Some people need to grow up really. There is a difference in XMA and the traditional. It is like the difference in classical and modern music. I wouldn't use a classical instruement in a rock song, and I wouldn't use a electric guitar in a clasical song. The same works in XMA. I wouldn't go into a fight flipping and doing cartwheels and working in coreography, i would use my ATA skills, but I also wouldn't do a demo with knife hand strike, punch, reverse punch.
this is shit; not martial arts. if you call yourself a master, and you do xma, you are the biggest joke a human can be. to think i had respect for this shit.
i agree. i am a blackbelt in martial arts, and have always thought the ATA demos were a joke. expecially the xma. it does take a great deal of athleticism to do this stuff, but its not practical, it lacks technique, and its giving the public a false sense of what martial arts really is.
this was a great demo the best part was when u all said "Master Silva this is for you!" that was great Rest in peace sir u are missed by all. overall it came out really decent screw the haters team victory keep doing your thing!
Great gymnastics. I think you gave a better performance than you give yourself credit for.
But this is not martial arts.
This style of choreography is not even close to kata training. The moves you are being taught are dance, not self-defense skills.
What XMA is is the cheap dumbing down of martial arts, which is having devastating impact on the martial arts world. XMA is making legitimate martial arts look impractical and silly.
Ok so obviously u are ignorant to the fact that xma is martial arts on a entertainment level.... It's not meant to be something that is going to save ur life it's suppose to take the basic moves and evolve it and make a show with it then just the same boring form every time... It is to help u think outside the box and be creative...we do acrobatics and dance and martial arts all in one form for entertainment... Thank u for the compliments and now maybe u learned something.
I agree with thebendersen124. Its really good what you are doing out there. But the spirit and the reason you learned it, its gonna be lost in this type of performance. Karate should be fun but it has to make sence. So to train karate without thinking about fighting, self defence etc. (you know what I mean) you cannot call karate. Call it gymnastics or trixter performance. But not karate.
@itme20 Yes and no. I think what you guys in the XMA world do is awesome, and I really would love to learn some of it. I just think it's too bad that we can't find a meeting in the middle. I choreograph for my dojo too, but we try to keep the vocabulary in the realm of what you find in traditional kata. The purpose of kata in the traditional martial arts is to practice self-defense techniques in a structural and aesthetic way. To victoryma1's point, it's about putting the art in martial arts.
So to that extent, the fact that XMA has gone one step further and explored the flips and tricks is fantastic for the martial arts -- if you don't lose the quality of the technique when you're not mid-air. Take the kata Unsu -- it's not one I've ever studied, but I've seen videos and it's awesome. There is an aerial move in the kata where you jump and do a 180 turn and land on one knee. XMA takes that idea and expands on it. I just don't like it when the techniques on the ground become sloppy.
So, in an ideal world for me, XMA needs to go back to its traditional martial arts roots and relearn the point of those kicks and those blocks and those stances that you do when you're not doing crazy flips. And in exchange, I think us in the traditional martial arts world need to loosen up on the subject of the gymnastics.
Nice cartwheels and twirling. The flips would be nice if even half of them were landed properly. Alas, this is NOT gymnastics or cheerleading (or is it?!). As a former high ranking black belt instructor (and student of an ATA senior master) with the ATA, I looked with dismay at the lack of proper stances and execution of techniques in this "demonstration". This is why I left ATA and returned to teaching full contact street fighting and combat styles of martial arts.
everyone has there opinion but make sure you know what xma is before you start judging anything. As a ata instructor myself under SR. Master Von Schmeling, yeah that wasnt our best performance but we still went out there and wowed the crowd. im not so sure u didnt stay cause of that u didnt stay cause u couldnt do that or help run a school which is why u went out of business!!!
Victoryma: Sorry I hurt your feelings. If you are satisfied with that performance and if this is what you enjoy, then good luck with that. YES, I know what XMA is, and NO, I did not "go out of business. To be clear, I have great respect for the ATA as well as it's Masters and Sr. Masters. When I came to the ATA I already had black belts in several hard-fist styles. No pads and full contact -- styles more suited than ATA to real fighting and defense. Like others, I returned to those styles.
wow. there's definitely a LOT of arguing in the comments below! :/.. As an instructor, I love XMA to death.. But as a Trickster, it couldn't hurt to see something a "liiiitttle" more acrobatic, ya know? I know it isn't all about acrobatics, but really.. who DOESN'T enjoy seeing a PERFECT corkscrew round kick missleg jacknife X)
wat da fuck are you talkin bout dis aint no cheerleadin do you not see dos weapons r you blind dis is martial arts karate taekwondo xma dude dis aint no "cheerleadin" if dis wuz cheerleadin den i wood say dis suck but diss is an xma demo
dude i know half of the people on team victory and they coulda been better at that demo in worlds, everyone knows that even my aunt who owns part of the schools in florida knows that
your aunt doesnt own half of victory schools not even one of themn and not karate america by master clark either so def ur lying out ur ass... yeah we could have done better but still killed the other 2 teams and that aint no ly either. so dont say ur aunt owns half the schools when she doesnt k. all jacksonville/miami/gainseville is karate america- by master clark, orlando is all master vonschmeling, tampa is all master diaz o and part of miami is by master ozuna too...
wow u guys or such fags o o dare he goes he does a backflip wooowooowooo o and by da way dis is tyler mcbride da one who whoopsur butt at xma yah woohoo my bostaff!!!!!!!!!!!
your a fag idk who u talkin bout u must be a fag i dont see you in dis vid i dont se u doin no flips so who da hell is u talkin to you must be talkin to you self you lil ugly ass gay faggot
(Cont) If u don't kno us yea we may come out that way a lil but we enjoy wat we do and love it and have fun w/ it we diff don't think we are better then any1 else..we still go and train everyday w/ ppl Like Marc C Sammy V Danny Graham Mike Cife ppl we have alot to learn...all i am saying is meet us(the whole team) and then judge us..not just on wat u see or MAY of heard..
(Cont)I understand wat every1 is saying about how we walk around and we may look all stuck up..but i have meet countless ppl who have thought that and once they meet us they said wow i'm sorry i judged u all totaly wrong..i just don't get it..
(Cont)We go and teach xma at others schools in the ATA all the time so how do we think we r better then other when we help to better others.yes we can get loud and crazy but thats cuz we are crazy about one another we sepnt HOURS together everyday..and we go crazy for every trick or form we like in ATA and open tourny..
See this is wat i dont understand.why does every1 judge us?we don't walk around thinking we are better then any1 else.we have so much respect for the other team in ATA as well as Naska teams.There has never been a moment when we have never said no to helping ppl out.
Your all very talented individuals. Each team or individuals can learn from each other. Please conduct yourselves in a respectful manner in all aspect because young and upcoming students are watching and learning. Not to mention your representing ATA and THE ART.
oh yes. i almost forgot. some words of advice: HUMBLE YOUR DAMN SELVES. your cocky attitudes make ata look so bad its not even funny. realize that there are countless teams in naska that own you and im sure you know that better than anyone. walking around like you own shit never worked for anyone and it doesnt work for you. but its so embarrasing when we're in a ring and someone from your team does something as small as landing a 540 and you all have seizures over it.
that isnt martial arts thats dancing martial arts doesnt focus on flipping and all that bullshit that you guys are focusing on youd get your ass whooped against an real martial artist.
its not supposed to have just all regular od fashion martial arts you are supposed to make your own form with music and do whatever you want to entertain the crowd. obviously you are to ignorant to know that. we do real martial arts just not when it comes to demo team so think before you speak or maybe you are speeking for yourself
Don't be sorry. This was a "Team Sychronized Form" competition. Not a "demo team" competition. At the time, it wasn't even a "Team XMA" competition. I think they've NOW thrown in some of those words. But not at the time this was performed. Oh yeah, dancing????
Actually, im going to stand by what i said but add something.
This team has a good demo, though its not actually sync. If i were them, i'd compete in team demo instead of sync until that part of the form is on point. There is some skill, yup, but i think you all are trying a bit to hard to be flashy when there is no need. 4 mins is a long time, shorten it, and it will work out better.
Its funny that, no one looks at my stuff until i "bash" them. I wasnt expecting to get much of a reply, victoryma1, but dang... im up against a member of the top team to beat. Whatever oh whatever can i dooo... *cry*
Couple of things here, and I saw you at both Vegas and L.R. First, you guys are very entertaining. But, form was supposed to be 3 min long from traditional bow in. You were over by 10 sec and should have been DQ'd. 75% supposed to be all sync'd or domino. You're not even close. Judges corrected themselves in L.R. You changed much of what you did in Vegas for Little Rock and added way too much gymnastics, in my opinion. You're still entertaining to watch.
Kick Team, Charlie Lee, and str8 up are the 3 best Team's out there..we placed 4th at the US Open benhind them 3..yes XMA is based off trad. i agree but still with XMA u are able to step outside of ur basic sidekick..this is team victory in ATA not open style...
Hm. I sorta thought Team Victory was a martial arts team rounding off point fighters, competing on circuits like Naska, Nbl, Wskf and Iska. Lots of sport karate legends too... aw well... guess there can be two.
Hell yea!! Team Victory will always b the team to beat!so stop runnin ya mouth on the computer and step out there and beat us!! Excel got lucky!! Turner, Team Victory Member..whiteboy#1
IF we wanted to get judged on basics then we would compete traditionally. sycronization yeah it was a little off but look at it this way dont dis us when we have yet to see your team and how syncronized you are once you show us and beat us then talk.
what i dont understand is that mostly everyone in ata doesnt get it, why put basics with the exception of a side kick in the xma competition? the reason behind xma is to take away from basics and do what you want make it flashy, entertaining, syncronized, and difficulty level thats what you get judged on!!! Continue next comment
Why put basics in a XMA competition? Well, because XMA stands for extreme MARTIAL ARTS... one would think there would be some solid basics. Look at who created the system, Mike Chat, one of the strongest forms and weapons competitors out there... has stated(not just him, but his student, Matt Mullens and many others).. "Flash is trash without basics."
You're taking XMA and putting a wrong meaning behind it. The meaning being XMA, whoever told you to take away from basics is a wrong. XMA is taking solid basics and mixing it with the flash, WITHOUT losing sight of the martial arts origin. I dunno how you can go out, use Team Victory as the name and then state what you did about Xma not being about basics. But fine, have it your way. The team to beat, i'll give you a small list of teams your "team victory" can go against.
ATA really overpublicizes everything when they're really pretty average(with the big cameras and everything) and the little ATA uberfans think ATA is the best because of it. and btw i was in ATA for 3 years, so i do have some idea about what im talking about with their ATA magazines and tournies.
I have to agree with previous comments. A lot of people know that your team is really talented, but the martial arts is unfortunately not so much there. I think more traditional moves need to be added, and more focus on synchronization and timing needs to occur. Either way, you guys are still amazing, and our team has yet to get close. But we will bring it in Vegas, and see you at Worlds.
Eh. Individual members of the team are very talented. But the synchronized portion of the form (which is what ATA judges are supposed to grade with the most weight) is lacking.
Some people need to grow up really. There is a difference in XMA and the traditional. It is like the difference in classical and modern music. I wouldn't use a classical instruement in a rock song, and I wouldn't use a electric guitar in a clasical song. The same works in XMA. I wouldn't go into a fight flipping and doing cartwheels and working in coreography, i would use my ATA skills, but I also wouldn't do a demo with knife hand strike, punch, reverse punch.
ghostkrashers 1 year ago
I love the demo team, XMA is really nice! just try to see if you can maked is nice to talk aboth others just try it
leliprinsesa 2 years ago
UH OH!!! LIL off there!!
dancinchck 2 years ago
my cheerleading name is victory
lol
kailynandalli 2 years ago
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This is fucking gay :/
S1L3nCe 2 years ago
god the annoying bitches in the background are gonna make me tear the hair out of my head
ggNATAKUgg 2 years ago
this is shit; not martial arts. if you call yourself a master, and you do xma, you are the biggest joke a human can be. to think i had respect for this shit.
ggNATAKUgg 2 years ago
i agree. i am a blackbelt in martial arts, and have always thought the ATA demos were a joke. expecially the xma. it does take a great deal of athleticism to do this stuff, but its not practical, it lacks technique, and its giving the public a false sense of what martial arts really is.
TGMONEYproductions 2 years ago 3
and ur videos are??
corkscrewkid 2 years ago
vic-tory vic-tory vic-tory vic-tory :D
puremonk444 2 years ago
this was a great demo the best part was when u all said "Master Silva this is for you!" that was great Rest in peace sir u are missed by all. overall it came out really decent screw the haters team victory keep doing your thing!
alexanderabreucastro 2 years ago
i used to be on this demo team. this is the same demo they've always done, just slightly modified.
Winston Taylor.... as sloppy as ever :p
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago
Great gymnastics. I think you gave a better performance than you give yourself credit for.
But this is not martial arts.
This style of choreography is not even close to kata training. The moves you are being taught are dance, not self-defense skills.
What XMA is is the cheap dumbing down of martial arts, which is having devastating impact on the martial arts world. XMA is making legitimate martial arts look impractical and silly.
But great gymnastics. Congratulations, I guess.
thebendersen124 3 years ago 4
Ok so obviously u are ignorant to the fact that xma is martial arts on a entertainment level.... It's not meant to be something that is going to save ur life it's suppose to take the basic moves and evolve it and make a show with it then just the same boring form every time... It is to help u think outside the box and be creative...we do acrobatics and dance and martial arts all in one form for entertainment... Thank u for the compliments and now maybe u learned something.
victoryma1 3 years ago
I agree with thebendersen124. Its really good what you are doing out there. But the spirit and the reason you learned it, its gonna be lost in this type of performance. Karate should be fun but it has to make sence. So to train karate without thinking about fighting, self defence etc. (you know what I mean) you cannot call karate. Call it gymnastics or trixter performance. But not karate.
jujutsugirl82 2 years ago
@thebendersen124 cuz ur just jealours u cant do that
itme20 9 months ago
@itme20 Yes and no. I think what you guys in the XMA world do is awesome, and I really would love to learn some of it. I just think it's too bad that we can't find a meeting in the middle. I choreograph for my dojo too, but we try to keep the vocabulary in the realm of what you find in traditional kata. The purpose of kata in the traditional martial arts is to practice self-defense techniques in a structural and aesthetic way. To victoryma1's point, it's about putting the art in martial arts.
thebendersen124 9 months ago
So to that extent, the fact that XMA has gone one step further and explored the flips and tricks is fantastic for the martial arts -- if you don't lose the quality of the technique when you're not mid-air. Take the kata Unsu -- it's not one I've ever studied, but I've seen videos and it's awesome. There is an aerial move in the kata where you jump and do a 180 turn and land on one knee. XMA takes that idea and expands on it. I just don't like it when the techniques on the ground become sloppy.
thebendersen124 9 months ago
So, in an ideal world for me, XMA needs to go back to its traditional martial arts roots and relearn the point of those kicks and those blocks and those stances that you do when you're not doing crazy flips. And in exchange, I think us in the traditional martial arts world need to loosen up on the subject of the gymnastics.
thebendersen124 9 months ago
great performance!
I myself am in XMA!
I hope you guys win in worlds in 2009 :)
-mark
markprodtv 3 years ago
does no one leave a mature comment that remains relevant to the performance? it was good, kicks my ass off the planet lol,
classiklinger 3 years ago
Nice cartwheels and twirling. The flips would be nice if even half of them were landed properly. Alas, this is NOT gymnastics or cheerleading (or is it?!). As a former high ranking black belt instructor (and student of an ATA senior master) with the ATA, I looked with dismay at the lack of proper stances and execution of techniques in this "demonstration". This is why I left ATA and returned to teaching full contact street fighting and combat styles of martial arts.
SBronxNYC 3 years ago
everyone has there opinion but make sure you know what xma is before you start judging anything. As a ata instructor myself under SR. Master Von Schmeling, yeah that wasnt our best performance but we still went out there and wowed the crowd. im not so sure u didnt stay cause of that u didnt stay cause u couldnt do that or help run a school which is why u went out of business!!!
victoryma1 3 years ago
Victoryma: Sorry I hurt your feelings. If you are satisfied with that performance and if this is what you enjoy, then good luck with that. YES, I know what XMA is, and NO, I did not "go out of business. To be clear, I have great respect for the ATA as well as it's Masters and Sr. Masters. When I came to the ATA I already had black belts in several hard-fist styles. No pads and full contact -- styles more suited than ATA to real fighting and defense. Like others, I returned to those styles.
SBronxNYC 3 years ago
good..well keep ur comments on those styles.. let us do us and u do u
corkscrewkid 3 years ago
wow. there's definitely a LOT of arguing in the comments below! :/.. As an instructor, I love XMA to death.. But as a Trickster, it couldn't hurt to see something a "liiiitttle" more acrobatic, ya know? I know it isn't all about acrobatics, but really.. who DOESN'T enjoy seeing a PERFECT corkscrew round kick missleg jacknife X)
TheReapersScythe1 3 years ago
im camo belt
I know ill be as good as them just wait and see
Orlando FL Victory
imma join XMA soon ^_^ yeah!!
winterwolve1 3 years ago
Nice cheerleading.
streetkunedo 4 years ago
wat da fuck are you talkin bout dis aint no cheerleadin do you not see dos weapons r you blind dis is martial arts karate taekwondo xma dude dis aint no "cheerleadin" if dis wuz cheerleadin den i wood say dis suck but diss is an xma demo
nejisfangirl 4 years ago
HOLY SHIT THE SCREAMINGS ANNOYING, but the little girl is soooooo cute XD
gabbybean2 4 years ago
dude i know half of the people on team victory and they coulda been better at that demo in worlds, everyone knows that even my aunt who owns part of the schools in florida knows that
flippie0350 4 years ago
your aunt doesnt own half of victory schools not even one of themn and not karate america by master clark either so def ur lying out ur ass... yeah we could have done better but still killed the other 2 teams and that aint no ly either. so dont say ur aunt owns half the schools when she doesnt k. all jacksonville/miami/gainseville is karate america- by master clark, orlando is all master vonschmeling, tampa is all master diaz o and part of miami is by master ozuna too...
victoryma1 3 years ago
wow u guys or such fags o o dare he goes he does a backflip wooowooowooo o and by da way dis is tyler mcbride da one who whoopsur butt at xma yah woohoo my bostaff!!!!!!!!!!!
tdmcbride 4 years ago
Tyler u will lose to any1 of us...lets b real
corkscrewkid 4 years ago
cmon get real i could beat u i a heartbeat
gabbybean2 4 years ago
get a life man these kids are sick i would like to see u do that
squigglzzz59 4 years ago
im wit u all the way bro sqigglezzz59 rocks my tubesocks jk lol
gabbybean2 4 years ago
your a fag idk who u talkin bout u must be a fag i dont see you in dis vid i dont se u doin no flips so who da hell is u talkin to you must be talkin to you self you lil ugly ass gay faggot
nejisfangirl 4 years ago
(Cont) If u don't kno us yea we may come out that way a lil but we enjoy wat we do and love it and have fun w/ it we diff don't think we are better then any1 else..we still go and train everyday w/ ppl Like Marc C Sammy V Danny Graham Mike Cife ppl we have alot to learn...all i am saying is meet us(the whole team) and then judge us..not just on wat u see or MAY of heard..
Evan Turner
corkscrewkid 4 years ago
(Cont)I understand wat every1 is saying about how we walk around and we may look all stuck up..but i have meet countless ppl who have thought that and once they meet us they said wow i'm sorry i judged u all totaly wrong..i just don't get it..
corkscrewkid 4 years ago
(Cont)We go and teach xma at others schools in the ATA all the time so how do we think we r better then other when we help to better others.yes we can get loud and crazy but thats cuz we are crazy about one another we sepnt HOURS together everyday..and we go crazy for every trick or form we like in ATA and open tourny..
corkscrewkid 4 years ago
See this is wat i dont understand.why does every1 judge us?we don't walk around thinking we are better then any1 else.we have so much respect for the other team in ATA as well as Naska teams.There has never been a moment when we have never said no to helping ppl out.
corkscrewkid 4 years ago
Your all very talented individuals. Each team or individuals can learn from each other. Please conduct yourselves in a respectful manner in all aspect because young and upcoming students are watching and learning. Not to mention your representing ATA and THE ART.
mew1222 4 years ago
thank u for putting that in a good way i know just what u mean!! i will i wish alot of people could learn how to word things like u just did.
victoryma1 4 years ago
oh yes. i almost forgot. some words of advice: HUMBLE YOUR DAMN SELVES. your cocky attitudes make ata look so bad its not even funny. realize that there are countless teams in naska that own you and im sure you know that better than anyone. walking around like you own shit never worked for anyone and it doesnt work for you. but its so embarrasing when we're in a ring and someone from your team does something as small as landing a 540 and you all have seizures over it.
HILARIOUS. TRULY.
<3
farrahlove 4 years ago
good job.though at us open 2006 charlie lee's and K.I.C.K team pretty much owned victory.
love ata..but this isn't you got served.
farrahlove 4 years ago
please tell me u guys are gonna put the worlds one on here! i saw team flows one for nationals and worlds! theyre.... ok... not very good but yea....
victorygirl4eva1 4 years ago
hey victory! good luck in arkansas! i wish i could be there to support u! <3 victory girl,erica
teamvictorygirl4eva1 4 years ago
Well Ms Erica if this is the erica i know to me you will always be a victory gurl so good luck
Kamaqueen14 4 years ago
that isnt martial arts thats dancing martial arts doesnt focus on flipping and all that bullshit that you guys are focusing on youd get your ass whooped against an real martial artist.
PxIxSxSxOxFxF101 4 years ago
its not supposed to have just all regular od fashion martial arts you are supposed to make your own form with music and do whatever you want to entertain the crowd. obviously you are to ignorant to know that. we do real martial arts just not when it comes to demo team so think before you speak or maybe you are speeking for yourself
victoryma1 4 years ago
i am sorry my mistake
PxIxSxSxOxFxF101 4 years ago
Don't be sorry. This was a "Team Sychronized Form" competition. Not a "demo team" competition. At the time, it wasn't even a "Team XMA" competition. I think they've NOW thrown in some of those words. But not at the time this was performed. Oh yeah, dancing????
matkd70 4 years ago
work on bows...make moves more distict...it isn't all about the flips..they are cool btw but work on technique!!!!!!!!!
Rambo0917 4 years ago
thats funny!!! yeah yeah i know it was bad but i will still take that as it was a joke!!!
VIctory
victoryma1 4 years ago
*sigh* xma....when will everyone see what other martial artists see dumb about xma
wingedsoul 5 years ago
Actually, im going to stand by what i said but add something.
This team has a good demo, though its not actually sync. If i were them, i'd compete in team demo instead of sync until that part of the form is on point. There is some skill, yup, but i think you all are trying a bit to hard to be flashy when there is no need. 4 mins is a long time, shorten it, and it will work out better.
AzHarris 5 years ago
the demo is actually 3 min
victoryma1 5 years ago
Its funny that, no one looks at my stuff until i "bash" them. I wasnt expecting to get much of a reply, victoryma1, but dang... im up against a member of the top team to beat. Whatever oh whatever can i dooo... *cry*
AzHarris 5 years ago
Couple of things here, and I saw you at both Vegas and L.R. First, you guys are very entertaining. But, form was supposed to be 3 min long from traditional bow in. You were over by 10 sec and should have been DQ'd. 75% supposed to be all sync'd or domino. You're not even close. Judges corrected themselves in L.R. You changed much of what you did in Vegas for Little Rock and added way too much gymnastics, in my opinion. You're still entertaining to watch.
matkd70 5 years ago
Kick Team, Charlie Lee, and str8 up are the 3 best Team's out there..we placed 4th at the US Open benhind them 3..yes XMA is based off trad. i agree but still with XMA u are able to step outside of ur basic sidekick..this is team victory in ATA not open style...
corkscrewkid 5 years ago
Hm. I sorta thought Team Victory was a martial arts team rounding off point fighters, competing on circuits like Naska, Nbl, Wskf and Iska. Lots of sport karate legends too... aw well... guess there can be two.
AzHarris 5 years ago
talent's not too bad... synchronization is what killed me here... and kill the dancing. PLEASE
pr0ud2bap1n0y 5 years ago
omfg screams are sounds are f`n annoying, perfomance for mentally ill zoo prisoners? good perfomance though
abldabl 5 years ago
Hell yea!! Team Victory will always b the team to beat!so stop runnin ya mouth on the computer and step out there and beat us!! Excel got lucky!! Turner, Team Victory Member..whiteboy#1
corkscrewkid 5 years ago
IF we wanted to get judged on basics then we would compete traditionally. sycronization yeah it was a little off but look at it this way dont dis us when we have yet to see your team and how syncronized you are once you show us and beat us then talk.
TEAM VICTORY OUT!!!!
victoryma1 5 years ago
K.I.C.K Team
Team Charlie Lee
Prorank(04-06) Kalman Csoka and Marcel Jones(REAL team sync)
Team JPM Daniel Sterling and Matt Emig
Team JPM Steve Terada and Rudy Reynon
Team Straight Up demo squad
Have your pick. Good luck.
AzHarris 5 years ago
what i dont understand is that mostly everyone in ata doesnt get it, why put basics with the exception of a side kick in the xma competition? the reason behind xma is to take away from basics and do what you want make it flashy, entertaining, syncronized, and difficulty level thats what you get judged on!!! Continue next comment
victoryma1 5 years ago
Why put basics in a XMA competition? Well, because XMA stands for extreme MARTIAL ARTS... one would think there would be some solid basics. Look at who created the system, Mike Chat, one of the strongest forms and weapons competitors out there... has stated(not just him, but his student, Matt Mullens and many others).. "Flash is trash without basics."
AzHarris 5 years ago
You're taking XMA and putting a wrong meaning behind it. The meaning being XMA, whoever told you to take away from basics is a wrong. XMA is taking solid basics and mixing it with the flash, WITHOUT losing sight of the martial arts origin. I dunno how you can go out, use Team Victory as the name and then state what you did about Xma not being about basics. But fine, have it your way. The team to beat, i'll give you a small list of teams your "team victory" can go against.
AzHarris 5 years ago
They have good skills, but i think
ATA really overpublicizes everything when they're really pretty average(with the big cameras and everything) and the little ATA uberfans think ATA is the best because of it. and btw i was in ATA for 3 years, so i do have some idea about what im talking about with their ATA magazines and tournies.
vietdong21 5 years ago
I have to agree with previous comments. A lot of people know that your team is really talented, but the martial arts is unfortunately not so much there. I think more traditional moves need to be added, and more focus on synchronization and timing needs to occur. Either way, you guys are still amazing, and our team has yet to get close. But we will bring it in Vegas, and see you at Worlds.
Best of Luck!
tgx2a 5 years ago
We killed in Vegas...got cheated at Worlds..came back and won in Orlando...this Worlds it will turn out the right way..i'll put money on it!!
Evan Turner...Victory Whiteboy #1
corkscrewkid 5 years ago
too much dancing,not enough martial arts.
vietnamhippie 5 years ago
Eh. Individual members of the team are very talented. But the synchronized portion of the form (which is what ATA judges are supposed to grade with the most weight) is lacking.
Still, nice job guys :)
redlion145 5 years ago
pmg stop to screaming stfu !!!!
chickenninja 5 years ago
Team Victory all day everyday!! We put on the show of the weekend!
Turner
corkscrewkid 5 years ago
WHOOO!!!!!
I thought you guys should of won...
ATAxmaGURL 5 years ago