Take a look at the Law that governs Islam - Sharia Law - it is an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE! No sensible, decent & respectable man or woman would ever allow himself or herself to be subject to the Archaic & BRUTAL Sharia Law. Women being whipped! People being buried up to their waist and then Stoned to DEATH - not the way to treat a human being! This HORROR called Sharia Law Must Be ABOLISHED from this Earth! It is NOT the law of God but rather, it is a Corrupt set of rules created by ignorant men.
If all prophets gathered under one tent, there shall be nothing but PEACE and harmony. Hopefully their followers will learn to act like them. AND, those, who are free thinkers, can learn to live free...free of dogma, sarcasm, bigotry, and hatred.
I have a news for you. No sire, you do not have to wait for hell to burn you. You are already on fire! Your hatred and bigotry is combusting you. I can smell your flesh chirping in the internal flames you have set up within you.
I know what the likes of you have done with Jesus (my Love). But, no sir, this time it won't happen. It is too late. The Almighty has other plans.
i think muhammad the pedophle in hell burning for his crimes against humanity and child aish.....its u who is consumed by hatred and bigotry......there is nothing your cock sucking allah can do to me other than sucking my cock....but u know that.
@tezol21 Good to hear you're privy to the Almighty's plans, Tezo. As to 'internal combustion', it seems to me YOUR mouth 'runneth over' from Qur'an-inspired 'firy' rhetoric! :) You're giving yourself away!
I really understand your point against Islam. It is the only powerful entity that has masterfully decoded your kind of people. It has left no ambiguity to wonder about.
Islam's message to non-believers is to be at least a free spirit. Free of arrogance, bigotry and racism.
tezol..if islam is powerful (your claim) why would it need MURDER to ensure people stay in it.....it relies on you being TOO SCARED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF and even koran proves muslims are lied to
and why dont you SPECIFY what you claim are lies re islam...remember we do know its dirty history, can read the man made comic book koran & see on a daily basis what islam causes re the obscene levels of human misery/denial of human rights
I have discussed with you your blind prejudice against Islam before.
Islam is an idea, I call it The Truth and you are free to call it whatever your mind perceives. History of human being is full of garbage. Islam is part of human legacy just like the road you take to go from Paris to Barcelona. You may focus on the destination OR you may get distracted and go ASTRAY. The choice is yours....and the choice is ours. That is why we are on EARTH. But some people want to play god!
Pr-male, Islam for me because my heart trembles for it. You have choice to believe in another way AS LONG AS WE DO NOT TRANSGRESS ON EACHOTHER's RIGHTS. This is guaranteed by Quran:
2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.
Do not blame idiots action on Islam.
Choose Rumi's way not Bin Laden's. Choice is yours!
I LAUGH you talk about koran 'guaranteeing' when it has ZILCH credibility...it even has errors in it
prove an allah before you dribble such brainwashed immature junk as allah knows all things...theres MUCH islam shows your allah didnt have a clue about LOL
re no compulsion...perhaps youve forgotten how your sicko prick mohammed INSTRUCTED those who dont believe/turn away be MURDERED
Yes, "love" makes one humble outside but strong inside.
BTW, I do not worship a God which I need to prove by my brain. my God does not fit in brain but in heart! I can not dwell much on that. One needs to rely on sensible experiences that are more real than the world we see by our eyes.
Open the eyes of your heart to see the essence of existence; to see the unseen and feel the eternity;
Hope you do not use pager signal to communicate TV programming!
what causes you to be TOO SCARED to acquire knowledge/face reality
tell us why your allah evidently didnt know about northern regions when setting rules for PAGAN ritual of ramadam...or what the result would be re massively high incidence of sexual deviance in ummah DUE TO unhealthy unnatural repression/segregaration/forbidding of normal personal interaction
Well, I'm hoping that you do not deny human instinct to worship some sort of entity(!). Take, for example yourself and let me know who you worship (or modernly speaking "love").
@tezol21 It is true that the Quran says "Let there be no compulsion in religion" and in few instances it evens praises Ahl Al kitab (Christians and Jews) but that is dishonest because that's not the true essence of Islam when you know that most of the Quran is dedicated to cursing, dehumanizing and threatening with severe punishment in the afterlife the non-believers and to a greater extent the Jews it even refers to them as pigs and monkeys.
H'mmmmm....Not sure what to make of your take on Islam. You are saying that Quran says something BUT you can explain it's ESSENCE better than what it says!!!!!! Can you look into your logic? WHat you are basically saying is what you UNDERSTNAD from Islam. Your understanding is processed by your predetermined results you like to draw. So, you, in a way, order your brain to come up with JUSTIFICATION to serve your goal. EXACTLY like those who use Islam to further their selfish cause!
@tezol21 It's true that my understanding use to be processed by my predetermined results when I was a Muslim, as a child I was groomed to believe that Islam was perfect and it was sacrilegious to question or criticize the Quran or Mohammed. One day however I started reading the Quran in a more objective and rational fashion and suddenly the spell of blind faith was lifted and all I could see was ignorance, nonsense and primitive thinking, it is that simple.
you say "It's true that my understanding use to be processed by my predetermined results when I was a Muslim,"
Whell, the same metrics go with your inverted feelings you have after using your "rational fashion"....It's a trick that our brain plays and we need to be careful about it. What helps is "The heart". Heart prevents brain from "FOOLING" us when the brain is commanded by our desires.
Hope this is clear.
I advice you to see the goodness....read Rumi and enjoy life!
@tezol21 Actually "Heart" as you put it is what leads us to blind faith and distorts our thinking; when I read Surat Annisae which clearly states that a man:
-can marry up to 4 wives
-inherits twice what a woman does
-A man can beat his wife
My brain is not fooling me into thinking that Islam is unjust to women, but rather your "Heart" fools you into accepting flimsy explanations to justify that injustice.
The pious men who are loved by The Almighty and versa do NOT engage in any of those deals.
This is the propaganda that your brain is fooling you to accept and propagate.
I have yet to find out a good muslim to have 4 wives or beat them. In the meantime, serial-killing, domestic violence and sex trading or XM affairs are products of modern selfish animals I'm ashamed to call human.
Inheritence makes 100% sense in Islamic society where women have no financial obligation in family.
@tezol21 Whom are you trying to convince and fool with your pathetic, dishonest and ignorant defense of the primitive ways of Islam? Yourself?
Do you live under a rock or are you simply in denial?
1-Many women in Muslim countries nowadays have to work to contribute financially partially or totally to the family
2-In most Muslim countries domestic violence and sex trading or XM affairs are just as rampant as they are in the West, plus those Muslim countries are very oppressive.
So, you really want to INTENTIONALLY(?) close you ears to what I say?
I said Islamic societies. I do not consider Islamic countries a ISLAMIC SOCIETY is a sense that islamic rules are observed. Can you understand my point?
On # 2, it is the same as answer as #1. But, believe me those social desease are infused by selfish men and have much higher rate than SO CALLED islamic countries.
So, you didn't answer: Why these desease exist outside islamic countries? Is it Islam's faults???
@tezol21 1-It's not that I am closing my ears to what you are saying it's just that we are discussing Islam in the real world and your discussing Islam in fantasyland
2-You should be more selective when saying "believe me" it might work with people who suffer the same delusions as yours but otherwise it makes you come across as arrogant and ignorant.
3-And stop trying to shift the discussion to what is wrong with the West when the discussion is about what is wrong with Islam? It's dishonest.
You did not say it but everyone has a God. Some people have their EGO as God. Some create God in their brain and then ask that "synthetic" God to help them with their problems. Some deny having God and think they just grew out of cabbage patch and claim to be God.
The God (as a being) is a preliminary concept. Even the satinists believe in it. Some say...well..I am baffled...whether there is a God or NOT....and they dwell on it.
@tezol21 How can I put it in words that fit your mentality? So far I don't have the need for a fictional character to guide my life and lend me its imaginary support, but if I ever do it would be at least a fictional character above humans in its nature and that eliminates the Muslim and Judeo Christian god which bears all the marks of a very insecure, chauvinist and sadistic psychopath, so it is no surprise that its followers hate each other and everybody else.
Faith is a delicate matter. You say "no surprise that its followers hate each other...."
The true believers can ONLY love The Almighty's creation, including self and other humans.....This love flows from the love of The One. The one's who hate self and eachother and others are those who use religion as a tool to further their perverted understanding of the faith.
...and you say " I don't have the need for a fic....". Yes it is your EGO talking...Do you really think U R K.P. Doll!
@tezol21 I am not an atheist because I think that I am better than others, I am atheist simply because it is what makes sense to me and gives meaning and peace to my life, had I found those things in religion I wouldn't have left it, it is that simple. Would I recommend atheism to others? No, people should be where they feel right as long as they don't break the law in any way or oppress others as a result of their belief, and promoting atheism is just as wrong as promoting religion.
you say " I am atheist simply because ...... gives meaning and peace to my life"
For sure, you can find equilibrium in life without having God in mind but you have settled down to 'Nothing" which is "Matter". We have many live material beings that are in peace and equilibrium around us. Take a rock for instance. It is in total peace and slowly depreciating in it's state of matter.
I agree with most of what you said about "No compulsion" in belief - assured by God broken by men!
@tezol21 As for me settling for nothing, let's look at my options;
-Devote my life to a falsehood and forgo commonsense to seek consolation and peace of mind in an imaginary God in the hope that my imaginary soul would be with imaginary virgins in an imaginary place with imaginary rivers of wine and honey and where imaginary beans and lentils grow (how very Middleastern!)
-Use my conscience and commonsense to guide my life and have my imaginary soul suffer horrifically in imaginary hell
I see nothing wrong by promoting what we believe as a proposal AS LONG AS WE PRACTICE WHAT WE SAY. My God created us to believe in or deny and you are a live example of this undeniable righ that God gave us. But, some selfish men are making mess on earth in the name of God creating ugly images of belief.
Then, there are some beautiful men among us giving us hope and emit scent of The Almighty.
It is our choice to look at the Glass as 1/2 full or 1/2 empty! Can't deny 1/2 full.
@tezol21 Blaming the wrongs of religion on bad people only proves that it is useless in improving bad peoples character and only puts innocent people, seeking consolation in an imaginary god, at the mercy of religious crooks such as Imams, Priests, Rabbis, Preachers, etc...
Now I am not saying it's wrong to be a person faith, if having an imaginary companion is the only way you can go through life's ups and downs then you are right where you need to be, but I just don't need one for now.
Human brain is a complex system. It goes thru pretty extravagant process of compiling information to yield certain output (decision). The process is usually picked based on "The state of mind" we are in. The state of mind is a result of many complex factors itself.
Faith comes in and tries to straighten up our state of mind to yield GOOD results. Defining GOOD needs a value system that is developed by The creator, otherwise it would be selfish, immature and incomplete...........
Imaginary God is NOT what I'm after. I told you that The God made of my mind is not worth my acceptance.
The Almighty is NOT imaginary, Why?
Easy; The Almighty can be felt thru sensible experiences. We just need to train ourselves to understand it. It is like listening to AM radio and expecting to see HD video.
To feel sensible experiences, one needs to open receptors of heart. If I believe in duality (a prelim concept), I can draw parallel between physical and spiritual senses.
@tezol21 I have to admit that I lack the skills of entering the realm of the imaginary no matter how wide I open the receptors of my heart, I have no doubt that they are people like you who are capable of feeling the almighty's presence, and they are those who can see and talk to Jesus, others still can see ghosts, leprechauns, etc... It must be a question of fine tuning my receptors to the right frequency but I just can't do it.
My co-habitat on Earth....That is fine with me if you acknowledge lacking tools of trait.
My advice is....if you are genuine in WHATEVER you believe, you then STOP going around and actively propagating ill-will against the people you can not relate to or the ideology that puzzles you.
If you do not believe in, at least be a free man....free of hate, bigotry, racism and arrogance. As a basic human being we need to stay away from these traits.
@tezol21 I appreciate your efforts in trying to defend Islam, it's a hopeless endeavor but I give you credit for giving it your best and for lasting this long in a conversation that I know must have been very distasteful for you.
You are free to believe whatever makes you happy but once you enter into a debate in defense of your belief then you are responsible for what you say and people respond to what you say accordingly.
@GODandPEACE WOW! wow, wow, wow, this made me cry. im not kidding u. i have never read a statement so powerful that describes how i feel like u did rit now. i have tried also but i just cant, cant do it! I LOVE JESUS To MUCH!!! May JESUS be w/ u. and never NEVER dought no matter what. again WOW!!!!!!
@tezol21 It is pathetic that educated people like you can't distinguish good from bad and right from wrong and have to be told what is what. Most people all over the world have a sense of decency and morality regardless of their beliefs; these are Universal values that we as humans, armed with intelligence and commonsense, have opted for in order to live in harmony and peace with each other and we try to pass them on to our children.
Also, I'm glad that you at least see a DIFFERENCE between our MENTALITY! It is obvious that, of course, you will judge your mentality to be superior than me and I do the same. It is also fair to consider an ARBITRATOR to fairly judge who is right and who is wrong (relatively speaking). Now, who do you think The Judge should be?
Of course we believe The Strong is The right (relatively speaking)......well.....The question is: who is The Strong in absolute terms?
@tezol21 You said that "we need to consider an arbitrator to judge who is right and who is wrong". Who/what is going to be the Arbitrator?
-You can't mean a human being because that would only mean that you can't even trust your own judgment in making decisions regarding personal matters
-And you can't mean a god because knowing that I don't believe gods, because that would only mean that blind faith has distorted your thinking and your rationality
I surely don't trust my judgment. The best I can do is use my brain decide and ask The Almighty for enlightenment. We are all enslaved to self-interest and many other forces within that drive us. That is why we have burps like "Oops!", "holly ...!" and others.
Now, the 2nd issue is yours and surely not mine. AND.....that was my point. Rationally speaaking, we need a super all knowing being that can justly judge among us. If you can pinpoint that entity in this world, let me know.
@tezol21 There is nothing rational about "we need a super all knowing being that can justly judge among us" it is simply wishful thinking resulting from blind faith in a load of nonsense, ignorance and primitive thinking started by a charlatan about 1400 years ago, but I don't expect you to be rational when discussing your faith because to do so would shatter all those delusions you have built in your mind since your childhood indoctrination and you would probably be lost.
OK u can be for the right to change ur religion but then WHY do u enter in political aspect of wars namely against Islam and muslims saying they kill civilians while ur secular countries kill more civilians than muslims ?!?! like 1 mill iraqi children etc; its like u sell urself as being unbiased than crap it with - only muslim bashing and not secular armies and wars ?! thats why ur not honest
on the contrary Islam destroys humanity and will decent human beings into terrrorist zombie.....u and i know that...we have seen so man times in mumbai,london,new york,beslan......
I just wanted to give you a wake up call. this would be my last advice to you:
Yes, add to your list the genocide in Croatia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Afghanistan, Iraq, Ireland, AND DO NOT FORGET THE BABIES PERISHED IN PALESTINIAN SCHOOLS.
Every religion has some idiot outliers who take advantage of the ideology and do crimes against humanity. Islam is not immune to this neither just like Christianity, Judaism, or ATHEISM. They all create god in their brain and serve it - SELF.
@tezol21 Aren't you forgetting that in the case of Islam it's not just some 'idiot outliers'. Read about the self-styled prophet's murderous exploits in the Q, the hadiths and Ibn Ishaq/Ibn Hisham.
hey is it just me or isnt it weird that they hold press conferences or watever whnever sum muslim converts to christianity? i mean u dun c press conferences over ppl who converted to Islam. i mean if u dont have faith in Islam. u don't. its ur personal choice. and all these death threats...are they 4 real. have their been any murders coz sum1 converted. 4 real...show me proof b4 u start typin'
REALLY ?! all the ex-muslims i've ever seen or heard of ALWAYS have to be arab or from arab descent? hmph...let me guess why...because ignorant people actually believe the middle east only has muslims. It's sooo sad. To the trained eye, it's obvious he is a fake. ahh. Show me other nationalities of non muslims PLEASE because just because you are arab does NOT mean you were/are Muslim. This is their way of trickking you. They hold the accent, they have the look, haha it's madd pathetic .
it`s as hard for me as it is for you then i guess. because people leave islam, that's a fact. it happens. but there are people whom haven't ever been muslim that deliberatly go on camera and bash islam and lie about being a part of it. that itself is a fact. & you are entitled to your opinion as i am to the facts.
Truth speaks for itself. Nonetheless, if Islam was such a death cult, why is it the fastest growing religion in the world? Why after 9/11 and so called "proof" we Muslims are terrorists, that American born, Caucasian with blond hair and blue eyes accepted Islam? Why are Americans if they are so afraid of this "death cult" becoming Muslim? but of course, you never hear that. look up the facts for yourself.
oh dear - this bull again. - Islam is growing, because its followers dont use family planning - meaning large families who due to western medicine are not dying during infancy or childbirth. AS to the numbers of converts to islam - many more leave than convert. I suggest you look up the facts instead - on a secular scientific website.
If family planning WAS the case, then Catholicism would be dominating the world, I assure you. It has nothing to do with family planning because the majority of Muslims who converted that had such a great impact on the number of Muslims in America, occurred after 9/11. These were grown folks converting to Islam. The reason for its growing is because it`s the truth; it KEEPS on growing because the followers are having large families. THAT`s a fact. THank you.
LOL - look at the number of catholics vs protestants. You have just eloquently proved my point. Just remember that catholic countries tend to be freer, and now have family planning services, much to the chagrin of the church. This is why africa is so important for the catholics, with their message that codoms cause aids.
sigh* maybe if i KNEW what your POINT was , because you were talking about the reasons for increase of Muslims, now ...my reply was exactly what I implied and was a direct reply to your comment. I literally have NO idea what your talking about in your recent comment . . .what does AFRICa, CONDOMNS, and AIDS have to do with what we were talking about ?! don`t try to prove another off topic point please. Thank you.
Our benchmark for The Truth can not be the size of it's followers! This is just so rational, correct?
Islam is in the business of swaying away the covers from our hearts to see The Truth. As Wayne Dyer says: You need to believe it to see it. Once we take that Truth pill, The Lover will embrace us, take our hand and The Journey begins. It is really a matter of heart. HOWEVER, I agree, some people create their God and follow what they create. I call it FICTIONARY GOD.
on the contrary Islam is afraid of truth..that is why evil Islam will murder anyone that leaves....islam is like an evil cult....once u try to leave....it will hunt and kill u........after all...evil islam is "religion of 'peace".....ha ha
@tezol21 Venomous hatred of Jews, war to collect protection money (Q9:29), Mo cursing his aunt and uncle and 'revealing' that he, on second thoughts, can have more than 4 wives? What pill have you been taking? It sure ain't a Truth Pill! :)
What do you think happened to Moses and Jesus? Go ahead blame them on Muhammad...but at some point you have to take the reality pill!
The point is, Islam has decoded the evil and it really hurts the evil to be exposed!!!!!!!!!
Let's not be slave to some political agenda. Live free...free of ignorance, arrogance, bigotry, racism and stop character assassination. It does not work anymore. Your lies are the best propaganda for Islam.
no no no.... face it my friend, why muslims cannot accept that muslim leave islam, what's the point of coming in these council if you're not exmuslim. it's like coming to a soccer game and you're not interested in sport. these are exmuslims, and many are in uk, and converted to christianity, because they assimilated to the dominant English culture.
Unfortunately, With your "PHD" You can not hold a Conversation. You can not do a simple Search. I doubt that you even have High School. At least educated people can hold a conversation and do Unbiased Ignorant Search, By the way At Least I know which rock To go BAck to.But you are Very Lost. I am realy Feeling Bad for you. I do not tell Lies, I am talking to you with Proofs and FActs, You talk to me With Ignorance and Hate. This guy is an Iraqi Christian..I know the Accent..
I know who he is now, He is an Iraqi Christian that is pretending to be a muslim.. This guy is not even a Muslim from the beggining.. He is a Chaldian, Or Arab Christian that is just lying.. Man Get out of here.
Most of you so called westerners live and rule by islamic sharia Laws.Muslims taught you Contract writting,Ombudsmen.. and so ON. Our american law is derived from English law which derived most of it from Sharia Law during muslim Spain.People enough with changing the facts. Search Wikipedia and read about Sharia Law, and Ombudsmen.Our golden AGe was your midevil Times.You have adapted to our laws and then after our colapse injected your hateful segregated thinking and stole our Moral.Stop hate
My Friend, I think you dont know English, You are just an Ignorant Kiddo. I am very Educated. Did you really search Ombudsmen, Did you search Sharia Law In Wikipedia.. You know what Wikipedia is, or I guess you are so Ignorant and Uneducated that you can not do thatEnglish Law Was stolen from Islamic Law, How about Contract Writting, Your Europian Evil Times were Muslim Golden Times.We Invented Medicin, Algebra,Chemistry. Do a real Scientific Research and then come back to me.What is Ombudsment
If this guy thinks the British 'Trade Union' movement is gonna help out he's sadly mistaken. The TUC enjoys a shared ethos with the British State, and secularism is regarded with hostility by the ruling establishment. The poor dudes fucking deluded.
What is Qadi AlQudat, Dont Say Islam never Abides, We taught you free speech. Search Ombdudsmen and see where you got it from. From Second Islamic Caliph. Omar.Jews were killed after the colapse of Islamic Spain.Read the History.Some stuff can not be hidden.Your hitler killed all faiths. Muslim countries have millions of Christians and Jews that still live until today.. so go search the facts and tell me..
u see how great religion is islam.many people change religion but only muslims who change religion r focused.its proved that islam is real religion .behind these people there is money and jewish media
ISLAM is the most BARBARIC, EVIL, and DIABOLICAL CULT in the world. It is a CANCER to modern society. HATS OFF to these ex-MOSLEMS for leaving this EVIL CULT.
ISLAM is the most VIRULENT and VIOLENT CULT in the world. It's sole purpose is to convert the whole world to ISLAM. I bet a lot of people will LEAVE this EVIL CULT if given a choice.
Unfortunately, MOST Moslems don't have that choice. And why? Because ISLAM is a REPRESSIVE CULT that can ONLY keep its flock together through FORCE.
I am not lying, these are facts. You tell us the truth you were never a muslim... but just lying...Many non Muslims become muslims because they find the truth in it. These are the real people that actually get to read and search for the truth, not ignorant like you.. I guess your 12 Years old... Big Liar..
We live In the USA and have a choice to become what we wnt, but never hada muslim convert to any other religioun.You have to understand islam from the inside, not just what yousee in the media.Islam Ruled the world and many parts became muslims peacefully such as indonisia,china, and so on.only barbaric societies were by the sword.Under islam your grandfathers lived but under hitler they were killed.under islamic spain they lived.after that they were massacared, and many jews went to Syria.
Idiots that you call are you fellow writters in Wikipedia that are acutally in the web go to google and search, ( Sharia Law in Wiki).. If you know how to search and read it for yourself.... You are very very ignorant.. Go search omdusmen... Do your homework then come back and talk to me..The way you talk is really Ignorant and Uncivilized.
You are very Ignorant. I am not telling yo uto believe me.. I am telling you to go search it and tell me.I am not giving you the Quran, I am giving you Wikipedia.... So search the Facts and Then Come back and tell me who is an Idiot...Us Muslims are very very proud and will challenge any one but liars, Or Ignorant Racist People
All this is due to "WEAKNESS OF FAITH & PATIENCE IN THEIR HEARTS".. Deep down their hearts, there is still "A VOICE" telling them that they are taking a WRONG path and I am sure they know this.. I am not here to judge others, GOD is THE JUDGE.. All Ex-Muslims, Look deep in your Hearts and listen carefully to The Voice which will take you to the Right Path.. Islam is the SOLUTION TO HUMANITY & OUR PROBLEMS we all know it.. "INNALLAH MA'AS-SABIREEN", GOD is with those who Have Patience (in Him)..
hozzeyni,where do you call this brave and honest people to - to commit murder against non-muslims, just as your "prophet" Muhhamad did? To commit pedophelie and rape of helpless children and women as Muhammad did? To hate all non muslims and worship bloodthirsty moon god Allah? Deep down in your heart you know that you worship satan. True God GIVES LIFE, the satan Allah - wants take life. He loves blood, cruelty, hate and fear. Let true God to help you!
and ya hw bout the Gretest Scientist Albert Einstin! Let me check in the Quran there aer more ,So i request pls revert and go to saudi arabia there is the highest quality of life.The land of Prophet Mohhamed(PBUM).
It is sad to see how people hate Islam this much. And so Heart Breaking to see a muslimah leaving her Faith. I pray for you to come back to Islam before it is too Late. It is an Unforgivable sin by God. What people don't know is, "The world is just a Test.. Be Good, Do justice to Yourself and Others, Have Patience in GOD.. inshALLAH You will be Rewarded, thats a Promise.
appearance, language, behaveiour everything transformed by leavin islam at once. From darkness into light. I am not talking about this guy in the video but my impression in general of ex muslims. WHY??
To answer ICTYS1's question. One reason is the freedom in no longer having to defend the indefensible. The other reason is that there is so much hatred and violence in Islam and the cognitive dissonance that comes from trying to deny that while at the same time embracing it - You know how Nietzsche said if you look too long into the Abyss the Abyss will look back into you? That's the case with Islam, the evil and hatred starts to become part of you, leaving Islam frees you from all that.
incredible... we in europe do not know what islam really is, muslims promote their religion totally wrong, why? Is this because they do not know by themselves or do they really want to deceive other cultures, religions etc.
Some Muslims dont know anything about Islam, especially Western converts who've been fed a sugar-coated version that is as far from the truth as east from west (pardon the pun). But many others DO know and hide it. That is acceptable in Islam since Muslims can deceive kaffirs in Dar al-Harb. There are only two realms in Islamic thinking: Dar al-Islam (realm of Islam) and Dar al-Harb (realm of War). Muslims must work towards the goal of making the entire world Dar al-Islam by any means possible.
yea dude, i had exactly the same impression!!! It is amazing, incredible, SO VISIBLE difference!!! I wish there was a way to bring all muslims into light. Unfortunately it isn't possible, and they will all have to live and die as satan's slaves, killing and spreading hater and terror all around the world.
Did you notice how absolutely determinate to stay blind they are? When you try to argue with them, they never listen, but starts insult and threat you in mindless fury, deny obvious facts and come up with some really NAIVE stories, like one dude was convincing me that jews kidnapped 80000 Romanians for sex, or that in Europe people can legally get married with animals. People here doesnt realize who we let into Europe, they think everybody are so nice and friendly and only want to live in peace.
EXCELLENT group! SUPPORT ex-Muslims everywhere! Only racists, Nazis and other bigots oppose the right of these people to live the way they want! SUPPORT the right of human being to live FREE of the tyranny of Islam and Islam will fall apart!
most of these ex muslims are iranians. iran is rhe first islamic republic and main sponsor of islamic terrorism. looks like the whole islamic shit is rotting from within!
oh? and are they planning on chopping off heads of people whom believe in the hoax!
After all it takes people with intellect and guts to question what they have been commanded to accept....i.e. errors in the koran that provably match the mistaken beliefs of people in that era when life was controlled by fears, myths and superstition.
They are no longer SLAVES with the inherent weak personality type of one...they have respect for themselves and others, no longer shackled by deceit
Here in America we will never allow Radical Muslims to take over like in Britain. Even if they call us. Racist, bigots. or Islamophobe. We will fight the Muslims here, if they want to fight I will fight. By the Grace of God.
I hate to say this. But I think Islam has prepared for this take-over. This country is steeped in rationalism but it can be infected with dangerous superstitious imperialism. And what is Islam other than a kind of Imperialism?
So if you die a good muslim you get your 72 Virgins eh??... I suspect that any guy here tht has been with one virgin must be muttering " Hmmm I'm not so sure about that............."
and only 72 even though you will live forever ... not sure what happens after you run out of your share ... must be pretty boring then ... also I am not sure what Allah will give to those people that had hundreds of women here on Earth already.
There needs to be separation of church and state in England as there is in the USA. Jefferson got it so right. Now the Muslims are using your tax money to run their own schools & build their own mosques. Add to this the enormous amount of money coming from Saudi Arabia to promote Islam, & you'll soon find that they will be winning the race for domination of British culture. GET REAL, GET SERIOUS. Vote for politicians who will restore & protect Great Britain.
and to the convert, u did this knowing about aiesha? ur prophet was in his mids 50 s when he wed her age 6, between ages 6-9 when mohamed "took" her she documented he would "thigh" her, and they had 9 years as "man n wife proper" he died in her lap she was 18
and now an innocent teddy bear incites hate in the "religion of peace" failed terrorist suicide slayers when captured often say "if i am terrorist koran is also terrorist" all politicians on all continents need to b looking at this book
actually the world gives one, its like this u dont need a history degree to check out this violent jihad n infighting has not stopped since mohameds days
Who gives a fuck? I am a Muslim and i don't give a shit if these bloody idiots leave islam. Islam doesn't need them. I can't believe this bullshit i am hearing fom the people talking here. they sound like a sect of retards the lot of them. or is this the new way to get onto british media today? Islam the big villain...woooo...be afraid, be very afraid!!!
yes,that is what quran sid like most of their bloody commands.they know what is going on in islam ,so is good idea to tell people what does it mean to be a muslim.
they respect for themselves and others.....unlike "slaves to provable deceit, backward nonsense beliefs and immorality" that harms countless millions of innocent victims whom also never ever get to make a choice as to be muslim or not.
Muslims with intellect and integrity READ the errors in the koran, and see how they match the mistaken beliefs of people in that era....true, right, moral, divine??? dont be so easily fooled
But its best to at least about Islam from genuine sources. I can recommend Dr Zakir Naik videos on you tube. But mate if you are sincere in at least learning more,them I would be more then happy to get you info. Drop me a message if you want. Take Care
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In my opinion these so called exMuslims,are infact the volnerable type in each society. Its seems this guy has had bad experience with some Muslims,and thereore has made the biggest mistake in his life to reject his Creator?
By the way he now believes his ancestors were apes and monkeys {evolution theory}.
Hi mate.Firstly am just an average guy and therefore do not have much knowledge and its hard to explain in a few sentances. But in brief, think from a single sperm cell you were formed in the mothers womb,and then grew into a being with all the advanced mechanisms such as,sight,hear,taste and also have the ablity to love,hate,think and reproduce. Is this amazing being a product of an accident?
The connection is that if you reject God knowingly,then this is indeed a major sin. For those who belive and do good deeds,God will reward them with paradise,a reward unlike anyone has experienced. But for those who reject God,and by doing so live in a state of disbelief,then only Hell will be there abode.
ps.this is a general statement,and I by no means am saying these guys will enter hell,because it is only God who decides and God is the Most Mercifull.
You ahve just perfectly illustrated the problem with religion and religious people,a nd why they must never be allowed to unduly influence the political process.
You judge people by the ideology they subscribe to, not by their actions.
Sorry, but i think religion is pure bullshit and you just proved it to everybody reading this comment who hadn't already come to that conclusion.
Non of what I have mentioned spoke of political process!!Rather these are your words and judgement.
Its not me who judges people of what they belive,it is God.
And I havnt mentioned religion. I am only tryng to advise you that if you dont believe in God then your only saying your ancestors were apes and monkeys and your life has no real meaning or purpose {evolution}. Think about it scooby.
WHY do you think religious leaders went to so much trouble to prevent an exhibition being shown in Kenya...and they did!! I know why lol
what will become of islam when people with intellect see that we do share a common ancestor??? You are TOLD what to think, others aren't, so see it all for exactly the deceit that it is that this allah made you lol What a sick hoax
so HOW would you explain why the koran got it so wrong in describing how humans are conceived and formed? What is comical is that people would "believe" such deceit...but the errors do provably match what people thought in that era. Does this make the koran true....no, its utter shameful nonsense to "slaves" indoctrinated that they must not question, and just accept.....accept such deceit? Muslims with intellect/integrity dont!
that's why allah don't care human, that he put in the quran to hunt and kill non muslim. and God created all human and he loves it and put in the bible to love each other, forgiving and pray for your enemies.....
i converted to christianity last week but the only JESUS i can find is a mexican gardner and he has a second name hose, is that him?? i think i will go back to the light
Islam for me was very much like trap. At first you will not know of darker side for it is hidden from your eyes. The real Islam is seen only over time, when revealed slowly to you.
When my religion ask me to beat my wife, to hate others, to kill the non believer, I ask will that make of me a good Muslim? I have followed the path of Prophet Mohammed only to be led into the darkness. After this I discovered, I am deceived no longer and my faith in Islam faded into nothing.
Sikhs have fought against the Muhammedan scourge from the very beginning. A Sikh who converts to Islam would be the lowest of the low, a traitor to his creed, to his fellow man and to his nation. I salute the Sikhs who will be on the forefront to fight the Muhammedan's once agin!
When I was a teenager I was going to the mosque to bend over and there were hundreds of young men who attended. Now if you check the statistics almost all of them have renounced arabish relicgion and have become atheist, a few of them christians (swapped one piece of shit over another) others are agnostic.
well done for freeing yourselves from this cult called islam. It is not easy as apostatey /leaving islam under shariah (islamic law) is legal death sentance. Thus proving Islam deny's fundamental human rights to freedom of faith.
I wonder how much they paid him for it.
jo0o0odie 1 year ago
@jo0o0odie I wonder how much they paid you to make this comment.
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Take a look at the Law that governs Islam - Sharia Law - it is an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE! No sensible, decent & respectable man or woman would ever allow himself or herself to be subject to the Archaic & BRUTAL Sharia Law. Women being whipped! People being buried up to their waist and then Stoned to DEATH - not the way to treat a human being! This HORROR called Sharia Law Must Be ABOLISHED from this Earth! It is NOT the law of God but rather, it is a Corrupt set of rules created by ignorant men.
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There is no GOD but ALLAH and Prophet Mohammad is ALLAH(GOD) messenger
yusufx6x 1 year ago
Kudos to those brave apostates!
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
Jesus said to his disciples,"Peace be unto you". Islam means peace. Jesus actually means to say,"Islam be unto you" Check your bible
Fernandez30301 2 years ago
@Fernandez30301 Nonsense. Islam did not exist then. Jesus was Jewish, and proud of it.
cw1310 2 years ago
@cw1310
Forget about chicken 'n egg logic....just think of The Almighty....then we will be enlightened.
tezol21 1 year ago
actually Islam means submission..r u calling the murder and genocide done by evil Islam is peace?...
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
@Fernandez30301
You're right on it;
If all prophets gathered under one tent, there shall be nothing but PEACE and harmony. Hopefully their followers will learn to act like them. AND, those, who are free thinkers, can learn to live free...free of dogma, sarcasm, bigotry, and hatred.
tezol21 1 year ago
I am a MUSLIM
Fernandez30301 2 years ago
obviously u a r terrorist..tell me what is your opinion of pedophile muhammad raping child aisha?
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
My man, Muh...k1
I have a news for you. No sire, you do not have to wait for hell to burn you. You are already on fire! Your hatred and bigotry is combusting you. I can smell your flesh chirping in the internal flames you have set up within you.
I know what the likes of you have done with Jesus (my Love). But, no sir, this time it won't happen. It is too late. The Almighty has other plans.
Peace and justice for all the time travelers!
tezol21 2 years ago
i think muhammad the pedophle in hell burning for his crimes against humanity and child aish.....its u who is consumed by hatred and bigotry......there is nothing your cock sucking allah can do to me other than sucking my cock....but u know that.
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
@tezol21 Good to hear you're privy to the Almighty's plans, Tezo. As to 'internal combustion', it seems to me YOUR mouth 'runneth over' from Qur'an-inspired 'firy' rhetoric! :) You're giving yourself away!
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
@IpsaPaphum
I really understand your point against Islam. It is the only powerful entity that has masterfully decoded your kind of people. It has left no ambiguity to wonder about.
Islam's message to non-believers is to be at least a free spirit. Free of arrogance, bigotry and racism.
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 "masterfully decoded 'your kind' of people". Hm, there's a smell to that phrase.
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
tezol..if islam is powerful (your claim) why would it need MURDER to ensure people stay in it.....it relies on you being TOO SCARED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF and even koran proves muslims are lied to
and why dont you SPECIFY what you claim are lies re islam...remember we do know its dirty history, can read the man made comic book koran & see on a daily basis what islam causes re the obscene levels of human misery/denial of human rights
proudfemale 1 year ago
Proudfemale,
I have discussed with you your blind prejudice against Islam before.
Islam is an idea, I call it The Truth and you are free to call it whatever your mind perceives. History of human being is full of garbage. Islam is part of human legacy just like the road you take to go from Paris to Barcelona. You may focus on the destination OR you may get distracted and go ASTRAY. The choice is yours....and the choice is ours. That is why we are on EARTH. But some people want to play god!
PEACE
tezol21 1 year ago
tezo...because you want to claim islam is 'the truth; DOES NOT MAKE IT SO
islam isnt part of human legacy...its TAUGHT beliefs to some, so its laughable you liken it to a road ...the road EXISTS, but does your allah lol
you say people have choice...SADLY countless millions of muslims are DENIED choice by islam itself...such is its filth/immorality
it is SO INSECURE it feels need to have MURDER for non belief, & your dribble dishonest junk re choice
proudfemale 1 year ago
Pr-male, Islam for me because my heart trembles for it. You have choice to believe in another way AS LONG AS WE DO NOT TRANSGRESS ON EACHOTHER's RIGHTS. This is guaranteed by Quran:
2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.
Do not blame idiots action on Islam.
Choose Rumi's way not Bin Laden's. Choice is yours!
tezol21 1 year ago
how WEAK...what does you heart tremble for LOL
I LAUGH you talk about koran 'guaranteeing' when it has ZILCH credibility...it even has errors in it
prove an allah before you dribble such brainwashed immature junk as allah knows all things...theres MUCH islam shows your allah didnt have a clue about LOL
re no compulsion...perhaps youve forgotten how your sicko prick mohammed INSTRUCTED those who dont believe/turn away be MURDERED
death is very compelling
youre a weak submissive !
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
Yes, "love" makes one humble outside but strong inside.
BTW, I do not worship a God which I need to prove by my brain. my God does not fit in brain but in heart! I can not dwell much on that. One needs to rely on sensible experiences that are more real than the world we see by our eyes.
Open the eyes of your heart to see the essence of existence; to see the unseen and feel the eternity;
Hope you do not use pager signal to communicate TV programming!
Peace
tezol21 1 year ago
what makes you so weak..and so DISHONEST
what causes you to be TOO SCARED to acquire knowledge/face reality
tell us why your allah evidently didnt know about northern regions when setting rules for PAGAN ritual of ramadam...or what the result would be re massively high incidence of sexual deviance in ummah DUE TO unhealthy unnatural repression/segregaration/forbidding of normal personal interaction
or the DAMAGE children denied childhoods suffer?
youre an idiot...& have been lied to
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
Well, I'm hoping that you do not deny human instinct to worship some sort of entity(!). Take, for example yourself and let me know who you worship (or modernly speaking "love").
I shall then elaborate on the subject we differ.
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 It is true that the Quran says "Let there be no compulsion in religion" and in few instances it evens praises Ahl Al kitab (Christians and Jews) but that is dishonest because that's not the true essence of Islam when you know that most of the Quran is dedicated to cursing, dehumanizing and threatening with severe punishment in the afterlife the non-believers and to a greater extent the Jews it even refers to them as pigs and monkeys.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
H'mmmmm....Not sure what to make of your take on Islam. You are saying that Quran says something BUT you can explain it's ESSENCE better than what it says!!!!!! Can you look into your logic? WHat you are basically saying is what you UNDERSTNAD from Islam. Your understanding is processed by your predetermined results you like to draw. So, you, in a way, order your brain to come up with JUSTIFICATION to serve your goal. EXACTLY like those who use Islam to further their selfish cause!
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 It's true that my understanding use to be processed by my predetermined results when I was a Muslim, as a child I was groomed to believe that Islam was perfect and it was sacrilegious to question or criticize the Quran or Mohammed. One day however I started reading the Quran in a more objective and rational fashion and suddenly the spell of blind faith was lifted and all I could see was ignorance, nonsense and primitive thinking, it is that simple.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
you say "It's true that my understanding use to be processed by my predetermined results when I was a Muslim,"
Whell, the same metrics go with your inverted feelings you have after using your "rational fashion"....It's a trick that our brain plays and we need to be careful about it. What helps is "The heart". Heart prevents brain from "FOOLING" us when the brain is commanded by our desires.
Hope this is clear.
I advice you to see the goodness....read Rumi and enjoy life!
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 Actually "Heart" as you put it is what leads us to blind faith and distorts our thinking; when I read Surat Annisae which clearly states that a man:
-can marry up to 4 wives
-inherits twice what a woman does
-A man can beat his wife
My brain is not fooling me into thinking that Islam is unjust to women, but rather your "Heart" fools you into accepting flimsy explanations to justify that injustice.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
The pious men who are loved by The Almighty and versa do NOT engage in any of those deals.
This is the propaganda that your brain is fooling you to accept and propagate.
I have yet to find out a good muslim to have 4 wives or beat them. In the meantime, serial-killing, domestic violence and sex trading or XM affairs are products of modern selfish animals I'm ashamed to call human.
Inheritence makes 100% sense in Islamic society where women have no financial obligation in family.
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 Whom are you trying to convince and fool with your pathetic, dishonest and ignorant defense of the primitive ways of Islam? Yourself?
Do you live under a rock or are you simply in denial?
1-Many women in Muslim countries nowadays have to work to contribute financially partially or totally to the family
2-In most Muslim countries domestic violence and sex trading or XM affairs are just as rampant as they are in the West, plus those Muslim countries are very oppressive.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
So, you really want to INTENTIONALLY(?) close you ears to what I say?
I said Islamic societies. I do not consider Islamic countries a ISLAMIC SOCIETY is a sense that islamic rules are observed. Can you understand my point?
On # 2, it is the same as answer as #1. But, believe me those social desease are infused by selfish men and have much higher rate than SO CALLED islamic countries.
So, you didn't answer: Why these desease exist outside islamic countries? Is it Islam's faults???
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 1-It's not that I am closing my ears to what you are saying it's just that we are discussing Islam in the real world and your discussing Islam in fantasyland
2-You should be more selective when saying "believe me" it might work with people who suffer the same delusions as yours but otherwise it makes you come across as arrogant and ignorant.
3-And stop trying to shift the discussion to what is wrong with the West when the discussion is about what is wrong with Islam? It's dishonest.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
So, anyway what is your GOD? Who rules the world for you? let's put aside what I stand for and talk about your utopia creator.
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 Did I ever say that I have a god?
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
You did not say it but everyone has a God. Some people have their EGO as God. Some create God in their brain and then ask that "synthetic" God to help them with their problems. Some deny having God and think they just grew out of cabbage patch and claim to be God.
The God (as a being) is a preliminary concept. Even the satinists believe in it. Some say...well..I am baffled...whether there is a God or NOT....and they dwell on it.
So, what is your God?
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 How can I put it in words that fit your mentality? So far I don't have the need for a fictional character to guide my life and lend me its imaginary support, but if I ever do it would be at least a fictional character above humans in its nature and that eliminates the Muslim and Judeo Christian god which bears all the marks of a very insecure, chauvinist and sadistic psychopath, so it is no surprise that its followers hate each other and everybody else.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
Faith is a delicate matter. You say "no surprise that its followers hate each other...."
The true believers can ONLY love The Almighty's creation, including self and other humans.....This love flows from the love of The One. The one's who hate self and eachother and others are those who use religion as a tool to further their perverted understanding of the faith.
...and you say " I don't have the need for a fic....". Yes it is your EGO talking...Do you really think U R K.P. Doll!
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 I am not an atheist because I think that I am better than others, I am atheist simply because it is what makes sense to me and gives meaning and peace to my life, had I found those things in religion I wouldn't have left it, it is that simple. Would I recommend atheism to others? No, people should be where they feel right as long as they don't break the law in any way or oppress others as a result of their belief, and promoting atheism is just as wrong as promoting religion.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
you say " I am atheist simply because ...... gives meaning and peace to my life"
For sure, you can find equilibrium in life without having God in mind but you have settled down to 'Nothing" which is "Matter". We have many live material beings that are in peace and equilibrium around us. Take a rock for instance. It is in total peace and slowly depreciating in it's state of matter.
I agree with most of what you said about "No compulsion" in belief - assured by God broken by men!
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 As for me settling for nothing, let's look at my options;
-Devote my life to a falsehood and forgo commonsense to seek consolation and peace of mind in an imaginary God in the hope that my imaginary soul would be with imaginary virgins in an imaginary place with imaginary rivers of wine and honey and where imaginary beans and lentils grow (how very Middleastern!)
-Use my conscience and commonsense to guide my life and have my imaginary soul suffer horrifically in imaginary hell
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
I see nothing wrong by promoting what we believe as a proposal AS LONG AS WE PRACTICE WHAT WE SAY. My God created us to believe in or deny and you are a live example of this undeniable righ that God gave us. But, some selfish men are making mess on earth in the name of God creating ugly images of belief.
Then, there are some beautiful men among us giving us hope and emit scent of The Almighty.
It is our choice to look at the Glass as 1/2 full or 1/2 empty! Can't deny 1/2 full.
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 Blaming the wrongs of religion on bad people only proves that it is useless in improving bad peoples character and only puts innocent people, seeking consolation in an imaginary god, at the mercy of religious crooks such as Imams, Priests, Rabbis, Preachers, etc...
Now I am not saying it's wrong to be a person faith, if having an imaginary companion is the only way you can go through life's ups and downs then you are right where you need to be, but I just don't need one for now.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
Human brain is a complex system. It goes thru pretty extravagant process of compiling information to yield certain output (decision). The process is usually picked based on "The state of mind" we are in. The state of mind is a result of many complex factors itself.
Faith comes in and tries to straighten up our state of mind to yield GOOD results. Defining GOOD needs a value system that is developed by The creator, otherwise it would be selfish, immature and incomplete...........
tezol21 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
Imaginary God is NOT what I'm after. I told you that The God made of my mind is not worth my acceptance.
The Almighty is NOT imaginary, Why?
Easy; The Almighty can be felt thru sensible experiences. We just need to train ourselves to understand it. It is like listening to AM radio and expecting to see HD video.
To feel sensible experiences, one needs to open receptors of heart. If I believe in duality (a prelim concept), I can draw parallel between physical and spiritual senses.
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 I have to admit that I lack the skills of entering the realm of the imaginary no matter how wide I open the receptors of my heart, I have no doubt that they are people like you who are capable of feeling the almighty's presence, and they are those who can see and talk to Jesus, others still can see ghosts, leprechauns, etc... It must be a question of fine tuning my receptors to the right frequency but I just can't do it.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
My co-habitat on Earth....That is fine with me if you acknowledge lacking tools of trait.
My advice is....if you are genuine in WHATEVER you believe, you then STOP going around and actively propagating ill-will against the people you can not relate to or the ideology that puzzles you.
If you do not believe in, at least be a free man....free of hate, bigotry, racism and arrogance. As a basic human being we need to stay away from these traits.
tezol21 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
thank you for your time and I won't take your time
Peace;
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 I appreciate your efforts in trying to defend Islam, it's a hopeless endeavor but I give you credit for giving it your best and for lasting this long in a conversation that I know must have been very distasteful for you.
You are free to believe whatever makes you happy but once you enter into a debate in defense of your belief then you are responsible for what you say and people respond to what you say accordingly.
Peace.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE WOW! wow, wow, wow, this made me cry. im not kidding u. i have never read a statement so powerful that describes how i feel like u did rit now. i have tried also but i just cant, cant do it! I LOVE JESUS To MUCH!!! May JESUS be w/ u. and never NEVER dought no matter what. again WOW!!!!!!
HelloWorld1947 1 year ago
@tezol21 It is pathetic that educated people like you can't distinguish good from bad and right from wrong and have to be told what is what. Most people all over the world have a sense of decency and morality regardless of their beliefs; these are Universal values that we as humans, armed with intelligence and commonsense, have opted for in order to live in harmony and peace with each other and we try to pass them on to our children.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
You say " It is pathetic educated people like you can't distinguish good from bad regardless of their beliefs;"
Your accusations are baseless for two obvious reasons:
1. Most educated people do not go around and accuse people of what they are NOT.
2. You do not even know me and I AM actually tolerating you with reasonable discussion.
You seem to take the same stance about me that are trying to portray to be against it - A complete contradiction!
Peace on Earth for mankind
tezol21 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
Also, I'm glad that you at least see a DIFFERENCE between our MENTALITY! It is obvious that, of course, you will judge your mentality to be superior than me and I do the same. It is also fair to consider an ARBITRATOR to fairly judge who is right and who is wrong (relatively speaking). Now, who do you think The Judge should be?
Of course we believe The Strong is The right (relatively speaking)......well.....The question is: who is The Strong in absolute terms?
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 You said that "we need to consider an arbitrator to judge who is right and who is wrong". Who/what is going to be the Arbitrator?
-You can't mean a human being because that would only mean that you can't even trust your own judgment in making decisions regarding personal matters
-And you can't mean a god because knowing that I don't believe gods, because that would only mean that blind faith has distorted your thinking and your rationality
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
@GODandPEACE
I surely don't trust my judgment. The best I can do is use my brain decide and ask The Almighty for enlightenment. We are all enslaved to self-interest and many other forces within that drive us. That is why we have burps like "Oops!", "holly ...!" and others.
Now, the 2nd issue is yours and surely not mine. AND.....that was my point. Rationally speaaking, we need a super all knowing being that can justly judge among us. If you can pinpoint that entity in this world, let me know.
tezol21 1 year ago
@tezol21 There is nothing rational about "we need a super all knowing being that can justly judge among us" it is simply wishful thinking resulting from blind faith in a load of nonsense, ignorance and primitive thinking started by a charlatan about 1400 years ago, but I don't expect you to be rational when discussing your faith because to do so would shatter all those delusions you have built in your mind since your childhood indoctrination and you would probably be lost.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
OK u can be for the right to change ur religion but then WHY do u enter in political aspect of wars namely against Islam and muslims saying they kill civilians while ur secular countries kill more civilians than muslims ?!?! like 1 mill iraqi children etc; its like u sell urself as being unbiased than crap it with - only muslim bashing and not secular armies and wars ?! thats why ur not honest
penkallli 2 years ago
I was born to Muslim parents and I formally left Islam when I was 14 - and, I have never looked back.
It is a horrid religion which sanctions misogyny, homophobia, barbaric punishments, religious discrimination and et cetera.
Mattyb88ful 2 years ago
well done!..good for u mate!....i am happy evil islam did not destroy your thinking!....
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
Dear Matty...
That is your choice and Islam encourages one to choose his/her way.
Islam is not in the business of raising muslim count but rather raising humans up to their potential of what they really can be.
We see Islam (just like any other phenomena on Earth) thru the glasses that we wear. Picking the type of the glasses is our job.
Peace and justice for all on earth;
tezol21 2 years ago
on the contrary Islam destroys humanity and will decent human beings into terrrorist zombie.....u and i know that...we have seen so man times in mumbai,london,new york,beslan......
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
m..a..d...m...ock1,
I just wanted to give you a wake up call. this would be my last advice to you:
Yes, add to your list the genocide in Croatia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Afghanistan, Iraq, Ireland, AND DO NOT FORGET THE BABIES PERISHED IN PALESTINIAN SCHOOLS.
Every religion has some idiot outliers who take advantage of the ideology and do crimes against humanity. Islam is not immune to this neither just like Christianity, Judaism, or ATHEISM. They all create god in their brain and serve it - SELF.
tezol21 2 years ago
and do u forgot the murders done by evil Muslims in Khaibar,mumbai,beslan,london,....
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
@tezol21 Aren't you forgetting that in the case of Islam it's not just some 'idiot outliers'. Read about the self-styled prophet's murderous exploits in the Q, the hadiths and Ibn Ishaq/Ibn Hisham.
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
It is no different than the evangelists raising hell all over the world or zionists in the name of Judaism.
The are all condemned.
As Billy Joel says:
We dod not start the fire...it was always burnin as the world was turnin.....
There are the good....the bad...and the deceived.....
tezol21 1 year ago
hey is it just me or isnt it weird that they hold press conferences or watever whnever sum muslim converts to christianity? i mean u dun c press conferences over ppl who converted to Islam. i mean if u dont have faith in Islam. u don't. its ur personal choice. and all these death threats...are they 4 real. have their been any murders coz sum1 converted. 4 real...show me proof b4 u start typin'
wolvie041007 2 years ago
its just a natural problem for any religion,,.,just dont care.,.men wake up.,.,you foool.,.,!
gedebu 3 years ago
REALLY ?! all the ex-muslims i've ever seen or heard of ALWAYS have to be arab or from arab descent? hmph...let me guess why...because ignorant people actually believe the middle east only has muslims. It's sooo sad. To the trained eye, it's obvious he is a fake. ahh. Show me other nationalities of non muslims PLEASE because just because you are arab does NOT mean you were/are Muslim. This is their way of trickking you. They hold the accent, they have the look, haha it's madd pathetic .
iPROCLAIMPEACE 3 years ago
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And why don't you go and train your eye again maybe youll then se the truth
It's so hard for you ppl to conceive that any one should leave islam for something better than the islamic death cult
hannahr77 2 years ago 2
it`s as hard for me as it is for you then i guess. because people leave islam, that's a fact. it happens. but there are people whom haven't ever been muslim that deliberatly go on camera and bash islam and lie about being a part of it. that itself is a fact. & you are entitled to your opinion as i am to the facts.
iPROCLAIMPEACE 2 years ago
i love the fact that i speak truth & people give me thumbs down. i`m glad you used your intellect when reading my statement. :)
iPROCLAIMPEACE 2 years ago
Truth speaks for itself. Nonetheless, if Islam was such a death cult, why is it the fastest growing religion in the world? Why after 9/11 and so called "proof" we Muslims are terrorists, that American born, Caucasian with blond hair and blue eyes accepted Islam? Why are Americans if they are so afraid of this "death cult" becoming Muslim? but of course, you never hear that. look up the facts for yourself.
iPROCLAIMPEACE 2 years ago
oh dear - this bull again. - Islam is growing, because its followers dont use family planning - meaning large families who due to western medicine are not dying during infancy or childbirth. AS to the numbers of converts to islam - many more leave than convert. I suggest you look up the facts instead - on a secular scientific website.
silverspirit2001 2 years ago
If family planning WAS the case, then Catholicism would be dominating the world, I assure you. It has nothing to do with family planning because the majority of Muslims who converted that had such a great impact on the number of Muslims in America, occurred after 9/11. These were grown folks converting to Islam. The reason for its growing is because it`s the truth; it KEEPS on growing because the followers are having large families. THAT`s a fact. THank you.
iPROCLAIMPEACE 2 years ago
LOL - look at the number of catholics vs protestants. You have just eloquently proved my point. Just remember that catholic countries tend to be freer, and now have family planning services, much to the chagrin of the church. This is why africa is so important for the catholics, with their message that codoms cause aids.
silverspirit2001 2 years ago
sigh* maybe if i KNEW what your POINT was , because you were talking about the reasons for increase of Muslims, now ...my reply was exactly what I implied and was a direct reply to your comment. I literally have NO idea what your talking about in your recent comment . . .what does AFRICa, CONDOMNS, and AIDS have to do with what we were talking about ?! don`t try to prove another off topic point please. Thank you.
iPROCLAIMPEACE 2 years ago
Yes...Islam is evil,nonsense and violent..Muhammad is a pedophile terrorist and mass murderer...that is the truth...but u know that....
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
Dear silver.....
Our benchmark for The Truth can not be the size of it's followers! This is just so rational, correct?
Islam is in the business of swaying away the covers from our hearts to see The Truth. As Wayne Dyer says: You need to believe it to see it. Once we take that Truth pill, The Lover will embrace us, take our hand and The Journey begins. It is really a matter of heart. HOWEVER, I agree, some people create their God and follow what they create. I call it FICTIONARY GOD.
Peace;
tezol21 2 years ago
on the contrary Islam is afraid of truth..that is why evil Islam will murder anyone that leaves....islam is like an evil cult....once u try to leave....it will hunt and kill u........after all...evil islam is "religion of 'peace".....ha ha
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
@tezol21 Venomous hatred of Jews, war to collect protection money (Q9:29), Mo cursing his aunt and uncle and 'revealing' that he, on second thoughts, can have more than 4 wives? What pill have you been taking? It sure ain't a Truth Pill! :)
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
Jews are good folks;
Zionists are bad;
What do you think happened to Moses and Jesus? Go ahead blame them on Muhammad...but at some point you have to take the reality pill!
The point is, Islam has decoded the evil and it really hurts the evil to be exposed!!!!!!!!!
Let's not be slave to some political agenda. Live free...free of ignorance, arrogance, bigotry, racism and stop character assassination. It does not work anymore. Your lies are the best propaganda for Islam.
Peace
tezol21 1 year ago
no no no.... face it my friend, why muslims cannot accept that muslim leave islam, what's the point of coming in these council if you're not exmuslim. it's like coming to a soccer game and you're not interested in sport. these are exmuslims, and many are in uk, and converted to christianity, because they assimilated to the dominant English culture.
ANTHONY212008 3 years ago
Unfortunately, With your "PHD" You can not hold a Conversation. You can not do a simple Search. I doubt that you even have High School. At least educated people can hold a conversation and do Unbiased Ignorant Search, By the way At Least I know which rock To go BAck to.But you are Very Lost. I am realy Feeling Bad for you. I do not tell Lies, I am talking to you with Proofs and FActs, You talk to me With Ignorance and Hate. This guy is an Iraqi Christian..I know the Accent..
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
I know who he is now, He is an Iraqi Christian that is pretending to be a muslim.. This guy is not even a Muslim from the beggining.. He is a Chaldian, Or Arab Christian that is just lying.. Man Get out of here.
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
No, you are the ignorant.
I have a phd and speak 5 languages.
Go back and crawl under the rock you came from.
jrolchowy12 3 years ago
Most of you so called westerners live and rule by islamic sharia Laws.Muslims taught you Contract writting,Ombudsmen.. and so ON. Our american law is derived from English law which derived most of it from Sharia Law during muslim Spain.People enough with changing the facts. Search Wikipedia and read about Sharia Law, and Ombudsmen.Our golden AGe was your midevil Times.You have adapted to our laws and then after our colapse injected your hateful segregated thinking and stole our Moral.Stop hate
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
You are ignorant , get an education.
How old are you 12?
You are uneducated and spewing garbage in here.
Usa live under sharia law? You are crazy!
jrolchowy12 3 years ago
My Friend, I think you dont know English, You are just an Ignorant Kiddo. I am very Educated. Did you really search Ombudsmen, Did you search Sharia Law In Wikipedia.. You know what Wikipedia is, or I guess you are so Ignorant and Uneducated that you can not do thatEnglish Law Was stolen from Islamic Law, How about Contract Writting, Your Europian Evil Times were Muslim Golden Times.We Invented Medicin, Algebra,Chemistry. Do a real Scientific Research and then come back to me.What is Ombudsment
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
If this guy thinks the British 'Trade Union' movement is gonna help out he's sadly mistaken. The TUC enjoys a shared ethos with the British State, and secularism is regarded with hostility by the ruling establishment. The poor dudes fucking deluded.
Subutubiata 3 years ago
Free speech, Islam will never abide. Some cultures are simply incompatable
saltofearth 3 years ago
What is Qadi AlQudat, Dont Say Islam never Abides, We taught you free speech. Search Ombdudsmen and see where you got it from. From Second Islamic Caliph. Omar.Jews were killed after the colapse of Islamic Spain.Read the History.Some stuff can not be hidden.Your hitler killed all faiths. Muslim countries have millions of Christians and Jews that still live until today.. so go search the facts and tell me..
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
u see how great religion is islam.many people change religion but only muslims who change religion r focused.its proved that islam is real religion .behind these people there is money and jewish media
nadeemrock 3 years ago
ISLAM is the most BARBARIC, EVIL, and DIABOLICAL CULT in the world. It is a CANCER to modern society. HATS OFF to these ex-MOSLEMS for leaving this EVIL CULT.
ISLAM is the most VIRULENT and VIOLENT CULT in the world. It's sole purpose is to convert the whole world to ISLAM. I bet a lot of people will LEAVE this EVIL CULT if given a choice.
Unfortunately, MOST Moslems don't have that choice. And why? Because ISLAM is a REPRESSIVE CULT that can ONLY keep its flock together through FORCE.
AmericanZeus 3 years ago
americanZeus, you are absolutely right.
I did leave Islam, Islam was imposed on me, I risked death and moved to the west to become free.
jrolchowy12 3 years ago
Your are such a Lier
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
learn how to spell, YOU ARE THE LIAR NOT ME.
jrolchowy12 3 years ago
I am not lying, these are facts. You tell us the truth you were never a muslim... but just lying...Many non Muslims become muslims because they find the truth in it. These are the real people that actually get to read and search for the truth, not ignorant like you.. I guess your 12 Years old... Big Liar..
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
We live In the USA and have a choice to become what we wnt, but never hada muslim convert to any other religioun.You have to understand islam from the inside, not just what yousee in the media.Islam Ruled the world and many parts became muslims peacefully such as indonisia,china, and so on.only barbaric societies were by the sword.Under islam your grandfathers lived but under hitler they were killed.under islamic spain they lived.after that they were massacared, and many jews went to Syria.
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
Go tell your lies to IDIOTS that will believe you.
jrolchowy12 3 years ago
Idiots that you call are you fellow writters in Wikipedia that are acutally in the web go to google and search, ( Sharia Law in Wiki).. If you know how to search and read it for yourself.... You are very very ignorant.. Go search omdusmen... Do your homework then come back and talk to me..The way you talk is really Ignorant and Uncivilized.
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
You are very Ignorant. I am not telling yo uto believe me.. I am telling you to go search it and tell me.I am not giving you the Quran, I am giving you Wikipedia.... So search the Facts and Then Come back and tell me who is an Idiot...Us Muslims are very very proud and will challenge any one but liars, Or Ignorant Racist People
realfreedomfighter08 3 years ago
All this is due to "WEAKNESS OF FAITH & PATIENCE IN THEIR HEARTS".. Deep down their hearts, there is still "A VOICE" telling them that they are taking a WRONG path and I am sure they know this.. I am not here to judge others, GOD is THE JUDGE.. All Ex-Muslims, Look deep in your Hearts and listen carefully to The Voice which will take you to the Right Path.. Islam is the SOLUTION TO HUMANITY & OUR PROBLEMS we all know it.. "INNALLAH MA'AS-SABIREEN", GOD is with those who Have Patience (in Him)..
hozzeyni 3 years ago 2
hozzeyni,where do you call this brave and honest people to - to commit murder against non-muslims, just as your "prophet" Muhhamad did? To commit pedophelie and rape of helpless children and women as Muhammad did? To hate all non muslims and worship bloodthirsty moon god Allah? Deep down in your heart you know that you worship satan. True God GIVES LIFE, the satan Allah - wants take life. He loves blood, cruelty, hate and fear. Let true God to help you!
goodcupoftea 3 years ago
Yeh buddy its has all the solution of 'humanity and Problem' T. Edision,Issac Newton,Louis Pasture,Bill Gates,Jerry Yang, Larry Page were Muslim.
and yes Mahatma Gandhi,Florence Nightingel,Neslson Mandela,Herery Deuna(Red Cross, oh sorry Crecent)were muslim.
and ya hw bout the Gretest Scientist Albert Einstin! Let me check in the Quran there aer more ,So i request pls revert and go to saudi arabia there is the highest quality of life.The land of Prophet Mohhamed(PBUM).
AnyWayAhuman 3 years ago
It is sad to see how people hate Islam this much. And so Heart Breaking to see a muslimah leaving her Faith. I pray for you to come back to Islam before it is too Late. It is an Unforgivable sin by God. What people don't know is, "The world is just a Test.. Be Good, Do justice to Yourself and Others, Have Patience in GOD.. inshALLAH You will be Rewarded, thats a Promise.
hozzeyni 3 years ago
muslim these are slaves of lies
you will ask about the prophet : you will hear lies
even science in quran these are manipulations and lies
by force you won't hold faithful
when ideals will fall through and an ugly carcass will stay
when people will open their eyes
Islam will start breaking down
lordjinns 3 years ago
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SATAN has sent one of his devils in the image of archangel Gabriel to inspire muhammed.
Poor muslims believe God wants people invading others (how muhammed did), head and
hands choping and that in paradise there are couches, young boys and virgins for
lust, food and gold.
Jesus is God, baptize yourself in the name of Holy Trinity to get saved.
islamisfromsatan 3 years ago
appearance, language, behaveiour everything transformed by leavin islam at once. From darkness into light. I am not talking about this guy in the video but my impression in general of ex muslims. WHY??
ICTYS1 3 years ago
To answer ICTYS1's question. One reason is the freedom in no longer having to defend the indefensible. The other reason is that there is so much hatred and violence in Islam and the cognitive dissonance that comes from trying to deny that while at the same time embracing it - You know how Nietzsche said if you look too long into the Abyss the Abyss will look back into you? That's the case with Islam, the evil and hatred starts to become part of you, leaving Islam frees you from all that.
exMuslim07 3 years ago
incredible... we in europe do not know what islam really is, muslims promote their religion totally wrong, why? Is this because they do not know by themselves or do they really want to deceive other cultures, religions etc.
ICTYS1 3 years ago
Some Muslims dont know anything about Islam, especially Western converts who've been fed a sugar-coated version that is as far from the truth as east from west (pardon the pun). But many others DO know and hide it. That is acceptable in Islam since Muslims can deceive kaffirs in Dar al-Harb. There are only two realms in Islamic thinking: Dar al-Islam (realm of Islam) and Dar al-Harb (realm of War). Muslims must work towards the goal of making the entire world Dar al-Islam by any means possible.
exMuslim07 3 years ago
yea dude, i had exactly the same impression!!! It is amazing, incredible, SO VISIBLE difference!!! I wish there was a way to bring all muslims into light. Unfortunately it isn't possible, and they will all have to live and die as satan's slaves, killing and spreading hater and terror all around the world.
PaniLusia 3 years ago
Did you notice how absolutely determinate to stay blind they are? When you try to argue with them, they never listen, but starts insult and threat you in mindless fury, deny obvious facts and come up with some really NAIVE stories, like one dude was convincing me that jews kidnapped 80000 Romanians for sex, or that in Europe people can legally get married with animals. People here doesnt realize who we let into Europe, they think everybody are so nice and friendly and only want to live in peace.
PaniLusia 3 years ago
EXCELLENT group! SUPPORT ex-Muslims everywhere! Only racists, Nazis and other bigots oppose the right of these people to live the way they want! SUPPORT the right of human being to live FREE of the tyranny of Islam and Islam will fall apart!
apostatewinner 3 years ago
most of these ex muslims are iranians. iran is rhe first islamic republic and main sponsor of islamic terrorism. looks like the whole islamic shit is rotting from within!
kafir1917 3 years ago
bunch of athiestic extremists
BrownSugar4You 4 years ago
oh? and are they planning on chopping off heads of people whom believe in the hoax!
After all it takes people with intellect and guts to question what they have been commanded to accept....i.e. errors in the koran that provably match the mistaken beliefs of people in that era when life was controlled by fears, myths and superstition.
They are no longer SLAVES with the inherent weak personality type of one...they have respect for themselves and others, no longer shackled by deceit
proudfemale 4 years ago
Here in America we will never allow Radical Muslims to take over like in Britain. Even if they call us. Racist, bigots. or Islamophobe. We will fight the Muslims here, if they want to fight I will fight. By the Grace of God.
dann551 4 years ago
Hindus, Sikhs, and Buddhists stand by you.
tomtomttom 4 years ago
I hate to say this. But I think Islam has prepared for this take-over. This country is steeped in rationalism but it can be infected with dangerous superstitious imperialism. And what is Islam other than a kind of Imperialism?
martynblackburn1977 4 years ago
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decenttttt 4 years ago
So if you die a good muslim you get your 72 Virgins eh??... I suspect that any guy here tht has been with one virgin must be muttering " Hmmm I'm not so sure about that............."
mistral55 4 years ago
and only 72 even though you will live forever ... not sure what happens after you run out of your share ... must be pretty boring then ... also I am not sure what Allah will give to those people that had hundreds of women here on Earth already.
GodForum 4 years ago
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sad fact to know that when 1 orignal muslim leave islam , more than 1000 non-muslims get convert into islam
RAGAB1000 4 years ago
There needs to be separation of church and state in England as there is in the USA. Jefferson got it so right. Now the Muslims are using your tax money to run their own schools & build their own mosques. Add to this the enormous amount of money coming from Saudi Arabia to promote Islam, & you'll soon find that they will be winning the race for domination of British culture. GET REAL, GET SERIOUS. Vote for politicians who will restore & protect Great Britain.
CharlesM732 4 years ago
Sorry...I'm talking to alia1001.
LJBrit 4 years ago
and to the convert, u did this knowing about aiesha? ur prophet was in his mids 50 s when he wed her age 6, between ages 6-9 when mohamed "took" her she documented he would "thigh" her, and they had 9 years as "man n wife proper" he died in her lap she was 18
praskovia13 4 years ago
and now an innocent teddy bear incites hate in the "religion of peace" failed terrorist suicide slayers when captured often say "if i am terrorist koran is also terrorist" all politicians on all continents need to b looking at this book
praskovia13 4 years ago
actually the world gives one, its like this u dont need a history degree to check out this violent jihad n infighting has not stopped since mohameds days
praskovia13 4 years ago
Who gives a fuck? I am a Muslim and i don't give a shit if these bloody idiots leave islam. Islam doesn't need them. I can't believe this bullshit i am hearing fom the people talking here. they sound like a sect of retards the lot of them. or is this the new way to get onto british media today? Islam the big villain...woooo...be afraid, be very afraid!!!
alia1001 4 years ago
Bent little freak!
LJBrit 4 years ago
Doesn't the Koran say that you must kill those who leave Islam ?
GodForum 4 years ago
yes,that is what quran sid like most of their bloody commands.they know what is going on in islam ,so is good idea to tell people what does it mean to be a muslim.
aryaman1969 4 years ago 2
they respect for themselves and others.....unlike "slaves to provable deceit, backward nonsense beliefs and immorality" that harms countless millions of innocent victims whom also never ever get to make a choice as to be muslim or not.
Muslims with intellect and integrity READ the errors in the koran, and see how they match the mistaken beliefs of people in that era....true, right, moral, divine??? dont be so easily fooled
proudfemale 4 years ago
Dr. Naik tells distorted tales and misinterpretation of quran. Watch and laugh at him.
gsangha2007 4 years ago
scooby.
But its best to at least about Islam from genuine sources. I can recommend Dr Zakir Naik videos on you tube. But mate if you are sincere in at least learning more,them I would be more then happy to get you info. Drop me a message if you want. Take Care
rakiims 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
In my opinion these so called exMuslims,are infact the volnerable type in each society. Its seems this guy has had bad experience with some Muslims,and thereore has made the biggest mistake in his life to reject his Creator?
By the way he now believes his ancestors were apes and monkeys {evolution theory}.
Unless they repent,only Hell will await them.
rakiims 4 years ago
nah, fuck that.
If hell exists prove it. That make believe book your fraud of a prophet used to build a cult of personality doesn't count.
scoobyDx 4 years ago 2
scooby..
Hi mate.Firstly am just an average guy and therefore do not have much knowledge and its hard to explain in a few sentances. But in brief, think from a single sperm cell you were formed in the mothers womb,and then grew into a being with all the advanced mechanisms such as,sight,hear,taste and also have the ablity to love,hate,think and reproduce. Is this amazing being a product of an accident?
rakiims 4 years ago
I have no idea my friend. I make no claim to have the answers to such questions.
I agree, life itself is a beautiful and incredible thing, a miracle indeed.
But what does that have to do with these people going to hell? There's no connection.
scoobyDx 4 years ago 3
The connection is that if you reject God knowingly,then this is indeed a major sin. For those who belive and do good deeds,God will reward them with paradise,a reward unlike anyone has experienced. But for those who reject God,and by doing so live in a state of disbelief,then only Hell will be there abode.
ps.this is a general statement,and I by no means am saying these guys will enter hell,because it is only God who decides and God is the Most Mercifull.
rakiims 4 years ago
WHo says rejecting god sends you to hell?
You ahve just perfectly illustrated the problem with religion and religious people,a nd why they must never be allowed to unduly influence the political process.
You judge people by the ideology they subscribe to, not by their actions.
Sorry, but i think religion is pure bullshit and you just proved it to everybody reading this comment who hadn't already come to that conclusion.
scoobyDx 4 years ago 3
Non of what I have mentioned spoke of political process!!Rather these are your words and judgement.
Its not me who judges people of what they belive,it is God.
And I havnt mentioned religion. I am only tryng to advise you that if you dont believe in God then your only saying your ancestors were apes and monkeys and your life has no real meaning or purpose {evolution}. Think about it scooby.
rakiims 4 years ago
WHY do you think religious leaders went to so much trouble to prevent an exhibition being shown in Kenya...and they did!! I know why lol
what will become of islam when people with intellect see that we do share a common ancestor??? You are TOLD what to think, others aren't, so see it all for exactly the deceit that it is that this allah made you lol What a sick hoax
proudfemale 4 years ago
Who told you they are rejecting God. I see you talking like a spoke person of god. Who knows god is guiding them and leading you ashtray.
yusup2 4 years ago
so HOW would you explain why the koran got it so wrong in describing how humans are conceived and formed? What is comical is that people would "believe" such deceit...but the errors do provably match what people thought in that era. Does this make the koran true....no, its utter shameful nonsense to "slaves" indoctrinated that they must not question, and just accept.....accept such deceit? Muslims with intellect/integrity dont!
proudfemale 4 years ago
To each his own belief. Simple as that.
patnet89 4 years ago
God Created human. Allah did not created humna.
that's why allah don't care human, that he put in the quran to hunt and kill non muslim. and God created all human and he loves it and put in the bible to love each other, forgiving and pray for your enemies.....
kemoncarlsberg 4 years ago
Allah is the ARABIC word for GOD, in russian God is BOG, in spanish and portuguese DEUS, Gott in germani think
allah= deus= bog= GOD=
so what the f are you talking about you uneducated, ignorant fool
elmir1981 4 years ago
hey i am a ex muslim
i converted to christianity last week but the only JESUS i can find is a mexican gardner and he has a second name hose, is that him?? i think i will go back to the light
elmir1981 4 years ago
@elmir1981. Stupid.
namemexy 4 years ago
leave islam to have happy life? enjoy sex ?drink alcohol? take drugs? daydreaming?accept our fathers were apes? i don't think so.
rover98 4 years ago
long live ISLAM day by day more muslims in this country 2.5m in tens year time it will be 10m muslims ------LONG LIVE ISLAM -----
maddogharis 4 years ago
Islam for me was very much like trap. At first you will not know of darker side for it is hidden from your eyes. The real Islam is seen only over time, when revealed slowly to you.
When my religion ask me to beat my wife, to hate others, to kill the non believer, I ask will that make of me a good Muslim? I have followed the path of Prophet Mohammed only to be led into the darkness. After this I discovered, I am deceived no longer and my faith in Islam faded into nothing.
EscapeFromIslam 4 years ago 4
u mums gay for creatin u u ugly bit*h go get aa girl friend so u got sommin eles to do . wat the hell man ur gay an a freshie get A LIFE!!!
pkxamber 4 years ago
Islam, a religion? No, more like an abomination.
hsimpson 4 years ago
Sikhs have fought against the Muhammedan scourge from the very beginning. A Sikh who converts to Islam would be the lowest of the low, a traitor to his creed, to his fellow man and to his nation. I salute the Sikhs who will be on the forefront to fight the Muhammedan's once agin!
thecamelsback 4 years ago
When I was a teenager I was going to the mosque to bend over and there were hundreds of young men who attended. Now if you check the statistics almost all of them have renounced arabish relicgion and have become atheist, a few of them christians (swapped one piece of shit over another) others are agnostic.
Keep it real
sammontanahotmailc 4 years ago
Violence in religion is fear and oppression. Reject the lie of Islam and cling to freedom to believe from a personal stance.
antimuslim51 4 years ago
Put Islam were it fully belongs: in the dustbin
dangerousdan71 4 years ago
well done for freeing yourselves from this cult called islam. It is not easy as apostatey /leaving islam under shariah (islamic law) is legal death sentance. Thus proving Islam deny's fundamental human rights to freedom of faith.
May God Bless You All
muslim2sikh 4 years ago