why have you cyclists declared war on motorists. Honestly, every little indiscretion by a motorist becomes amajor issue with you lot. Loud hooters, cameras and running commentary with vehicle reg numbers. You lot havne got number plates and the number of times RECENTLY that Ive been cut up or inconvenienced by a damn cyclist I am unable to report you. WE have to put up with it.
Doesn't look like a particularly safe road - is there an alternative route? You may have the right to ride on this sort of road, but I tend to avoid them - fast traffic and for some reason drivers are terrified of crossing the line into the next lane.
Gay horn. Bet you've tassels hanging out the handle bars and playing cards in the spokes to make a burring noise. What sort of no life knob films his bike rides?
It is not "Road Tax" so your comment regarding the fact that you don't damage the road is void. Do you enjoy the road signs? Do you like the road to be swept? Do you like to see cycle lanes provided (not that you use them)?
More importantly, your statement that cyclists obey the highway code is so funny I laughed all the way to work...
@toniWB I generally don't like cycle lanes (complete waste of money - just improve the road surfaces for all) as they are generally inadequate for use. I am also pretty sure I could function without any road signs, however 'road tax'; roads are paid for out of general taxation (eg. our income tax). Some vehicles pay for their emissions (my motorbike included). Road tax is not enough to fund the roads. annndd Certainly not all road users obey the hwc. It's not just a cycling issue.......
@toniWB .....this is not an cyclists Vs them thing. I can drive and ride a motorbike, have insurance for cycling & motorcycling. I pay "road tax" where necessary. It's much more a good road users VS bad road users...And I am sure as an LGV instructor you witness inconsiderate driving/riding from all groups of vehicle/cycle users - not just one group.
@danny27404 Actually, I have third party insurance and legal protection. So in event of an accident my liability is fully covered, and I have legal aid to pursue a claim against anyone at fault. You'll find most cyclists will be insured as standard under their home insurance (personal liability insurance), I also have CTC cover, as mentioned. Annnnnddd bicycles are "road tax" empt before you start thinking that (just like many "eco" cars)
Nothing wrong with that the driver gave you plenty of space , it seems you was taking up all the road anyway , get a bus next time or ride your bike when the public highways are not busy , regards .
hahahaha thomase why dont you walk to work in your huge sperm stained bulgarian shoes..... they would overtake the tesco lorry thats overtaking the c90....BELLEND
a think that bikes should be taxed and insured to use the road or they should just shut up a drive a truck and often meet bikes runing 2 or 3 a breast if ur on the road u should take ur chance like abody else
@TheBuff07 What a stupid comment. We don't need to pay road tax, as we don't damage the road. Cyclists still have to follow the Highway Code, or are subject to fines. Insurance is a good idea though -- I have public liability insurance along with theft insurance. It's nice to know that if some granny or a kid walks out in front of me without warning I'm covered... But as a cyclist I'm not going to kill a car driver out of impatience.
I passed first time, have had my license for 3 years, covering over 5500 miles a month, yourself ? typical dickhead statement from a boy behind a screen.
@leewink Yep very. That video wasn't even in rush hour. :P
Don't normally have a problem with the standard of driving from lorry drivers. Recently bought a Honda C90 and on duel carriageways (etc) lorries do overtake as it is quite slow. All pass and pull in having given lots of room. Similar experiences on the bicycle...however the bad overtakes are a lot more memorable, even if (thankfully) rarer.
your in hardly a good road position to judge, try avoiding the road in future cos you seem to have a problem with ANY traffic, like most do gooder bikes, I would of done the same thing, because id check my mirror once to see ive passed you wide enough which he had, if you swing out toward me, thats your action not mine, and certainly one that doesnt need another "poor truck driving vid" here.
@leewink I didn't swing out. The road curves round so perhaps that's why you think that. In reality I would have swerved towards the kerb to give myself more room.
Perhaps you think what ended up as a foot or two is fine, but when it happened I had no idea where the trailer would end up. If you watch my videos there are some (from the same road) of very good truck driving.
Tesco's apologised for the driving in the video anyway.
im afraid its each man for his own out on the road, thats just how it is nowadays, oh and for the record i drive artics for a living and ride a pushbike, u ride a bike on the road in the knowledge that an accident may well happen
@kerednotsobig1 Yep. The reason for being there is because I was on a duel carriageway it stops people trying to squeeze past in the same lane (so, if I was on the far left, a car in the outside lane...to stop people trying to squeeze in between). It's also meant to help stop stuff like in the video, but obviously doesn't always :)
Had I not been further into the lane he would have most likely overtaken closer, but I would not of had the space to pull into and slow down to avoid his trailer.
your one of those annoyin pricks on a push bike that goes out there way to make a big issue out of fuckal grow a set and stop complaining.your the one that chose to use a bike so youll use it at a risk of being run down or a risk of bein injured.and to have a cam on ur helmet well thats just geeky llf iv usually got a cam on my helmet but it aint a fuckin bike helmet.its a helmet thats hanging out the arse of your bird.llf :)
I am a driver myself, not for a crapy companies as Tesco's but anyway i do NOT see a problem in this video, sometimes that happens, you were cleverer and saw what is coming... I can tell with confidence, i have seen many more car drivers making me accidental situations, especially sunday drivers and salesmen... In conclusion i must say, accidents happens, you can not do anything about it...
@Choranas If I hadn't reacted the trailer could of hit, or killed me. That's more than just an 'accident'.
This was completely avoided, if the driver either used the other lane and didn't pull back in till past me...or just waited till after the lights. Neither would of taken much time, but would have been a lot safer and stop this happening.
Trailer number wont get you far, my dad is Tesco lorry driver you should have got the time it happened and the reg from the cab of the truck then you could have rang the Transport Office to complain the clerks would have handled him.
@014034 I rang their "how's my driving line" with the time, location, numberplate, reg number...etc.
I think they spoke to the driver about my complaint, but unfortunately they (as far as I know) never saw the video. This happened ages ago so I forget exactly what they said.
im more shocked a tesco lorry was over taking anything. i normally get stuck behind one of these doing 50 on the motorway. i think this should be an educational video for tesco new drivers.
Well, I would hope it was a mistake and not intentional! Either way a bit more care was needed from the driver - I don't fancy being hit or run over next time he doesn't judge his trailer correctly.
I tried to reply to this yesterday, but my message didn't get through :(.
Basically I said the worst part is, is that I've lost a sense of trust around lorry drivers now and have become a little bit over protective of the road when they're behind. This ended up with my loosing my cool the other day, but in my fairness the driver couldn't overtake safely at any point up and until his overtake - and when he did overtake it did it in the stupidest place.
...and I had to swerve and brake to avoid him (it was only a little inflated van type lorry). Unfortunately, the film was awful. As I was on my mountain bike as the camera's position was well out so didn't really show what happened - just a lot of footage that'd need bleeping out :P
The worst HGV overtake I've had was this one:
(search: VERY Close Overtake by HGV )
That still sends shivers down my spine watching it. I'm honestly surprised I didn't become road kill from that one.
Just reassure yourself with the knowledge that HGV drivers are better trained than normal bloke-in-car types. There is (usually) a little bit more skill involved in drving them.
Okay, I've contacted Tesco's "well driven" line and they will pass it onto the Transport manager. In around a week or so I should have a response to it.
Got a letter back today. It says they've identified the driver, he was operating out of their distribution centre and they have made it clear they they do not condone this type of behaviour to the driver. They have apologised "for any distress or inconvenience you may have been caused".
Was signed with an actual pen too.
Didn't even get a chance to show off my video! My name was spelt wrong, but I think that was probably the lady on the well driven line not paying attention.
haha what are you on about you cant compare an out of control car to an in control lorry. what about the other vehicles overtaking they nearly hit him as well but didnt.
...following on, it doesn't really matter if you think bicycles should be allowed there, the point is I am allowed and the Tesco's lorry overtook and pulled in very dangerously.
How did ANY of the cars nearly hit me? The lorry didn't hit me because I went towards the kerb and braked. All the cars used the other lane to overtake so were a safe distance away. When was the last time you ever rode a bike?
It's not dangerous if people use the roads correctly and patiently (and I don't just mean drivers!).
Scientifically, the benefits to your health out way all other risks associated with cycling. I don't have the article to hand, but a quick google would find that.
everyone is in a rush these days I dont know why, but anyway these people will do stupid and dangerous things just to get to where they are going 5 seconds quicker. so i believe the car to be the safest option
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
what are you doing driving with a camera in your hand and so slowly a tesco truck passes you? must be a 35mph driver for tesco to pass you! get an accelerator!!!!!
why have you cyclists declared war on motorists. Honestly, every little indiscretion by a motorist becomes amajor issue with you lot. Loud hooters, cameras and running commentary with vehicle reg numbers. You lot havne got number plates and the number of times RECENTLY that Ive been cut up or inconvenienced by a damn cyclist I am unable to report you. WE have to put up with it.
labyonnette 2 months ago
Doesn't look like a particularly safe road - is there an alternative route? You may have the right to ride on this sort of road, but I tend to avoid them - fast traffic and for some reason drivers are terrified of crossing the line into the next lane.
KarlOnSea 4 months ago
jeez how much road do you need? seems like it should be you giving other's some space.
altern8ive 5 months ago
Gay horn. Bet you've tassels hanging out the handle bars and playing cards in the spokes to make a burring noise. What sort of no life knob films his bike rides?
stroppidawg 6 months ago
@stroppidawg and a pair of stablizers too, lol
MrUtilityBill 2 months ago
buy a car and pay road tax
badgern100 7 months ago
It is not "Road Tax" so your comment regarding the fact that you don't damage the road is void. Do you enjoy the road signs? Do you like the road to be swept? Do you like to see cycle lanes provided (not that you use them)?
More importantly, your statement that cyclists obey the highway code is so funny I laughed all the way to work...
As an LGV instructor!
toniWB 7 months ago
@toniWB I generally don't like cycle lanes (complete waste of money - just improve the road surfaces for all) as they are generally inadequate for use. I am also pretty sure I could function without any road signs, however 'road tax'; roads are paid for out of general taxation (eg. our income tax). Some vehicles pay for their emissions (my motorbike included). Road tax is not enough to fund the roads. annndd Certainly not all road users obey the hwc. It's not just a cycling issue.......
thomase1 7 months ago
@toniWB .....this is not an cyclists Vs them thing. I can drive and ride a motorbike, have insurance for cycling & motorcycling. I pay "road tax" where necessary. It's much more a good road users VS bad road users...And I am sure as an LGV instructor you witness inconsiderate driving/riding from all groups of vehicle/cycle users - not just one group.
thomase1 7 months ago
Bloody cyclists think they own the road. Get some insurance on the bike then whinge
danny27404 8 months ago
@danny27404 Actually, I have third party insurance and legal protection. So in event of an accident my liability is fully covered, and I have legal aid to pursue a claim against anyone at fault. You'll find most cyclists will be insured as standard under their home insurance (personal liability insurance), I also have CTC cover, as mentioned. Annnnnddd bicycles are "road tax" empt before you start thinking that (just like many "eco" cars)
thomase1 8 months ago 2
Nothing wrong with that the driver gave you plenty of space , it seems you was taking up all the road anyway , get a bus next time or ride your bike when the public highways are not busy , regards .
Albert18264 8 months ago
hahahaha thomase why dont you walk to work in your huge sperm stained bulgarian shoes..... they would overtake the tesco lorry thats overtaking the c90....BELLEND
laines444 8 months ago
And why was you going that slow a truck manages to overtake you? esp a tesco truck!!!
danny27404 9 months ago
you are fucking dickhead
pietrakov 9 months ago
your a prick
lotsof99s 10 months ago
a think that bikes should be taxed and insured to use the road or they should just shut up a drive a truck and often meet bikes runing 2 or 3 a breast if ur on the road u should take ur chance like abody else
TheBuff07 1 year ago
@TheBuff07 I am insured thanks....and I pay tax on a motorbike, where as like some cars, my bicycle is exempt.
thomase1 1 year ago
@TheBuff07 What a stupid comment. We don't need to pay road tax, as we don't damage the road. Cyclists still have to follow the Highway Code, or are subject to fines. Insurance is a good idea though -- I have public liability insurance along with theft insurance. It's nice to know that if some granny or a kid walks out in front of me without warning I'm covered... But as a cyclist I'm not going to kill a car driver out of impatience.
CJBrewification 1 year ago
hi tomarse. sorry mate but had to google honda c90 then fell on the floor in stitches. nice horn by the way 10 4
TheHairybaz 1 year ago
too bad he didnt take you to tesco with him
chakotay2007 1 year ago 2
@chakotay2007 If he had I might have got to work on time for once :)
thomase1 1 year ago
horn sounds gay
SuperMole666 1 year ago
I passed first time, have had my license for 3 years, covering over 5500 miles a month, yourself ? typical dickhead statement from a boy behind a screen.
leewink 1 year ago
fair play to them then, looks a busy road though chap, take care, lee
leewink 1 year ago
@leewink Yep very. That video wasn't even in rush hour. :P
Don't normally have a problem with the standard of driving from lorry drivers. Recently bought a Honda C90 and on duel carriageways (etc) lorries do overtake as it is quite slow. All pass and pull in having given lots of room. Similar experiences on the bicycle...however the bad overtakes are a lot more memorable, even if (thankfully) rarer.
thomase1 1 year ago
your in hardly a good road position to judge, try avoiding the road in future cos you seem to have a problem with ANY traffic, like most do gooder bikes, I would of done the same thing, because id check my mirror once to see ive passed you wide enough which he had, if you swing out toward me, thats your action not mine, and certainly one that doesnt need another "poor truck driving vid" here.
leewink 1 year ago
@leewink I didn't swing out. The road curves round so perhaps that's why you think that. In reality I would have swerved towards the kerb to give myself more room.
Perhaps you think what ended up as a foot or two is fine, but when it happened I had no idea where the trailer would end up. If you watch my videos there are some (from the same road) of very good truck driving.
Tesco's apologised for the driving in the video anyway.
thomase1 1 year ago
@leewink
Where did you win your license?
BeeryUSA 1 year ago
lol at an idiot cyclist with a horn on his bike, you dont pay road tax get off the bloddy road, worse than caravans.
martinDynamique 1 year ago 2
eat or be eatin llf
traynoro1 1 year ago
ban cyclists i hate them
amfwelsh 1 year ago
@amfwelsh That's nice.
thomase1 1 year ago
@amfwelsh i agree
m648mvp 1 year ago
Get the at of the middle of the road and then other road user who pay to be on the road wont get so close.
Your right in the middle what do you expect!
oedixey 1 year ago
im afraid its each man for his own out on the road, thats just how it is nowadays, oh and for the record i drive artics for a living and ride a pushbike, u ride a bike on the road in the knowledge that an accident may well happen
Lymingeman 1 year ago
@Lymingeman Maybe so, but I also go out looking to avoid accidents. I guess when you're driving your artic you'd do the same.
Accidents can happen on the road, but that doesn't excuse poor driving.
thomase1 1 year ago
@kerednotsobig1 Yep. The reason for being there is because I was on a duel carriageway it stops people trying to squeeze past in the same lane (so, if I was on the far left, a car in the outside lane...to stop people trying to squeeze in between). It's also meant to help stop stuff like in the video, but obviously doesn't always :)
Had I not been further into the lane he would have most likely overtaken closer, but I would not of had the space to pull into and slow down to avoid his trailer.
thomase1 1 year ago
your one of those annoyin pricks on a push bike that goes out there way to make a big issue out of fuckal grow a set and stop complaining.your the one that chose to use a bike so youll use it at a risk of being run down or a risk of bein injured.and to have a cam on ur helmet well thats just geeky llf iv usually got a cam on my helmet but it aint a fuckin bike helmet.its a helmet thats hanging out the arse of your bird.llf :)
traynoro1 1 year ago
@kerednotsobig1 I was cycling, and it's attached to my helmet. Nothing naughty about it :)
thomase1 1 year ago
I am a driver myself, not for a crapy companies as Tesco's but anyway i do NOT see a problem in this video, sometimes that happens, you were cleverer and saw what is coming... I can tell with confidence, i have seen many more car drivers making me accidental situations, especially sunday drivers and salesmen... In conclusion i must say, accidents happens, you can not do anything about it...
Choranas 2 years ago
@Choranas If I hadn't reacted the trailer could of hit, or killed me. That's more than just an 'accident'.
This was completely avoided, if the driver either used the other lane and didn't pull back in till past me...or just waited till after the lights. Neither would of taken much time, but would have been a lot safer and stop this happening.
thomase1 2 years ago
Trailer number wont get you far, my dad is Tesco lorry driver you should have got the time it happened and the reg from the cab of the truck then you could have rang the Transport Office to complain the clerks would have handled him.
014034 2 years ago
@014034 I rang their "how's my driving line" with the time, location, numberplate, reg number...etc.
I think they spoke to the driver about my complaint, but unfortunately they (as far as I know) never saw the video. This happened ages ago so I forget exactly what they said.
thomase1 2 years ago
Where do you life? I will know which depot that driver is from
014034 2 years ago
@014034 The depot would have been between West Byfleet and Leatherhead. It was just before the A3, where the driver went towards London.
It happened on the A245 (Surrey)
thomase1 2 years ago
Most likely to be a Weybridge driver - possibly a Southampton driver but most likely Weybridge!
014034 2 years ago
im more shocked a tesco lorry was over taking anything. i normally get stuck behind one of these doing 50 on the motorway. i think this should be an educational video for tesco new drivers.
schmitzfh 2 years ago
He probably couldn't see the arse of his trailer and thought that he already past you.
GerryTheDriver 2 years ago
Well, I would hope it was a mistake and not intentional! Either way a bit more care was needed from the driver - I don't fancy being hit or run over next time he doesn't judge his trailer correctly.
thomase1 2 years ago
Comment removed
GerryTheDriver 2 years ago
I would agree with you Gerry. A good driver knows the length.. as well as the girth, haha.
downfader2 2 years ago
I tried to reply to this yesterday, but my message didn't get through :(.
Basically I said the worst part is, is that I've lost a sense of trust around lorry drivers now and have become a little bit over protective of the road when they're behind. This ended up with my loosing my cool the other day, but in my fairness the driver couldn't overtake safely at any point up and until his overtake - and when he did overtake it did it in the stupidest place.
thomase1 2 years ago
...and I had to swerve and brake to avoid him (it was only a little inflated van type lorry). Unfortunately, the film was awful. As I was on my mountain bike as the camera's position was well out so didn't really show what happened - just a lot of footage that'd need bleeping out :P
The worst HGV overtake I've had was this one:
(search: VERY Close Overtake by HGV )
That still sends shivers down my spine watching it. I'm honestly surprised I didn't become road kill from that one.
thomase1 2 years ago
In the scheme of things, I'd rather be overtaken by most lorry drivers and have got positive experiences. It's just a shame when a few bad apples....
thomase1 2 years ago
Just reassure yourself with the knowledge that HGV drivers are better trained than normal bloke-in-car types. There is (usually) a little bit more skill involved in drving them.
downfader2 2 years ago
Comment removed
liam3689 2 years ago
grreeeaattt. Do you try to drive over tourists as well? Moron.
thomase1 2 years ago
Seeing as you've recorded your trucking journey (no thats not meant to be rhyming slang I promise) you're hardly one to talk
;-)
It aint funny saying crap like that, Liam.
downfader2 2 years ago
HAHA, I didn't see that :P. Niiccceeee.
thomase1 2 years ago
haha, he removed his comment. The funnier thing with his videos is, he seems to be holding the camera rather than having it mounted - how amateur :P
thomase1 2 years ago
Haha! Maybe he's realised that videos like this get checked upon now and again, and promoting stupidity like that comes back to haunt you.
I dont think he was hand-holding the camera in the vid I watched. I think his mount was wobbling a bit instead.
downfader2 2 years ago
Okay, I've contacted Tesco's "well driven" line and they will pass it onto the Transport manager. In around a week or so I should have a response to it.
thomase1 2 years ago
Look forward to their reply!
finbat 2 years ago
Got a letter back today. It says they've identified the driver, he was operating out of their distribution centre and they have made it clear they they do not condone this type of behaviour to the driver. They have apologised "for any distress or inconvenience you may have been caused".
Was signed with an actual pen too.
Didn't even get a chance to show off my video! My name was spelt wrong, but I think that was probably the lady on the well driven line not paying attention.
thomase1 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
did he hit you? no. now stop whining.
mac1683 2 years ago
That's such a stupid and ignorant way of looking at it. let's just do what we want because the worst case outcome, MIGHT not happen.
The point is, that kind of overtake could be very dangerous and it could do a lot more than hit me.
thomase1 2 years ago
Ah yes, the 'You're still alive, what's the problem?' approach that works so well in assessing danger.
A car spins out of control on a bend at twice the speed limit, narrowly missing a group of schoolchildren standing on the pavement.
As the car didn't hit them, there are no grounds for complaint.
It's certainly a novel way of tackling road safety.
markf1979 2 years ago
Until the children get hit and there isn't a higher moral ground..."Oh well, usually they would be fine".
thomase1 2 years ago
ohh, whoops! Sorry, I thought your comment was from the same guy hence I missed the sarcasm...sorry!
thomase1 2 years ago
Unfortunately it's sometimes quite hard to tell the difference...
Some of these people are beyond parody! : )
markf1979 2 years ago
haha, seems some other people haven't gathered it was a joke either as you've got a few thumbs down :D:D
thomase1 2 years ago
haha what are you on about you cant compare an out of control car to an in control lorry. what about the other vehicles overtaking they nearly hit him as well but didnt.
mac1683 2 years ago
also I think bikes should not be allowed on dual carriageways, they are not allowed on motorways and it is the same speed limit.
mac1683 2 years ago
...following on, it doesn't really matter if you think bicycles should be allowed there, the point is I am allowed and the Tesco's lorry overtook and pulled in very dangerously.
thomase1 2 years ago
How did ANY of the cars nearly hit me? The lorry didn't hit me because I went towards the kerb and braked. All the cars used the other lane to overtake so were a safe distance away. When was the last time you ever rode a bike?
thomase1 2 years ago
I dont cos its too dangerouse on the roads today. I stick to my car
mac1683 2 years ago
It's not dangerous if people use the roads correctly and patiently (and I don't just mean drivers!).
Scientifically, the benefits to your health out way all other risks associated with cycling. I don't have the article to hand, but a quick google would find that.
thomase1 2 years ago
everyone is in a rush these days I dont know why, but anyway these people will do stupid and dangerous things just to get to where they are going 5 seconds quicker. so i believe the car to be the safest option
mac1683 2 years ago
So do you agree that the Tesco's lorry made a dangerous overtake then? If not then with your attitude the roads are 100% safe.
thomase1 2 years ago
I doubt he heard the airzound !
mrcellophane99 2 years ago
hmm, dunno. At that stage he probably wouldn't of cared if it was 10x louder
thomase1 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
what are you doing driving with a camera in your hand and so slowly a tesco truck passes you? must be a 35mph driver for tesco to pass you! get an accelerator!!!!!
762liggett 2 years ago
I'm a cyclist using a helmet camera. The camera's attached to my helmet and I can only go so fast.
Overtakes like that could be fatal to cyclists....however, if you think I'm doing 35mph then cheers :D
thomase1 2 years ago
Here we go. Another idiot posting on youtube. You must have an IQ of under 40 to post crazy shit like that, 762 ;-P
downfader2 2 years ago
Nothing in the outside lane.
So why pass so close?
markf1979 2 years ago
Those are pretty narrow lanes - lucky you took primary or that could have been very nasty indeed
TCTC68 2 years ago
Yep, had some space to brake and go into. As soon as I saw the cab I knew there would be trouble, hence the horn and brakes.
thomase1 2 years ago