the god he mentioned was metaphorical! read some more.." a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing"
aqaehsan11 3 months ago
@boogiebuddy01 can the orangutan mind create reality?
nubl37 3 months ago
I love how the view count is "25,666".
ChrisMarshallTV 4 months ago
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Hawking - "Our collective free time needs to shift as much as possible to education. Whether you're a young student or finished school long ago, get out to the library whenever you can and work hard to learn everything you can about this world. Each individual and society will benefit from being able to solve more problems and make better decisions. Education is an amazing discovery process that repays you endlessly."
TheLogicalBrain 4 months ago
Belief & imagination generates future trends (paths). Science (knowledge) merely examines existing patterns/trends, which can imprison imagination. Reality is fluid and constantly in motion. So knowledge constantly changes because reality is consciousness at its fundamental level...and the reason why it constantly perplexes & confuses science. Via imagination & belief, one can transcend the scientific method & more effectively construct one's future (path). Science can only follow imagination.
No1warp9 4 months ago
For anyone of a religious nature, to qualify as intelligent in my eyes, they must reject rigid doctrine and be open to the idea of anything. They must not be afraid of truth, and must actively seek it out. Yes god is possible, but to rigidly say that it MUST be god and it cannot be anything else, and that what is in the bible is the only way things could have happened, is just plain unintelligent. Science has already confirmed that things didn't happen according to Genesis.
MRMOJ0H 4 months ago
Once again the religious folk have nothing to say about anything.
zfan2591 4 months ago 3
Religion was only made to describe what mans lack of scientific knowledge could not. The ancients believed the sun was a god but now we know that to not be true. We don't know what happens after death or how we were created which is what religion is still based on today. I believe that eventually physics will soon find some knowledge on the creation of our universe and eventually there really will be no need for religion anymore.
MrBamBam191 5 months ago
''we happened by chance to be in a universe that is suitable for life''
No idiot, this is not chance! We are here BECAUSE it is suitable! There was not a pick if we would appear in universe A/ B/C/D...
Doum92 5 months ago
Reality laughs at us, as we try to imply our religous wants upon it, scientists laugh at reality by learning how to manipulate it. Beautiful really.
JayDee98765 5 months ago
God is a kill switch for critical thinking.
aidanjt 5 months ago 23
@aidanjt not there are nobel prized physicists who believes in god ,religions etc.
esraretin 2 weeks ago
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@aidanjt not there are nobel prized physicists who believe in god ,religions etc.
esraretin 2 weeks ago
Science won't win this battle because science is based on reality and religion is not. Religion can always expand their fairy stories to accomodate our knowledge of universe. Science can't do that. But people have their limits taking bullshit. Religion I would invest time into in near/far future is budhism which is not religion anyway. Rest is just pagan leftovers which lingers for so long. Blah.
oowoop 5 months ago
@oowoop Buddhism isn't a religion? Bullshit, I invite you to travel through Thailand. Visit some Wats and see people worshiping statues of Buddha and house spirits. It's a religion it's just not one you know much about.
usukatlifegodiekthx 5 months ago
@usukatlifegodiekthx I agree with you about all you said and buddhism was skewed to something unrecognisable. But in essence buddhism is not religion but a way of thinking or philosophy if you wish. Even Einstein said only religion of the future would be buddhism. Buddhism does not require from you to have faith in higher being. Foundation is Four Noble truths anything beyond that is just ...something else. And I try to live by Four Noble truths so I guess I know something about it.
oowoop 5 months ago
@oowoop If you just want to pick some philosophy from it that's great but just because I like the teaching of Jesus doesn't make me a Christian and doesn't mean its not a religion. The core of it is religion, visions of his birth, a prophecy of him being either a great political leader or spiritual one, fighting demons of temptation and becoming a spiritual teacher to the gods, reincarnation. Why would you that quote by Einstein? If Buddhism is the religion of the future its still a religion.
usukatlifegodiekthx 5 months ago
@usukatlifegodiekthx First of all there are quite a lot scientific facts that Jesus probably didn't exist. There are lot of less significant events which were documented at those times none of them mention a men who can make fish and bread from nothing and there are quite some good connections with pagan belive systems much more before Jesus which are related to astronomical events and object. If you think about it what was biggest mistery then. Sun, Moon and the Stars.
oowoop 5 months ago
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@usukatlifegodiekthx First of all there are quite a lot scientific facts that Jesus probably didn't exist. There are lot of less significant events which were documented at those times none of them mention a men who can make fish and bread from nothing and there are quite some good connections with pagan belive systems much more before Jesus which are related to astronomical events and object. If you think about it what was biggest mistery then. Sun, Moon and the Stars.
oowoop 5 months ago
@oowoop Buddha on other hand was studying suffering and that is the essence of buddhism. All worshiping, gold statues and what not was added later by people who weren't satisfied with answer they got from Buddha which he said 'We all suffer'. That didn't require faith from people but everyone could relate to that as did Einstein and keep in mind he was religious man (God does not play dice - A. Einstein). I'm not attacking anybody I'm just adding my view. That is why it's called comment.
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@oowoop Buddha on other hand was studying suffering and that is the essence of buddhism. All worshiping, gold statues and what not was added later by people who weren't satisfied with answer they got from Buddha which he said 'We all suffer'. That didn't require faith from people but everyone could relate to that as did Einstein and keep in mind he was religious man (God does not play dice - A. Einstein). I'm not attacking anybody I'm just adding my view. That is why it's called comment.
oowoop 5 months ago
@oowoop And religion will be very hard nut to crack because it was embeded in our brains through evolution (See book: Brain bugs) but evolution will take it's course and even that part of brain will change through many generations as will others parts of our brain and body. Religion also gives answers to most important questions about life and death that is why it is so lucrative. I would love to be deeply religious, life would be easier. But I can't be it lacks logic.
oowoop 5 months ago
@oowoop OK, you said a lot and none of it refuted what I originally said, Buddhism is a religion. I don't care about Christianity, I'm an atheist I was using it as an example. I don't even know what your talking about anymore if your agreeing or disagreeing with me that it's a religion. Religion doesn't give any answers though it just guesses.
usukatlifegodiekthx 4 months ago
god is a human creation no doubt about it.
louisuniverse 5 months ago 2
"beacuse laws such as gravity exist..." why do laws such as gravity exist? maybe god made gravity then gravity made the universe. if this is not possible tell me plz.
yeller909 5 months ago
@yeller909 The problem in this case is god is unnecessary: If gravity was created by god then what created god? And if nothing created god and god always existed, then it's much more simple and likely that the laws always existed rather than god because a god would be even more complex.
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@DMAN123223 more simple:yes. more likely: no. you cannot say that. there is no way to tell which interpretation (gravity 1st, or god 1st then gravity) is more likely. saying one interpretation is simpler than another doesn't make it more likely. i still believe that it is possible that god created gravity. god may be unnecessary (as Hawking says), but that only OPENS UP the possibility that god doesnt exist. it does not confirm the assertion that god doesn't exist.
yeller909 5 months ago
@yeller909 Well it has a great deal to do with how you define god. The singularity, a quantum split, the process of abiogenesis, an old guy in a robe etc. We know that complex things often come from smaller non-complex things therefore it is likely that god was a non-complex thing the least complex things of all is something that does not exist.
DMAN123223 5 months ago
@DMAN123223 "we know that complex things often come from smaller non-complex things"?one could say that the other way often happens just as much as well, simple things come from complex things. radiation comes from the sun.carbon dioxide comes from my body.i dont understand why it's more likely that the universe came from a simple thing, and not from something that we can't concieve of.maybe god doesn't exist, but i don't understand how we can assign a true % likeihood to him existing or not.
yeller909 5 months ago
@yeller909 Ah yes, but the sun is matured, it didn't start that way it started simple and you started as an embryo. Simple things often develop into complex things. As I see it there are three possibilities:
1.) "god" is a simple thing that developed the universe.
2.) "god" is a complex thing that developed the universe.
3.) "god" was a simple thing, that became a complex thing that developed the universe.
in two of three situations god starts simple.
DMAN123223 5 months ago
@yeller909 Gravity exists if mass exist. So I guess! there had to be particles with mass first (or simultaneus) before gravity could mould them into stuff we know today. What bothers me more is what is light and through what medium it travels. Theories suggest it's electro-magnetic medium but that is somehow... well unsatisfying.
oowoop 5 months ago
If theres no universe how can a universe create itself?... if it is 'because of the laws of physics' do the laws of physics depend on a universe? granted stephen is way smarter than me and I'm probably going to buy the book
I like Buddha's attitude when he got questions like that. 'nobody will ever perseive the beggining of beggings' and such. unprofitable questions.
shanyin1234 6 months ago
@shanyin1234 I do agree with you, partly. I'm an atheist but my mother is a buddhist and I agree with a lot of it's principles and teachings. I think there is great wisdom in a lot of it. I'm not sure that i completely agree with Hawking (though obviously he's much smarter than me lol. As you also said). but there are other theories about the universe, such as the oscillating universe theory, that don't depend on the universe coming 'from nothing'. I think it's a big leap from believing...
jungsbodyguard 6 months ago
@shanyin1234 that it was a concious entity that began the universe, to thinking that this same entity founded our planet on purpose and has an interest in every one of our lives and wishes us to live by a certain moral code and will punish us if we don't, and reward us if we do. Which the bishop in the video, must subscibe to, if he's a christian. That's what makes me not buy into christianity or any other dogmatic faith. There's such an ego-centric and earth-centric spin on the whole thing.
jungsbodyguard 6 months ago
@jungsbodyguard I don't buy it either. your not alone on your take on it either
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
@ gluttonforsex ..you believe in what you want to believe and i'll believe in what i believe in..how bout that?!!!
jfny1 7 months ago
@jfny1 I agree with that saying as long as requires from you to believe into something. But facts doesn't require believe and that's what Hawking was trying to say.
oowoop 5 months ago
Hawk has said many things except the one thing that we need to hear:
"here is the scientific proof of the spontaneous generation of life on earth from inorganic matter.
... dead silence...
LeavittMusicService 7 months ago
@LeavittMusicService Hawking is a physicist, not a biologist-- his work has nothing to do with the formation of life. Creationists are simply using an even more primitive argument for the existence of their favorite deities. No legitimate biologist believes life is of supernatural origin, but rather a natural chemical process. Likewise, the Big Bang can now be explained in terms of quantum phenomena, not magic. Looking for god in a physical process is a vain pursuit. .
thetruth3574 6 months ago
@thetruth3574 Unfortunately none of what you said is viable from a purely scientific perspective. Quantum phenomena or rather quantum physics demonstrates clearly futility of every trying to answer the question what happened before? Apart from intelligent design there is ultimately no explanation, quantum or otherwise, for what existed before to infinity. You have to look at causes for effects not merely your high school physics teacher. Talk about vain pursuits.
LeavittMusicService 6 months ago
@LeavittMusicService Just bnecasue we can't observe anything before the Big Bang (becasue there was no "before" in the conventional sense) doesn't mean we can't draw inferences about what there is OTHER THAN the Big Bang.
thetruth3574 6 months ago
@LeavittMusicService Gods are not an explanation, merely an excuse to stop looking for answers. Whose god created the universe, yours or those of some other religion, or some god we haven't heard of? What are the characteristics of this god or gods? How, technically, did they accomplish this creative feat? Dead silence.
thetruth3574 5 months ago
@LeavittMusicService First define life. We know about life just from our planet. There could be intelligent life forms from inorganic matter and fear is we wouldn't recognise them as living beings. Life is mostly defined moraly or ethicaly but in science is still big unknown but not important question. And science can't answer "why" question but answers questions "how".
oowoop 5 months ago
@drspooglemon and @louisrocks10...i really think both you guy's really need to get off of hawkings dick!..who gives a flying fuck if he a acaqdemic monolith or what ever you want to call him?!..you guy's seem like 2 guys who if hawking told you the sky was green and not blue you would believe it!...and your a sorry excuse!...get OFF MY DICK!..you fuckin troll's!!!!!
jfny1 7 months ago
@jfny1 Whatever happened to love and forgiveness?
Why is it that religious people are so often the worst possible examples of the virtues they claim to represent?
GluttonForSex 7 months ago
@jfny1 As an aside, there's a tragic irony in someone who considers goatherders who lived 2000 years ago to be a source of ultimate truth and who then goes on to accuse others of believing anything without question.
Scientific theories are based exclusively on facts and evidence. Religion is a farce by comparison. It's a system where the morally corrupt shepherd the gullible; the corrupt receive status & influence, the gullible receive someone who eloquently affirms their delusions for them.
GluttonForSex 7 months ago
@jfny1 well, religious people have their authorities and prophets, and atheists and scientific enthusiasts have...authorities and prophets too, apparently
lookatmepleasesir 6 months ago
so we are believing in a guy who twitches his cheek and a wire relays his words to a computer...hmm..now let's put 2 and 2 together..we are to believe that there is no god because a guy who is a vegetable say's god don't exist? comn now..let see what you think when your on your death bed..that time will come for all of us.
jfny1 7 months ago
@jfny1 1) That Hawking communicates through cheek movements does not mean he's less intelligent. 2) For some of us, on our death bed, the concept of god will sound as empty and made up as it does now.
Brrrendan2 7 months ago
@jfny1 as a christian should you really be calling someone a vegetable? and furthermore he's a million times smarter than you so fuck off and stop trolling
louisrocks10 7 months ago
@jfny1 You are a sad sorry excuse for a troll. Yes he is in a vegetative state. But he is an academic monolith. You are just a bible thumping cretin...
DrSpooglemon 7 months ago
I could care less about whether there is a God, multiple, none, or something else. I just want to know what the fuck happends to me after I die D:
Bman9091 7 months ago
@Bman9091 thats the razon of religion
reca97XD 7 months ago
@Bman9091 Do you remember the time before you were born? That is how it is when you die. Not bad, right? So don't be afraid.
oowoop 5 months ago
People keep focusing on this "god" thing. We need to advance our understand of the universe and try to find cures for horrid diseases, not worry about this "god" thing.
baahhhFATALITY11 7 months ago
I just never understand why everyone is talking about humans as a "perfect being so it has to be designed".
Humans are far from perfect, so if god has created us, then he fucked up.
CyrusJV 7 months ago
@CyrusJV Yeah. He fucked up then expects US to beg forgiveness for not being perfect. What a crock of shit...
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I too never understood why religion is even compared with science. have some respect @Kota3x for the world-religion scientist. without these scientists, there won't be Ivy league university. while physic doesn't provide the absolute answer to this debate, but it's the most the logical answer. by all put down the bible's side, the bible side has more holes that even top religious (bibilical) leaders can't answer.
chelinh7 7 months ago
Science simply doesnt work, there was a point in time where people believed in spontaneous generation, the creation of life out of nothing, which was later proved NOT to be true and bio-genesis came into play.(basically meaning life coming from life) Now for the Big Bang to be true, life would of had to simply form out of nothing, all evolutionists have to believe in a theory that was DISPROVEN. BIOGENESIS IS A LAW AND HIS STATEMENTS COMPLETELY CONTRADICT THIS LAW, MAKING HIS STATEMENTS FALSE
Kota3x 7 months ago
@Kota3x Science does not work eh, I suppose this message was communicated via prayer and relayed through divine intercession.
geneticepistomology 7 months ago
@Kota3x You sir are a moron. Leave the internet in shame.
TheSithOverlord666 7 months ago
@Kota3x You sir are an idiot. The origin of life on this one, infinitesimally small and insignificant, rock has nothing to do with the origin of the universe.
Your religion does you a disservice by promising you a prominence you do not deserve. No doubt this is its appeal to you.
wiskers69 6 months ago
Religion is just for weak minded cowards
haz464 7 months ago
Isn't "spirituality" just a description of our sense of self-importance in the universe?
marcmeup1 8 months ago 2
Gods were pushed from ground level to mountain tops to above the sky..they can be pushed further beyond what caused the big bang, *shrug*
xSilverPhinxx 8 months ago
So the Big Bang happened because laws of physics already excisted?
kaakatin 8 months ago
@ashlienicholex33 Well if they would give me billions of dollars for research; us religous fanatics wouldn't leave it at that. He's making millions on a theory.
NorthNorth2009 8 months ago
I'm less interested on his ideas about religion than his (SH) ideas on multiverses (many universes) and what they would be like and why. I've been fascinated by physics and how we are always learning more (though I have more of an affinity for the biological/ecological sciences) ever since I picked up his (SH) book "Universe in a Nutshell". Religion can go suck a big one...
treehugrurthluvrsupr 8 months ago
science=truth
religion=(what people want to be truth+an easy explanation for everything)
jibberjabberx 8 months ago 49
@jibberjabberx Science=(search for the truth)
audience2 8 months ago
@jibberjabberx How can "I don't know" be true?
wordword31 7 months ago
@jibberjabberx science is not equal to truth
lookatmepleasesir 6 months ago
@lookatmepleasesir
that would be
science != true
I prefer
@lookatmepleasesir != true
wiskers69 6 months ago
I never understood why religion is even compared with science...
amiyaiitkgp 8 months ago 50
@amiyaiitkgp Science is a religion.
wordword31 7 months ago
@wordword31 and Sarah Palin is intelligent
amiyaiitkgp 7 months ago
The point about "faith"
When scientists talk about things like this, they ADMIT when we are not sure about things. They do not believe it on faith, they believe the hypothesis is a possible explanation, and carry out more science to try to prove or disprove the hypothesis.
Contrast this with religious faith. They say faith is all you need, and that what they have faith in is actually correct, it doesn't require proof.
These two viewpoints are fundamentally different.
narco73 8 months ago 4
No, the fundamental forces did not come about by natural selection, which is a biological process. Physical laws came about in the first fraction of a second of the Big Bang, and took their values at random. The Big Bang in turn is a quantum vacuum fluctuation-- an instability in nothingness which can create variations in positive and negative energies.
thetruth3574 8 months ago
@thetruth3574 how can nothingness have instabilitiy
lookatmepleasesir 6 months ago
@lookatmepleasesir Please don't ask me to explain modern physics to you in 500 characters or less. Try using search terms, "universe from nothing" to find videos that could give you a better idea about what sceintists haver discovered in the last century while you weren't paying attention. If you actually care.
thetruth3574 6 months ago
@lookatmepleasesir Nothingness can have instability because energy can have positive or negative values, which usually balance out in a vacuum, but can spontanously separate into equal and opposite particles which add up to zero but amount to measureable forces when as long as they are apart. That's what our universe is, a fluke of time/space.
MRobert2l 6 months ago
@MRobert2l nothingness can not have any properties, attributes or values.
lookatmepleasesir 6 months ago
@lookatmepleasesir You either need to read a book on physics written after 1925 or stop making ignorant assertions about science.
MRobert2l 6 months ago
@MRobert2l I am not making any assertions about science. Nothing, by definition, cannot have any state, because its nothing. Anything with properties, attributes and values is something. What you're reffering to is the quantum vacuum, which is a something.
lookatmepleasesir 6 months ago
@lookatmepleasesir By your definition, "nothing" doesn't exist except as an abstract concept, like a line with "zero" width. Fine, if you want to define it that way, but that doesn't mean the quantum vacuum needs a "god" to get it started, let alone a god invented by Bronze-age Middle Eastern tribsesmen in the image of one of their chieftans. The quantum vacuum is not subject to time in the conventional sense (time flows from it, not the other way around) and therefore cannot be said to begin.
MRobert2l 6 months ago 7
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people should treat truth like they treat things... when we have many things, we are happy... so, when we have many truths (science version, A religion version, B religion version, exotic tribal beliefs, atheist version etc..) we are also happy ... lol :p :p :p
dfdtdfdx 8 months ago
Saying that m-theory is a matter of faith in the same way as religion is a load of crap! There are good reasons to take m-theory seriously.
DogBoots77 8 months ago
Imagine Pope Benedict vs Stephen Hawking live.
reichstag10 8 months ago
people should treat truth like they treat things... when we have many things, we are happy... so, when we have many truths (science version, religion version) we are also happy ... lol :p :p :p
dfdtdfdx 8 months ago
@dfdtdfdx What does religion have to do with the truth?
The various "holy books" are full of statements and claims which our investiagions of the natural world found can not possibly be true. If we apparently can't trust religion to tell us where we came from, then how can we trust it to tell us where we are going?
GluttonForSex 8 months ago
@GluttonForSex why shouldn't they? the overwhelming majority of holy books have a lot of mythological content
lookatmepleasesir 8 months ago
I think Hawking was never accepting that there is a god, instead he was talking about gods in the cosmic sense as "gods are the forces of nature and the laws of physics". Scientist are always misunderstood when they talk about gods in this sense. It's happened to Dawkins, Einstein, and many more.
dotbstudios 9 months ago
@dotbstudios hawkings was deist an Einstein was something like a deist
lookatmepleasesir 8 months ago
So people want to know why we are here? I will tell you why, we are here because the single cell organisms at the beginning of life fought damn hard to stay alive and billions upon billion of deaths, struggles, and reproducing, over the billions of years since the start of life have evolved us to what we are now, and we (all living things to date) carry that simple gene which enables us to fight for life. Some humans water it down and simple say "God did it" DISGRACEFUL!
BunWackettBuzzard 9 months ago
This man may be smart but he is in reality just stupid and a fool!
dukedase7 9 months ago
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@dukedase7 Unintentional comedy at its finest.
GluttonForSex 9 months ago
It's funny that you only have to look at the way people construct sentences, use exclamation, punctuation and question marks and caps lock to figure out if they're atheists, i.e. logical, reasoning, knowledgeable and insightful or theists, who are emotional, subjective, uneducated, lack a penetrative discernment for key arguments in discourses and are completely unaware that their argument has been nullified decades ago and yet repeat them as if they were news to everyone.
Enleuk 9 months ago
@Enleuk there are certainly plenty of atheists out there whose positions are running on a lot of emotion. Are you saying all atheists are knowledgeable, insightful and logical? because my experience on the internet has shown there are a vast, vast amount I wouldn't describe that way. I also don't see how theistic arguments have been nullified. What was it that happened decades ago which nullified their arguments?
lookatmepleasesir 8 months ago
@lookatmepleasesir Not all arguments at once, I was referring to a hypothetically specific argument. I agree that not all atheists are intelligent or know what they're talking about, but just to take an example, there was a survey in the U.S. showing that atheists and agnostics had higher IQ and knew more about the bible than Christians. Might've been two separate surveys. Most irrational, angry atheists are the result of the unbelievable stupidity theists greet them with online.
Enleuk 8 months ago
I love how religious people quote their texts like they are fact.
jamieownsuok 9 months ago
MCneun, you're blatantly wrong. First and most obvious, you said our universe COULD NOT have been created by accident but in your very example you COULD pick the number the desired beans. Secondly, the universe had to come out some way and the way it did is no less probable than any other way it could have been. Life is only so astounding to you because your the one living it, to the universe it's no more or less astounding than anything else within it.
GL073CH 9 months ago
@GL073CH actually, it is highly improbable that this universe came out of sheer inconscience and chance if it is the only universe
lookatmepleasesir 8 months ago
Why is there religion? Wait until the point that we find a bearded fellow smoking a pipe and discussing how the next Universe should look....until that time there is no compelling evidence whatsoever for a God or Gods.....instead of spending your time preaching etc, why not spend that time to help pursue the 'How' scientific question so we can probe the 'Why', instead of battling an argument & holding 'God', a fabricated ancient idea that hasnt died....move on & help with our scientific movement
therealurema 9 months ago
My God is science and reason.
wesj1989 9 months ago 2
@wesj1989 so you're a theist?
lookatmepleasesir 6 months ago
The problem here is that we cannot perceive that something was just there. Hence we need a God.
Danjeli 9 months ago
What Hawking has done now is start an attack on religion instead of trying to prove his scientific theories. By insulting religion he has made himself look like an old man mad at the religious community.
PAwrestler4life 9 months ago
@PAwrestler4life I wouldn't necessarily say that. Hawking simply says that M-theory makes god unnecessary! He never said that god doesn't exist. He's simply using rationality and mathematics to say that maybe our universe is not the only one. Just like the Earth in the universe, our universe very well could be one of infinitely many universes within the bulk.
FallofDarkness55 9 months ago 2
@PAwrestler4life Prof. Hawking hasn't "insulted" anybody. He has simply given his opinion and backed it up with solid reasoning. He has been very respectful to everyone. It is religious reactionaries who are being insulting. They are thin skinned becasue they know that their superstitions cannot stand up to debate using scientific standards. They behave as though it is an outrage just to think differently than they do, but they no longer have the Inquisition to enforce their prejudices.
thetruth3574 9 months ago 2
@thetruth3574 Excellent summary.
GluttonForSex 9 months ago
M-theory is not a leap of faith. It's what makes sense! The Religious cosmological model looks something like this: (God)-->(Big Bang)--------->humans, with a lot going on in between the big bang and humans. Looking at it from this perspective god must not love us because we are insignificant within our universe. Whereas multiple universes does make sense. It's compatible with our insignificance within our own universe. Stephen Hawking is right! Humans created God!
FallofDarkness55 9 months ago
WHAT'S WITH THE MUSLIM COMMENT ON TOP???
THERE IS NO MOHAMED. NO VIRGINS IN HEAVEN.
THERE ARE ONLY DUMB BRAINWASHED ISLAMISTS WHO CAN'T GRASP ANY LOGICAL CONCEPT
BY FAR ISLAM IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS PLANET
gogoasacenusie 9 months ago 2
@gogoasacenusie
you are the biggest piece of shit you dumb fuck.
you are a fucking monkey you dicklicker. if you dont respect other people....there are about 1.5 billions of muslims in the world and you think that you are smarter than all these people then come suck my dick, and take your mother with you piece of bitch.
MCneun 9 months ago
@MCneun,
"And then, Mohamed did the world a favour and killed himself."
[Al'alah-the great cocksocker: 69]
Qur'shit
1.5 billion muslims? In this case, i think evolution theory is wrong. The world is actually involuting. No human being can embrace such a catastrophical garbage as Islam only brainless animals
gogoasacenusie 9 months ago 2
@gogoasacenusie Fuck all your family members you son of a bitch, fuck all your living and dead family members
and ill piss on you granparents ashes you dead shit. fuck your life bitch.
MCneun 9 months ago
@MCneun Great arguement there MCneun.... I'm sure your imaginary God is very proud of you
SicAltusIsVulnero 9 months ago
How did the claptrap of two lobotomised idiots get rated so highly?
No one created the big bang, you fool, that's the whole point. There is no why with these things only conformity, uniformity, necessity. We are in one of possibly billions of other co-existing universes.
stig781 9 months ago
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21] Had We sent down this Qur'an on a mountain, verily,
thou would have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of Allah, such are the similitudes which We propound to men, that they may reflect.
22] Allah is He, than whom there is no other god― Who knows (all things) both secret and open; He Most Gracious, Most Merciful. [Al Hashr]
MCneun 9 months ago 2
23] Allah is He, than whom there is no other god― the sovereign, the Holy One,
the Source of Peace (and Perfection). the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety,
the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to Allah!
(High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him.
MCneun 9 months ago
IF STEPHEN HAWKINGS SAYS THERE IS NO GOD THEN I BELIEVE IT BECAUSE HAWKINGS HAS SCIENCE ON HIS SIDE. GOD HAS A BURNING BUSH LOL
699backstab 9 months ago
hahah, look at the idiots with the top rated coments. LOL; you are the ones with the burdon of proof. If you think god exists then prove it
gulbirk 10 months ago
@MCeun yes there is a question to be answered before the big bang what happened. Unfortunately we can only take the evidence that our solar system has provided to us and use this to put together an educated guess or presumption on what WE think might have happened in the beginning. Then we use physics to prove our presumption. However we know that a big bang theory happened. Beyond that is what WE are trying to figure out know.
NJUEX3 10 months ago
A fact that is true and one day we will be able to prove it. Life form outside of our universe must exist. You people read what has been given for you to read. provide more information
NJUEX3 10 months ago
its funny that you people keep quoting scriptures but you have no proof nor do you have proof where ur GOD or what ever you would like to call him has come from. Even he has said everything has been made from something. I find it odd that he was always there! It just contradicts what he states and expects humans to believe. I believe there is something out there just not what you guys believe. You people need that in your life to survive. The book of all answers cant answers where he is from
NJUEX3 10 months ago
-Do? not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
[Al Anbiya: 30]
Holy Qur'an
MCneun 10 months ago 2
@MCneun Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
TheStyx44 9 months ago
He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days[other measuring unit] - and His Throne was over the waters - that He might try you, which? of you is best in conduct. But if thou wert to say to them, "Ye shall indeed be raised up after death", the Unbelievers would be sure to say, "This is nothing but obvious sorcery!"
[Qur'an: Hud: 7]
MCneun 10 months ago 2
God! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth....
....He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme
[Qur'an: Al Baqara: 255]
MCneun 10 months ago 2
@MCneun Its little wonder that the peoples who have been infected with the mental disease known as Islam have degenerated into murderous fanatics. You exemplify the mindset most vividly.
thetruth3574 9 months ago
@MCneun Allah was created by humans, my friend. Not the other way around.
GluttonForSex 9 months ago
@MCneun "God! There is no god"
*Fixed.
JayJayAbels 9 months ago
My belief is that OUR god as we know him was created to give HUMANS a way to die peacefully and to assure them a peace full resting place. God does not speak about life on other solar systems. Why I could not imagine that life could not find a way to exist in all of the lights years of travel in our the solar system. Everywhere on earth some type of life form does exist. This just leads me to believe that somewhere life out there does exist.
NJUEX3 10 months ago 2
Well if everything came or was created by someone or something than you have to ask where did God come come from? I do not understand why people believe god was always there, but the universe could not have always been at its earliest form. Myself I believe that there is something far greater than what we can reveal today. The complication of the Solar system cannot rest alone on one creator.
NJUEX3 10 months ago 2
I like the example of one scientist, but dont remember his name, and he said: Put 10 beans on your pocket and before label them with numbers from 1 to 10.
And try at first to pick one desired number, its difficult,
Try at second to pick two desired numbers one after another, its more difficult
Try at third to pick three desired numbers from 10 beans, more difficult
and more.....
And you will see that a complexe universe such like this and the human just cannot be created by accident!!!!
MCneun 10 months ago 2
@MCneun Your example of picking beans at random is not at all like the real world. In reality, there is a range of characteristics which are suitable to any pattern, those that work will last and continue replicating. The closer the form is to ideal for that range, the longer it will continue. Once an element works, it allows other elements to fall into place and build further. Your lame example would never fool a scientist. A religious fanatic maybe, but no one pays attention to them.
thetruth3574 9 months ago
@thetruth3574 is this how the fundamental laws of the universe came about?
lookatmepleasesir 8 months ago
@lookatmepleasesir QUOTE: "is this how the fundamental laws of the universe came about? "
No, I was describing the process of biological evolution through natural selection. The fundamental laws of physics took their values at random at the moment of the Big Bang. There is undoubtedly a MORE fundamental set of principles underlying the Big Bang process which has yet to be understood. But all the complexity we observe in the universe came from the interaction of a few simple forces.
thetruth3574 6 months ago
steven hawking thinks hes the ultimate smartest man on earth eh!
does he think that a God who created all this, he has not the knowledge to hide Himself???? hes just a joke and the most scientist are a bunch of jokes.
God created the universe, He created time, He created space, the dimensions.
and a fuckin human thinks there is no God!!!
OK WHO CREATED THAT BING BANG BALL BEFORE, FROM WHERE CAME THE MATERIALS???FIRST I WANT THIS QUESTION ANSWERED BY THE SCIENTISTS
MCneun 10 months ago 2
@MCneun This is a joke, correct?
xIJOS3RAMOSIx 10 months ago
@xIJOS3RAMOSIx no your mother is a big joke
MCneun 10 months ago
@MCneun Thanks for proving my point.
xIJOS3RAMOSIx 10 months ago
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MCneun 10 months ago
@MCneun Why do you want scientists to answer this question when you have already answered this in your own mind..the answers will be revealed soon but I doubt if you have the acumen to understand them.
nicksynnz 10 months ago
@MCneun LMAO Troll. Go read the book, just because your happy in your conceited little bubble, the one where you think YOU are special, doesn't mean those who actually care about the truth and searching for it courageously like scientists are "jokers"... They are brave enough to stare the TRUTH in the face even if it isn't comforting to think we are not SPECIAL or designed for a purpose... go back to your box.
SkepticMagician 10 months ago
@MCneun you want answers that have already been given but aren't prepared to look at or not intellligent enough to comprihend, with that I'm not saying you're dumb but Advanced Theoretical Physics, isn't something you can understand with common sense
question if god is the only thing not created, where was he before he started creating?
Toudiyama 10 months ago
@Toudiyama Thats something a human mind cant understand and in Qur'an God says that same, that the human mind cannot perceive God, because hes from Nour[ a light], which the human being would never see that or detect. God says always he was always without beginning, and says He will be always without an end. because God created time, before it didnt exist.
Einstein didnt believe in black holes, now they believe. You dont believe the God, the time will come and you will believe God!
MCneun 10 months ago
@Toudiyama i mean you cant see a fucking blue lights or infrared lights, and the ear is limited and cant hear all the frequences and you want to perceive the Creator...???you know that the human isnt the ultimate creature, yet you want to describe the heavens and the dimensions how they function???first you must see all and detect more unknown dimensions or lights, to try to expain something, but these scientic bitches, with 100 years of knowledge about universe are sure that there is no God
MCneun 10 months ago
@MCneun you can't see blue light?? you must mean ultra violet, doesn matter anyhow as we have equipment that can
In science they explain as best as they can with the technology that is there at the time, science can build on itself the more they find out the more they will be able to find out, your solution we can't complete see so do not look
will just mean we will ever see, something people like you would likely prefer
Toudiyama 10 months ago
The positive of the scientist are, they are trying to explain the world. If there was no scientists i would probably not really believe for example this following vers.
Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
[Al Anbiya: 30]
but the negative is, because they say God could not exist, even the today's science is in one's infancy.
MCneun 10 months ago
@MCneun scientist like SH say no god is needed to explain how the universe got about.
why infer a suppernatural entity when there are perfectly fine natural explanations
Again I'n not interested in Qurán verses, even if you think they contain scientific knowledge ( which I've being seen debunked many of times) or miracles, claiming things weren't know yet at the time even though they were centruries before islam
Toudiyama 10 months ago